RV10-List Digest Archive

Wed 12/23/09


Total Messages Posted: 22



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     1. 07:24 AM - using a hand rivet squeezer (keithmckinley)
     2. 07:39 AM - Re: using a hand rivet squeezer (tsts4)
     3. 07:43 AM - Re: using a hand rivet squeezer (Dave Saylor)
     4. 07:44 AM - Re: using a hand rivet squeezer (DLM)
     5. 07:50 AM - Re: using a hand rivet squeezer (keithmckinley)
     6. 07:59 AM - Re: using a hand rivet squeezer (Don McDonald)
     7. 08:13 AM - Re: using a hand rivet squeezer (keithmckinley)
     8. 08:17 AM - Re: plasma cutter (JHearnsberger)
     9. 09:06 AM - Re: Re: using a hand rivet squeezer (Albert Gardner)
    10. 10:50 AM - Aerosport Carbon Fiber Panel (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
    11. 11:56 AM - Re: Aerosport Carbon Fiber Panel (Bob-tcw)
    12. 11:56 AM - Re: Re: using a hand rivet squeezer (Pascal)
    13. 02:11 PM - Re: Aerosport Carbon Fiber Panel (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
    14. 02:30 PM - Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone (lbgjb10)
    15. 02:33 PM - Re: Aerosport Carbon Fiber Panel (Bob-tcw)
    16. 03:20 PM - Re: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone (Tim Olson)
    17. 03:40 PM - Re: Aerosport Carbon Fiber Panel (Bob-tcw)
    18. 07:03 PM - Re: Aerosport Carbon Fiber Panel (ivankris)
    19. 07:06 PM - Re: Short Video (cjay)
    20. 07:51 PM - Re: Short Video (Bob Turner)
    21. 08:07 PM - Re: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone (Tim Olson)
    22. 08:37 PM - Re: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone (Seano)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:24:22 AM PST US
    Subject: using a hand rivet squeezer
    From: "keithmckinley" <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>
    Can anyone tell me how you would compensate for different length rivets when using this tool? Thanks, Keith -------- Keith McKinley 700HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278681#278681


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    Time: 07:39:04 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: using a hand rivet squeezer
    From: "tsts4" <tsts4@verizon.net>
    Keith, Hand squeezers have an adjustable ram (the part that moves up and down with the handle) that the lower rivet set rides on. The ram screws in and out to adjust for variable rivet length--typically a full turn adjusts like 1/32 of inch or so (maybe 1/64 I don't remember). Finding the right amount of in vs. out is usually a trial and error affair, at least for me. I adjust so that my first squeeze is under set and then go from there. Just remember that an under set rivet can be squeezed some more, while an over-set rivet has no remedy except to drill it out and start over. -------- Todd Stovall 728TT (reserved) RV-10 Empacone, Wings Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278682#278682


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    Time: 07:43:54 AM PST US
    From: Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: using a hand rivet squeezer
    On most hand squeezers the die that moves up and down sits in an adjustable barrel. Sometimes you have to squeeze the handles a bit to take the pressure off the barrel, but once you find its sweet spot the barrel should screw in and out pretty easily. When things get really tricky, you can shim the dies with washers to make them bigger, and grind them off to make them shorter, but the adjustment should take care of 99% of it. Dave Saylor AirCrafters LLC 140 Aviation Way Watsonville, CA 95076 831-722-9141 Shop 831-750-0284 Cell On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 7:23 AM, keithmckinley <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>wrote: > keith.mckinley@townisp.com> > > Can anyone tell me how you would compensate for different length rivets > when using this tool? > > Thanks, > > Keith > > -------- > Keith McKinley > 700HS > KFIT > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278681#278681 > >


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    Time: 07:44:25 AM PST US
    From: "DLM" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: using a hand rivet squeezer
    Washer(s) (10) under the rivet sets and threaded lower jaw of squeeze. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of keithmckinley Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:23 AM Subject: RV10-List: using a hand rivet squeezer --> <keith.mckinley@townisp.com> Can anyone tell me how you would compensate for different length rivets when using this tool? Thanks, Keith -------- Keith McKinley 700HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278681#278681


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    Time: 07:50:47 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: using a hand rivet squeezer
    From: "keithmckinley" <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>
    Ah OK. Thanks for that. Now here's another question I'm actually skinning over a framed area that normally held radios in my Nanchang CJ-6. I want to be able to remove the aluminum sheet so I was going to rivet in nut plates. Do you think it would be easier and as strong to use rivenuts instead? The sheet will have a smoke oil tank and battery mounted on it. I rarely go negative G so there won't be much it the way of a pulling force on the screws Keith -------- Keith McKinley 700HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278686#278686


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    Time: 07:59:44 AM PST US
    From: Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: using a hand rivet squeezer
    You got a great answer for this already... but might have been easier with a simple phone call... and we could walk you through it.- What was explai ned was probably the single most important issue on building.- Suggest yo u buy a rivet ck gauge.... they sell tehm (really cheap) for both 3/32 and 1/8th-rivets. Don McDonald --- On Wed, 12/23/09, keithmckinley <keith.mckinley@townisp.com> wrote: From: keithmckinley <keith.mckinley@townisp.com> Subject: RV10-List: using a hand rivet squeezer m> Can anyone tell me how you would compensate for different length rivets whe n using this tool? Thanks, Keith -------- Keith McKinley 700HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278681#278681 le, List Admin. =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 08:13:11 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: using a hand rivet squeezer
    From: "keithmckinley" <keith.mckinley@townisp.com>
    partner14 wrote: > the single most important issue on building. I guess I missed that? What IS the single most important issue? Keith -------- Keith McKinley 700HS KFIT Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278692#278692


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    Time: 08:17:25 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: plasma cutter
    From: "JHearnsberger" <jakehearnsberger@gmail.com>
    Thank you all for your information. It never hurts to ask. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278694#278694


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    Time: 09:06:44 AM PST US
    From: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@roadrunner.com>
    Subject: Re: using a hand rivet squeezer
    To have access to an unlimited supply of money? Merry Christmas builders. Albert Gardner N991RV Yuma, AZ -----Original Message----- partner14 wrote: > the single most important issue on building. I guess I missed that? What IS the single most important issue? Keith McKinley 700HS KFIT


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    Time: 10:50:48 AM PST US
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    Subject: Aerosport Carbon Fiber Panel
    Does anyone that has Geoff's panel have any pictures of how you secured t he instruments and suck on the panel or any other panel install pics? Michael


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    Time: 11:56:07 AM PST US
    From: "Bob-tcw" <rnewman@tcwtech.com>
    Subject: Re: Aerosport Carbon Fiber Panel
    Michael, I have pictures posted of my install of the Accuracy Avionic fiberglass panel. I used a 1" wide strip of the Van's aluminum panel and bonded it to the glass with 8-32 studs burried in it. I attach the panel by running nuts down on the studs thru the van's stock support brackets, works well, and no visible screws from the front. Click on my link for "instrument panel" once you get to the web album http://www.picasaweb.google.com/rcnewman64 Bob Newman www.tcwtech.com ----- Original Message ----- From: RV Builder (Michael Sausen) To: RV-10 List (rv10-list@matronics.com) Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:39 PM Subject: RV10-List: Aerosport Carbon Fiber Panel Does anyone that has Geoff's panel have any pictures of how you secured the instruments and suck on the panel or any other panel install pics? Michael


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    Time: 11:56:08 AM PST US
    From: "Pascal" <rv10builder@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: using a hand rivet squeezer
    deciding to build a plane actually not over or under squeezing the rivets is what I understood. -------------------------------------------------- From: "keithmckinley" <keith.mckinley@townisp.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:12 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: using a hand rivet squeezer <keith.mckinley@townisp.com> > > > partner14 wrote: >> the single most important issue on building. > > > I guess I missed that? What IS the single most important issue? > > Keith > > -------- > Keith McKinley > 700HS > KFIT > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278692#278692 > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 02:11:45 PM PST US
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    Subject: Aerosport Carbon Fiber Panel
    Thanks Bob, that's similar to what Geoff sends along. What I'm looking for though is how things like the radio racks are attached. The Aerosport pan el doesn't leave a lot of room to get angle or anything on. Michael From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m atronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob-tcw Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 1:28 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Aerosport Carbon Fiber Panel Michael, I have pictures posted of my install of the Accuracy Avionic fib erglass panel. I used a 1" wide strip of the Van's aluminum panel and bo nded it to the glass with 8-32 studs burried in it. I attach the panel by running nuts down on the studs thru the van's stock support brackets, work s well, and no visible screws from the front. Click on my link for "instrument panel" once you get to the web album http://www.picasaweb.google.com/rcnewman64 Bob Newman www.tcwtech.com<http://www.tcwtech.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: RV Builder (Michael Sausen)<mailto:rvbuilder@sausen.net> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:39 PM Subject: RV10-List: Aerosport Carbon Fiber Panel Does anyone that has Geoff's panel have any pictures of how you secured t he instruments and suck on the panel or any other panel install pics? Michael href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.howtocrimp.com">www.howtocrimp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chr ef="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.co m/Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com rsbooks.com> m>


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    Time: 02:30:38 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
    From: "lbgjb10" <lbgjb@gnt.net>
    If you file your flight plan with Foreflight 3.0, do you get any feedback that the flight plan went thru?? -------- Larry and Gayle N104LG Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278735#278735


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    Time: 02:33:34 PM PST US
    From: "Bob-tcw" <rnewman@tcwtech.com>
    Subject: Re: Aerosport Carbon Fiber Panel
    I'll post some pictures shortly of the radio rack detail. I took some 1/8" angle aluminum and ripped it to about 5/16" wide and tapped holes for the screws that tie the gns-430 racks to the front. I also made mounting brackets that tie the radio trays to the sub panel. With this method nothing is cantilevered off the front panel. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: RV Builder (Michael Sausen) To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 5:10 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Aerosport Carbon Fiber Panel Thanks Bob, that's similar to what Geoff sends along. What I'm looking for though is how things like the radio racks are attached. The Aerosport panel doesn't leave a lot of room to get angle or anything on. Michael From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob-tcw Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 1:28 PM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: Aerosport Carbon Fiber Panel Michael, I have pictures posted of my install of the Accuracy Avionic fiberglass panel. I used a 1" wide strip of the Van's aluminum panel and bonded it to the glass with 8-32 studs burried in it. I attach the panel by running nuts down on the studs thru the van's stock support brackets, works well, and no visible screws from the front. Click on my link for "instrument panel" once you get to the web album http://www.picasaweb.google.com/rcnewman64 Bob Newman www.tcwtech.com ----- Original Message ----- From: RV Builder (Michael Sausen) To: RV-10 List (rv10-list@matronics.com) Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:39 PM Subject: RV10-List: Aerosport Carbon Fiber Panel Does anyone that has Geoff's panel have any pictures of how you secured the instruments and suck on the panel or any other panel install pics? Michael href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.comhref="http://w ww.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.comhref="http://www.homebuilthe lp.com">www.homebuilthelp.comhref="http://www.howtocrimp.com">www.howto crimp.comhref="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matron ics.com/chref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www .matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com">ht tp://forums.matronics.com bsp; (And Get Some AWESOME p; * AeroElectric www.aeroelectric.comwww.buildersbooks.comwww.homebuilthelp.comwww.howtocr imp.comhttp://www.matronics.com/consp; RV10-List hive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ,http://www.matronics.================ < Same great content also available via the Web Forums!href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com


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    Time: 03:20:09 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
    You get WAY more than that....confirmation AND the full briefing. I had an awesome couple of days with 3.0 so far....this should be a great trip write-up. Flying the STAR into KLEE as I type this...with the star on the iPhone! Tim On Dec 23, 2009, at 5:30 PM, "lbgjb10" <lbgjb@gnt.net> wrote: > > If you file your flight plan with Foreflight 3.0, do you get any > feedback that the flight plan went thru?? > > -------- > Larry and Gayle N104LG > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278735#278735 > >


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    Time: 03:40:00 PM PST US
    From: "Bob-tcw" <rnewman@tcwtech.com>
    Subject: Re: Aerosport Carbon Fiber Panel
    The folder "instrument panel" is now updated with the center radio stack details. I'll also added a folder today with the installation of my new andair fuel pump in the tunnel. I also added an access door to this area. http://www.picasaweb.google.com/rcnewman64 Bob Newman www.tcwtech.com ----- Original Message ----- From: RV Builder (Michael Sausen) To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 5:10 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Aerosport Carbon Fiber Panel Thanks Bob, that's similar to what Geoff sends along. What I'm looking for though is how things like the radio racks are attached. The Aerosport panel doesn't leave a lot of room to get angle or anything on. Michael From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob-tcw Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 1:28 PM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: Aerosport Carbon Fiber Panel Michael, I have pictures posted of my install of the Accuracy Avionic fiberglass panel. I used a 1" wide strip of the Van's aluminum panel and bonded it to the glass with 8-32 studs burried in it. I attach the panel by running nuts down on the studs thru the van's stock support brackets, works well, and no visible screws from the front. Click on my link for "instrument panel" once you get to the web album http://www.picasaweb.google.com/rcnewman64 Bob Newman www.tcwtech.com ----- Original Message ----- From: RV Builder (Michael Sausen) To: RV-10 List (rv10-list@matronics.com) Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:39 PM Subject: RV10-List: Aerosport Carbon Fiber Panel Does anyone that has Geoff's panel have any pictures of how you secured the instruments and suck on the panel or any other panel install pics? Michael href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.comhref="http://w ww.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.comhref="http://www.homebuilthe lp.com">www.homebuilthelp.comhref="http://www.howtocrimp.com">www.howto crimp.comhref="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matron ics.com/chref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www .matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com">ht tp://forums.matronics.com bsp; (And Get Some AWESOME p; * AeroElectric www.aeroelectric.comwww.buildersbooks.comwww.homebuilthelp.comwww.howtocr imp.comhttp://www.matronics.com/consp; RV10-List hive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ,http://www.matronics.================ < Same great content also available via the Web Forums!href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com


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    Time: 07:03:08 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Aerosport Carbon Fiber Panel
    From: "ivankris" <ivankris@rogers.com>
    Michael, I installed one of Geoff's panels a short time ago and posted some pictures on Phanfare here http://ivankristensen.phanfare.com/2292606 scroll down to Installing the CF instrument panl and wiring the instrument panel. Hope this helps -------- Ivan K. www.ivankristensen.com Builder # 40838 Wiring Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278753#278753


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    Time: 07:06:33 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Short Video
    From: "cjay" <cgfinney@yahoo.com>
    robin1(at)mrmoisture.com wrote: > I posed a 2.5 minute video on N110EE arriving at SBP this afternoon. I > was coming back from LOP testing and decided to test my HD video camera. > I am not sure why the prop shows up in some videos and not in others. > Kind of annoying but a good break from pounding rivets. I left the audio > on to hear engine noise etc. The swaying left & right is NOT how it > seems when I am on approach. As this is a test video and not > extraordinary I do not plan to keep this posted for very long. > Note Pacific ocean in the distance. The mountains on the right are > called the 7 Sisters and are 7 extinct volcanoes. I live on the tallest > one. > > Robin > Do Not Archive > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRitkCDaSJU that sure is some beautiful country. How does one get so lucky to live there? cjay Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278755#278755


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    Time: 07:51:29 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Short Video
    From: "Bob Turner" <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
    By paying lots, and lots, of taxes. And the state is still broke. -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278758#278758


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    Time: 08:07:14 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
    Now that I'm back on the ground and have my laptop handy again, here is a quick snapshot set that I just put together. It is basically the 2 emails that I received when I filed my flight plan for the return trip today. It shows a great example of the notification email you get, plus the briefing email that you get when you file a flight plan in Foreflight 3.0. http://www.myrv10.com/tips/IFR/Foreflight_Filing_Example This trip so far I have filed all my IFR plans in Foreflight Mobile 3.0, and I filed them all less than 20 minutes before departure, and my plan was on hand when I called for clearance. Today was a particularly thrilling day....I departed Key West and flew straight north over about 90 miles of water. I filed direct to Leesburg in central FL. As I was climbing and leveling off at 8000', they threw me a curve ball and asked me if I've got the Minne.4 arrival on hand because they needed me to fly the minne.4 STAR with the RSW entry. Since I had my tablet and iphone on board, I said "well sure, but do you need me to have it right away, or can I wait until I'm over land". (I didn't want to do anything at all to upset the apple cart while flying over that vast water stretch, so didn't want to dig out anything and turn on devices immediate as I was still leveling out and leaning to LOP fuel flows (10.5 gph today)). They said sure, just head direct RSW and let them know when I had it handy. So after we settled in, I decided to leave the tablet stowed and just try the iphone with Foreflight Mobile 3.0 instead. Sure enough, I had the STAR downloaded with all my Florida items, and I pulled it up and read through it. It was pretty simple, with a few various fixes, and then some vectoring at the end. So I called back and said I had it, and I loaded it into the Cheltons. It was easy on the Cheltons to load it up, and it displayed the entire arrival sequence, and was ready for me to add the IFR approach if necessary. It drew the whole arrival on my MFD. Then they gave me a 5000' crossing altitude for one of the fixes, so I punched in the VNAV on the Cheltons and set a 2.2 degree descent with automatic VNAV to 5000' exactly as I hit the fix. It was awesome....filing with an iphone, getting the STAR (something that I rarely need to do for the places I fly) on the iphone using foreflight, and then playing with the STAR and VNAV on the EFIS and having it all work perfectly. It was an awesome flight to wrap up before Christmas....hopefully the rest of the trip home will go as smoothly. Although I really like Voyager and plan to use the tablet for those scuzzy low approaches, because it's geo-referenced approach plates are awesome and it's nice stuff, today I wasn't in the clouds too much and it was a perfect day to leave it stowed and rely on the iphone. The above link is the textual emails I received, printed and cropped to .jpgs for viewing here on the web, so you can see how it's formatted. I'm pretty impressed, because if you just check your mail after filing the plan, you have that whole briefing in your inbox. On the way down to FL, I was able to review in more detail the whole thing even hours in advance, for lots more information than I'd care to hear from a briefer by phone. Coming up on 600 hours in the RV-10 pretty soon...it's been such a wonderful plane. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD lbgjb10 wrote: > > If you file your flight plan with Foreflight 3.0, do you get any feedback that the flight plan went thru?? > > -------- > Larry and Gayle N104LG > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278735#278735 >


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    Time: 08:37:13 PM PST US
    From: "Seano" <sean@braunandco.com>
    Subject: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
    Nice work ITIM. Can't wait until my T-Mobile contract is up in April 2010 so I can join in the fun. Scott rubs it in my face too! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 9:05 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone > > Now that I'm back on the ground and have my laptop handy again, here > is a quick snapshot set that I just put together. It is basically > the 2 emails that I received when I filed my flight plan for the > return trip today. It shows a great example of the notification > email you get, plus the briefing email that you get when you file > a flight plan in Foreflight 3.0. > > http://www.myrv10.com/tips/IFR/Foreflight_Filing_Example > > This trip so far I have filed all my IFR plans in Foreflight Mobile > 3.0, and I filed them all less than 20 minutes before departure, and > my plan was on hand when I called for clearance. > > Today was a particularly thrilling day....I departed Key West and > flew straight north over about 90 miles of water. I filed direct > to Leesburg in central FL. As I was climbing and leveling off at > 8000', they threw me a curve ball and asked me if I've got the > Minne.4 arrival on hand because they needed me to fly the minne.4 > STAR with the RSW entry. Since I had my tablet and iphone on board, > I said "well sure, but do you need me to have it right away, or > can I wait until I'm over land". (I didn't want to do anything > at all to upset the apple cart while flying over that vast water > stretch, so didn't want to dig out anything and turn on devices > immediate as I was still leveling out and leaning to LOP fuel > flows (10.5 gph today)). They said sure, just head direct RSW > and let them know when I had it handy. So after we settled in, > I decided to leave the tablet stowed and just try the iphone > with Foreflight Mobile 3.0 instead. Sure enough, I had the STAR > downloaded with all my Florida items, and I pulled it up and > read through it. It was pretty simple, with a few various fixes, > and then some vectoring at the end. So I called back and said > I had it, and I loaded it into the Cheltons. It was easy on > the Cheltons to load it up, and it displayed the entire arrival > sequence, and was ready for me to add the IFR approach if necessary. > It drew the whole arrival on my MFD. Then they gave me a 5000' > crossing altitude for one of the fixes, so I punched in the VNAV > on the Cheltons and set a 2.2 degree descent with automatic VNAV > to 5000' exactly as I hit the fix. It was awesome....filing > with an iphone, getting the STAR (something that I rarely need > to do for the places I fly) on the iphone using foreflight, > and then playing with the STAR and VNAV on the EFIS and having it > all work perfectly. It was an awesome flight to wrap up before > Christmas....hopefully the rest of the trip home will go as > smoothly. > > Although I really like Voyager and plan to use the tablet for > those scuzzy low approaches, because it's geo-referenced approach > plates are awesome and it's nice stuff, today I wasn't in the > clouds too much and it was a perfect day to leave it stowed and > rely on the iphone. > > The above link is the textual emails I received, printed and > cropped to .jpgs for viewing here on the web, so you can see > how it's formatted. I'm pretty impressed, because if you just > check your mail after filing the plan, you have that whole > briefing in your inbox. On the way down to FL, I was able to > review in more detail the whole thing even hours in advance, for > lots more information than I'd care to hear from a briefer by > phone. > > Coming up on 600 hours in the RV-10 pretty soon...it's been > such a wonderful plane. > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD > > > lbgjb10 wrote: >> >> If you file your flight plan with Foreflight 3.0, do you get any feedback >> that the flight plan went thru?? >> >> -------- >> Larry and Gayle N104LG >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278735#278735 >> > > >




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