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1. 06:55 AM - Re: suitable backup instrumentation for IFR (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
2. 07:55 AM - Re: Engine mount ears (Pascal)
3. 08:03 AM - Re: suitable backup instrumentation for IFR (johngoodman)
4. 08:05 AM - Plenum with Lightspeed ignition (Eric_Kallio)
5. 08:14 AM - Re: suitable backup instrumentation for IFR (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
6. 08:49 AM - Re: Re: suitable backup instrumentation for IFR (Tim Olson)
7. 09:14 AM - Re: Re: suitable backup instrumentation for IFR (Bill Mauledriver Watson)
8. 09:39 AM - pressure testing fuel and break lines (Bob-tcw)
9. 09:52 AM - Re: Plenum with Lightspeed ignition (Deems Davis)
10. 09:52 AM - Re: Plenum with Lightspeed ignition (Robin Marks)
11. 09:52 AM - Re: Re: suitable backup instrumentation for IFR (ricksked@cox.net)
12. 09:52 AM - Re: Re: suitable backup instrumentation for IFR (Tim Olson)
13. 09:54 AM - Re: suitable backup instrumentation for IFR (Dave Saylor)
14. 10:37 AM - Re: suitable backup instrumentation for IFR (Bob Turner)
15. 10:53 AM - Re: Re: suitable backup instrumentation for IFR (Tim Olson)
16. 12:08 PM - Navworx (DLM)
17. 12:45 PM - Re: navworx (orchidman)
18. 01:50 PM - Re: Re: navworx (DLM)
19. 02:03 PM - Re: Re: navworx (Richard Gurley)
20. 02:04 PM - FW: ADS600 Installation Manual Attached (DLM)
21. 02:26 PM - Re: Re: navworx (Tim Olson)
22. 02:26 PM - Re: Re: navworx (Bobby J. Hughes)
23. 02:55 PM - Re: Re: navworx (Bobby J. Hughes)
24. 03:16 PM - Re: Re: navworx (Luis Rodriguez)
25. 03:45 PM - Re: Door Hinges (Don McDonald)
26. 03:48 PM - Re: Re: navworx (Dj Merrill)
27. 04:06 PM - Re: Re: navworx (Tim Olson)
28. 04:52 PM - Re: Re: navworx (DLM)
29. 04:54 PM - Re: Door Hinges (Pascal)
30. 08:45 PM - Re: Re: suitable backup instrumentation for IFR (Perry, Phil)
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| Subject: | suitable backup instrumentation for IFR |
I'm doing a pair of AFS Advanced Decks with a Dynon D10A for backup. All t
hree have internal batteries also.
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 7:35 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: suitable backup instrumentation for IFR
Ben,
As someone completely unqualified to answer your question in fu
ll I will take a stab at a partial answer concerning usability of a third s
creen on the -10 panel. I chose the G900x plus a back up Dynon D100 centere
d in front of the Co-Pilot's seat.
In setting BARO or acknowledging on the D100 I have to use the
far right button and find it to be reachable w/o any difficulty. Do I want
to enter in flight plans at that arms length? No. Am I able to refer to tha
t screen for all the required flight info? Absolutely yes. In an ideal worl
d I would definitely have placed a simple metal wedge to have the D100 tilt
more in my direction but still completely usable by the co-pilot. I think
that would be the most preferred 3 screen set up. I do like my D100 with in
tegrated Back Up battery as it seems like a good stand alone back up choice
.
I don't think I would ever trust two completely independent systems from th
e same manufacturer for obvious reasons.
Good luck,
Robin
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Westfall
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 4:34 PM
Subject: RV10-List: suitable backup instrumentation for IFR
I've been kicking around what I think would be a suitable level of backup i
nstrumentation for IFR flight in our RV-10's and I haven't decided so I'd l
ike to spark a conversation about it. I understand it's up their with prim
er wars but... I'm curious as to others thoughts on this.
1) Would you consider dual efis displays from the same manufacturer wit
h two independent ahars and magnetometers sufficient instrumentation? Eg d
ual afs-4500 units w/o additional "steam gauges". Are software glitches th
at might affect both units simultaneously really worth considering?
2) Would a single ahars efis with additional gauges for airspeed, altit
ude, and some form of attitude/bank such as the ADI from trutrak or the new
er RC Allen unit http://www.pca.aero/detail/9372/Instrument/R_C__ALLEN/RCA2
600_Digital_Gyro/ be better/worse than above?
3) Same scenario above but substitute another efis such as a dynon inst
ead of "steam style gauges" - realestate becomes an issue and is it feasibl
e if the unit is stuck all the way on the far right of the panel. If one p
uts Geoff's carbon fiber panel in is it reasonable to read the dynon from t
he left seat if it's on the far right of the panel? Any different than app
roaches from the right seat in spam cans?
4) Is having all electric/battery powered instrumentation really a form
of backup? What about lightning strikes? Is it reasonable to think that
any of your all electric attitude information will survive w/o vaccum gauge
s. Today there really isn't much of an alternative?
5) Would you consider the electrical system to play a big part of this
decision as in Single Alt-Single Batt, Dual Alt-Single Batt, Dual-Dual? Ob
viously most the efis/attitude units can contain their own backup battery s
o is the redundancy in the entire electrical system a "must have" or KISS s
ingle-single?
Personally I'm leaning towards the #1 solution above with the #5 electrical
system designs not really playing much of a part in the overall decision.
I'd hate to one day have some form of issue though and go "geez wish I'd t
hrown the extra $3k at it as I'm sweating in the clouds with a dark panel".
But anything that roasts your electrical system is going to most likely g
et all of it backup included. Has this happened?
Thanks,
-Ben Westfall
www.aeroelectric.com
www.buildersbooks.com
www.homebuilthelp.com
www.howtocrimp.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: Engine mount ears |
My engine came with ears attached but I don't have a Van's IO-540. If
the engine didn't come with the ears or they come shipped separate call
Vans support they should be able to tell you how it's setup.
If it's merely putting the engine on the mounts FF1-5 has that info.
From: Dave Leikam
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 10:33 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Engine mount ears
I am having trouble finding specific information on attaching the
mounting ears to my Van's supplied IO-540. I know this is a simple
procedure, but I am looking for specific washer stacking order and
torque values for the nuts along with any other pertinent info.
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA
Muskego, WI
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| Subject: | Re: suitable backup instrumentation for IFR |
A D-10A with battery backup is sufficient for a backup. The only question is, will
it reboot on it's battery if everything got fried. Unless you have a vacuum
pump, electrically driven gyros and turn-and-banks are gone, as well. The only
thing left is pitot & static - assuming you have something mechanical attached
to them. A wet compass and flashlight would still work, of course.
Which begs the question - what are you doing in a lightning storm IMC at night.
The actual odds are that you will be in a position to rapidly find VMC conditions.
You should have an idea where the bottoms are and your position, because
you always have a Sectional in your hand, right? A hand held 696 suddenly sounds
like a good idea.
John
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Panel delivery soon.
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| Subject: | Plenum with Lightspeed ignition |
Anyone out there install the Sam James plenum with a lightspeed ignition? I am
using the Plenum and cowling from Sam and Will James, however with the ignition
coils mounted on top, I don't imagine the plenum will fit without more modifications
than will already be necessary. Has anyone else used this setup that
can explain how they addressed the issue?
Eric Kallio
N518RV FWF and panel installation.
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| Subject: | suitable backup instrumentation for IFR |
Oh, I should also mention that I will be using a 496 for weather which coul
d act as a worse case tie breaker using their simulated panel page.
Michael
From: Michael Sausen On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:50 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: suitable backup instrumentation for IFR
I'm doing a pair of AFS Advanced Decks with a Dynon D10A for backup. All t
hree have internal batteries also.
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 7:35 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: suitable backup instrumentation for IFR
Ben,
As someone completely unqualified to answer your question in fu
ll I will take a stab at a partial answer concerning usability of a third s
creen on the -10 panel. I chose the G900x plus a back up Dynon D100 centere
d in front of the Co-Pilot's seat.
In setting BARO or acknowledging on the D100 I have to use the
far right button and find it to be reachable w/o any difficulty. Do I want
to enter in flight plans at that arms length? No. Am I able to refer to tha
t screen for all the required flight info? Absolutely yes. In an ideal worl
d I would definitely have placed a simple metal wedge to have the D100 tilt
more in my direction but still completely usable by the co-pilot. I think
that would be the most preferred 3 screen set up. I do like my D100 with in
tegrated Back Up battery as it seems like a good stand alone back up choice
.
I don't think I would ever trust two completely independent systems from th
e same manufacturer for obvious reasons.
Good luck,
Robin
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Westfall
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 4:34 PM
Subject: RV10-List: suitable backup instrumentation for IFR
I've been kicking around what I think would be a suitable level of backup i
nstrumentation for IFR flight in our RV-10's and I haven't decided so I'd l
ike to spark a conversation about it. I understand it's up their with prim
er wars but... I'm curious as to others thoughts on this.
1) Would you consider dual efis displays from the same manufacturer wit
h two independent ahars and magnetometers sufficient instrumentation? Eg d
ual afs-4500 units w/o additional "steam gauges". Are software glitches th
at might affect both units simultaneously really worth considering?
2) Would a single ahars efis with additional gauges for airspeed, altit
ude, and some form of attitude/bank such as the ADI from trutrak or the new
er RC Allen unit http://www.pca.aero/detail/9372/Instrument/R_C__ALLEN/RCA2
600_Digital_Gyro/ be better/worse than above?
3) Same scenario above but substitute another efis such as a dynon inst
ead of "steam style gauges" - realestate becomes an issue and is it feasibl
e if the unit is stuck all the way on the far right of the panel. If one p
uts Geoff's carbon fiber panel in is it reasonable to read the dynon from t
he left seat if it's on the far right of the panel? Any different than app
roaches from the right seat in spam cans?
4) Is having all electric/battery powered instrumentation really a form
of backup? What about lightning strikes? Is it reasonable to think that
any of your all electric attitude information will survive w/o vaccum gauge
s. Today there really isn't much of an alternative?
5) Would you consider the electrical system to play a big part of this
decision as in Single Alt-Single Batt, Dual Alt-Single Batt, Dual-Dual? Ob
viously most the efis/attitude units can contain their own backup battery s
o is the redundancy in the entire electrical system a "must have" or KISS s
ingle-single?
Personally I'm leaning towards the #1 solution above with the #5 electrical
system designs not really playing much of a part in the overall decision.
I'd hate to one day have some form of issue though and go "geez wish I'd t
hrown the extra $3k at it as I'm sweating in the clouds with a dark panel".
But anything that roasts your electrical system is going to most likely g
et all of it backup included. Has this happened?
Thanks,
-Ben Westfall
www.aeroelectric.com
www.buildersbooks.com
www.homebuilthelp.com
www.howtocrimp.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: suitable backup instrumentation for IFR |
Round gauges and a good handheld and some sort of Turn n bank
or horizon would be a great backup. Especially if your
Autopilot still works.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
johngoodman wrote:
> <johngoodman@earthlink.net>
>
> A D-10A with battery backup is sufficient for a backup. The only
> question is, will it reboot on it's battery if everything got fried.
> Unless you have a vacuum pump, electrically driven gyros and
> turn-and-banks are gone, as well. The only thing left is pitot &
> static - assuming you have something mechanical attached to them. A
> wet compass and flashlight would still work, of course.
>
> Which begs the question - what are you doing in a lightning storm IMC
> at night. The actual odds are that you will be in a position to
> rapidly find VMC conditions. You should have an idea where the
> bottoms are and your position, because you always have a Sectional in
> your hand, right? A hand held 696 suddenly sounds like a good idea.
> John
>
> -------- #40572 QB Fuselage, wings finished. Finish Kit progressing.
> Engine on floor & Panel delivery soon. N711JG reserved
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=279090#279090
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: suitable backup instrumentation for IFR |
Tim, what's your latest assessment of the TT ADI as a backup
instrument? I know you've been ambivalent about the ADI versus a T&B.
Wondering how you feel after hundreds of hours?
BTW, I've gone the round guage ASI & Alt with the ADI (and TT AP)
finishing up the backup row. The mini-format guages made it easier to
fit than the big guages.
Bill
Tim Olson wrote:
>
> Round gauges and a good handheld and some sort of Turn n bank
> or horizon would be a great backup. Especially if your
> Autopilot still works.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>
>
> j
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| Subject: | pressure testing fuel and break lines |
I'm finishing up work inside the tunnel including a change out of my low
pressure fuel pump to the new Andair fuel pump. (converting my engine
over to fuel injection from a carburetor) and preparations for a return
fuel line for use with a purge valve. With all these new connections
I decided it would be a good idea to pressure test my fuel lines prior
to declaring completion of the task. I made up a test rig with a
Schrader valve and 0-80 psi gauge and connected it to each wing tank
line and filled the system with 40 psi air.
After filling the system with air (40 psi) and tightening the obvious
leakers I'm now indicating about a 1 psi per hour leak down, however
using refrigerant grade bubbling solution has yielded no more obvious
leaks..(Its very difficult to fully swab down the andair fuel valve
itself, but I have done every connection)
Has anyone else done this sort of testing and if so did you get to zero
psi drop?
Thanks,
Bob Newman
40176
www.tcwtech.com
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| Subject: | Re: Plenum with Lightspeed ignition |
Eric
Ed Hayden has Lightspeeds and the Plenum/Cowl no modifications were
necessary for the LS. here's an album with several pictures of his
plenum installation.
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Ed%20Hayden%20RV-10/index.html
Deems Davis
N519PJ
www.deemsrv10.com
Eric_Kallio wrote:
>
> Anyone out there install the Sam James plenum with a lightspeed ignition? I am
using the Plenum and cowling from Sam and Will James, however with the ignition
coils mounted on top, I don't imagine the plenum will fit without more modifications
than will already be necessary. Has anyone else used this setup that
can explain how they addressed the issue?
>
> Eric Kallio
> N518RV FWF and panel installation.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Plenum with Lightspeed ignition |
Eric,
As the owner of a flying -10 James cowl and (highly modified)
plenum I would CONSIDER a baffling system over the plenum if I had
already committed to the cowl and knowing what I know now. I see
absolutely no benefit to my plenum and several negative considerations
with installing the plenum. These include a complicated mod to fit
around the oil dip stick. A modification everyone has to do because the
plenum does not align with cowl (who would have ever guessed one would
use their SJ -10 plenum with their SJ -10 cowl). The issue you mention
with using alternative ignition systems and the fact that for me to take
off the cowl is about a 4 minute job. Add another 10+ minutes off and
10+ minutes on. What looks like 8 minutes (round trip) for a cowl is
something closer to 30 minutes every time you want access to the top
deck of your engine (or ignition system, fuel lines, spark plugs, turbo
nozzles [yes you will eventually be adding turbo nozzles]).
The benefits of the plenum? Speed, no as far as I can tell Tim's plane
is faster than mine and he has 33 less Hp (but generally flies in cooler
OAT's than I), good looks, not really kind of hard to see, cooler
temps... well that is another story all together.
Don't get me wrong I don't know the unintended consequences to
using a baffle system with the James cowl but I do know that all the
benefits I thought I would be getting with the Plenum have not
materialized while several un-beneficial items have making the plenum a
net negative in my mind.
Good luck & Happy New Year,
Robin
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eric_Kallio
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:05 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Plenum with Lightspeed ignition
Anyone out there install the Sam James plenum with a lightspeed
ignition? I am using the Plenum and cowling from Sam and Will James,
however with the ignition coils mounted on top, I don't imagine the
plenum will fit without more modifications than will already be
necessary. Has anyone else used this setup that can explain how they
addressed the issue?
Eric Kallio
N518RV FWF and panel installation.
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| Subject: | Re: suitable backup instrumentation for IFR |
If I did it again I'd use the Mid Continent 2.5 ADI, that instrument is very compact
and fully independent..I have their CDI for Nav backup tied to either the
GPS or SL-30, I use it as a X reference in flight...the Loc/GS is super sweet...I
do have the TT turn and bank....I don't like the lag it exhibits and I think
their ADI is the same
Rick Sked
N246RS
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From: Bill Mauledriver Watson
Sender: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
ReplyTo: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Dec 29, 2009 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: suitable backup instrumentation for IFR
Tim, what's your latest assessment of the TT ADI as a backup
instrument? I know you've been ambivalent about the ADI versus a T&B.
Wondering how you feel after hundreds of hours?
BTW, I've gone the round guage ASI & Alt with the ADI (and TT AP)
finishing up the backup row. The mini-format guages made it easier to
fit than the big guages.
Bill
Tim Olson wrote:
>
> Round gauges and a good handheld and some sort of Turn n bank
> or horizon would be a great backup. Especially if your
> Autopilot still works.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>
>
> j
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| Subject: | Re: suitable backup instrumentation for IFR |
It's still a tough call. Yeah, you can get some
VSI type info from it, but it isn't super fantastic.
You can't get real magnetic heading, but if you have
the GPS integration or built-in GPS, you can get
track. You can get a built-in backup battery..that's
nice, but unfortunately I don't have that. So, if you
do indeed deck it all out fully, it has some good value.
For me with no internal GPS and no backup battery,
it really doesn't value-add much. One thing I did
like about my TNB was that it was shorter by a long
ways, so it mounted real easy. The ADI is very long,
and inconvenient from a mounting standpoint with how
close to the subpanel it is.
So I'm still pretty ambivalent about it. If I were
spending my money all over again, I'd probably just
get the TNB, because I don't think I'd spend the
extra....having a backup handheld GPS, iphone
GPS, or tablet with Bluetooth GPS would probably give
you plenty of navigation info for an emergency...the
TRK indication on the ADI won't be a big deal at that
point. So all you get is TruTrak's version of an
attitude display and VSI. I don't consider a VSI to
be terribly critical compared to the other instruments.
The attitude display is the big one, but you can
fly awful straight and level with only a compass and
turn n bank if you need to. If it were a spinning
gyro Attitude indicator I'd be more inclined to
keep it, but I don't know that anyone makes a
real cheap one of those, especially in 2.25" size.
I'm real happy that those backups are all just tiny
round 2.25" instruments. When I have tried to
fly Sans-Cheltons, I don't find that I need more
than a TNB, altitude indicator, and my GNS480 to
get places. The GNS480 could be substituted for
pretty easily too, if you aren't planning to fly
a whole low approach.
Part of this decision is made more complicated by
the fact that even if you lost your primaries,
as long as you can get a vector from ATC and
hold straight and level, you should be able to
be a hundred miles away in 30 minutes, so in the
RV-10 you have pretty good access to a large number
of options as long as you can keep it in the air
for a few minutes. Now if you want to talk about
losing your engine while IMC and losing your
primaries at the same time.....I don't know that
anything much can help you but doing a wings-level
gliding straight decent until you break out,
and a good prayer.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
Bill Mauledriver Watson wrote:
> <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>
>
> Tim, what's your latest assessment of the TT ADI as a backup
> instrument? I know you've been ambivalent about the ADI versus a T&B.
> Wondering how you feel after hundreds of hours?
>
> BTW, I've gone the round guage ASI & Alt with the ADI (and TT AP)
> finishing up the backup row. The mini-format guages made it easier to
> fit than the big guages.
>
> Bill
>
> Tim Olson wrote:
>>
>> Round gauges and a good handheld and some sort of Turn n bank
>> or horizon would be a great backup. Especially if your
>> Autopilot still works.
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>>
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| Subject: | Re: suitable backup instrumentation for IFR |
One thing I would add is that whatever backup you decide on, it's important
to place it in a position that's easy for the pilot to use. If the day
comes when you really need that backup, it's going to be a stressful
situation and you'll want as much as possible in your favor. It's tempting
to place the backup in front of right seat, but if you don't have a great
view of it, it might as well not be there.
A D10 or ADI would be marginal for the pilot if optimized for the right
seat. I'd hate to fly an approach on the backup in any case, and having it
way out of your field of view would make it even worse. I placed my D10
immediately above and to the right of my primary, like this:
http://www.advanced-flight-systems.com/Installations/SaylorPlan.jpg
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
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| Subject: | Re: suitable backup instrumentation for IFR |
With the discussion of what's on the panel should the electricity fail, has anyone
thought about the trim? Do the 2-buss people have trim on their emergency
buss?
Flying a partial panel approach without working trim is tough - I'd probably opt
to fly the approach at whatever speed the trim was stuck at, rather than attempt
to hold constant pitch pressure.
--------
Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
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Absolutely necessary...I have mine on the e-bus.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
Bob Turner wrote:
> <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
>
> With the discussion of what's on the panel should the electricity
> fail, has anyone thought about the trim? Do the 2-buss people have
> trim on their emergency buss? Flying a partial panel approach without
> working trim is tough - I'd probably opt to fly the approach at
> whatever speed the trim was stuck at, rather than attempt to hold
> constant pitch pressure.
>
> -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB
>
>
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I spoke with Bill Moffit? there; their website was updated but seems o be
still inaccessible (at least to me). They are still awaiting approval for
the transceiver version. The receive only version is available. I found them
by Google of the navwork corp. and calling their number in Rowllet TX.
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[quote="dlm46007(at)cox.net"]I spoke with Bill Moffit? there; their website was
updated but seems o be still inaccessible (at least to me). They are still
awaiting approval for the transceiver version. The receive only version is available.
I found them by Google of the navwork corp. and calling their number
in Rowllet TX.
> [b]
http://www.navworx.com/ has been working for me for the past 2 days.
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
(N2GB Flying)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=279131#279131
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Your link does not work in AZ
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of orchidman
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 1:43 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: navworx
[quote="dlm46007(at)cox.net"]I spoke with Bill Moffit? there; their website
was updated but seems o be still inaccessible (at least to me). They are
still awaiting approval for the transceiver version. The receive only
version is available. I found them by Google of the navwork corp. and
calling their number in Rowllet TX.
> [b]
http://www.navworx.com/ has been working for me for the past 2 days.
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
(N2GB Flying)
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It does not work for me either in IN
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DLM
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 4:46 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: navworx
Your link does not work in AZ
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of orchidman
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 1:43 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: navworx
[quote="dlm46007(at)cox.net"]I spoke with Bill Moffit? there; their website
was updated but seems o be still inaccessible (at least to me). They are
still awaiting approval for the transceiver version. The receive only
version is available. I found them by Google of the navwork corp. and
calling their number in Rowllet TX.
> [b]
http://www.navworx.com/ has been working for me for the past 2 days.
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
(N2GB Flying)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=279131#279131
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| Subject: | FW: ADS600 Installation Manual Attached |
Someone was asking about Navworx; Enclosed are the latest install documents.
_____
From: Bill [mailto:billm@navworx.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:57 PM
Subject: ADS600 Installation Manual Attached
David,
I've attached the ADS600 installation manual for your review. Please feel
free to contact me if you have any questions.
Best Regards,
Bill Moffitt
NavWorx Incorporated
888-628-9679
972-475-5613 (main)
469-644-2459 (cell)
469-327-2683 (fax)
www.navworx.com
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Works in Wisconsin. :)
Does look like they have some possible misconfiguration
with their DNS records or hosting though, so rather than just
ranting about it, I figured I'd do some quick troubleshooting
and send them what I could so that they can get it taken
care of. DNS issues can take a day or two to go away
once they're fixed, depending on the TTL settings.
I'm sure they will get it worked out. I had email
back and forth with Bill as recent as yesterday afternoon.
Tim
DLM wrote:
>
> Your link does not work in AZ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of orchidman
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 1:43 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: navworx
>
>
> [quote="dlm46007(at)cox.net"]I spoke with Bill Moffit? there; their website
> was updated but seems o be still inaccessible (at least to me). They are
> still awaiting approval for the transceiver version. The receive only
> version is available. I found them by Google of the navwork corp. and
> calling their number in Rowllet TX.
>
>> [b]
>
> http://www.navworx.com/ has been working for me for the past 2 days.
>
> --------
> Gary Blankenbiller
> RV10 - # 40674
> (N2GB Flying)
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=279131#279131
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Works in Texas
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Gurley
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:58 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: navworx
It does not work for me either in IN
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DLM
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 4:46 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: navworx
Your link does not work in AZ
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of orchidman
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 1:43 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: navworx
[quote="dlm46007(at)cox.net"]I spoke with Bill Moffit? there; their
website was updated but seems o be still inaccessible (at least to me).
They are still awaiting approval for the transceiver version. The
receive only version is available. I found them by Google of the navwork
corp. and calling their number in Rowllet TX.
> [b]
http://www.navworx.com/ has been working for me for the past 2 days.
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
(N2GB Flying)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=279131#279131
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Works in Texas
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Gurley
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:58 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: navworx
It does not work for me either in IN
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DLM
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 4:46 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: navworx
Your link does not work in AZ
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of orchidman
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 1:43 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: navworx
[quote="dlm46007(at)cox.net"]I spoke with Bill Moffit? there; their
website was updated but seems o be still inaccessible (at least to me).
They are still awaiting approval for the transceiver version. The
receive only version is available. I found them by Google of the navwork
corp. and calling their number in Rowllet TX.
> [b]
http://www.navworx.com/ has been working for me for the past 2 days.
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
(N2GB Flying)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=279131#279131
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Give more time for the DNS to propagate.
Sent from my iPod
On Dec 29, 2009, at 5:20 PM, "Bobby J. Hughes" <bhughes@qnsi.net> wrote:
>
>
> Works in Texas
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard
> Gurley
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:58 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: navworx
>
>
> It does not work for me either in IN
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DLM
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 4:46 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: navworx
>
>
> Your link does not work in AZ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of orchidman
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 1:43 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: navworx
>
>
> [quote="dlm46007(at)cox.net"]I spoke with Bill Moffit? there; their
> website was updated but seems o be still inaccessible (at least to
> me).
> They are still awaiting approval for the transceiver version. The
> receive only version is available. I found them by Google of the
> navwork
> corp. and calling their number in Rowllet TX.
>
>> [b]
>
> http://www.navworx.com/ has been working for me for the past 2 days.
>
> --------
> Gary Blankenbiller
> RV10 - # 40674
> (N2GB Flying)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=279131#279131
>
>
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Jim Rore..... I need an address...
-
For the rest of you guys that wanted a set..... they're on the way....- P
atrick, from Australia,,, it's gonna take a while to get there!
--- On Tue, 12/22/09, pilotdds@aol.com <pilotdds@aol.com> wrote:
From: pilotdds@aol.com <pilotdds@aol.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Door Hinges
Don I would love a set-thanks jim
-----Original Message-----
From: Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sun, Dec 20, 2009 10:37 pm
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Door Hinges
I made up about 40 sets of these.... because it was just as easy to make 40
as it was 4.- I had them painted prior to installation... that way the h
inges underneath were also totally painted.- Don't have any pics of what
they look like afterward.... maybe I'll shoot those tomorrow.- If anybody
wants a set of 4, let me know....send me an address... cost... $20 includi
ng shipping.... again not trying to make money here, just get some parts ou
t there to my fellow 10 guys.
Damn this planbe is fun to fly.
Don McDonald
Broke the 100 hour mark this weekend.
--- On Sun, 12/20/09, Roxanne and Mike Lefever <roxianmike@msn.com> wrote:
From: Roxanne and Mike Lefever <roxianmike@msn.com>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Door Hinges
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Thanks!
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From: rv10builder@verizon.net
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Door Hinges
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I recall that that I needed to flip the hinges, basically the high end goes
on the-back end-of the front hinge and the forward end-of the back h
inge.
Don MacDonald makes the plates. They are very nice.
P
-
-
From: Roxanne and Mike Lefever
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 5:10 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Door Hinges
I finished making the doors today and assembled the hinges. I notice that t
he hinges(the half for the cabin; and the half for the door) are not on the
same planes, nor even parallel planes...................looking at the pla
ns there no mention of this and which may be appropriate for the fore and a
ft........Anyone have advise on which to put in each location?
-
Moreover, while the welds look fine, the hinges aren't very attractive and
the hinge intersections will be visible.- Is there anyone producing any a
ftermarket replacement......hopefully machined?
-
Mike Lefever
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On 12/29/2009 4:58 PM, Richard Gurley wrote:
> It does not work for me either in IN
>
> http://www.navworx.com/ has been working for me for the past 2 days.
Works for me in Maine.
-Dj
do not archive
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I talked to Bill a bit ago after he called me from
getting my message about the odd DNS and hosting
information. It sounds like recently they switched
Web designers, web hosting companies, and DNS hosting
companies and somewhere in all of that there seems
to be a little misdirection of the domain's DNS.
He's looking into it tonight and provided he can
get into the tools and get a hold of support people
at the hosting company they should be able to get
it all straightened out. "it happens" I guess.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
Dj Merrill wrote:
>
> On 12/29/2009 4:58 PM, Richard Gurley wrote:
>> It does not work for me either in IN
>>
>> http://www.navworx.com/ has been working for me for the past 2 days.
>
>
> Works for me in Maine.
>
> -Dj
> do not archive
>
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How?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Luis Rodriguez
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: navworx
Give more time for the DNS to propagate.
Sent from my iPod
On Dec 29, 2009, at 5:20 PM, "Bobby J. Hughes" <bhughes@qnsi.net> wrote:
>
>
> Works in Texas
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard
> Gurley
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:58 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: navworx
>
>
> It does not work for me either in IN
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DLM
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 4:46 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: navworx
>
>
> Your link does not work in AZ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of orchidman
> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 1:43 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: navworx
>
>
> [quote="dlm46007(at)cox.net"]I spoke with Bill Moffit? there; their
> website was updated but seems o be still inaccessible (at least to
> me).
> They are still awaiting approval for the transceiver version. The
> receive only version is available. I found them by Google of the
> navwork corp. and calling their number in Rowllet TX.
>
>> [b]
>
> http://www.navworx.com/ has been working for me for the past 2 days.
>
> --------
> Gary Blankenbiller
> RV10 - # 40674
> (N2GB Flying)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=279131#279131
>
>
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sometimes the good things in life take time.. those hinges are nice for
sure and worth the wait.
Don; you should start a webpage with all the great upgrades you have
made for the RV-10, the axle extensions, the front axle nut tool, the
hinges and headset brackets.. all very nice work that you should offer
to the new builders who missed the group deals before.
From: Don McDonald
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Door Hinges
Jim Rore..... I need an address...
For the rest of you guys that wanted a set..... they're on the
way.... Patrick, from Australia,,, it's gonna take a while to get
there!
--- On Tue, 12/22/09, pilotdds@aol.com <pilotdds@aol.com> wrote:
From: pilotdds@aol.com <pilotdds@aol.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Door Hinges
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Date: Tuesday, December 22, 2009, 8:49 AM
Don I would love a set-thanks jim
-----Original Message-----
From: Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sun, Dec 20, 2009 10:37 pm
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Door Hinges
I made up about 40 sets of these.... because it was just
as easy to make 40 as it was 4. I had them painted prior to
installation... that way the hinges underneath were also totally
painted. Don't have any pics of what they look like afterward.... maybe
I'll shoot those tomorrow. If anybody wants a set of 4, let me
know....send me an address... cost... $20 including shipping.... again
not trying to make money here, just get some parts out there to my
fellow 10 guys.
Damn this planbe is fun to fly.
Don McDonald
Broke the 100 hour mark this weekend.
--- On Sun, 12/20/09, Roxanne and Mike Lefever
<roxianmike@msn.com> wrote:
From: Roxanne and Mike Lefever <roxianmike@msn.com>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Door Hinges
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Date: Sunday, December 20, 2009, 8:51 PM
Thanks!
----------------------------------------------------------------
From: rv10builder@verizon.net
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Door Hinges
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 18:55:53 -0800
I recall that that I needed to flip the hinges,
basically the high end goes on the back end of the front hinge and the
forward end of the back hinge.
Don MacDonald makes the plates. They are very nice.
P
From: Roxanne and Mike Lefever
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 5:10 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: Door Hinges
I finished making the doors today and assembled the
hinges. I notice that the hinges(the half for the cabin; and the half
for the door) are not on the same planes, nor even parallel
planes...................looking at the plans there no mention of this
and which may be appropriate for the fore and aft........Anyone have
advise on which to put in each location?
Moreover, while the welds look fine, the hinges aren't
very attractive and the hinge intersections will be visible. Is there
anyone producing any aftermarket replacement......hopefully machined?
Mike Lefever
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| Subject: | Re: suitable backup instrumentation for IFR |
Still in the planning session, but it's on the E-bus. For the marginal
amount of power it draws, there's really no benefit to moving off the
E-bus - but there's a whole lot of drawbacks to losing it.
Same thing for LED cabin lights. Having two hands to fly the airplane
in an emergency beats holding a flashlight in one hand, flipping charts
in the other, and flying the airplane with your knees. They draw very
little power and the upside is much greater than the downside.
Phil
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Turner [mailto:bobturner@alum.rpi.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:37 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: suitable backup instrumentation for IFR
With the discussion of what's on the panel should the electricity fail,
has anyone thought about the trim? Do the 2-buss people have trim on
their emergency buss?
Flying a partial panel approach without working trim is tough - I'd
probably opt to fly the approach at whatever speed the trim was stuck
at, rather than attempt to hold constant pitch pressure.
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Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
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