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| Subject: | Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone |
You can also use the Apple Touch to do all this correct?
System Requirements:
You need one of the following to run ForeFlight Mobile 3:
Apple iPhone, Firmware Version 3.0 or later (any iPhone) - iPhone 3GS
recommended
Apple iPod touch, Firmware version 3.0 or later (any iPod touch) - iPod
touch 2G recommended
It may be cheaper than a $100 cell phone monthly bill and crappy cell
reception. Don't get me wrong I love my iPhone, it does everything
including dropping calls I could not hear anyway.
I have two iPhones = $200/month. I have 5 cell phones = $226.00/month.
Looking forward to Apples new 10" tablet. Errrr rumored tablet due to
announce in January for late spring, early summer release.
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Seano
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
Nice work ITIM.
Can't wait until my T-Mobile contract is up in April 2010 so I can join
in
the fun. Scott rubs it in my face too!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
>
> Now that I'm back on the ground and have my laptop handy again, here
> is a quick snapshot set that I just put together. It is basically
> the 2 emails that I received when I filed my flight plan for the
> return trip today. It shows a great example of the notification
> email you get, plus the briefing email that you get when you file
> a flight plan in Foreflight 3.0.
>
> http://www.myrv10.com/tips/IFR/Foreflight_Filing_Example
>
> This trip so far I have filed all my IFR plans in Foreflight Mobile
> 3.0, and I filed them all less than 20 minutes before departure, and
> my plan was on hand when I called for clearance.
>
> Today was a particularly thrilling day....I departed Key West and
> flew straight north over about 90 miles of water. I filed direct
> to Leesburg in central FL. As I was climbing and leveling off at
> 8000', they threw me a curve ball and asked me if I've got the
> Minne.4 arrival on hand because they needed me to fly the minne.4
> STAR with the RSW entry. Since I had my tablet and iphone on board,
> I said "well sure, but do you need me to have it right away, or
> can I wait until I'm over land". (I didn't want to do anything
> at all to upset the apple cart while flying over that vast water
> stretch, so didn't want to dig out anything and turn on devices
> immediate as I was still leveling out and leaning to LOP fuel
> flows (10.5 gph today)). They said sure, just head direct RSW
> and let them know when I had it handy. So after we settled in,
> I decided to leave the tablet stowed and just try the iphone
> with Foreflight Mobile 3.0 instead. Sure enough, I had the STAR
> downloaded with all my Florida items, and I pulled it up and
> read through it. It was pretty simple, with a few various fixes,
> and then some vectoring at the end. So I called back and said
> I had it, and I loaded it into the Cheltons. It was easy on
> the Cheltons to load it up, and it displayed the entire arrival
> sequence, and was ready for me to add the IFR approach if necessary.
> It drew the whole arrival on my MFD. Then they gave me a 5000'
> crossing altitude for one of the fixes, so I punched in the VNAV
> on the Cheltons and set a 2.2 degree descent with automatic VNAV
> to 5000' exactly as I hit the fix. It was awesome....filing
> with an iphone, getting the STAR (something that I rarely need
> to do for the places I fly) on the iphone using foreflight,
> and then playing with the STAR and VNAV on the EFIS and having it
> all work perfectly. It was an awesome flight to wrap up before
> Christmas....hopefully the rest of the trip home will go as
> smoothly.
>
> Although I really like Voyager and plan to use the tablet for
> those scuzzy low approaches, because it's geo-referenced approach
> plates are awesome and it's nice stuff, today I wasn't in the
> clouds too much and it was a perfect day to leave it stowed and
> rely on the iphone.
>
> The above link is the textual emails I received, printed and
> cropped to .jpgs for viewing here on the web, so you can see
> how it's formatted. I'm pretty impressed, because if you just
> check your mail after filing the plan, you have that whole
> briefing in your inbox. On the way down to FL, I was able to
> review in more detail the whole thing even hours in advance, for
> lots more information than I'd care to hear from a briefer by
> phone.
>
> Coming up on 600 hours in the RV-10 pretty soon...it's been
> such a wonderful plane.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>
>
> lbgjb10 wrote:
>>
>> If you file your flight plan with Foreflight 3.0, do you get any
feedback
>> that the flight plan went thru??
>>
>> --------
>> Larry and Gayle N104LG
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278735#278735
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone |
Wonder how long before the Google Droid phone is supported? Then one
would not be tied to the At&T network.
Jim C (N312F)
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posted by: "Robin Marks" <robin1@mrmoisture.com>
You can also use the Apple Touch to do all this correct?
System Requirements:
You need one of the following to run
ForeFlight Mobile 3:
Apple iPhone, Firmware Version 3.0 or later (any
iPhone) - iPhone 3GS
recommended
Apple iPod touch, Firmware
version 3.0 or later (any iPod touch) - iPod
touch 2G recommended
It may be cheaper than a $100 cell phone monthly bill and crappy
cell
reception. Don't get me wrong I love my iPhone, it does
everything
including dropping calls I could not hear anyway.
I
have two iPhones = $200/month. I have 5 cell phones = $226.00/month.
Looking forward to Apples new 10" tablet. Errrr rumored
tablet due to
announce in January for late spring, early summer
release.
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From:
owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Seano
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:34 PM
To:
rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile
3.0 for iPhone
"Seano" <sean@braunandco.com>
Nice work
ITIM.
Can't wait until my T-Mobile contract is up in April 2010
so I can join
in
the fun. Scott rubs it in my face too!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim
Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
To:
<rv10-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009
9:05 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for
iPhone
<Tim@myrv10.com>
>
> Now that I'm back on the ground
and have my laptop handy again, here
> is a quick snapshot set
that I just put together. It is basically
> the 2 emails that I
received when I filed my flight plan for the
> return trip today.
It shows a great example of the notification
> email you get, plus
the briefing email that you get when you file
> a flight plan in
Foreflight 3.0.
>
>
http://www.myrv10.com/tips/IFR/Foreflight_Filing_Example
>
> This trip so far I have filed all my IFR plans in Foreflight
Mobile
> 3.0, and I filed them all less than 20 minutes before
departure, and
> my plan was on hand when I called for
clearance.
>
> Today was a particularly thrilling day....I
departed Key West and
> flew straight north over about 90 miles of
water. I filed direct
> to Leesburg in central FL. As I was
climbing and leveling off at
> 8000', they threw me a curve ball
and asked me if I've got the
> Minne.4 arrival on hand because
they needed me to fly the minne.4
> STAR with the RSW entry.
Since I had my tablet and iphone on board,
> I said "well
sure, but do you need me to have it right away, or
> can I wait
until I'm over land". (I didn't want to do anything
> at all
to upset the apple cart while flying over that vast water
>
stretch, so didn't want to dig out anything and turn on devices
>
immediate as I was still leveling out and leaning to LOP fuel
>
flows (10.5 gph today)). They said sure, just head direct RSW
>
and let them know when I had it handy. So after we settled in,
>
I decided to leave the tablet stowed and just try the iphone
>
with Foreflight Mobile 3.0 instead. Sure enough, I had the STAR
>
downloaded with all my Florida items, and I pulled it up and
>
read through it. It was pretty simple, with a few various fixes,
> and then some vectoring at the end. So I called back and said
> I had it, and I loaded it into the Cheltons. It was easy on
> the Cheltons to load it up, and it displayed the entire arrival
> sequence, and was ready for me to add the IFR approach if
necessary.
> It drew the whole arrival on my MFD. Then they gave
me a 5000'
> crossing altitude for one of the fixes, so I punched
in the VNAV
> on the Cheltons and set a 2.2 degree descent with
automatic VNAV
> to 5000' exactly as I hit the fix. It was
awesome....filing
> with an iphone, getting the STAR (something
that I rarely need
> to do for the places I fly) on the iphone
using foreflight,
> and then playing with the STAR and VNAV on the
EFIS and having it
> all work perfectly. It was an awesome flight
to wrap up before
> Christmas....hopefully the rest of the trip
home will go as
> smoothly.
>
> Although I really
like Voyager and plan to use the tablet for
> those scuzzy low
approaches, because it's geo-referenced approach
> plates are
awesome and it's nice stuff, today I wasn't in the
> clouds too
much and it was a perfect day to leave it stowed and
> rely on the
iphone.
>
> The above link is the textual emails I
received, printed and
> cropped to .jpgs for viewing here on the
web, so you can see
> how it's formatted. I'm pretty impressed,
because if you just
> check your mail after filing the plan, you
have that whole
> briefing in your inbox. On the way down to FL,
I was able to
> review in more detail the whole thing even hours
in advance, for
> lots more information than I'd care to hear from
a briefer by
> phone.
>
> Coming up on 600 hours
in the RV-10 pretty soon...it's been
> such a wonderful plane.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>
>
> lbgjb10 wrote:
"lbgjb10" <lbgjb@gnt.net>
>>
>> If
you file your flight plan with Foreflight 3.0, do you get any
feedback
>> that the flight plan went thru??
>>
>> --------
>> Larry and Gayle N104LG
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic
online here:
>>
>>
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278735#278735
>>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone |
Yes, I also agree with your point...the overall cost of owning
an iphone can be pretty high, unless maybe you get rid of
another cellphone to offset the cost. For Andrea, she still
only has a verizon cellphone, and an ipod touch 3rd Generation.
If Verizon had the iPhone, I'd throw away all the phones
I have today and buy immediately 2 Verizon iPhones, because
in my area, AT&T stinks big time and Verizon rocks.
For things like Foreflight, an iPod touch will work great
except for data transmitting....your only choice is WiFi.
(more on that below).
Anyway, here's the way to go if you want to do it on an
iPod touch... Get the Touch 32Gb version if you plan to use
it for lots more than Foreflight...like lots of music.
My 32GB is down to 5GB remaining already. The 8GB would
suffice if you ONLY use it for Foreflight, and the 16GB
would do if you're not into any videos on the device and
tons of apps. The processors are faster in the 16 and
32GB models, so I wouldn't buy the 8GB either way.
You get the iPod touch, then jailbreak it. This is super easy.
The only restriction is that if you use a 3rd Gen ipod Touch,
you can't reboot it once it's jailbroken unless you tether
it to the PC and run the jailbreak software. (I used
Blackra1n to jailbreak...other methods may not have this limitation
but I think Blackra1n is the simplest method...any idiot
can jailbreak it in 2 minutes) With the jailbroken iPod
Touch, you can go to the cydia app store and buy ROQYBT. It's
a Bluetooth GPS stack for the ipod touch. To license
it will cost you just over $12 US. With this, you now
can get a cheap little GPS (I use a holux M-1000 for about
$40-45), and still have all the same GPS functionality that
a real iPhone 3GS would have. It's pretty awesome.
So it's cheap and easy and you can have in-flight map
tracking on VFR and IFR charts. (not approach plates).
Now, one more cool tip. For guys like you, who have an
iPhone already, you can actually share your data service
to that iPod Touch. If you jailbreak your iPhone, you can
go to "Rock" app store, and buy MyWi, a WiFi tethering
app that works with Edge mode or 3G. It's $10, and what
it does it set up a little WiFi AdHoc network that your
ipod Touch can connect to, and the touch can then use it's
wifi to use your 3G service. It's darn cool stuff.
I've used it with the kids iPod touches so that they
can get online while we travel, via my iphone. Very neat
stuff indeed.
So for the person who doesn't want a cellphone plan but wants
software like this, the ipod touch is a way to do it. At our
house, we ended up with 3 touches and 1 iphone for now, so that
everyone has their own device and it's awesome because we all
can check our email and play games...the kids play UNO with
people and stuff all the time. It's really been handy on this
trip because just that one device and provide music, movies,
and games, and you can't find much that weighs less to carry.
I have a 4-port USB charger and every night we're all charged
back up.
I'm writing this on my laptop, via my iphone 3G connection. :)
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
Robin Marks wrote:
>
> You can also use the Apple Touch to do all this correct?
>
> System Requirements:
> You need one of the following to run ForeFlight Mobile 3:
> Apple iPhone, Firmware Version 3.0 or later (any iPhone) - iPhone 3GS
> recommended
> Apple iPod touch, Firmware version 3.0 or later (any iPod touch) - iPod
> touch 2G recommended
>
> It may be cheaper than a $100 cell phone monthly bill and crappy cell
> reception. Don't get me wrong I love my iPhone, it does everything
> including dropping calls I could not hear anyway.
> I have two iPhones = $200/month. I have 5 cell phones = $226.00/month.
>
> Looking forward to Apples new 10" tablet. Errrr rumored tablet due to
> announce in January for late spring, early summer release.
>
> Robin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Seano
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:34 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
>
>
> Nice work ITIM.
>
> Can't wait until my T-Mobile contract is up in April 2010 so I can join
> in
> the fun. Scott rubs it in my face too!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 9:05 PM
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
>
>
>>
>> Now that I'm back on the ground and have my laptop handy again, here
>> is a quick snapshot set that I just put together. It is basically
>> the 2 emails that I received when I filed my flight plan for the
>> return trip today. It shows a great example of the notification
>> email you get, plus the briefing email that you get when you file
>> a flight plan in Foreflight 3.0.
>>
>> http://www.myrv10.com/tips/IFR/Foreflight_Filing_Example
>>
>> This trip so far I have filed all my IFR plans in Foreflight Mobile
>> 3.0, and I filed them all less than 20 minutes before departure, and
>> my plan was on hand when I called for clearance.
>>
>> Today was a particularly thrilling day....I departed Key West and
>> flew straight north over about 90 miles of water. I filed direct
>> to Leesburg in central FL. As I was climbing and leveling off at
>> 8000', they threw me a curve ball and asked me if I've got the
>> Minne.4 arrival on hand because they needed me to fly the minne.4
>> STAR with the RSW entry. Since I had my tablet and iphone on board,
>> I said "well sure, but do you need me to have it right away, or
>> can I wait until I'm over land". (I didn't want to do anything
>> at all to upset the apple cart while flying over that vast water
>> stretch, so didn't want to dig out anything and turn on devices
>> immediate as I was still leveling out and leaning to LOP fuel
>> flows (10.5 gph today)). They said sure, just head direct RSW
>> and let them know when I had it handy. So after we settled in,
>> I decided to leave the tablet stowed and just try the iphone
>> with Foreflight Mobile 3.0 instead. Sure enough, I had the STAR
>> downloaded with all my Florida items, and I pulled it up and
>> read through it. It was pretty simple, with a few various fixes,
>> and then some vectoring at the end. So I called back and said
>> I had it, and I loaded it into the Cheltons. It was easy on
>> the Cheltons to load it up, and it displayed the entire arrival
>> sequence, and was ready for me to add the IFR approach if necessary.
>> It drew the whole arrival on my MFD. Then they gave me a 5000'
>> crossing altitude for one of the fixes, so I punched in the VNAV
>> on the Cheltons and set a 2.2 degree descent with automatic VNAV
>> to 5000' exactly as I hit the fix. It was awesome....filing
>> with an iphone, getting the STAR (something that I rarely need
>> to do for the places I fly) on the iphone using foreflight,
>> and then playing with the STAR and VNAV on the EFIS and having it
>> all work perfectly. It was an awesome flight to wrap up before
>> Christmas....hopefully the rest of the trip home will go as
>> smoothly.
>>
>> Although I really like Voyager and plan to use the tablet for
>> those scuzzy low approaches, because it's geo-referenced approach
>> plates are awesome and it's nice stuff, today I wasn't in the
>> clouds too much and it was a perfect day to leave it stowed and
>> rely on the iphone.
>>
>> The above link is the textual emails I received, printed and
>> cropped to .jpgs for viewing here on the web, so you can see
>> how it's formatted. I'm pretty impressed, because if you just
>> check your mail after filing the plan, you have that whole
>> briefing in your inbox. On the way down to FL, I was able to
>> review in more detail the whole thing even hours in advance, for
>> lots more information than I'd care to hear from a briefer by
>> phone.
>>
>> Coming up on 600 hours in the RV-10 pretty soon...it's been
>> such a wonderful plane.
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>>
>>
>>
>> lbgjb10 wrote:
>>>
>>> If you file your flight plan with Foreflight 3.0, do you get any
> feedback
>>> that the flight plan went thru??
>>>
>>> --------
>>> Larry and Gayle N104LG
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278735#278735
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone |
They have started a small subset of the app for the Droid already.
Many of the weather functions are available. I think the app is
only like $10 or $20. I haven't paid much attention to their
Droid announcements, and it doesn't have the full feature set,
but over time I think you'll find a huge portion of those features
will indeed be available on Droid. Checkout their website and
you should find more info. Here is something I quick googled.
http://foreflight.wordpress.com/
I can't stand the AG&T network in my area. I haven't dropped
calls and had crappy service in years (since switching away
from their network)....but I suffer through it for the iphone.
I didn't drop my old cellphone because I can't rely on even
being able to make or receive calls at home on my iPhone. I love
the device though...never been happier. So, I'm patiently
waiting for something to happen where Verizon can offer the
iPhone. If that happens, I will cancel every phone contract
I have, and replace it will all new Verizon iphone contracts,
and I wouldn't even blink at a 2 year or 3 year committment
if they keep the service as good as I've had with them in the
past.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
Jim wrote:
> Wonder how long before the Google Droid phone is supported? Then one
> would not be tied to the At&T network.
>
> Jim C (N312F)
>
> Do Not Archive
>
> --------------------------------------
>
> You can also use the Apple Touch to do all this correct?
>
> System Requirements:
> You need one of the following to run ForeFlight Mobile 3:
> Apple iPhone, Firmware Version 3.0 or later (any iPhone) - iPhone 3GS
> recommended
> Apple iPod touch, Firmware version 3.0 or later (any iPod touch) - iPod
> touch 2G recommended
>
> It may be cheaper than a $100 cell phone monthly bill and crappy cell
> reception. Don't get me wrong I love my iPhone, it does everything
> including dropping calls I could not hear anyway.
> I have two iPhones = $200/month. I have 5 cell phones = $226.00/month.
>
> Looking forward to Apples new 10" tablet. Errrr rumored tablet due to
> announce in January for late spring, early summer release.
>
> Robin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Seano
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:34 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
>
>
> Nice work ITIM.
>
> Can't wait until my T-Mobile contract is up in April 2010 so I can join
> in
> the fun. Scott rubs it in my face too!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 9:05 PM
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
>
>
> >
> > Now that I'm back on the ground and have my laptop handy again, here
> > is a quick snapshot set that I just put together. It is basically
> > the 2 emails that I received when I filed my flight plan for the
> > return trip today. It shows a great example of the notification
> > email you get, plus the briefing email that you get when you file
> > a flight plan in Foreflight 3.0.
> >
> > http://www.myrv10.com/tips/IFR/Foreflight_Filing_Example
> >
> > This trip so far I have filed all my IFR plans in Foreflight Mobile
> > 3.0, and I filed them all less than 20 minutes before departure, and
> > my plan was on hand when I called for clearance.
> >
> > Today was a particularly thrilling day....I departed Key West and
> > flew straight north over about 90 miles of water. I filed direct
> > to Leesburg in central FL. As I was climbing and leveling off at
> > 8000', they threw me a curve ball and asked me if I've got the
> > Minne.4 arrival on hand because they needed me to fly the minne.4
> > STAR with the RSW entry. Since I had my tablet and iphone on board,
> > I said "well sure, but do you need me to have it right away, or
> > can I wait until I'm over land". (I didn't want to do anything
> > at all to upset the apple cart while flying over that vast water
> > stretch, so didn't want to dig out anything and turn on devices
> > immediate as I was still leveling out and leaning to LOP fuel
> > flows (10.5 gph today)). They said sure, just head direct RSW
> > and let them know when I had it handy. So after we settled in,
> > I decided to leave the tablet stowed and just try the iphone
> > with Foreflight Mobile 3.0 instead. Sure enough, I had the STAR
> > downloaded with all my Florida items, and I pulled it up and
> > read through it. It was pretty simple, with a few various fixes,
> > and then some vectoring at the end. So I called back and said
> > I had it, and I loaded it into the Cheltons. It was easy on
> > the Cheltons to load it up, and it displayed the entire arrival
> > sequence, and was ready for me to add the IFR approach if necessary.
> > It drew the whole arrival on my MFD. Then they gave me a 5000'
> > crossing altitude for one of the fixes, so I punched in the VNAV
> > on the Cheltons and set a 2.2 degree descent with automatic VNAV
> > to 5000' exactly as I hit the fix. It was awesome....filing
> > with an iphone, getting the STAR (something that I rarely need
> > to do for the places I fly) on the iphone using foreflight,
> > and then playing with the STAR and VNAV on the EFIS and having it
> > all work perfectly. It was an awesome flight to wrap up before
> > Christmas....hopefully the rest of the trip home will go as
> > smoothly.
> >
> > Although I really like Voyager and plan to use the tablet for
> > those scuzzy low approaches, because it's geo-referenced approach
> > plates are awesome and it's nice stuff, today I wasn't in the
> > clouds too much and it was a perfect day to leave it stowed and
> > rely on the iphone.
> >
> > The above link is the textual emails I received, printed and
> > cropped to .jpgs for viewing here on the web, so you can see
> > how it's formatted. I'm pretty impressed, because if you just
> > check your mail after filing the plan, you have that whole
> > briefing in your inbox. On the way down to FL, I was able to
> > review in more detail the whole thing even hours in advance, for
> > lots more information than I'd care to hear from a briefer by
> > phone.
> >
> > Coming up on 600 hours in the RV-10 pretty soon...it's been
> > such a wonderful plane.
> >
> > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> >
> >
> >
> > lbgjb10 wrote:
> >>
> >> If you file your flight plan with Foreflight 3.0, do you get any
> feedback
> >> that the flight plan went thru??
> >>
> >> --------
> >> Larry and Gayle N104LG
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Read this topic online here:
> >>
> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278735#278735
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone |
Hi Tim,
=C2-I was a biochem major. What is "jailbreak"??=C2- My wife and I are
thnking of getting rid of our XM radio subscription and buying an IPOD touc
h for our music, and other things. We have a 696 we will use only for WX an
d traffic. We installed a new PMA 7000 audio panel and want to use the IPOD
with it.
Thanks in advance.
Brian and Ruth Preston
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 5:20:12 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
Yes, I also agree with your point...the overall cost of owning
an iphone can be pretty high, unless maybe you get rid of
another cellphone to offset the cost. =C2-For Andrea, she still
only has a verizon cellphone, and an ipod touch 3rd Generation.
If Verizon had the iPhone, I'd throw away all the phones
I have today and buy immediately 2 Verizon iPhones, because
in my area, AT&T stinks big time and Verizon rocks.
For things like Foreflight, an iPod touch will work great
except for data transmitting....your only choice is WiFi.
(more on that below).
Anyway, here's the way to go if you want to do it on an
iPod touch... =C2-Get the Touch 32Gb version if you plan to use
it for lots more than Foreflight...like lots of music.
My 32GB is down to 5GB remaining already. =C2-The 8GB would
suffice if you ONLY use it for Foreflight, and the 16GB
would do if you're not into any videos on the device and
tons of apps. =C2-The processors are faster in the 16 and
32GB models, so I wouldn't buy the 8GB either way.
You get the iPod touch, then jailbreak it. =C2-This is super easy.
The only restriction is that if you use a 3rd Gen ipod Touch,
you can't reboot it once it's jailbroken unless you tether
it to the PC and run the jailbreak software. =C2-(I used
Blackra1n to jailbreak...other methods may not have this limitation
but I think Blackra1n is the simplest method...any idiot
can jailbreak it in 2 minutes) =C2-With the jailbroken iPod
Touch, you can go to the cydia app store and buy ROQYBT. It's
a Bluetooth GPS stack for the ipod touch. =C2-To license
it will cost you just over $12 US. =C2-With this, you now
can get a cheap little GPS (I use a holux M-1000 for about
$40-45), and still have all the same GPS functionality that
a real iPhone 3GS would have. =C2-It's pretty awesome.
So it's cheap and easy and you can have in-flight map
tracking on VFR and IFR charts. (not approach plates).
Now, one more cool tip. =C2-For guys like you, who have an
iPhone already, you can actually share your data service
to that iPod Touch. =C2-If you jailbreak your iPhone, you can
go to "Rock" app store, and buy MyWi, a WiFi tethering
app that works with Edge mode or 3G. =C2-It's $10, and what
it does it set up a little WiFi AdHoc network that your
ipod Touch can connect to, and the touch can then use it's
wifi to use your 3G service. =C2-It's darn cool stuff.
I've used it with the kids iPod touches so that they
can get online while we travel, via my iphone. =C2-Very neat
stuff indeed.
So for the person who doesn't want a cellphone plan but wants
software like this, the ipod touch is a way to do it. =C2-At our
house, we ended up with 3 touches and 1 iphone for now, so that
everyone has their own device and it's awesome because we all
can check our email and play games...the kids play UNO with
people and stuff all the time. =C2-It's really been handy on this
trip because just that one device and provide music, movies,
and games, and you can't find much that weighs less to carry.
I have a 4-port USB charger and every night we're all charged
back up.
I'm writing this on my laptop, via my iphone 3G connection. :)
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
Robin Marks wrote:
>
> You can also use the Apple Touch to do all this correct?
>
> System Requirements:
> You need one of the following to run ForeFlight Mobile 3:
> Apple iPhone, Firmware Version 3.0 or later (any iPhone) - iPhone 3GS
> recommended
> Apple iPod touch, Firmware version 3.0 or later (any iPod touch) - iPod
> touch 2G recommended
>
> It may be cheaper than a $100 cell phone monthly bill and crappy cell
> reception. Don't get me wrong I love my iPhone, it does everything
> including dropping calls I could not hear anyway.
> I have two iPhones = $200/month. I have 5 cell phones = $226.00/month
.
>
> Looking forward to Apples new 10" tablet. Errrr rumored tablet due to
> announce in January for late spring, early summer release.
> =C2-
> Robin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Seano
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:34 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
>
>
> Nice work ITIM.
>
> Can't wait until my T-Mobile contract is up in April 2010 so I can join
> in
> the fun. =C2-Scott rubs it in my face too!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 9:05 PM
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
>
>
>>
>> Now that I'm back on the ground and have my laptop handy again, here
>> is a quick snapshot set that I just put together. =C2-It is basically
>> the 2 emails that I received when I filed my flight plan for the
>> return trip today. =C2-It shows a great example of the notification
>> email you get, plus the briefing email that you get when you file
>> a flight plan in Foreflight 3.0.
>>
>> http://www.myrv10.com/tips/IFR/Foreflight_Filing_Example
>>
>> This trip so far I have filed all my IFR plans in Foreflight Mobile
>> 3.0, and I filed them all less than 20 minutes before departure, and
>> my plan was on hand when I called for clearance.
>>
>> Today was a particularly thrilling day....I departed Key West and
>> flew straight north over about 90 miles of water. =C2-I filed direct
>> to Leesburg in central FL. =C2-As I was climbing and leveling off at
>> 8000', they threw me a curve ball and asked me if I've got the
>> Minne.4 arrival on hand because they needed me to fly the minne.4
>> STAR with the RSW entry. =C2-Since I had my tablet and iphone on board
,
>> I said "well sure, but do you need me to have it right away, or
>> can I wait until I'm over land". =C2-(I didn't want to do anything
>> at all to upset the apple cart while flying over that vast water
>> stretch, so didn't want to dig out anything and turn on devices
>> immediate as I was still leveling out and leaning to LOP fuel
>> flows (10.5 gph today)). =C2-They said sure, just head direct RSW
>> and let them know when I had it handy. =C2-So after we settled in,
>> I decided to leave the tablet stowed and just try the iphone
>> with Foreflight Mobile 3.0 instead. =C2-Sure enough, I had the STAR
>> downloaded with all my Florida items, and I pulled it up and
>> read through it. =C2-It was pretty simple, with a few various fixes,
>> and then some vectoring at the end. =C2-So I called back and said
>> I had it, and I loaded it into the Cheltons. =C2-It was easy on
>> the Cheltons to load it up, and it displayed the entire arrival
>> sequence, and was ready for me to add the IFR approach if necessary.
>> It drew the whole arrival on my MFD. =C2-Then they gave me a 5000'
>> crossing altitude for one of the fixes, so I punched in the VNAV
>> on the Cheltons and set a 2.2 degree descent with automatic VNAV
>> to 5000' exactly as I hit the fix. =C2-It was awesome....filing
>> with an iphone, getting the STAR (something that I rarely need
>> to do for the places I fly) on the iphone using foreflight,
>> and then playing with the STAR and VNAV on the EFIS and having it
>> all work perfectly. =C2-It was an awesome flight to wrap up before
>> Christmas....hopefully the rest of the trip home will go as
>> smoothly.
>>
>> Although I really like Voyager and plan to use the tablet for
>> those scuzzy low approaches, because it's geo-referenced approach
>> plates are awesome and it's nice stuff, today I wasn't in the
>> clouds too much and it was a perfect day to leave it stowed and
>> rely on the iphone.
>>
>> The above link is the textual emails I received, printed and
>> cropped to .jpgs for viewing here on the web, so you can see
>> how it's formatted. =C2-I'm pretty impressed, because if you just
>> check your mail after filing the plan, you have that whole
>> briefing in your inbox. =C2-On the way down to FL, I was able to
>> review in more detail the whole thing even hours in advance, for
>> lots more information than I'd care to hear from a briefer by
>> phone.
>>
>> Coming up on 600 hours in the RV-10 pretty soon...it's been
>> such a wonderful plane.
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>>
>>
>>
>> lbgjb10 wrote:
>>>
>>> If you file your flight plan with Foreflight 3.0, do you get any
> feedback
>>> that the flight plan went thru??
>>>
>>> --------
>>> Larry and Gayle N104LG
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278735#278735
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2--Matt Dralle, List Admin.
===========
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;). It's a term for a hack you can do that gives you access to more
features and apps than you normally can get from apple, some of it
very useful functionality. It's definitely not for everyone, but for
those with a few pc skills or who don't mind doing a little online
reading, you can do some cool things with a jailbroken phone. If
only things like myWi, sbsettings, and roqyby Bluetooth stack were on
the apple app store there would be no need for jailbreaking, but apple
is a bit restrictive in their offerings so it forces people to do
things to bypass them when they want that functionality. Just google
the term and you'll find tons of info, but it's probably best for tech
savvy folk....surprisingly there are tons of geeks who build planes
though.
Tim
On Dec 24, 2009, at 8:52 AM, cloudvalley@comcast.net wrote:
> Hi Tim,
>
> I was a biochem major. What is "jailbreak"?? My wife and I are
> thnking of getting rid of our XM radio subscription and buying an
> IPOD touch for our music, and other things. We have a 696 we will
> use only for WX and traffic. We installed a new PMA 7000 audio panel
> and want to use the IPOD with it.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
> Brian and Ruth Preston
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 5:20:12 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada
> Pacific
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
>
>
> Yes, I also agree with your point...the overall cost of owning
> an iphone can be pretty high, unless maybe you get rid of
> another cellphone to offset the cost. For Andrea, she still
> only has a verizon cellphone, and an ipod touch 3rd Generation.
> If Verizon had the iPhone, I'd throw away all the phones
> I have today and buy immediately 2 Verizon iPhones, because
> in my area, AT&T stinks big time and Verizon rocks.
> For things like Foreflight, an iPod touch will work great
> except for data transmitting....your only choice is WiFi.
> (more on that below).
>
>
> Anyway, here's the way to go if you want to do it on an
> iPod touch... Get the Touch 32Gb version if you plan to use
> it for lots more than Foreflight...like lots of music.
> My 32GB is down to 5GB remaining already. The 8GB would
> suffice if you ONLY use it for Foreflight, and the 16GB
> would do if you're not into any videos on the device and
> tons of apps. The processors are faster in the 16 and
> 32GB models, so I wouldn't buy the 8GB either way.
>
> You get the iPod touch, then jailbreak it. This is super easy.
> The only restriction is that if you use a 3rd Gen ipod Touch,
> you can't reboot it once it's jailbroken unless you tether
> it to the PC and run the jailbreak software. (I used
> Blackra1n to jailbreak...other methods may not have this limitation
> but I think Blackra1n is the simplest method...any idiot
> can jailbreak it in 2 minutes) With the jailbroken iPod
> Touch, you can go to the cydia app store and buy ROQYBT. It's
> a Bluetooth GPS stack for the ipod touch. To license
> it will cost you just over $12 US. With this, you now
> can get a cheap little GPS (I use a holux M-1000 for about
> $40-45), and still have all the same GPS functionality that
> a real iPhone 3GS would have. It's pretty awesome.
> So it's cheap and easy and you can have in-flight map
> tracking on VFR and IFR charts. (not approach plates).
>
> Now, one more cool tip. For guys like you, who have an
> iPhone already, you can actually share your data service
> to that iPod Touch. If you jailbreak your iPhone, you can
> go to "Rock" app store, and buy MyWi, a WiFi tethering
> app that works with Edge mode or 3G. It's $10, and what
> it does it set up a little WiFi AdHoc network that your
> ipod Touch can connect to, and the touch can then use it's
> wifi to use your 3G service. It's darn cool stuff.
> I've used it with the kids iPod touches so that they
> can get online while we travel, via my iphone. Very neat
> stuff indeed.
>
> So for the person who doesn't want a cellphone plan but wants
> software like this, the ipod touch is a way to do it. At our
> house, we ended up with 3 touches and 1 iphone for now, so that
> everyone has their own device and it's awesome because we all
> can check our email and play games...the kids play UNO with
> people and stuff all the time. It's really been handy on this
> trip because just that one device and provide music, movies,
> and games, and you can't find much that weighs less to carry.
> I have a 4-port USB charger and every night we're all charged
> back up.
>
> I'm writing this on my laptop, via my iphone 3G connection. :)
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>
>
> Robin Marks wrote:
> >
> >
> > You can also use the Apple Touch to do all this correct?
> >
> > System Requirements:
> > You need one of the following to run ForeFlight Mobile 3:
> > Apple iPhone, Firmware Version 3.0 or later (any iPhone) - iPhone
> 3GS
> > recommended
> > Apple iPod touch, Firmware version 3.0 or later (any iPod touch) -
> iPod
> > touch 2G recommended
> >
> > It may be cheaper than a $100 cell phone monthly bill and crappy
> cell
> > reception. Don't get me wrong I love my iPhone, it does everything
> > including dropping calls I could not hear anyway.
> > I have two iPhones = $200/month. I have 5 cell phones = $226.00/
> month.
> >
> > Looking forward to Apples new 10" tablet. Errrr rumored tablet due
> to
> > announce in January for late spring, early summer release.
> >
> > Robin
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Seano
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:34 PM
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
> >
> >
> > Nice work ITIM.
> >
> > Can't wait until my T-Mobile contract is up in April 2010 so I can
> join
> > in
> > the fun. Scott rubs it in my face too!
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> > To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 9:05 PM
> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Now that I'm back on the ground and have my laptop handy again,
> here
> >> is a quick snapshot set that I just put together. It is basically
> >> the 2 emails that I received when I filed my flight plan for the
> >> return trip today. It shows a great example of the notification
> >> email you get, plus the briefing email that you get when you file
> >> a flight plan in Foreflight 3.0.
> >>
> >> http://www.myrv10.com/tips/IFR/Foreflight_Filing_Example
> >>
> >> This trip so far I have filed all my IFR plans in Foreflight Mobile
> >> 3.0, and I filed them all less than 20 minutes before departure,
> and
> >> my plan was on hand when I called for clearance.
> >>
> >> Today was a particularly thrilling day....I departed Key West and
> >> flew straight north over about 90 miles of water. I filed direct
> >> to Leesburg in central FL. As I was climbing and leveling off at
> >> 8000', they threw me a curve ball and asked me if I've got the
> >> Minne.4 arrival on hand because they needed me to fly the minne.4
> >> STAR with the RSW entry. Since I had my tablet and iphone on
> board,
> >> I said "well sure, but do you need me to have it right away, or
> >> can I wait until I'm over land". (I didn't want to do anything
> >> at all to upset the apple cart while flying over that vast water
> >> stretch, so didn't want to dig out anything and turn on devices
> >> immediate as I was still leveling out and leaning to LOP fuel
> >> flows (10.5 gph today)). They said sure, just head direct RSW
> >> and let them know when I had it handy. So after we settled in,
> >> I decided to leave the tablet stowed and just try the iphone
> >> with Foreflight Mobile 3.0 instead. Sure enough, I had the STAR
> >> downloaded with all my Florida items, and I pulled it up and
> >> read through it. It was pretty simple, with a few various fixes,
> >> and then some vectoring at the end. So I called back and said
> >> I had it, and I loaded it into the Cheltons. It was easy on
> >> the Cheltons to load it up, and it displayed the entire arrival
> >> sequence, and was ready for me to add the IFR approach if
> necessary.
> >> It drew the whole arrival on my MFD. Then they gave me a 5000'
> >> crossing altitude for one of the fixes, so I punched in the VNAV
> >> on the Cheltons and set a 2.2 degree descent with automatic VNAV
> >> to 5000' exactly as I hit the fix. It was awesome....filing
> >> with an iphone, getting the STAR (something that I rarely need
> >> to do for the places I fly) on the iphone using foreflight,
> >> and then playing with the STAR and VNAV on the EFIS and having it
> >> all work perfectly. It was an awesome flight to wrap up before
> >> Christmas....hopefully the rest of the trip home will go as
> >> smoothly.
> >>
> >> Although I really like Voyager and plan to use the tablet for
> >> those scuzzy low approaches, because it's geo-referenced approach
> >> plates are awesome and it's nice stuff, today I wasn't in the
> >> clouds too much and it was a perfect day to leave it stowed and
> >> rely on the iphone.
> >>
> >> The above link is the textual emails I received, printed and
> >> cropped to .jpgs for viewing here on the web, so you can see
> >> how it's formatted. I'm pretty impressed, because if you just
> >> check your mail after filing the plan, you have that whole
> >> briefing in your inbox. On the way down to FL, I was able to
> >> review in more detail the whole thing even hours in advance, for
> >> lots more information than I'd care to hear from a briefer by
> >> phone.
> >>
> >> Coming up on 600 hours in the RV-10 pretty soon...it's been
> >> such a wonderful plane.
> >>
> >> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> lbgjb10 wrote:
> >>>
> >>> If you file your flight plan with Foreflight 3.0, do you get any
> > feedback
> >>> that the flight plan went thru??
> >>>
> >>> --------
> >>> Larry and Gayle N104LG
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Read this topic online here:
> >>>
> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278735#278735
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone |
This is interesting. I too have been waiting for an iPhone from Verizon.
AT&T service absolutely sucks in the NY/NJ area--and AT&T is based there!
You can't beat Verizon for voice quality/reliability. The only problem I
have with Verizon is they often cripple their devices and then offer to
enable those features for a monthly fee. Case in point is the GPS on my
Blackberry Storm. The unit has a built in GPS but Verizon disables it but
makes it available only with thier crappy Navigation software for $10 per
month--no thanks. I did find with the non vendor specific version of the
Blackberry OS, the GPS is availabe to applications such as Google maps and
others.
You bring up an interesting idea however. I have often said I would get an
iPhone if I could get it only with a data plan--not that the AT&T 3G data
service is any better than their voice service, but and *iPod touch
with a Sprint
Mi-Fi<http://now.sprint.com/nownetwork/mifiProductPage.html?id9=SEM_Google_A_MiFi_Video>
* may just fit the bill. From my research, you may not even need to
jailbreak it--have to verify this. With a single device the size of about 5
stacked credit cards you would have both *GPS and Internet* connectivity "on
the go" for the iPod touch--and any other device with Wi-Fi connectivity.
The Mi-Fi device is available from both Sprint and Verizon but again Verizon
has disabled the GPS in thier unit. For now I will start by upgrading my
Sprint USB 598U to the Mi-Fi.
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>
> Yes, I also agree with your point...the overall cost of owning
> an iphone can be pretty high, unless maybe you get rid of
> another cellphone to offset the cost. For Andrea, she still
> only has a verizon cellphone, and an ipod touch 3rd Generation.
> If Verizon had the iPhone, I'd throw away all the phones
> I have today and buy immediately 2 Verizon iPhones, because
> in my area, AT&T stinks big time and Verizon rocks.
> For things like Foreflight, an iPod touch will work great
> except for data transmitting....your only choice is WiFi.
> (more on that below).
>
>
> Anyway, here's the way to go if you want to do it on an
> iPod touch... Get the Touch 32Gb version if you plan to use
> it for lots more than Foreflight...like lots of music.
> My 32GB is down to 5GB remaining already. The 8GB would
> suffice if you ONLY use it for Foreflight, and the 16GB
> would do if you're not into any videos on the device and
> tons of apps. The processors are faster in the 16 and
> 32GB models, so I wouldn't buy the 8GB either way.
>
> You get the iPod touch, then jailbreak it. This is super easy.
> The only restriction is that if you use a 3rd Gen ipod Touch,
> you can't reboot it once it's jailbroken unless you tether
> it to the PC and run the jailbreak software. (I used
> Blackra1n to jailbreak...other methods may not have this limitation
> but I think Blackra1n is the simplest method...any idiot
> can jailbreak it in 2 minutes) With the jailbroken iPod
> Touch, you can go to the cydia app store and buy ROQYBT. It's
> a Bluetooth GPS stack for the ipod touch. To license
> it will cost you just over $12 US. With this, you now
> can get a cheap little GPS (I use a holux M-1000 for about
> $40-45), and still have all the same GPS functionality that
> a real iPhone 3GS would have. It's pretty awesome.
> So it's cheap and easy and you can have in-flight map
> tracking on VFR and IFR charts. (not approach plates).
>
> Now, one more cool tip. For guys like you, who have an
> iPhone already, you can actually share your data service
> to that iPod Touch. If you jailbreak your iPhone, you can
> go to "Rock" app store, and buy MyWi, a WiFi tethering
> app that works with Edge mode or 3G. It's $10, and what
> it does it set up a little WiFi AdHoc network that your
> ipod Touch can connect to, and the touch can then use it's
> wifi to use your 3G service. It's darn cool stuff.
> I've used it with the kids iPod touches so that they
> can get online while we travel, via my iphone. Very neat
> stuff indeed.
>
> So for the person who doesn't want a cellphone plan but wants
> software like this, the ipod touch is a way to do it. At our
> house, we ended up with 3 touches and 1 iphone for now, so that
> everyone has their own device and it's awesome because we all
> can check our email and play games...the kids play UNO with
> people and stuff all the time. It's really been handy on this
> trip because just that one device and provide music, movies,
> and games, and you can't find much that weighs less to carry.
> I have a 4-port USB charger and every night we're all charged
> back up.
>
> I'm writing this on my laptop, via my iphone 3G connection. :)
>
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>
>
> --
> William
> N40237 - http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
>
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| Subject: | Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone |
The blackberry storm is GPS is available for use on Verizon. I have that
device and the GPS works great. I have many GPS based applications that I
do not have a fee for. Granted there are no apps for flying except the
Wing-X and AOPA version of Wing-X that is free . As soon as Verizon release
iPhone I will have it unless android sees some tracking with applications in
the aviation industry
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William Curtis
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
This is interesting. I too have been waiting for an iPhone from Verizon.
AT&T service absolutely sucks in the NY/NJ area--and AT&T is based there!
You can't beat Verizon for voice quality/reliability.. The only problem I
have with Verizon is they often cripple their devices and then offer to
enable those features for a monthly fee. Case in point is the GPS on my
Blackberry Storm. The unit has a built in GPS but Verizon disables it but
makes it available only with thier crappy Navigation software for $10 per
month--no thanks. I did find with the non vendor specific version of the
Blackberry OS, the GPS is availabe to applications such as Google maps and
others.
You bring up an interesting idea however. I have often said I would get an
iPhone if I could get it only with a data plan--not that the AT&T 3G data
service is any better than their voice service, but and iPod touch with a
Sprint
<http://now.sprint.com/nownetwork/mifiProductPage.html?id9=SEM_Google_A_MiFi
_Video> Mi-Fi may just fit the bill. From my research, you may not even
need to jailbreak it--have to verify this. With a single device the size of
about 5 stacked credit cards you would have both GPS and Internet
connectivity "on the go" for the iPod touch--and any other device with Wi-Fi
connectivity. The Mi-Fi device is available from both Sprint and Verizon
but again Verizon has disabled the GPS in thier unit. For now I will start
by upgrading my Sprint USB 598U to the Mi-Fi.
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
Yes, I also agree with your point...the overall cost of owning
an iphone can be pretty high, unless maybe you get rid of
another cellphone to offset the cost. For Andrea, she still
only has a verizon cellphone, and an ipod touch 3rd Generation.
If Verizon had the iPhone, I'd throw away all the phones
I have today and buy immediately 2 Verizon iPhones, because
in my area, AT&T stinks big time and Verizon rocks.
For things like Foreflight, an iPod touch will work great
except for data transmitting.....your only choice is WiFi.
(more on that below).
Anyway, here's the way to go if you want to do it on an
iPod touch... Get the Touch 32Gb version if you plan to use
it for lots more than Foreflight...like lots of music.
My 32GB is down to 5GB remaining already. The 8GB would
suffice if you ONLY use it for Foreflight, and the 16GB
would do if you're not into any videos on the device and
tons of apps. The processors are faster in the 16 and
32GB models, so I wouldn't buy the 8GB either way.
You get the iPod touch, then jailbreak it. This is super easy.
The only restriction is that if you use a 3rd Gen ipod Touch,
you can't reboot it once it's jailbroken unless you tether
it to the PC and run the jailbreak software. (I used
Blackra1n to jailbreak...other methods may not have this limitation
but I think Blackra1n is the simplest method...any idiot
can jailbreak it in 2 minutes) With the jailbroken iPod
Touch, you can go to the cydia app store and buy ROQYBT. It's
a Bluetooth GPS stack for the ipod touch. To license
it will cost you just over $12 US. With this, you now
can get a cheap little GPS (I use a holux M-1000 for about
$40-45), and still have all the same GPS functionality that
a real iPhone 3GS would have. It's pretty awesome.
So it's cheap and easy and you can have in-flight map
tracking on VFR and IFR charts. (not approach plates).
Now, one more cool tip. For guys like you, who have an
iPhone already, you can actually share your data service
to that iPod Touch. If you jailbreak your iPhone, you can
go to "Rock" app store, and buy MyWi, a WiFi tethering
app that works with Edge mode or 3G. It's $10, and what
it does it set up a little WiFi AdHoc network that your
ipod Touch can connect to, and the touch can then use it's
wifi to use your 3G service. It's darn cool stuff.
I've used it with the kids iPod touches so that they
can get online while we travel, via my iphone. Very neat
stuff indeed.
So for the person who doesn't want a cellphone plan but wants
software like this, the ipod touch is a way to do it. At our
house, we ended up with 3 touches and 1 iphone for now, so that
everyone has their own device and it's awesome because we all
can check our email and play games...the kids play UNO with
people and stuff all the time. It's really been handy on this
trip because just that one device and provide music, movies,
and games, and you can't find much that weighs less to carry.
I have a 4-port USB charger and every night we're all charged
back up.
I'm writing this on my laptop, via my iphone 3G connection. :)
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
--
William
N40237 - http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
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Bob,
I really is wonderful here. Beautiful weather year round. I golfed 9
holes yesterday and was down to a Polo shirt.
San Luis Obispo sits in a terrific location with small mountains
protecting it from the coastal cold and larger inland mountains
protecting it from the heat of the central coast. There is really no bad
time of year here unless you have allergies. We have been called the
allergy capital of the US. If one were to fly from Santa Barbara or
Vandenberg AFB just south of SLO past Pismo & Shell beach, over Morro
Rock and Morro Bay, a beam Hearst Castle and up towards Big Sur &
Monterey that would be one special flight. Maybe get some aerial whale
watching in at the same time. I guess there was a reason WR Hearst built
here.
SLO has the magic of rolling hills that are bright green about 4 months
a year while the central coast vineyards are brown and as the mountains
turn brown the vineyards turn green.
How one gets to live here is a matter of happenstance like most things.
The down side is that San Luis Obispo, CA was recently rated the most
expensive place to live in the US when considering income opportunity.
Not a lot of high paying industry here. Most of the high income
individuals are retired or in technology (like me) where working
remotely allows us to live where we wish. Until recently housing was
completely unreasonable in SLO but with the downturn some starter homes
that were $7's may now be in the high $3's. For the last decade we have
had diminishing school populations as young families could not afford to
move into the area and school their kids. There is a trade off however
where our public schools are excellent so private schools are not
required like they would be in our LA neighborhood.
To further dampen people's desire to move here I can tell you that I
have a large hangar 45x50 that cost more than many people pay for their
home. I know a beautiful spot in AR where you can build a custom home on
a private air field (see my first flight) which is situated near a
beautiful lake for less than the cost of my hangar. And 20 years from
now the lease will expire on the hangar and the county will renegotiate
to a rate I will not be able to afford. Fortunately I plan to lose my
medical long before that happens.
Happy Holidays to all. I love my RV's and the RV-List.
Robin
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| Subject: | Thanks at Christmas |
Here is a web based, non Matronics restricted, greeting for all you you
dedicated RV-10 builders, financial contributors, and posters who have
made this such a great year in these trying times. Happy New Year too!
Subject: Christmas card
Click here for your card.
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John Cox
Aurora State Airport,
Aurora, Oregon (home of Vans)
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| Subject: | Re: Aerosport Carbon Fiber Panel |
Anyone mount a throttle quadrant with the carbon fiber panel. We are just mounting
the CP in our 10 , and plan to install the Van's quadrant. Any help would
be appreciated.
Ron Belliveau
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278819#278819
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| Subject: | Re: Thanks at Christmas |
John, thanks so much.... based on our conversations in the past..... I kept
waiting for the "ball to drop", so to speak....- pleasantly surprised wh
en it didn't.- Thanks again
Don McDonald
--- On Thu, 12/24/09, John Cox <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> wrote:
From: John Cox <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
Subject: RV10-List: Thanks at Christmas
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Here is a web based, non Matronics restricted, greeting for all you you ded
icated RV-10 builders, financial contributors, and posters who have made th
is such a great year in these trying times.- Happy New Year too!
Subject:-Christmas card
Click here for your card.
John Cox
Aurora State Airport,
Aurora, Oregon (home of Vans)
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| Subject: | Santa and Crosswind Landings |
I hope he's really good at performing crosswind landings. Because he's
going to be tested tonight.
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