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| Subject: | Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone |
Hi Tim,
Thanks!=C2- Merry Christmas!
=C2-Brian and Ruth
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 6:23:11 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
;). It's a term for a hack you can do that gives you access to more feature
s and apps than you normally can get from apple, some of it very useful fun
ctionality. =C2-It's definitely not for everyone, but for those with a fe
w pc skills or who don't mind doing a little online reading, you can do som
e cool things with a jailbroken phone. =C2- If only things like myWi, sbs
ettings, and roqyby Bluetooth stack were on the apple app store there would
be no need for jailbreaking, but apple is a bit restrictive in their offer
ings so it forces people to do things to bypass them when they want that fu
nctionality. =C2-Just google the term and you'll find tons of info, but i
t's probably best for tech savvy folk....surprisingly there are tons of gee
ks who build planes though.
Tim
On Dec 24, 2009, at 8:52 AM, cloudvalley@comcast.net wrote:
Hi Tim,
=C2-I was a biochem major. What is "jailbreak"??=C2- My wife and I are
thnking of getting rid of our XM radio subscription and buying an IPOD touc
h for our music, and other things. We have a 696 we will use only for WX an
d traffic. We installed a new PMA 7000 audio panel and want to use the IPOD
with it.
Thanks in advance.
Brian and Ruth Preston
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Olson" < Tim@MyRV10.com >
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 5:20:12 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
Yes, I also agree with your point...the overall cost of owning
an iphone can be pretty high, unless maybe you get rid of
another cellphone to offset the cost. =C2-For Andrea, she still
only has a verizon cellphone, and an ipod touch 3rd Generation.
If Verizon had the iPhone, I'd throw away all the phones
I have today and buy immediately 2 Verizon iPhones, because
in my area, AT&T stinks big time and Verizon rocks.
For things like Foreflight, an iPod touch will work great
except for data transmitting....your only choice is WiFi.
(more on that below).
Anyway, here's the way to go if you want to do it on an
iPod touch... =C2-Get the Touch 32Gb version if you plan to use
it for lots more than Foreflight...like lots of music.
My 32GB is down to 5GB remaining already. =C2-The 8GB would
suffice if you ONLY use it for Foreflight, and the 16GB
would do if you're not into any videos on the device and
tons of apps. =C2-The processors are faster in the 16 and
32GB models, so I wouldn't buy the 8GB either way.
You get the iPod touch, then jailbreak it. =C2-This is super easy.
The only restriction is that if you use a 3rd Gen ipod Touch,
you can't reboot it once it's jailbroken unless you tether
it to the PC and run the jailbreak software. =C2-(I used
Blackra1n to jailbreak...other methods may not have this limitation
but I think Blackra1n is the simplest method...any idiot
can jailbreak it in 2 minutes) =C2-With the jailbroken iPod
Touch, you can go to the cydia app store and buy ROQYBT. It's
a Bluetooth GPS stack for the ipod touch. =C2-To license
it will cost you just over $12 US. =C2-With this, you now
can get a cheap little GPS (I use a holux M-1000 for about
$40-45), and still have all the same GPS functionality that
a real iPhone 3GS would have. =C2-It's pretty awesome.
So it's cheap and easy and you can have in-flight map
tracking on VFR and IFR charts. (not approach plates).
Now, one more cool tip. =C2-For guys like you, who have an
iPhone already, you can actually share your data service
to that iPod Touch. =C2-If you jailbreak your iPhone, you can
go to "Rock" app store, and buy MyWi, a WiFi tethering
app that works with Edge mode or 3G. =C2-It's $10, and what
it does it set up a little WiFi AdHoc network that your
ipod Touch can connect to, and the touch can then use it's
wifi to use your 3G service. =C2-It's darn cool stuff.
I've used it with the kids iPod touches so that they
can get online while we travel, via my iphone. =C2-Very neat
stuff indeed.
So for the person who doesn't want a cellphone plan but wants
software like this, the ipod touch is a way to do it. =C2-At our
house, we ended up with 3 touches and 1 iphone for now, so that
everyone has their own device and it's awesome because we all
can check our email and play games...the kids play UNO with
people and stuff all the time. =C2-It's really been handy on this
trip because just that one device and provide music, movies,
and games, and you can't find much that weighs less to carry.
I have a 4-port USB charger and every night we're all charged
back up.
I'm writing this on my laptop, via my iphone 3G connection. :)
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
Robin Marks wrote:
>
> You can also use the Apple Touch to do all this correct?
>
> System Requirements:
> You need one of the following to run ForeFlight Mobile 3:
> Apple iPhone, Firmware Version 3.0 or later (any iPhone) - iPhone 3GS
> recommended
> Apple iPod touch, Firmware version 3.0 or later (any iPod touch) - iPod
> touch 2G recommended
>
> It may be cheaper than a $100 cell phone monthly bill and crappy cell
> reception. Don't get me wrong I love my iPhone, it does everything
> including dropping calls I could not hear anyway.
> I have two iPhones = $200/month. I have 5 cell phones = $226.00/month
.
>
> Looking forward to Apples new 10" tablet. Errrr rumored tablet due to
> announce in January for late spring, early summer release.
> =C2-
> Robin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Seano
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:34 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
>
>
> Nice work ITIM.
>
> Can't wait until my T-Mobile contract is up in April 2010 so I can join
> in
> the fun. =C2-Scott rubs it in my face too!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Olson" < Tim@MyRV10.com >
> To: < rv10-list@matronics.com >
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 9:05 PM
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
>
>
>>
>> Now that I'm back on the ground and have my laptop handy again, here
>> is a quick snapshot set that I just put together. =C2-It is basically
>> the 2 emails that I received when I filed my flight plan for the
>> return trip today. =C2-It shows a great example of the notification
>> email you get, plus the briefing email that you get when you file
>> a flight plan in Foreflight 3.0.
>>
>> http://www.myrv10.com/tips/IFR/Foreflight_Filing_Example
>>
>> This trip so far I have filed all my IFR plans in Foreflight Mobile
>> 3.0, and I filed them all less than 20 minutes before departure, and
>> my plan was on hand when I called for clearance.
>>
>> Today was a particularly thrilling day....I departed Key West and
>> flew straight north over about 90 miles of water. =C2-I filed direct
>> to Leesburg in central FL. =C2-As I was climbing and leveling off at
>> 8000', they threw me a curve ball and asked me if I've got the
>> Minne.4 arrival on hand because they needed me to fly the minne.4
>> STAR with the RSW entry. =C2-Since I had my tablet and iphone on board
,
>> I said "well sure, but do you need me to have it right away, or
>> can I wait until I'm over land". =C2-(I didn't want to do anything
>> at all to upset the apple cart while flying over that vast water
>> stretch, so didn't want to dig out anything and turn on devices
>> immediate as I was still leveling out and leaning to LOP fuel
>> flows (10.5 gph today)). =C2-They said sure, just head direct RSW
>> and let them know when I had it handy. =C2-So after we settled in,
>> I decided to leave the tablet stowed and just try the iphone
>> with Foreflight Mobile 3.0 instead. =C2-Sure enough, I had the STAR
>> downloaded with all my Florida items, and I pulled it up and
>> read through it. =C2-It was pretty simple, with a few various fixes,
>> and then some vectoring at the end. =C2-So I called back and said
>> I had it, and I loaded it into the Cheltons. =C2-It was easy on
>> the Cheltons to load it up, and it displayed the entire arrival
>> sequence, and was ready for me to add the IFR approach if necessary.
>> It drew the whole arrival on my MFD. =C2-Then they gave me a 5000'
>> crossing altitude for one of the fixes, so I punched in the VNAV
>> on the Cheltons and set a 2.2 degree descent with automatic VNAV
>> to 5000' exactly as I hit the fix. =C2-It was awesome....filing
>> with an iphone, getting the STAR (something that I rarely need
>> to do for the places I fly) on the iphone using foreflight,
>> and then playing with the STAR and VNAV on the EFIS and having it
>> all work perfectly. =C2-It was an awesome flight to wrap up before
>> Christmas....hopefully the rest of the trip home will go as
>> smoothly.
>>
>> Although I really like Voyager and plan to use the tablet for
>> those scuzzy low approaches, because it's geo-referenced approach
>> plates are awesome and it's nice stuff, today I wasn't in the
>> clouds too much and it was a perfect day to leave it stowed and
>> rely on the iphone.
>>
>> The above link is the textual emails I received, printed and
>> cropped to .jpgs for viewing here on the web, so you can see
>> how it's formatted. =C2-I'm pretty impressed, because if you just
>> check your mail after filing the plan, you have that whole
>> briefing in your inbox. =C2-On the way down to FL, I was able to
>> review in more detail the whole thing even hours in advance, for
>> lots more information than I'd care to hear from a briefer by
>> phone.
>>
>> Coming up on 600 hours in the RV-10 pretty soon...it's been
>> such a wonderful plane.
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>>
>>
>>
>> lbgjb10 wrote:
>>>
>>> If you file your flight plan with Foreflight 3.0, do you get any
> feedback
>>> that the flight plan went thru??
>>>
>>> --------
>>> Larry and Gayle N104LG
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278735#278735
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Aerosport Carbon Fiber Panel |
Ron go to
Www.aerosportproducts.com
We have a throttle quadrant cover and
Bracket
Geoff
Sent from my iPhone Geoff
On Dec 24, 2009, at 6:17 PM, "Ron B." <cfxoa@klis.com> wrote:
>
> Anyone mount a throttle quadrant with the carbon fiber panel. We are
> just mounting the CP in our 10 , and plan to install the Van's
> quadrant. Any help would be appreciated.
> Ron Belliveau
>
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| Subject: | Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhon |
Hey Tim have you looked at pilot my cast
For the iphone. It just came available.
Your thoughts on this. It is more money 10.00
A month.
Sent from my iPhone Geoff
On Dec 25, 2009, at 8:18 AM, cloudvalley@comcast.net wrote:
> Hi Tim,
>
> Thanks! Merry Christmas!
>
> Brian and Ruth
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 6:23:11 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada
> Pacific
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
>
>
> ;). It's a term for a hack you can do that gives you access to more
> features and apps than you normally can get from apple, some of it
> very useful functionality. It's definitely not for everyone, but
> for those with a few pc skills or who don't mind doing a little
> online reading, you can do some cool things with a jailbroken
> phone. If only things like myWi, sbsettings, and roqyby Bluetooth
> stack were on the apple app store there would be no need for
> jailbreaking, but apple is a bit restrictive in their offerings so
> it forces people to do things to bypass them when they want that
> functionality. Just google the term and you'll find tons of info,
> but it's probably best for tech savvy folk....surprisingly there are
> tons of geeks who build planes though.
> Tim
>
>
> On Dec 24, 2009, at 8:52 AM, cloudvalley@comcast.net wrote:
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> I was a biochem major. What is "jailbreak"?? My wife and I are
> thnking of getting rid of our XM radio subscription and buying an
> IPOD touch for our music, and other things. We have a 696 we will
> use only for WX and traffic. We installed a new PMA 7000 audio panel
> and want to use the IPOD with it.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
> Brian and Ruth Preston
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 5:20:12 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada
> Pacific
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
>
>
> Yes, I also agree with your point...the overall cost of owning
> an iphone can be pretty high, unless maybe you get rid of
> another cellphone to offset the cost. For Andrea, she still
> only has a verizon cellphone, and an ipod touch 3rd Generation.
> If Verizon had the iPhone, I'd throw away all the phones
> I have today and buy immediately 2 Verizon iPhones, because
> in my area, AT&T stinks big time and Verizon rocks.
> For things like Foreflight, an iPod touch will work great
> except for data transmitting....your only choice is WiFi.
> (more on that below).
>
>
> Anyway, here's the way to go if you want to do it on an
> iPod touch... Get the Touch 32Gb version if you plan to use
> it for lots more than Foreflight...like lots of music.
> My 32GB is down to 5GB remaining already. The 8GB would
> suffice if you ONLY use it for Foreflight, and the 16GB
> would do if you're not into any videos on the device and
> tons of apps. The processors are faster in the 16 and
> 32GB models, so I wouldn't buy the 8GB either way.
>
> You get the iPod touch, then jailbreak it. This is super easy.
> The only restriction is that if you use a 3rd Gen ipod Touch,
> you can't reboot it once it's jailbroken unless you tether
> it to the PC and run the jailbreak software. (I used
> Blackra1n to jailbreak...other methods may not have this limitation
> but I think Blackra1n is the simplest method...any idiot
> can jailbreak it in 2 minutes) With the jailbroken iPod
> Touch, you can go to the cydia app store and buy ROQYBT. It's
> a Bluetooth GPS stack for the ipod touch. To license
> it will cost you just over $12 US. With this, you now
> can get a cheap little GPS (I use a holux M-1000 for about
> $40-45), and still have all the same GPS functionality that
> a real iPhone 3GS would have. It's pretty awesome.
> So it's cheap and easy and you can have in-flight map
> tracking on VFR and IFR charts. (not approach plates).
>
> Now, one more cool tip. For guys like you, who have an
> iPhone already, you can actually share your data service
> to that iPod Touch. If you jailbreak your iPhone, you can
> go to "Rock" app store, and buy MyWi, a WiFi tethering
> app that works with Edge mode or 3G. It's $10, and what
> it does it set up a little WiFi AdHoc network that your
> ipod Touch can connect to, and the touch can then use it's
> wifi to use your 3G service. It's darn cool stuff.
> I've used it with the kids iPod touches so that they
> can get online while we travel, via my iphone. Very neat
> stuff indeed.
>
> So for the person who doesn't want a cellphone plan but wants
> software like this, the ipod touch is a way to do it. At our
> house, we ended up with 3 touches and 1 iphone for now, so that
> everyone has their own device and it's awesome because we all
> can check our email and play games...the kids play UNO with
> people and stuff all the time. It's really been handy on this
> trip because just that one device and provide music, movies,
> and games, and you can't find much that weighs less to carry.
> I have a 4-port USB charger and every night we're all charged
> back up.
>
> I'm writing this on my laptop, via my iphone 3G connection. :)
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>
>
> Robin Marks wrote:
> >
> >
> > You can also use the Apple Touch to do all this correct?
> >
> > System Requirements:
> > You need one of the following to run ForeFlight Mobile 3:
> > Apple iPhone, Firmware Version 3.0 or later (any iPhone) - iPhone
> 3GS
> > recommended
> > Apple iPod touch, Firmware version 3.0 or later (any iPod touch) -
> iPod
> > touch 2G recommended
> >
> > It may be cheaper than a $100 cell phone monthly bill and crappy
> cell
> > reception. Don't get me wrong I love my iPhone, it does everything
> > including dropping calls I could not hear anyway.
> > I have two iPhones = $200/month. I have 5 cell phones = $226.00/
> month.
> >
> > Looking forward to Apples new 10" tablet. Errrr rumored tablet due
> to
> > announce in January for late spring, early summer release.
> >
> > Robin
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Seano
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:34 PM
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
> >
> >
> > Nice work ITIM.
> >
> > Can't wait until my T-Mobile contract is up in April 2010 so I can
> join
> > in
> > the fun. Scott rubs it in my face too!
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> > To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 9:05 PM
> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Now that I'm back on the ground and have my laptop handy again,
> here
> >> is a quick snapshot set that I just put together. It is basically
> >> the 2 emails that I received when I filed my flight plan for the
> >> return trip today. It shows a great example of the notification
> >> email you get, plus the briefing email that you get when you file
> >> a flight plan in Foreflight 3.0.
> >>
> >> http://www.myrv10.com/tips/IFR/Foreflight_Filing_Example
> >>
> >> This trip so far I have filed all my IFR plans in Foreflight Mobile
> >> 3.0, and I filed them all less than 20 minutes before departure,
> and
> >> my plan was on hand when I called for clearance.
> >>
> >> Today was a particularly thrilling day....I departed Key West and
> >> flew straight north over about 90 miles of water. I filed direct
> >> to Leesburg in central FL. As I was climbing and leveling off at
> >> 8000', they threw me a curve ball and asked me if I've got the
> >> Minne.4 arrival on hand because they needed me to fly the minne.4
> >> STAR with the RSW entry. Since I had my tablet and iphone on
> board,
> >> I said "well sure, but do you need me to have it right away, or
> >> can I wait until I'm over land". (I didn't want to do anything
> >> at all to upset the apple cart while flying over that vast water
> >> stretch, so didn't want to dig out anything and turn on devices
> >> immediate as I was still leveling out and leaning to LOP fuel
> >> flows (10.5 gph today)). They said sure, just head direct RSW
> >> and let them know when I had it handy. So after we settled in,
> >> I decided to leave the tablet stowed and just try the iphone
> >> with Foreflight Mobile 3.0 instead. Sure enough, I had the STAR
> >> downloaded with all my Florida items, and I pulled it up and
> >> read through it. It was pretty simple, with a few various fixes,
> >> and then some vectoring at the end. So I called back and said
> >> I had it, and I loaded it into the Cheltons. It was easy on
> >> the Cheltons to load it up, and it displayed the entire arrival
> >> sequence, and was ready for me to add the IFR approach if
> necessary.
> >> It drew the whole arrival on my MFD. Then they gave me a 5000'
> >> crossing altitude for one of the fixes, so I punched in the VNAV
> >> on the Cheltons and set a 2.2 degree descent with automatic VNAV
> >> to 5000' exactly as I hit the fix. It was awesome....filing
> >> with an iphone, getting the STAR (something that I rarely need
> >> to do for the places I fly) on the iphone using foreflight,
> >> and then playing with the STAR and VNAV on the EFIS and having it
> >> all work perfectly. It was an awesome flight to wrap up before
> >> Christmas....hopefully the rest of the trip home will go as
> >> smoothly.
> >>
> >> Although I really like Voyager and plan to use the tablet for
> >> those scuzzy low approaches, because it's geo-referenced approach
> >> plates are awesome and it's nice stuff, today I wasn't in the
> >> clouds too much and it was a perfect day to leave it stowed and
> >> rely on the iphone.
> >>
> >> The above link is the textual emails I received, printed and
> >> cropped to .jpgs for viewing here on the web, so you can see
> >> how it's formatted. I'm pretty impressed, because if you just
> >> check your mail after filing the plan, you have that whole
> >> briefing in your inbox. On the way down to FL, I was able to
> >> review in more detail the whole thing even hours in advance, for
> >> lots more information than I'd care to hear from a briefer by
> >> phone.
> >>
> >> Coming up on 600 hours in the RV-10 pretty soon...it's been
> >> such a wonderful plane.
> >>
> >> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> lbgjb10 wrote:
> >>>
> >>> If you file your flight plan with Foreflight 3.0, do you get any
> > feedback
> >>> that the flight plan went thru??
> >>>
> >>> --------
> >>> Larry and Gayle N104LG
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Read this topic online here:
> >>>
> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278735#278735
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhon |
I did but didn't buy it. It's typical Garmin....pay premium bucks but
don't give everything that competing products give. It doesn't offer
the Sectionals and low enroutes, and approach plates and those
features. The weather features look pretty nice but when you compare
it to other apps you get lots less for your money. Probably a nice app
at $25/yr if you didn't already own a more complete package, but at
$120/yr it's a waste of extra cash that you could spend on other more
feature filled apps.
Tim
On Dec 25, 2009, at 11:04 AM, "g.combs"
<g.combs@aerosportmodeling.com> wrote:
> Hey Tim have you looked at pilot my cast
> For the iphone. It just came available.
> Your thoughts on this. It is more money 10.00
> A month.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone Geoff
>
>
> On Dec 25, 2009, at 8:18 AM, cloudvalley@comcast.net wrote:
>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>> Thanks! Merry Christmas!
>>
>> Brian and Ruth
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 6:23:11 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada
>> Pacific
>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
>>
>>
>> ;). It's a term for a hack you can do that gives you access to more
>> features and apps than you normally can get from apple, some of it
>> very useful functionality. It's definitely not for everyone, but
>> for those with a few pc skills or who don't mind doing a little
>> online reading, you can do some cool things with a jailbroken
>> phone. If only things like myWi, sbsettings, and roqyby Bluetooth
>> stack were on the apple app store there would be no need for
>> jailbreaking, but apple is a bit restrictive in their offerings so
>> it forces people to do things to bypass them when they want that
>> functionality. Just google the term and you'll find tons of info,
>> but it's probably best for tech savvy folk....surprisingly there
>> are tons of geeks who build planes though.
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 24, 2009, at 8:52 AM, cloudvalley@comcast.net wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tim,
>>
>> I was a biochem major. What is "jailbreak"?? My wife and I are
>> thnking of getting rid of our XM radio subscription and buying an
>> IPOD touch for our music, and other things. We have a 696 we will
>> use only for WX and traffic. We installed a new PMA 7000 audio
>> panel and want to use the IPOD with it.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>>
>> Brian and Ruth Preston
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 5:20:12 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada
>> Pacific
>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
>>
>>
>> Yes, I also agree with your point...the overall cost of owning
>> an iphone can be pretty high, unless maybe you get rid of
>> another cellphone to offset the cost. For Andrea, she still
>> only has a verizon cellphone, and an ipod touch 3rd Generation.
>> If Verizon had the iPhone, I'd throw away all the phones
>> I have today and buy immediately 2 Verizon iPhones, because
>> in my area, AT&T stinks big time and Verizon rocks.
>> For things like Foreflight, an iPod touch will work great
>> except for data transmitting....your only choice is WiFi.
>> (more on that below).
>>
>>
>> Anyway, here's the way to go if you want to do it on an
>> iPod touch... Get the Touch 32Gb version if you plan to use
>> it for lots more than Foreflight...like lots of music.
>> My 32GB is down to 5GB remaining already. The 8GB would
>> suffice if you ONLY use it for Foreflight, and the 16GB
>> would do if you're not into any videos on the device and
>> tons of apps. The processors are faster in the 16 and
>> 32GB models, so I wouldn't buy the 8GB either way.
>>
>> You get the iPod touch, then jailbreak it. This is super easy.
>> The only restriction is that if you use a 3rd Gen ipod Touch,
>> you can't reboot it once it's jailbroken unless you tether
>> it to the PC and run the jailbreak software. (I used
>> Blackra1n to jailbreak...other methods may not have this limitation
>> but I think Blackra1n is the simplest method...any idiot
>> can jailbreak it in 2 minutes) With the jailbroken iPod
>> Touch, you can go to the cydia app store and buy ROQYBT. It's
>> a Bluetooth GPS stack for the ipod touch. To license
>> it will cost you just over $12 US. With this, you now
>> can get a cheap little GPS (I use a holux M-1000 for about
>> $40-45), and still have all the same GPS functionality that
>> a real iPhone 3GS would have. It's pretty awesome.
>> So it's cheap and easy and you can have in-flight map
>> tracking on VFR and IFR charts. (not approach plates).
>>
>> Now, one more cool tip. For guys like you, who have an
>> iPhone already, you can actually share your data service
>> to that iPod Touch. If you jailbreak your iPhone, you can
>> go to "Rock" app store, and buy MyWi, a WiFi tethering
>> app that works with Edge mode or 3G. It's $10, and what
>> it does it set up a little WiFi AdHoc network that your
>> ipod Touch can connect to, and the touch can then use it's
>> wifi to use your 3G service. It's darn cool stuff.
>> I've used it with the kids iPod touches so that they
>> can get online while we travel, via my iphone. Very neat
>> stuff indeed.
>>
>> So for the person who doesn't want a cellphone plan but wants
>> software like this, the ipod touch is a way to do it. At our
>> house, we ended up with 3 touches and 1 iphone for now, so that
>> everyone has their own device and it's awesome because we all
>> can check our email and play games...the kids play UNO with
>> people and stuff all the time. It's really been handy on this
>> trip because just that one device and provide music, movies,
>> and games, and you can't find much that weighs less to carry.
>> I have a 4-port USB charger and every night we're all charged
>> back up.
>>
>> I'm writing this on my laptop, via my iphone 3G connection. :)
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>>
>>
>>
>> Robin Marks wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > You can also use the Apple Touch to do all this correct?
>> >
>> > System Requirements:
>> > You need one of the following to run ForeFlight Mobile 3:
>> > Apple iPhone, Firmware Version 3.0 or later (any iPhone) - iPhone
>> 3GS
>> > recommended
>> > Apple iPod touch, Firmware version 3.0 or later (any iPod touch)
>> - iPod
>> > touch 2G recommended
>> >
>> > It may be cheaper than a $100 cell phone monthly bill and crappy
>> cell
>> > reception. Don't get me wrong I love my iPhone, it does everything
>> > including dropping calls I could not hear anyway.
>> > I have two iPhones = $200/month. I have 5 cell phones = $226.00/
>> month.
>> >
>> > Looking forward to Apples new 10" tablet. Errrr rumored tablet
>> due to
>> > announce in January for late spring, early summer release.
>> >
>> > Robin
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Seano
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:34 PM
>> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
>> >
>> >
>> > Nice work ITIM.
>> >
>> > Can't wait until my T-Mobile contract is up in April 2010 so I
>> can join
>> > in
>> > the fun. Scott rubs it in my face too!
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>> > To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 9:05 PM
>> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Now that I'm back on the ground and have my laptop handy again,
>> here
>> >> is a quick snapshot set that I just put together. It is basically
>> >> the 2 emails that I received when I filed my flight plan for the
>> >> return trip today. It shows a great example of the notification
>> >> email you get, plus the briefing email that you get when you file
>> >> a flight plan in Foreflight 3.0.
>> >>
>> >> http://www.myrv10.com/tips/IFR/Foreflight_Filing_Example
>> >>
>> >> This trip so far I have filed all my IFR plans in Foreflight
>> Mobile
>> >> 3.0, and I filed them all less than 20 minutes before departure,
>> and
>> >> my plan was on hand when I called for clearance.
>> >>
>> >> Today was a particularly thrilling day....I departed Key West and
>> >> flew straight north over about 90 miles of water. I filed direct
>> >> to Leesburg in central FL. As I was climbing and leveling off at
>> >> 8000', they threw me a curve ball and asked me if I've got the
>> >> Minne.4 arrival on hand because they needed me to fly the minne.4
>> >> STAR with the RSW entry. Since I had my tablet and iphone on
>> board,
>> >> I said "well sure, but do you need me to have it right away, or
>> >> can I wait until I'm over land". (I didn't want to do anything
>> >> at all to upset the apple cart while flying over that vast water
>> >> stretch, so didn't want to dig out anything and turn on devices
>> >> immediate as I was still leveling out and leaning to LOP fuel
>> >> flows (10.5 gph today)). They said sure, just head direct RSW
>> >> and let them know when I had it handy. So after we settled in,
>> >> I decided to leave the tablet stowed and just try the iphone
>> >> with Foreflight Mobile 3.0 instead. Sure enough, I had the STAR
>> >> downloaded with all my Florida items, and I pulled it up and
>> >> read through it. It was pretty simple, with a few various fixes,
>> >> and then some vectoring at the end. So I called back and said
>> >> I had it, and I loaded it into the Cheltons. It was easy on
>> >> the Cheltons to load it up, and it displayed the entire arrival
>> >> sequence, and was ready for me to add the IFR approach if
>> necessary.
>> >> It drew the whole arrival on my MFD. Then they gave me a 5000'
>> >> crossing altitude for one of the fixes, so I punched in the VNAV
>> >> on the Cheltons and set a 2.2 degree descent with automatic VNAV
>> >> to 5000' exactly as I hit the fix. It was awesome....filing
>> >> with an iphone, getting the STAR (something that I rarely need
>> >> to do for the places I fly) on the iphone using foreflight,
>> >> and then playing with the STAR and VNAV on the EFIS and having it
>> >> all work perfectly. It was an awesome flight to wrap up before
>> >> Christmas....hopefully the rest of the trip home will go as
>> >> smoothly.
>> >>
>> >> Although I really like Voyager and plan to use the tablet for
>> >> those scuzzy low approaches, because it's geo-referenced approach
>> >> plates are awesome and it's nice stuff, today I wasn't in the
>> >> clouds too much and it was a perfect day to leave it stowed and
>> >> rely on the iphone.
>> >>
>> >> The above link is the textual emails I received, printed and
>> >> cropped to .jpgs for viewing here on the web, so you can see
>> >> how it's formatted. I'm pretty impressed, because if you just
>> >> check your mail after filing the plan, you have that whole
>> >> briefing in your inbox. On the way down to FL, I was able to
>> >> review in more detail the whole thing even hours in advance, for
>> >> lots more information than I'd care to hear from a briefer by
>> >> phone.
>> >>
>> >> Coming up on 600 hours in the RV-10 pretty soon...it's been
>> >> such a wonderful plane.
>> >>
>> >> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> lbgjb10 wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> If you file your flight plan with Foreflight 3.0, do you get any
>> > feedback
>> >>> that the flight plan went thru??
>> >>>
>> >>> --------
>> >>> Larry and Gayle N104LG
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Read this topic online here:
>> >>>
>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278735#278735
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Tim thanks for your input. I feel the same about
The pilot my cast. I love the weather map but do agree
You do not get all the other stuff.
I had this app a couple years ago and really
Enjoyed it At that time.
Merry Christmas
Geoff
Sent from my iPhone Geoff
On Dec 25, 2009, at 11:31 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
> I did but didn't buy it. It's typical Garmin....pay premium bucks
> but don't give everything that competing products give. It doesn't
> offer the Sectionals and low enroutes, and approach plates and those
> features. The weather features look pretty nice but when you
> compare it to other apps you get lots less for your money. Probably
> a nice app at $25/yr if you didn't already own a more complete
> package, but at $120/yr it's a waste of extra cash that you could
> spend on other more feature filled apps.
> Tim
>
>
> On Dec 25, 2009, at 11:04 AM, "g.combs"
> <g.combs@aerosportmodeling.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey Tim have you looked at pilot my cast
>> For the iphone. It just came available.
>> Your thoughts on this. It is more money 10.00
>> A month.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone Geoff
>>
>>
>> On Dec 25, 2009, at 8:18 AM, cloudvalley@comcast.net wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Tim,
>>>
>>> Thanks! Merry Christmas!
>>>
>>> Brian and Ruth
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 6:23:11 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada
>>> Pacific
>>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>> ;). It's a term for a hack you can do that gives you access to
>>> more features and apps than you normally can get from apple, some
>>> of it very useful functionality. It's definitely not for
>>> everyone, but for those with a few pc skills or who don't mind
>>> doing a little online reading, you can do some cool things with a
>>> jailbroken phone. If only things like myWi, sbsettings, and
>>> roqyby Bluetooth stack were on the apple app store there would be
>>> no need for jailbreaking, but apple is a bit restrictive in their
>>> offerings so it forces people to do things to bypass them when
>>> they want that functionality. Just google the term and you'll
>>> find tons of info, but it's probably best for tech savvy
>>> folk....surprisingly there are tons of geeks who build planes
>>> though.
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 24, 2009, at 8:52 AM, cloudvalley@comcast.net wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Tim,
>>>
>>> I was a biochem major. What is "jailbreak"?? My wife and I are
>>> thnking of getting rid of our XM radio subscription and buying an
>>> IPOD touch for our music, and other things. We have a 696 we will
>>> use only for WX and traffic. We installed a new PMA 7000 audio
>>> panel and want to use the IPOD with it.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Brian and Ruth Preston
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 5:20:12 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada
>>> Pacific
>>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, I also agree with your point...the overall cost of owning
>>> an iphone can be pretty high, unless maybe you get rid of
>>> another cellphone to offset the cost. For Andrea, she still
>>> only has a verizon cellphone, and an ipod touch 3rd Generation.
>>> If Verizon had the iPhone, I'd throw away all the phones
>>> I have today and buy immediately 2 Verizon iPhones, because
>>> in my area, AT&T stinks big time and Verizon rocks.
>>> For things like Foreflight, an iPod touch will work great
>>> except for data transmitting....your only choice is WiFi.
>>> (more on that below).
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyway, here's the way to go if you want to do it on an
>>> iPod touch... Get the Touch 32Gb version if you plan to use
>>> it for lots more than Foreflight...like lots of music.
>>> My 32GB is down to 5GB remaining already. The 8GB would
>>> suffice if you ONLY use it for Foreflight, and the 16GB
>>> would do if you're not into any videos on the device and
>>> tons of apps. The processors are faster in the 16 and
>>> 32GB models, so I wouldn't buy the 8GB either way.
>>>
>>> You get the iPod touch, then jailbreak it. This is super easy.
>>> The only restriction is that if you use a 3rd Gen ipod Touch,
>>> you can't reboot it once it's jailbroken unless you tether
>>> it to the PC and run the jailbreak software. (I used
>>> Blackra1n to jailbreak...other methods may not have this limitation
>>> but I think Blackra1n is the simplest method...any idiot
>>> can jailbreak it in 2 minutes) With the jailbroken iPod
>>> Touch, you can go to the cydia app store and buy ROQYBT. It's
>>> a Bluetooth GPS stack for the ipod touch. To license
>>> it will cost you just over $12 US. With this, you now
>>> can get a cheap little GPS (I use a holux M-1000 for about
>>> $40-45), and still have all the same GPS functionality that
>>> a real iPhone 3GS would have. It's pretty awesome.
>>> So it's cheap and easy and you can have in-flight map
>>> tracking on VFR and IFR charts. (not approach plates).
>>>
>>> Now, one more cool tip. For guys like you, who have an
>>> iPhone already, you can actually share your data service
>>> to that iPod Touch. If you jailbreak your iPhone, you can
>>> go to "Rock" app store, and buy MyWi, a WiFi tethering
>>> app that works with Edge mode or 3G. It's $10, and what
>>> it does it set up a little WiFi AdHoc network that your
>>> ipod Touch can connect to, and the touch can then use it's
>>> wifi to use your 3G service. It's darn cool stuff.
>>> I've used it with the kids iPod touches so that they
>>> can get online while we travel, via my iphone. Very neat
>>> stuff indeed.
>>>
>>> So for the person who doesn't want a cellphone plan but wants
>>> software like this, the ipod touch is a way to do it. At our
>>> house, we ended up with 3 touches and 1 iphone for now, so that
>>> everyone has their own device and it's awesome because we all
>>> can check our email and play games...the kids play UNO with
>>> people and stuff all the time. It's really been handy on this
>>> trip because just that one device and provide music, movies,
>>> and games, and you can't find much that weighs less to carry.
>>> I have a 4-port USB charger and every night we're all charged
>>> back up.
>>>
>>> I'm writing this on my laptop, via my iphone 3G connection. :)
>>>
>>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Robin Marks wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > You can also use the Apple Touch to do all this correct?
>>> >
>>> > System Requirements:
>>> > You need one of the following to run ForeFlight Mobile 3:
>>> > Apple iPhone, Firmware Version 3.0 or later (any iPhone) -
>>> iPhone 3GS
>>> > recommended
>>> > Apple iPod touch, Firmware version 3.0 or later (any iPod touch)
>>> - iPod
>>> > touch 2G recommended
>>> >
>>> > It may be cheaper than a $100 cell phone monthly bill and crappy
>>> cell
>>> > reception. Don't get me wrong I love my iPhone, it does everything
>>> > including dropping calls I could not hear anyway.
>>> > I have two iPhones = $200/month. I have 5 cell phones = $226.00/
>>> month.
>>> >
>>> > Looking forward to Apples new 10" tablet. Errrr rumored tablet
>>> due to
>>> > announce in January for late spring, early summer release.
>>> >
>>> > Robin
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>> > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Seano
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:34 PM
>>> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Nice work ITIM.
>>> >
>>> > Can't wait until my T-Mobile contract is up in April 2010 so I
>>> can join
>>> > in
>>> > the fun. Scott rubs it in my face too!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>> > To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 9:05 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> Now that I'm back on the ground and have my laptop handy again,
>>> here
>>> >> is a quick snapshot set that I just put together. It is
>>> basically
>>> >> the 2 emails that I received when I filed my flight plan for the
>>> >> return trip today. It shows a great example of the notification
>>> >> email you get, plus the briefing email that you get when you file
>>> >> a flight plan in Foreflight 3.0.
>>> >>
>>> >> http://www.myrv10.com/tips/IFR/Foreflight_Filing_Example
>>> >>
>>> >> This trip so far I have filed all my IFR plans in Foreflight
>>> Mobile
>>> >> 3.0, and I filed them all less than 20 minutes before
>>> departure, and
>>> >> my plan was on hand when I called for clearance.
>>> >>
>>> >> Today was a particularly thrilling day....I departed Key West and
>>> >> flew straight north over about 90 miles of water. I filed direct
>>> >> to Leesburg in central FL. As I was climbing and leveling off at
>>> >> 8000', they threw me a curve ball and asked me if I've got the
>>> >> Minne.4 arrival on hand because they needed me to fly the minne.4
>>> >> STAR with the RSW entry. Since I had my tablet and iphone on
>>> board,
>>> >> I said "well sure, but do you need me to have it right away, or
>>> >> can I wait until I'm over land". (I didn't want to do anything
>>> >> at all to upset the apple cart while flying over that vast water
>>> >> stretch, so didn't want to dig out anything and turn on devices
>>> >> immediate as I was still leveling out and leaning to LOP fuel
>>> >> flows (10.5 gph today)). They said sure, just head direct RSW
>>> >> and let them know when I had it handy. So after we settled in,
>>> >> I decided to leave the tablet stowed and just try the iphone
>>> >> with Foreflight Mobile 3.0 instead. Sure enough, I had the STAR
>>> >> downloaded with all my Florida items, and I pulled it up and
>>> >> read through it. It was pretty simple, with a few various fixes,
>>> >> and then some vectoring at the end. So I called back and said
>>> >> I had it, and I loaded it into the Cheltons. It was easy on
>>> >> the Cheltons to load it up, and it displayed the entire arrival
>>> >> sequence, and was ready for me to add the IFR approach if
>>> necessary.
>>> >> It drew the whole arrival on my MFD. Then they gave me a 5000'
>>> >> crossing altitude for one of the fixes, so I punched in the VNAV
>>> >> on the Cheltons and set a 2.2 degree descent with automatic VNAV
>>> >> to 5000' exactly as I hit the fix. It was awesome....filing
>>> >> with an iphone, getting the STAR (something that I rarely need
>>> >> to do for the places I fly) on the iphone using foreflight,
>>> >> and then playing with the STAR and VNAV on the EFIS and having it
>>> >> all work perfectly. It was an awesome flight to wrap up before
>>> >> Christmas....hopefully the rest of the trip home will go as
>>> >> smoothly.
>>> >>
>>> >> Although I really like Voyager and plan to use the tablet for
>>> >> those scuzzy low approaches, because it's geo-referenced approach
>>> >> plates are awesome and it's nice stuff, today I wasn't in the
>>> >> clouds too much and it was a perfect day to leave it stowed and
>>> >> rely on the iphone.
>>> >>
>>> >> The above link is the textual emails I received, printed and
>>> >> cropped to .jpgs for viewing here on the web, so you can see
>>> >> how it's formatted. I'm pretty impressed, because if you just
>>> >> check your mail after filing the plan, you have that whole
>>> >> briefing in your inbox. On the way down to FL, I was able to
>>> >> review in more detail the whole thing even hours in advance, for
>>> >> lots more information than I'd care to hear from a briefer by
>>> >> phone.
>>> >>
>>> >> Coming up on 600 hours in the RV-10 pretty soon...it's been
>>> >> such a wonderful plane.
>>> >>
>>> >> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> lbgjb10 wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> If you file your flight plan with Foreflight 3.0, do you get any
>>> > feedback
>>> >>> that the flight plan went thru??
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --------
>>> >>> Larry and Gayle N104LG
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Read this topic online here:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278735#278735
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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| Subject: | Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhon |
Yeah, I am not positive but I think this app was more recently bought
by garmin but used to be owned by someone else, and available on cell
phones...back in the "olden days" of phone intelligence (2-3 years
ago ;) )
It's amazing how far we came. Scott was emailing me the other day how
cutthroat the apps are these days...one company can make a better app
at a better price, or even an equal app at a better price and almost
overnight they can take a market away from a competitor. That's why I
don't mind paying for a good app since it will help them keep
developing it and supporting it so I don't constantly have things
being obsoleted.
Merry Christmas to all!
Tim
On Dec 25, 2009, at 1:31 PM, "g.combs" <g.combs@aerosportmodeling.com>
wrote:
> Tim thanks for your input. I feel the same about
> The pilot my cast. I love the weather map but do agree
> You do not get all the other stuff.
> I had this app a couple years ago and really
> Enjoyed it At that time.
>
> Merry Christmas
> Geoff
>
> Sent from my iPhone Geoff
>
>
> On Dec 25, 2009, at 11:31 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
>
>> I did but didn't buy it. It's typical Garmin....pay premium bucks
>> but don't give everything that competing products give. It doesn't
>> offer the Sectionals and low enroutes, and approach plates and
>> those features. The weather features look pretty nice but when you
>> compare it to other apps you get lots less for your money. Probably
>> a nice app at $25/yr if you didn't already own a more complete
>> package, but at $120/yr it's a waste of extra cash that you could
>> spend on other more feature filled apps.
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 25, 2009, at 11:04 AM, "g.combs" <g.combs@aerosportmodeling.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Tim have you looked at pilot my cast
>>> For the iphone. It just came available.
>>> Your thoughts on this. It is more money 10.00
>>> A month.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone Geoff
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 25, 2009, at 8:18 AM, cloudvalley@comcast.net wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks! Merry Christmas!
>>>>
>>>> Brian and Ruth
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 6:23:11 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada
>>>> Pacific
>>>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ;). It's a term for a hack you can do that gives you access to
>>>> more features and apps than you normally can get from apple, some
>>>> of it very useful functionality. It's definitely not for
>>>> everyone, but for those with a few pc skills or who don't mind
>>>> doing a little online reading, you can do some cool things with a
>>>> jailbroken phone. If only things like myWi, sbsettings, and
>>>> roqyby Bluetooth stack were on the apple app store there would be
>>>> no need for jailbreaking, but apple is a bit restrictive in their
>>>> offerings so it forces people to do things to bypass them when
>>>> they want that functionality. Just google the term and you'll
>>>> find tons of info, but it's probably best for tech savvy
>>>> folk....surprisingly there are tons of geeks who build planes
>>>> though.
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 24, 2009, at 8:52 AM, cloudvalley@comcast.net wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>>
>>>> I was a biochem major. What is "jailbreak"?? My wife and I are
>>>> thnking of getting rid of our XM radio subscription and buying an
>>>> IPOD touch for our music, and other things. We have a 696 we will
>>>> use only for WX and traffic. We installed a new PMA 7000 audio
>>>> panel and want to use the IPOD with it.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Brian and Ruth Preston
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 5:20:12 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada
>>>> Pacific
>>>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I also agree with your point...the overall cost of owning
>>>> an iphone can be pretty high, unless maybe you get rid of
>>>> another cellphone to offset the cost. For Andrea, she still
>>>> only has a verizon cellphone, and an ipod touch 3rd Generation.
>>>> If Verizon had the iPhone, I'd throw away all the phones
>>>> I have today and buy immediately 2 Verizon iPhones, because
>>>> in my area, AT&T stinks big time and Verizon rocks.
>>>> For things like Foreflight, an iPod touch will work great
>>>> except for data transmitting....your only choice is WiFi.
>>>> (more on that below).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, here's the way to go if you want to do it on an
>>>> iPod touch... Get the Touch 32Gb version if you plan to use
>>>> it for lots more than Foreflight...like lots of music.
>>>> My 32GB is down to 5GB remaining already. The 8GB would
>>>> suffice if you ONLY use it for Foreflight, and the 16GB
>>>> would do if you're not into any videos on the device and
>>>> tons of apps. The processors are faster in the 16 and
>>>> 32GB models, so I wouldn't buy the 8GB either way.
>>>>
>>>> You get the iPod touch, then jailbreak it. This is super easy.
>>>> The only restriction is that if you use a 3rd Gen ipod Touch,
>>>> you can't reboot it once it's jailbroken unless you tether
>>>> it to the PC and run the jailbreak software. (I used
>>>> Blackra1n to jailbreak...other methods may not have this limitation
>>>> but I think Blackra1n is the simplest method...any idiot
>>>> can jailbreak it in 2 minutes) With the jailbroken iPod
>>>> Touch, you can go to the cydia app store and buy ROQYBT. It's
>>>> a Bluetooth GPS stack for the ipod touch. To license
>>>> it will cost you just over $12 US. With this, you now
>>>> can get a cheap little GPS (I use a holux M-1000 for about
>>>> $40-45), and still have all the same GPS functionality that
>>>> a real iPhone 3GS would have. It's pretty awesome.
>>>> So it's cheap and easy and you can have in-flight map
>>>> tracking on VFR and IFR charts. (not approach plates).
>>>>
>>>> Now, one more cool tip. For guys like you, who have an
>>>> iPhone already, you can actually share your data service
>>>> to that iPod Touch. If you jailbreak your iPhone, you can
>>>> go to "Rock" app store, and buy MyWi, a WiFi tethering
>>>> app that works with Edge mode or 3G. It's $10, and what
>>>> it does it set up a little WiFi AdHoc network that your
>>>> ipod Touch can connect to, and the touch can then use it's
>>>> wifi to use your 3G service. It's darn cool stuff.
>>>> I've used it with the kids iPod touches so that they
>>>> can get online while we travel, via my iphone. Very neat
>>>> stuff indeed.
>>>>
>>>> So for the person who doesn't want a cellphone plan but wants
>>>> software like this, the ipod touch is a way to do it. At our
>>>> house, we ended up with 3 touches and 1 iphone for now, so that
>>>> everyone has their own device and it's awesome because we all
>>>> can check our email and play games...the kids play UNO with
>>>> people and stuff all the time. It's really been handy on this
>>>> trip because just that one device and provide music, movies,
>>>> and games, and you can't find much that weighs less to carry.
>>>> I have a 4-port USB charger and every night we're all charged
>>>> back up.
>>>>
>>>> I'm writing this on my laptop, via my iphone 3G connection. :)
>>>>
>>>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Robin Marks wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > You can also use the Apple Touch to do all this correct?
>>>> >
>>>> > System Requirements:
>>>> > You need one of the following to run ForeFlight Mobile 3:
>>>> > Apple iPhone, Firmware Version 3.0 or later (any iPhone) -
>>>> iPhone 3GS
>>>> > recommended
>>>> > Apple iPod touch, Firmware version 3.0 or later (any iPod
>>>> touch) - iPod
>>>> > touch 2G recommended
>>>> >
>>>> > It may be cheaper than a $100 cell phone monthly bill and
>>>> crappy cell
>>>> > reception. Don't get me wrong I love my iPhone, it does
>>>> everything
>>>> > including dropping calls I could not hear anyway.
>>>> > I have two iPhones = $200/month. I have 5 cell phones = $226.00/
>>>> month.
>>>> >
>>>> > Looking forward to Apples new 10" tablet. Errrr rumored tablet
>>>> due to
>>>> > announce in January for late spring, early summer release.
>>>> >
>>>> > Robin
>>>> >
>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>> > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>>> > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Seano
>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:34 PM
>>>> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>>> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Nice work ITIM.
>>>> >
>>>> > Can't wait until my T-Mobile contract is up in April 2010 so I
>>>> can join
>>>> > in
>>>> > the fun. Scott rubs it in my face too!
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>>> > To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 9:05 PM
>>>> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Now that I'm back on the ground and have my laptop handy
>>>> again, here
>>>> >> is a quick snapshot set that I just put together. It is
>>>> basically
>>>> >> the 2 emails that I received when I filed my flight plan for the
>>>> >> return trip today. It shows a great example of the notification
>>>> >> email you get, plus the briefing email that you get when you
>>>> file
>>>> >> a flight plan in Foreflight 3.0.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> http://www.myrv10.com/tips/IFR/Foreflight_Filing_Example
>>>> >>
>>>> >> This trip so far I have filed all my IFR plans in Foreflight
>>>> Mobile
>>>> >> 3.0, and I filed them all less than 20 minutes before
>>>> departure, and
>>>> >> my plan was on hand when I called for clearance.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Today was a particularly thrilling day....I departed Key West
>>>> and
>>>> >> flew straight north over about 90 miles of water. I filed
>>>> direct
>>>> >> to Leesburg in central FL. As I was climbing and leveling off
>>>> at
>>>> >> 8000', they threw me a curve ball and asked me if I've got the
>>>> >> Minne.4 arrival on hand because they needed me to fly the
>>>> minne.4
>>>> >> STAR with the RSW entry. Since I had my tablet and iphone on
>>>> board,
>>>> >> I said "well sure, but do you need me to have it right away, or
>>>> >> can I wait until I'm over land". (I didn't want to do anything
>>>> >> at all to upset the apple cart while flying over that vast water
>>>> >> stretch, so didn't want to dig out anything and turn on devices
>>>> >> immediate as I was still leveling out and leaning to LOP fuel
>>>> >> flows (10.5 gph today)). They said sure, just head direct RSW
>>>> >> and let them know when I had it handy. So after we settled in,
>>>> >> I decided to leave the tablet stowed and just try the iphone
>>>> >> with Foreflight Mobile 3.0 instead. Sure enough, I had the STAR
>>>> >> downloaded with all my Florida items, and I pulled it up and
>>>> >> read through it. It was pretty simple, with a few various
>>>> fixes,
>>>> >> and then some vectoring at the end. So I called back and said
>>>> >> I had it, and I loaded it into the Cheltons. It was easy on
>>>> >> the Cheltons to load it up, and it displayed the entire arrival
>>>> >> sequence, and was ready for me to add the IFR approach if
>>>> necessary.
>>>> >> It drew the whole arrival on my MFD. Then they gave me a 5000'
>>>> >> crossing altitude for one of the fixes, so I punched in the VNAV
>>>> >> on the Cheltons and set a 2.2 degree descent with automatic VNAV
>>>> >> to 5000' exactly as I hit the fix. It was awesome....filing
>>>> >> with an iphone, getting the STAR (something that I rarely need
>>>> >> to do for the places I fly) on the iphone using foreflight,
>>>> >> and then playing with the STAR and VNAV on the EFIS and having
>>>> it
>>>> >> all work perfectly. It was an awesome flight to wrap up before
>>>> >> Christmas....hopefully the rest of the trip home will go as
>>>> >> smoothly.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Although I really like Voyager and plan to use the tablet for
>>>> >> those scuzzy low approaches, because it's geo-referenced
>>>> approach
>>>> >> plates are awesome and it's nice stuff, today I wasn't in the
>>>> >> clouds too much and it was a perfect day to leave it stowed and
>>>> >> rely on the iphone.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The above link is the textual emails I received, printed and
>>>> >> cropped to .jpgs for viewing here on the web, so you can see
>>>> >> how it's formatted. I'm pretty impressed, because if you just
>>>> >> check your mail after filing the plan, you have that whole
>>>> >> briefing in your inbox. On the way down to FL, I was able to
>>>> >> review in more detail the whole thing even hours in advance, for
>>>> >> lots more information than I'd care to hear from a briefer by
>>>> >> phone.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Coming up on 600 hours in the RV-10 pretty soon...it's been
>>>> >> such a wonderful plane.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> lbgjb10 wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> If you file your flight plan with Foreflight 3.0, do you get
>>>> any
>>>> > feedback
>>>> >>> that the flight plan went thru??
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> --------
>>>> >>> Larry and Gayle N104LG
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Read this topic online here:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=278735#278735
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
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| Subject: | Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhon |
Tim Olson wrote:
> Yeah, I am not positive but I think this app was more recently bought
> by garmin but used to be owned by someone else, and available on cell
> phones...back in the "olden days" of phone intelligence (2-3 years ago
> ;) )
> It's amazing how far we came. Scott was emailing me the other day how
> cutthroat the apps are these days...one company can make a better app
> at a better price, or even an equal app at a better price and almost
> overnight they can take a market away from a competitor.
Back in the 'olden days' when I was doing programming ..... I used to
take a program that someone else had written and improve on it. I
wasn't creative enough to come up with the original idea ..... but I
sure could see where the improvements could be.
> That's why I don't mind paying for a good app since it will help them
> keep developing it and supporting it so I don't constantly have things
> being obsoleted.
Won't work .... just for the reason above .... programmers have to keep
writing new stuff to feed the family ..... but it's software customers
that pay and not steal that makes them happy. Improvements in
technology also may make existing programs obsolete since it's easier to
write new than patch old stuff.
> Merry Christmas to all!
Couldn't have said it better.
Linn
> Tim
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| Subject: | Re: Aerosport Carbon Fiber Panel |
Thanks Geoff, I got an e-mail from Bob and I figured that out. I'll be in contact
with you. Are you open for business next week?
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Thanks to all of you who agreed with me that my friend should install an AP. I
used all arguments to convince his wife, who decided to surprise him with the
AFS TruTrak unit that matches his monitors for X-mas. He unwrapped it today
and is very excited that his wife pulled the trigger for him, and thanks to Tricia
at AFS it made it in time ... WOW, what an awesome surprise under the tree!
Later, - Lew
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Painting done!
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Yes give me a call
Sent from my iPhone Geoff
On Dec 25, 2009, at 9:28 PM, "Ron B." <cfxoa@klis.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Geoff, I got an e-mail from Bob and I figured that out. I'll
> be in contact with you. Are you open for business next week?
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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I'm sure everyone feels the same as I do.....- that's great!!!!!- He wi
ll NEVER regret the install!!!!
Don McDonald
--- On Fri, 12/25/09, Lew Gallagher <lewgall@charter.net> wrote:
From: Lew Gallagher <lewgall@charter.net>
Subject: RV10-List: Santa's AP
Thanks to all of you who agreed with me that my friend should install an AP
.- I used all arguments to convince his wife, who decided to surprise him
with the AFS TruTrak- unit that matches his monitors for X-mas.- He un
wrapped it today and is very excited that his wife pulled the trigger for h
im, and thanks to Tricia at AFS it made it in time ... WOW, what an awesome
surprise under the tree!
Later, - Lew
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Fantastic! Maybe for Easter she will buy him some Comm's instead of that
handheld he is so use to using...
Just pulling your leg Lew, way to bust the chain of command and go
straight to the top.
Good news, sometimes common sense comes gift wrapped.
Robin
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don McDonald
Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Santa's AP
I'm sure everyone feels the same as I do..... that's great!!!!! He
will NEVER regret the install!!!!
Don McDonald
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From: Lew Gallagher <lewgall@charter.net>
Subject: RV10-List: Santa's AP
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Date: Friday, December 25, 2009, 7:31 PM
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Thanks to all of you who agreed with me that my friend should
install an AP. I used all arguments to convince his wife, who decided
to surprise him with the AFS TruTrak unit that matches his monitors for
X-mas. He unwrapped it today and is very excited that his wife pulled
the trigger for him, and thanks to Tricia at AFS it made it in time ...
WOW, what an awesome surprise under the tree!
Later, - Lew
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