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1. 05:46 AM - Re: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone (Jesse Saint)
2. 06:04 AM - Re: Re: Automotive Spark Plugs (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
3. 06:25 AM - Re: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone (Deems Davis)
4. 06:49 AM - Re: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone (Michael Kraus)
5. 08:04 AM - Re: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone (Tim Olson)
6. 08:06 AM - Re: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
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10. 09:08 AM - car rental discounts (DLM)
11. 09:10 AM - Re: Re: Automotive Spark Plugs (David Maib)
12. 09:20 AM - Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone (lbgjb10)
13. 10:49 AM - Re: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone (Tim Olson)
14. 11:04 AM - Re: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone (Jesse Saint)
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20. 09:10 PM - Re: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone (Bill Schlatterer)
21. 09:36 PM - Re: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone (Tim Olson)
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| Subject: | Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone |
Or you could unlock one and put a SIM card from another carrier in it.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation
jesse@saintaviation.com
352-427-0285
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 31, 2009, at 10:17 PM, Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> wrote:
>
> You guys are driving me crazy, and green w/ envy! I live in an area
> that's not got any at&t coverage, I want an iphone (Foreflight
> really) so bad it hurts! hopegully Google and Android will come to
> the rescue soon.
>
> Deems
>
> Tim Olson wrote:
>>
>> Here, I'll list some of the iphone apps for flying that I have
>> and a short comment about each...
>>
>> Foreflight Mobile 3.0
>> This is the app that everyone should have. It's awesome in
>> too many ways to list. Discount pricing for the rest of tonight.
>> Try filing a VFR flight plan for a route on it once, after
>> downloading the free demo. You'll be amazed at the email you
>> get back.
>>
>>
>> WingX
>> A many-featured app. Not utterly horrible, but so much less
>> user friendly than Foreflight that I would only recommend it
>> if you don't have a handheld or backup in-flight GPS moving
>> map. This app would serve fair, not perfect, from an in-flight
>> GPS perspective, and includes terrain. I wish I could pay
>> just 50% of the price, but ONLY get the nice moving map.
>> That would be an app I'd like. Or better yet, if Foreflight
>> would put in that type of moving map GPS function, I'm
>> sure they'd do a top notch job.
>>
>> Flight Control
>> It's just a game...but a fun one. :)
>>
>>
>> SkyCharts
>> Nice for a cheap, basically VFR only app, with the exception
>> that you can get approach plates but not nearly as handy
>> as the ones in Foreflight. And, you can get graphical weather
>> METAR colors on the map....which also isn't that huge of
>> a deal. But, as long as it's $10, you may as well download
>> it to play with.
>>
>>
>> TrackLog
>> Kind of cool. Similar to APRS and SPOT messenger, this can
>> track you as you fly. I don't know how it works at high
>> altitude when you're not in cell coverage though. But,
>> some people seem to have luck with it. It's cheap enough
>> to try out.
>>
>>
>> PilotFAR
>> Nice to have the regs on hand and searchable....no more
>> buying that stinkin' book every year.
>>
>>
>> Horizon
>> An attitude indicator. Play only, but it's cheap, and
>> something to show to your buds.
>>
>>
>> NavClock
>> If you want more out of a clock app, this one has some good
>> weather info. I rarely use it.
>>
>>
>> AeroWeather
>> A pretty nice weather app that I've used in the past to
>> just get a quick visual wind and weather check for local
>> airports. Foreflight can take it's place though...but
>> at least this one is cheap.
>>
>>
>> FltPlan
>> FlightPlan.com's app. The app itself isn't near as slick
>> as some of the others, but, it does have some neat things
>> like Bahamas airport info. I've only used it a couple times,
>> mainly because their website flight planner gets good
>> reviews. But, I haven't found anything groundbreaking
>> about it.... for me, Foreflight and Voyager are my tools
>> of choice. They do have some EAPIS tools I've read about
>> a little that might be good if you do a lot of international
>> flying, but I'm not sure how much of that is on the iphone app.
>>
>>
>> FlightAware LiveTracking
>> A cool little app for tracking your RV-10 buddies as they
>> fly IFR.
>>
>>
>> LiveATC
>> Online ATC broadcasts from many airports. Fun to listen
>> to when you're bored.
>>
>>
>> RoqyBT
>> A bluetooth stack you can put on an ipod touch (jailbroken)
>> that allows you to use a bluetooth GPS with GPS integrated
>> apps.
>>
>>
>>
>> Other apps non-aviation that I find pretty handy:
>> Note: Starred apps require jailbreaking
>>
>> *MyWi
>> *My3G
>> *Overboard
>>
>> Around Me - This app is AWESOME for if you're traveling
>> and you want to find things that are...well, Around you.
>> Well worth checking out, and it's cheap.
>>
>> RedLaser - Never buy something in a store and kick
>> yourself when you get home and find that the average
>> price is 20% less again.
>>
>> AirMouse - Kind of cool for controlling your mouse on a PC
>> attached to a big screen TV. Geek toy.
>>
>> Skype - Way cool if you're in the Bahamas and can't use
>> your cell phone without spending a million bucks...just
>> use the hotel's wi-fi and you can call home for cheap
>> or free.
>>
>> iGo My Way GPS or Tom Tom GPS - You probably want one of
>> these for when you travel. That way you'll have a full
>> roadable GPS for your rental car. They're invaluable!
>>
>> TextNow - An unlimited texting app. If your kid texts
>> a lot, save your cellphone bill and just make them use
>> this app.
>>
>> SplashID - Here's a favorite of mine....carry all your
>> passwords and website passwords with you every where you
>> go...credit card numbers, bank account numbers, pilot
>> certificate numbers, DUATS code and passwords, everything.
>> It's all stored encrypted and you can get a desktop
>> app to sync it to or enter data easier. I use it all
>> the time and is one of my favorite apps.
>>
>>
>> So there you go....that and a couple of web sites should
>> give you much of what you'd ever want.
>>
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>> Bill Schlatterer wrote:
>>> >
>>>
>>> OK, I spent an hour last night on Foreflight and bought the annual
>>> package.
>>> I love the route briefing and particularly the translated METARS.
>>> I can
>>> read the script but always have to think too hard about the Zulu
>>> times. I
>>> wonder if they will switch to the new PROG charts with the enhanced
>>> graphics. I really like them a lot better than the standard stuff.
>>>
>>> It is a better package than AOPA because it is specifically
>>> designed for the
>>> iPhone. It's cool being able to download charts, airport
>>> directory, and
>>> approachs/stars/sids etc and have them in your hand in the
>>> airplane. Not as
>>> nice to use as a full size chart but cool for reference or in a
>>> pinch.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the tip! Please post any other good iPhone aviation
>>> aps that you
>>> come across.
>>>
>>> Bill S
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Automotive Spark Plugs |
I recall at least 3 OSH's now where I have heard "soon". You can wait fo
r the 6cyl pMag, which may or may not be as buggy as the current and past m
odels, or you can choose one of a couple others that are fairly well proven
and have had most of the bugs sprayed with RAID.
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Froehlich
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 6:45 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Automotive Spark Plugs
Wait for the 6 cylinder pMag....
Carl Froehlich
Previous dual Lightspeed owner on my 8A (450 total hours with many problems
). I now run dual pMags on the 8A (100 trouble free hours so far) and will
put them on my RV-10.
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 6:17 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Automotive Spark Plugs
Robin,
We have used IO540-C4B5. We are running a Lightspeed Plasma III on the le
ft side and the original mag on the right side. I have the automotive plug
s in the top of the cylinders and the aircraft mag plugs on the bottom. We
start on the electronic ignition. RPM drop on the mags only is much highe
r than the electronics only mode.
Waiting with plans to upgrade the right mag to a P-Mag or E-Mag if they eve
r get them done for the 540 series. But may also end up just installing a
second Lightspeed when the mag finally give up.
Working well for us.
Jim C (N312F - Doing the first condition inspection now in a COLD hanger!)
Do Not Archive
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------
As I have only had Dual Mags on now 9 different planes what do people use
with one electronic and one Mag? Automotive plugs on the electronic and
Aviation plugs on the Mag?
Robin
www.aeroelectric.com
www.buildersbooks.com
www.homebuilthelp.com
www.howtocrimp.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
http://forums.matronics.com
rsbooks.com>
m>
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| Subject: | Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone |
My current carrier is Sprint and I've been told that their network isn't
compatible with the iPhone (even unlocked).
Deems
Jesse Saint wrote:
>
> Or you could unlock one and put a SIM card from another carrier in it.
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> 352-427-0285
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 31, 2009, at 10:17 PM, Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> You guys are driving me crazy, and green w/ envy! I live in an area
>> that's not got any at&t coverage, I want an iphone (Foreflight
>> really) so bad it hurts! hopegully Google and Android will come to
>> the rescue soon.
>>
>> Deems
>>
>> Tim Olson wrote:
>>>
>>> Here, I'll list some of the iphone apps for flying that I have
>>> and a short comment about each...
>>>
>>> Foreflight Mobile 3.0
>>> This is the app that everyone should have. It's awesome in
>>> too many ways to list. Discount pricing for the rest of tonight.
>>> Try filing a VFR flight plan for a route on it once, after
>>> downloading the free demo. You'll be amazed at the email you
>>> get back.
>>>
>>>
>>> WingX
>>> A many-featured app. Not utterly horrible, but so much less
>>> user friendly than Foreflight that I would only recommend it
>>> if you don't have a handheld or backup in-flight GPS moving
>>> map. This app would serve fair, not perfect, from an in-flight
>>> GPS perspective, and includes terrain. I wish I could pay
>>> just 50% of the price, but ONLY get the nice moving map.
>>> That would be an app I'd like. Or better yet, if Foreflight
>>> would put in that type of moving map GPS function, I'm
>>> sure they'd do a top notch job.
>>>
>>> Flight Control
>>> It's just a game...but a fun one. :)
>>>
>>>
>>> SkyCharts
>>> Nice for a cheap, basically VFR only app, with the exception
>>> that you can get approach plates but not nearly as handy
>>> as the ones in Foreflight. And, you can get graphical weather
>>> METAR colors on the map....which also isn't that huge of
>>> a deal. But, as long as it's $10, you may as well download
>>> it to play with.
>>>
>>>
>>> TrackLog
>>> Kind of cool. Similar to APRS and SPOT messenger, this can
>>> track you as you fly. I don't know how it works at high
>>> altitude when you're not in cell coverage though. But,
>>> some people seem to have luck with it. It's cheap enough
>>> to try out.
>>>
>>>
>>> PilotFAR
>>> Nice to have the regs on hand and searchable....no more
>>> buying that stinkin' book every year.
>>>
>>>
>>> Horizon
>>> An attitude indicator. Play only, but it's cheap, and
>>> something to show to your buds.
>>>
>>>
>>> NavClock
>>> If you want more out of a clock app, this one has some good
>>> weather info. I rarely use it.
>>>
>>>
>>> AeroWeather
>>> A pretty nice weather app that I've used in the past to
>>> just get a quick visual wind and weather check for local
>>> airports. Foreflight can take it's place though...but
>>> at least this one is cheap.
>>>
>>>
>>> FltPlan
>>> FlightPlan.com's app. The app itself isn't near as slick
>>> as some of the others, but, it does have some neat things
>>> like Bahamas airport info. I've only used it a couple times,
>>> mainly because their website flight planner gets good
>>> reviews. But, I haven't found anything groundbreaking
>>> about it.... for me, Foreflight and Voyager are my tools
>>> of choice. They do have some EAPIS tools I've read about
>>> a little that might be good if you do a lot of international
>>> flying, but I'm not sure how much of that is on the iphone app.
>>>
>>>
>>> FlightAware LiveTracking
>>> A cool little app for tracking your RV-10 buddies as they
>>> fly IFR.
>>>
>>>
>>> LiveATC
>>> Online ATC broadcasts from many airports. Fun to listen
>>> to when you're bored.
>>>
>>>
>>> RoqyBT
>>> A bluetooth stack you can put on an ipod touch (jailbroken)
>>> that allows you to use a bluetooth GPS with GPS integrated
>>> apps.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Other apps non-aviation that I find pretty handy:
>>> Note: Starred apps require jailbreaking
>>>
>>> *MyWi
>>> *My3G
>>> *Overboard
>>>
>>> Around Me - This app is AWESOME for if you're traveling
>>> and you want to find things that are...well, Around you.
>>> Well worth checking out, and it's cheap.
>>>
>>> RedLaser - Never buy something in a store and kick
>>> yourself when you get home and find that the average
>>> price is 20% less again.
>>>
>>> AirMouse - Kind of cool for controlling your mouse on a PC
>>> attached to a big screen TV. Geek toy.
>>>
>>> Skype - Way cool if you're in the Bahamas and can't use
>>> your cell phone without spending a million bucks...just
>>> use the hotel's wi-fi and you can call home for cheap
>>> or free.
>>>
>>> iGo My Way GPS or Tom Tom GPS - You probably want one of
>>> these for when you travel. That way you'll have a full
>>> roadable GPS for your rental car. They're invaluable!
>>>
>>> TextNow - An unlimited texting app. If your kid texts
>>> a lot, save your cellphone bill and just make them use
>>> this app.
>>>
>>> SplashID - Here's a favorite of mine....carry all your
>>> passwords and website passwords with you every where you
>>> go...credit card numbers, bank account numbers, pilot
>>> certificate numbers, DUATS code and passwords, everything.
>>> It's all stored encrypted and you can get a desktop
>>> app to sync it to or enter data easier. I use it all
>>> the time and is one of my favorite apps.
>>>
>>>
>>> So there you go....that and a couple of web sites should
>>> give you much of what you'd ever want.
>>>
>>>
>>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>>> do not archive
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill Schlatterer wrote:
>>>> <billschlatterer@sbcglobal.net>
>>>>
>>>> OK, I spent an hour last night on Foreflight and bought the annual
>>>> package.
>>>> I love the route briefing and particularly the translated METARS.
>>>> I can
>>>> read the script but always have to think too hard about the Zulu
>>>> times. I
>>>> wonder if they will switch to the new PROG charts with the enhanced
>>>> graphics. I really like them a lot better than the standard stuff.
>>>>
>>>> It is a better package than AOPA because it is specifically
>>>> designed for the
>>>> iPhone. It's cool being able to download charts, airport
>>>> directory, and
>>>> approachs/stars/sids etc and have them in your hand in the
>>>> airplane. Not as
>>>> nice to use as a full size chart but cool for reference or in a pinch.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the tip! Please post any other good iPhone aviation aps
>>>> that you
>>>> come across.
>>>>
>>>> Bill S
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone |
FYI, SkyCharts came out with an update yesterday, they now have IFR
low enroute charts! I really like that app!
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 31, 2009, at 9:02 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
>
> Here, I'll list some of the iphone apps for flying that I have
> and a short comment about each...
>
> Foreflight Mobile 3.0
> This is the app that everyone should have. It's awesome in
> too many ways to list. Discount pricing for the rest of tonight.
> Try filing a VFR flight plan for a route on it once, after
> downloading the free demo. You'll be amazed at the email you
> get back.
>
>
> WingX
> A many-featured app. Not utterly horrible, but so much less
> user friendly than Foreflight that I would only recommend it
> if you don't have a handheld or backup in-flight GPS moving
> map. This app would serve fair, not perfect, from an in-flight
> GPS perspective, and includes terrain. I wish I could pay
> just 50% of the price, but ONLY get the nice moving map.
> That would be an app I'd like. Or better yet, if Foreflight
> would put in that type of moving map GPS function, I'm
> sure they'd do a top notch job.
>
> Flight Control
> It's just a game...but a fun one. :)
>
>
> SkyCharts
> Nice for a cheap, basically VFR only app, with the exception
> that you can get approach plates but not nearly as handy
> as the ones in Foreflight. And, you can get graphical weather
> METAR colors on the map....which also isn't that huge of
> a deal. But, as long as it's $10, you may as well download
> it to play with.
>
>
> TrackLog
> Kind of cool. Similar to APRS and SPOT messenger, this can
> track you as you fly. I don't know how it works at high
> altitude when you're not in cell coverage though. But,
> some people seem to have luck with it. It's cheap enough
> to try out.
>
>
> PilotFAR
> Nice to have the regs on hand and searchable....no more
> buying that stinkin' book every year.
>
>
> Horizon
> An attitude indicator. Play only, but it's cheap, and
> something to show to your buds.
>
>
> NavClock
> If you want more out of a clock app, this one has some good
> weather info. I rarely use it.
>
>
> AeroWeather
> A pretty nice weather app that I've used in the past to
> just get a quick visual wind and weather check for local
> airports. Foreflight can take it's place though...but
> at least this one is cheap.
>
>
> FltPlan
> FlightPlan.com's app. The app itself isn't near as slick
> as some of the others, but, it does have some neat things
> like Bahamas airport info. I've only used it a couple times,
> mainly because their website flight planner gets good
> reviews. But, I haven't found anything groundbreaking
> about it.... for me, Foreflight and Voyager are my tools
> of choice. They do have some EAPIS tools I've read about
> a little that might be good if you do a lot of international
> flying, but I'm not sure how much of that is on the iphone app.
>
>
> FlightAware LiveTracking
> A cool little app for tracking your RV-10 buddies as they
> fly IFR.
>
>
> LiveATC
> Online ATC broadcasts from many airports. Fun to listen
> to when you're bored.
>
>
> RoqyBT
> A bluetooth stack you can put on an ipod touch (jailbroken)
> that allows you to use a bluetooth GPS with GPS integrated
> apps.
>
>
> Other apps non-aviation that I find pretty handy:
> Note: Starred apps require jailbreaking
>
> *MyWi
> *My3G
> *Overboard
>
> Around Me - This app is AWESOME for if you're traveling
> and you want to find things that are...well, Around you.
> Well worth checking out, and it's cheap.
>
> RedLaser - Never buy something in a store and kick
> yourself when you get home and find that the average
> price is 20% less again.
>
> AirMouse - Kind of cool for controlling your mouse on a PC
> attached to a big screen TV. Geek toy.
>
> Skype - Way cool if you're in the Bahamas and can't use
> your cell phone without spending a million bucks...just
> use the hotel's wi-fi and you can call home for cheap
> or free.
>
> iGo My Way GPS or Tom Tom GPS - You probably want one of
> these for when you travel. That way you'll have a full
> roadable GPS for your rental car. They're invaluable!
>
> TextNow - An unlimited texting app. If your kid texts
> a lot, save your cellphone bill and just make them use
> this app.
>
> SplashID - Here's a favorite of mine....carry all your
> passwords and website passwords with you every where you
> go...credit card numbers, bank account numbers, pilot
> certificate numbers, DUATS code and passwords, everything.
> It's all stored encrypted and you can get a desktop
> app to sync it to or enter data easier. I use it all
> the time and is one of my favorite apps.
>
>
> So there you go....that and a couple of web sites should
> give you much of what you'd ever want.
>
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
>
>
> Bill Schlatterer wrote:
>> >
>> OK, I spent an hour last night on Foreflight and bought the annual
>> package.
>> I love the route briefing and particularly the translated METARS.
>> I can
>> read the script but always have to think too hard about the Zulu
>> times. I
>> wonder if they will switch to the new PROG charts with the enhanced
>> graphics. I really like them a lot better than the standard stuff.
>> It is a better package than AOPA because it is specifically
>> designed for the
>> iPhone. It's cool being able to download charts, airport
>> directory, and
>> approachs/stars/sids etc and have them in your hand in the
>> airplane. Not as
>> nice to use as a full size chart but cool for reference or in a
>> pinch.
>> Thanks for the tip! Please post any other good iPhone aviation aps
>> that you
>> come across.
>> Bill S
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone |
Hey, nice tip. I saw it was updated yesterday but hadn't had a chance
to try it. The one thing I don't like is the download manager..it's
harder to know which low enroutes you need to cache unless you have
them written down from looking online. The IFR lows and TACs are a
big improvement but it's still a small subset of features of FF3.0
which I think is offers much more for the user. Skycharts is still
improving though, so over time maybe they'll add more. It's certainly
worth the small price to try it out. The Breadcrumbs feature might
appeal to some, and the METARs graphically on the chart are nice if
your're on the ground or in data service. Chart updates are free
until 2.0, so expect that as they add features the price may follow.
The competition is great! Still the #1 missing thing is a really good
moving map gps (non-sectional type) that can compete with a garmin
296. I'd pay $100 for that app if it came with database updates.
Maybe foreflight or skycharts will do it. Right now wingX is the only
one that seems to be close...and that isn't great since I find the
overall app kind of kludgy.
Tim
On Jan 1, 2010, at 8:15 AM, Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
wrote:
> >
>
> FYI, SkyCharts came out with an update yesterday, they now have IFR
> low enroute charts! I really like that app!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 31, 2009, at 9:02 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Here, I'll list some of the iphone apps for flying that I have
>> and a short comment about each...
>>
>> Foreflight Mobile 3.0
>> This is the app that everyone should have. It's awesome in
>> too many ways to list. Discount pricing for the rest of tonight.
>> Try filing a VFR flight plan for a route on it once, after
>> downloading the free demo. You'll be amazed at the email you
>> get back.
>>
>>
>> WingX
>> A many-featured app. Not utterly horrible, but so much less
>> user friendly than Foreflight that I would only recommend it
>> if you don't have a handheld or backup in-flight GPS moving
>> map. This app would serve fair, not perfect, from an in-flight
>> GPS perspective, and includes terrain. I wish I could pay
>> just 50% of the price, but ONLY get the nice moving map.
>> That would be an app I'd like. Or better yet, if Foreflight
>> would put in that type of moving map GPS function, I'm
>> sure they'd do a top notch job.
>>
>> Flight Control
>> It's just a game...but a fun one. :)
>>
>>
>> SkyCharts
>> Nice for a cheap, basically VFR only app, with the exception
>> that you can get approach plates but not nearly as handy
>> as the ones in Foreflight. And, you can get graphical weather
>> METAR colors on the map....which also isn't that huge of
>> a deal. But, as long as it's $10, you may as well download
>> it to play with.
>>
>>
>> TrackLog
>> Kind of cool. Similar to APRS and SPOT messenger, this can
>> track you as you fly. I don't know how it works at high
>> altitude when you're not in cell coverage though. But,
>> some people seem to have luck with it. It's cheap enough
>> to try out.
>>
>>
>> PilotFAR
>> Nice to have the regs on hand and searchable....no more
>> buying that stinkin' book every year.
>>
>>
>> Horizon
>> An attitude indicator. Play only, but it's cheap, and
>> something to show to your buds.
>>
>>
>> NavClock
>> If you want more out of a clock app, this one has some good
>> weather info. I rarely use it.
>>
>>
>> AeroWeather
>> A pretty nice weather app that I've used in the past to
>> just get a quick visual wind and weather check for local
>> airports. Foreflight can take it's place though...but
>> at least this one is cheap.
>>
>>
>> FltPlan
>> FlightPlan.com's app. The app itself isn't near as slick
>> as some of the others, but, it does have some neat things
>> like Bahamas airport info. I've only used it a couple times,
>> mainly because their website flight planner gets good
>> reviews. But, I haven't found anything groundbreaking
>> about it.... for me, Foreflight and Voyager are my tools
>> of choice. They do have some EAPIS tools I've read about
>> a little that might be good if you do a lot of international
>> flying, but I'm not sure how much of that is on the iphone app.
>>
>>
>> FlightAware LiveTracking
>> A cool little app for tracking your RV-10 buddies as they
>> fly IFR.
>>
>>
>> LiveATC
>> Online ATC broadcasts from many airports. Fun to listen
>> to when you're bored.
>>
>>
>> RoqyBT
>> A bluetooth stack you can put on an ipod touch (jailbroken)
>> that allows you to use a bluetooth GPS with GPS integrated
>> apps.
>>
>>
>>
>> Other apps non-aviation that I find pretty handy:
>> Note: Starred apps require jailbreaking
>>
>> *MyWi
>> *My3G
>> *Overboard
>>
>> Around Me - This app is AWESOME for if you're traveling
>> and you want to find things that are...well, Around you.
>> Well worth checking out, and it's cheap.
>>
>> RedLaser - Never buy something in a store and kick
>> yourself when you get home and find that the average
>> price is 20% less again.
>>
>> AirMouse - Kind of cool for controlling your mouse on a PC
>> attached to a big screen TV. Geek toy.
>>
>> Skype - Way cool if you're in the Bahamas and can't use
>> your cell phone without spending a million bucks...just
>> use the hotel's wi-fi and you can call home for cheap
>> or free.
>>
>> iGo My Way GPS or Tom Tom GPS - You probably want one of
>> these for when you travel. That way you'll have a full
>> roadable GPS for your rental car. They're invaluable!
>>
>> TextNow - An unlimited texting app. If your kid texts
>> a lot, save your cellphone bill and just make them use
>> this app.
>>
>> SplashID - Here's a favorite of mine....carry all your
>> passwords and website passwords with you every where you
>> go...credit card numbers, bank account numbers, pilot
>> certificate numbers, DUATS code and passwords, everything.
>> It's all stored encrypted and you can get a desktop
>> app to sync it to or enter data easier. I use it all
>> the time and is one of my favorite apps.
>>
>>
>> So there you go....that and a couple of web sites should
>> give you much of what you'd ever want.
>>
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>> Bill Schlatterer wrote:
>>> >
>>> OK, I spent an hour last night on Foreflight and bought the annual
>>> package.
>>> I love the route briefing and particularly the translated METARS.
>>> I can
>>> read the script but always have to think too hard about the Zulu
>>> times. I
>>> wonder if they will switch to the new PROG charts with the enhanced
>>> graphics. I really like them a lot better than the standard stuff.
>>> It is a better package than AOPA because it is specifically
>>> designed for the
>>> iPhone. It's cool being able to download charts, airport
>>> directory, and
>>> approachs/stars/sids etc and have them in your hand in the
>>> airplane. Not as
>>> nice to use as a full size chart but cool for reference or in a
>>> pinch.
>>> Thanks for the tip! Please post any other good iPhone aviation
>>> aps that you
>>> come across.
>>> Bill S
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone |
Correct, completely different frequencies and technologies. Also, Verizon and
AT&T use different frequencies for 3G so even though they are compatible, you
need to be sure the phone supports both. I don't believe the iPhone does so
you are stuck at 2G with some other carriers.
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
My current carrier is Sprint and I've been told that their network isn't
compatible with the iPhone (even unlocked).
Deems
Jesse Saint wrote:
>
> Or you could unlock one and put a SIM card from another carrier in it.
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> 352-427-0285
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 31, 2009, at 10:17 PM, Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> You guys are driving me crazy, and green w/ envy! I live in an area
>> that's not got any at&t coverage, I want an iphone (Foreflight
>> really) so bad it hurts! hopegully Google and Android will come to
>> the rescue soon.
>>
>> Deems
>>
>> Tim Olson wrote:
>>>
>>> Here, I'll list some of the iphone apps for flying that I have
>>> and a short comment about each...
>>>
>>> Foreflight Mobile 3.0
>>> This is the app that everyone should have. It's awesome in
>>> too many ways to list. Discount pricing for the rest of tonight.
>>> Try filing a VFR flight plan for a route on it once, after
>>> downloading the free demo. You'll be amazed at the email you
>>> get back.
>>>
>>>
>>> WingX
>>> A many-featured app. Not utterly horrible, but so much less
>>> user friendly than Foreflight that I would only recommend it
>>> if you don't have a handheld or backup in-flight GPS moving
>>> map. This app would serve fair, not perfect, from an in-flight
>>> GPS perspective, and includes terrain. I wish I could pay
>>> just 50% of the price, but ONLY get the nice moving map.
>>> That would be an app I'd like. Or better yet, if Foreflight
>>> would put in that type of moving map GPS function, I'm
>>> sure they'd do a top notch job.
>>>
>>> Flight Control
>>> It's just a game...but a fun one. :)
>>>
>>>
>>> SkyCharts
>>> Nice for a cheap, basically VFR only app, with the exception
>>> that you can get approach plates but not nearly as handy
>>> as the ones in Foreflight. And, you can get graphical weather
>>> METAR colors on the map....which also isn't that huge of
>>> a deal. But, as long as it's $10, you may as well download
>>> it to play with.
>>>
>>>
>>> TrackLog
>>> Kind of cool. Similar to APRS and SPOT messenger, this can
>>> track you as you fly. I don't know how it works at high
>>> altitude when you're not in cell coverage though. But,
>>> some people seem to have luck with it. It's cheap enough
>>> to try out.
>>>
>>>
>>> PilotFAR
>>> Nice to have the regs on hand and searchable....no more
>>> buying that stinkin' book every year.
>>>
>>>
>>> Horizon
>>> An attitude indicator. Play only, but it's cheap, and
>>> something to show to your buds.
>>>
>>>
>>> NavClock
>>> If you want more out of a clock app, this one has some good
>>> weather info. I rarely use it.
>>>
>>>
>>> AeroWeather
>>> A pretty nice weather app that I've used in the past to
>>> just get a quick visual wind and weather check for local
>>> airports. Foreflight can take it's place though...but
>>> at least this one is cheap.
>>>
>>>
>>> FltPlan
>>> FlightPlan.com's app. The app itself isn't near as slick
>>> as some of the others, but, it does have some neat things
>>> like Bahamas airport info. I've only used it a couple times,
>>> mainly because their website flight planner gets good
>>> reviews. But, I haven't found anything groundbreaking
>>> about it.... for me, Foreflight and Voyager are my tools
>>> of choice. They do have some EAPIS tools I've read about
>>> a little that might be good if you do a lot of international
>>> flying, but I'm not sure how much of that is on the iphone app.
>>>
>>>
>>> FlightAware LiveTracking
>>> A cool little app for tracking your RV-10 buddies as they
>>> fly IFR.
>>>
>>>
>>> LiveATC
>>> Online ATC broadcasts from many airports. Fun to listen
>>> to when you're bored.
>>>
>>>
>>> RoqyBT
>>> A bluetooth stack you can put on an ipod touch (jailbroken)
>>> that allows you to use a bluetooth GPS with GPS integrated
>>> apps.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Other apps non-aviation that I find pretty handy:
>>> Note: Starred apps require jailbreaking
>>>
>>> *MyWi
>>> *My3G
>>> *Overboard
>>>
>>> Around Me - This app is AWESOME for if you're traveling
>>> and you want to find things that are...well, Around you.
>>> Well worth checking out, and it's cheap.
>>>
>>> RedLaser - Never buy something in a store and kick
>>> yourself when you get home and find that the average
>>> price is 20% less again.
>>>
>>> AirMouse - Kind of cool for controlling your mouse on a PC
>>> attached to a big screen TV. Geek toy.
>>>
>>> Skype - Way cool if you're in the Bahamas and can't use
>>> your cell phone without spending a million bucks...just
>>> use the hotel's wi-fi and you can call home for cheap
>>> or free.
>>>
>>> iGo My Way GPS or Tom Tom GPS - You probably want one of
>>> these for when you travel. That way you'll have a full
>>> roadable GPS for your rental car. They're invaluable!
>>>
>>> TextNow - An unlimited texting app. If your kid texts
>>> a lot, save your cellphone bill and just make them use
>>> this app.
>>>
>>> SplashID - Here's a favorite of mine....carry all your
>>> passwords and website passwords with you every where you
>>> go...credit card numbers, bank account numbers, pilot
>>> certificate numbers, DUATS code and passwords, everything.
>>> It's all stored encrypted and you can get a desktop
>>> app to sync it to or enter data easier. I use it all
>>> the time and is one of my favorite apps.
>>>
>>>
>>> So there you go....that and a couple of web sites should
>>> give you much of what you'd ever want.
>>>
>>>
>>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>>> do not archive
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill Schlatterer wrote:
>>>> <billschlatterer@sbcglobal.net>
>>>>
>>>> OK, I spent an hour last night on Foreflight and bought the annual
>>>> package.
>>>> I love the route briefing and particularly the translated METARS.
>>>> I can
>>>> read the script but always have to think too hard about the Zulu
>>>> times. I
>>>> wonder if they will switch to the new PROG charts with the enhanced
>>>> graphics. I really like them a lot better than the standard stuff.
>>>>
>>>> It is a better package than AOPA because it is specifically
>>>> designed for the
>>>> iPhone. It's cool being able to download charts, airport
>>>> directory, and
>>>> approachs/stars/sids etc and have them in your hand in the
>>>> airplane. Not as
>>>> nice to use as a full size chart but cool for reference or in a pinch.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the tip! Please post any other good iPhone aviation aps
>>>> that you
>>>> come across.
>>>>
>>>> Bill S
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone |
I honestly think we are going to see the app market slowly shift to browser based
or something similar that is cross platform. The general consensus out there
is app developers are getting fed up with Apple and other approval systems
and the Android market will continue to grow. AT&T's issues may not kill the
iPhone market but it certainly leaves the door wide open for Android and others.
If Apple is lucky their exclusitivity agreement will run out before Android
catches up or an alternative App delivery system materializes. The only real
killer app for the iPhone is the App Store IMHO.
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
PS: I did see that the foreflight guys wrote the weather
app for the droid, and I'd assume that over time if they
see a market growing, they'll probably add much of the
foreflight mobile feature set.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
Deems Davis wrote:
>
> You guys are driving me crazy, and green w/ envy! I live in an area
> that's not got any at&t coverage, I want an iphone (Foreflight really)
> so bad it hurts! hopegully Google and Android will come to the rescue soon.
>
> Deems
>
> Tim Olson wrote:
>>
>> Here, I'll list some of the iphone apps for flying that I have
>> and a short comment about each...
>>
>> Foreflight Mobile 3.0
>> This is the app that everyone should have. It's awesome in
>> too many ways to list. Discount pricing for the rest of tonight.
>> Try filing a VFR flight plan for a route on it once, after
>> downloading the free demo. You'll be amazed at the email you
>> get back.
>>
>>
>> WingX
>> A many-featured app. Not utterly horrible, but so much less
>> user friendly than Foreflight that I would only recommend it
>> if you don't have a handheld or backup in-flight GPS moving
>> map. This app would serve fair, not perfect, from an in-flight
>> GPS perspective, and includes terrain. I wish I could pay
>> just 50% of the price, but ONLY get the nice moving map.
>> That would be an app I'd like. Or better yet, if Foreflight
>> would put in that type of moving map GPS function, I'm
>> sure they'd do a top notch job.
>>
>> Flight Control
>> It's just a game...but a fun one. :)
>>
>>
>> SkyCharts
>> Nice for a cheap, basically VFR only app, with the exception
>> that you can get approach plates but not nearly as handy
>> as the ones in Foreflight. And, you can get graphical weather
>> METAR colors on the map....which also isn't that huge of
>> a deal. But, as long as it's $10, you may as well download
>> it to play with.
>>
>>
>> TrackLog
>> Kind of cool. Similar to APRS and SPOT messenger, this can
>> track you as you fly. I don't know how it works at high
>> altitude when you're not in cell coverage though. But,
>> some people seem to have luck with it. It's cheap enough
>> to try out.
>>
>>
>> PilotFAR
>> Nice to have the regs on hand and searchable....no more
>> buying that stinkin' book every year.
>>
>>
>> Horizon
>> An attitude indicator. Play only, but it's cheap, and
>> something to show to your buds.
>>
>>
>> NavClock
>> If you want more out of a clock app, this one has some good
>> weather info. I rarely use it.
>>
>>
>> AeroWeather
>> A pretty nice weather app that I've used in the past to
>> just get a quick visual wind and weather check for local
>> airports. Foreflight can take it's place though...but
>> at least this one is cheap.
>>
>>
>> FltPlan
>> FlightPlan.com's app. The app itself isn't near as slick
>> as some of the others, but, it does have some neat things
>> like Bahamas airport info. I've only used it a couple times,
>> mainly because their website flight planner gets good
>> reviews. But, I haven't found anything groundbreaking
>> about it.... for me, Foreflight and Voyager are my tools
>> of choice. They do have some EAPIS tools I've read about
>> a little that might be good if you do a lot of international
>> flying, but I'm not sure how much of that is on the iphone app.
>>
>>
>> FlightAware LiveTracking
>> A cool little app for tracking your RV-10 buddies as they
>> fly IFR.
>>
>>
>> LiveATC
>> Online ATC broadcasts from many airports. Fun to listen
>> to when you're bored.
>>
>>
>> RoqyBT
>> A bluetooth stack you can put on an ipod touch (jailbroken)
>> that allows you to use a bluetooth GPS with GPS integrated
>> apps.
>>
>>
>>
>> Other apps non-aviation that I find pretty handy:
>> Note: Starred apps require jailbreaking
>>
>> *MyWi
>> *My3G
>> *Overboard
>>
>> Around Me - This app is AWESOME for if you're traveling
>> and you want to find things that are...well, Around you.
>> Well worth checking out, and it's cheap.
>>
>> RedLaser - Never buy something in a store and kick
>> yourself when you get home and find that the average
>> price is 20% less again.
>>
>> AirMouse - Kind of cool for controlling your mouse on a PC
>> attached to a big screen TV. Geek toy.
>>
>> Skype - Way cool if you're in the Bahamas and can't use
>> your cell phone without spending a million bucks...just
>> use the hotel's wi-fi and you can call home for cheap
>> or free.
>>
>> iGo My Way GPS or Tom Tom GPS - You probably want one of
>> these for when you travel. That way you'll have a full
>> roadable GPS for your rental car. They're invaluable!
>>
>> TextNow - An unlimited texting app. If your kid texts
>> a lot, save your cellphone bill and just make them use
>> this app.
>>
>> SplashID - Here's a favorite of mine....carry all your
>> passwords and website passwords with you every where you
>> go...credit card numbers, bank account numbers, pilot
>> certificate numbers, DUATS code and passwords, everything.
>> It's all stored encrypted and you can get a desktop
>> app to sync it to or enter data easier. I use it all
>> the time and is one of my favorite apps.
>>
>>
>> So there you go....that and a couple of web sites should
>> give you much of what you'd ever want.
>>
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>> Bill Schlatterer wrote:
>>> <billschlatterer@sbcglobal.net>
>>>
>>> OK, I spent an hour last night on Foreflight and bought the annual
>>> package.
>>> I love the route briefing and particularly the translated METARS. I can
>>> read the script but always have to think too hard about the Zulu
>>> times. I
>>> wonder if they will switch to the new PROG charts with the enhanced
>>> graphics. I really like them a lot better than the standard stuff.
>>>
>>> It is a better package than AOPA because it is specifically designed
>>> for the
>>> iPhone. It's cool being able to download charts, airport directory, and
>>> approachs/stars/sids etc and have them in your hand in the airplane.
>>> Not as
>>> nice to use as a full size chart but cool for reference or in a pinch.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the tip! Please post any other good iPhone aviation aps
>>> that you
>>> come across.
>>>
>>> Bill S
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | FW: Confirmed: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservation |
Check this reservation made as unknown individual. Note the $45 decrease in
price for same rental. The FBO is adjacent to the airport terminal.
-----Original Message-----
From: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservations
[mailto:onlinereservations@enterprise.com]
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 9:27 AM
Subject: Confirmed: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservation
Dear David McNeill,
Thank you for choosing Enterprise. We look forward to seeing you on
Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 10:00 am. If you didn't print your
confirmation when you reserved your car, please print this Email or record
your confirmation number. You may need it when you pick up your rental.
Your rental information is summarized below.
P.S. Remember us when you're renting in town. Enterprise is always nearby
at more than 6,500 neighborhood locations.
-----------------------
RESERVATION INFORMATION
-----------------------
Confirmation Number: R0PFDT
Name: McNeill, David
Pick Up Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 10:00 am
Drop Off Date: Monday, January 18, 2010 at 10:00 am
Rental Office Address and Phone Number:
CEDAR CITY AP IN TERM
2560 AVIATION WAY
CEDAR CITY, UT 84720-8327
Tel.: (435) 865-1435
Office Hours for the week of: January 11, 2010
Monday 8:30 am 6:00 pm
Tuesday 8:30 am 6:00 pm
Wednesday 8:30 am 6:00 pm
Thursday 8:30 am 6:00 pm
Friday 8:30 am 6:00 pm
Saturday 9:00 am Noon
Sunday CLOSED
Car and Rate Information:
Intermediate
Pontiac G5, Nissan Sentra, Toyota Corolla or similar
62.68 USD (2 Days @ 31.34)
1.34 USD (VEHICLE LICENSE FEE)
64.02 USD (Subtotal)
6.40 USD (AIRPORT ACCESS FEE)
6.06 USD (SALES TAX)
Total charges 76.48 USD
NOTE: Pricing does not include coverage.
-------------------------
ENTERPRISE PICK-UP POLICY
-------------------------
PICK-UP OR DELIVERY SERVICE IS AVAILABLE AT YOUR GENERAL AVIATION AIRPORT. -
AFTER BOOKING A RESERVATION PLEASE CALL THE LOCAL RENTAL OFFICE TO ARRANGE
FOR SHUTTLE SERVICE. - GEOGRAPHIC RESTRICTIONS MAY APPLY.
-------------------------
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-------------------------
MILEAGE IS UNLIMITED WHEN VEHICLE REMAINS IN THE RENTING STATE OR BORDERING
STATES INCLUDING CALIFORNIA. IF TRAVELING OUTSIDE OF THOSE STATES, MILEAGE
IS CHARGED AT 200 MILES FREE PER DAY, 1400 MILES PER WEEK, & 2500 MILES PER
MONTH, AND .20 FOR EACH ADDITIONAL MILE, FOR THE ENTIRE RENTAL.
---------------------
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---------------------
ALL DRIVERS MUST BE 21 YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER. RENTERS 21 THROUGH 24 YEARS OF
AGE MAY ONLY RENT ECONOMY THROUGH FULLSIZE CARS.
-----------------------------
ENTERPRISE AFTER HOURS POLICY
-----------------------------
PLEASE LOCK CAR DOORS AND THEN PLACE KEYS IN THE KEY DROP BOX. THE RENTER'S
RESPONSIBILITY FOR VEHICLE CONDITION ENDS ONCE AN ENTERPRISE-RENT-A-CAR
EMPLOYEE INSPECTS THE RENTAL VEHICLE THE NEXT BUSINESS DAY.
---------------------------
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---------------------------
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------------------------------------
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(Note: Modifying your location, date, or time may result in changes to your
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Heads UP. This is a reservation made with the EAA discount . Check my next
email.
-----Original Message-----
From: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservations
[mailto:onlinereservations@enterprise.com]
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 9:22 AM
Subject: Confirmed: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservation
Dear d mcnel,
Thank you for choosing Enterprise. We look forward to seeing you on
Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 10:00 am. If you didn't print your
confirmation when you reserved your car, please print this Email or record
your confirmation number. You may need it when you pick up your rental.
Your rental information is summarized below.
P.S. Remember us when you're renting in town. Enterprise is always nearby
at more than 6,500 neighborhood locations.
-----------------------
RESERVATION INFORMATION
-----------------------
Confirmation Number: R0PD9P
Name: mcnel, d
Pick Up Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 10:00 am
Drop Off Date: Monday, January 18, 2010 at 10:00 am
Car Provided by: Enterprise Rent-A-Car
Tel.: (435) 865-1435
Car Located at: Sphere One Av
Office Hours for the week of: January 11, 2010
Monday 8:30 am 6:00 pm
Tuesday 8:30 am 6:00 pm
Wednesday 8:30 am 6:00 pm
Thursday 8:30 am 6:00 pm
Friday 8:30 am 6:00 pm
Saturday 9:00 am Noon
Sunday CLOSED
Car and Rate Information for EAA - MEMBER BENEFIT NAT'L ACCT:
Intermediate
Pontiac G5, Nissan Sentra, Toyota Corolla or similar
93.00 USD (2 Days @ 46.50)
1.34 USD (VEHICLE LICENSE FEE)
94.34 USD (Subtotal)
9.43 USD (AIRPORT ACCESS FEE)
8.93 USD (SALES TAX)
Total charges 112.70 USD
NOTE: Pricing does not include coverage.
-------------------------
ENTERPRISE PICK-UP POLICY
-------------------------
PICK-UP OR DELIVERY SERVICE IS AVAILABLE AT YOUR GENERAL AVIATION AIRPORT. -
AFTER BOOKING A RESERVATION PLEASE CALL THE LOCAL RENTAL OFFICE TO ARRANGE
FOR SHUTTLE SERVICE. - GEOGRAPHIC RESTRICTIONS MAY APPLY.
-------------------------
ENTERPRISE MILEAGE POLICY
-------------------------
MILEAGE IS UNLIMITED WHEN VEHICLE REMAINS IN THE RENTING STATE. IF TRAVELING
OUTSIDE OF THE STATE, MILEAGE IS CHARGED AT 150 FREE MILES PER DAY AND .20
FOR EACH ADDITIONAL MILE, FOR THE ENTIRE RENTAL.
---------------------
ENTERPRISE AGE POLICY
---------------------
ALL DRIVERS MUST BE 21 YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER. RENTERS 21 THROUGH 24 YEARS OF
AGE MAY ONLY RENT ECONOMY THROUGH FULLSIZE CARS.
-----------------------------
ENTERPRISE AFTER HOURS POLICY
-----------------------------
PLEASE LOCK CAR DOORS AND THEN PLACE KEYS IN THE KEY DROP BOX. THE RENTER'S
RESPONSIBILITY FOR VEHICLE CONDITION ENDS ONCE AN ENTERPRISE-RENT-A-CAR
EMPLOYEE INSPECTS THE RENTAL VEHICLE THE NEXT BUSINESS DAY.
------------------------------------
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------------------------------------
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(Note: Modifying your location, date, or time may result in changes to your
rates, taxes, surcharges or underage fee).
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| Subject: | Re: Automotive Spark Plugs |
I talked to them at Sun n' Fun last April. What they told me was that
they were working on certification for the six cylinder P-Mag and
elected not to release an uncertified version until the certified
version is approved. They do plan on offering the uncertified version
as well as the certified one. I am happy with my Lightspeed/Mag
setup, but will definitely take a look at the 6 cyl. P-Mag when it is
released.
David Maib
40559
Flying
On Jan 1, 2010, at 9:00 AM, RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
I recall at least 3 OSH=92s now where I have heard =93soon=94. You
can
wait for the 6cyl pMag, which may or may not be as buggy as the
current and past models, or you can choose one of a couple others
that are fairly well proven and have had most of the bugs sprayed
with RAID.
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-
server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Froehlich
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 6:45 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Automotive Spark Plugs
Wait for the 6 cylinder pMag=85.
Carl Froehlich
Previous dual Lightspeed owner on my 8A (450 total hours with many
problems). I now run dual pMags on the 8A (100 trouble free hours so
far) and will put them on my RV-10.
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-
server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 6:17 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Automotive Spark Plugs
Robin,
We have used IO540-C4B5. We are running a Lightspeed Plasma III on
the left side and the original mag on the right side. I have the
automotive plugs in the top of the cylinders and the aircraft mag
plugs on the bottom. We start on the electronic ignition. RPM drop
on the mags only is much higher than the electronics only mode.
Waiting with plans to upgrade the right mag to a P-Mag or E-Mag if
they ever get them done for the 540 series. But may also end up just
installing a second Lightspeed when the mag finally give up.
Working well for us.
Jim C (N312F - Doing the first condition inspection now in a COLD
hanger!)
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As I have only had Dual Mags on now 9 different planes what do people
use
with one electronic and one Mag? Automotive plugs on the electronic and
Aviation plugs on the Mag?
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| Subject: | Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone |
If you are planning a trip from A-B, and using FF 3, will it 'automatically' download
the maps you need + approach plates etc, or do you have to manually download
the maps, plates etc. And then do you have to 'save' them also?? Happy
New Year to everyone. larry b
--------
Larry and Gayle N104LG
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| Subject: | Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone |
No, it doesn't automatically download them based on routes.
You can do that kind of thing with Voyager but not
Foreflight. The foreflight download manager works
on a state-by-state basis. So just look at your
route and choose to download all of the states along
the route. For Andrea's on the last trip I downloaded
Wisconsin, Iowa, Illinois, Kentucky, Missouri, Tennessee,
Alabama, Georgia, Florida. It might be handy to
download by route sometimes, but at the same time,
you don't always know where you'll divert to, so
from a practical perspective it's nice to have
that easily identifiable way to pick and choose the
region you want charts for. You get the same type
of selection for IFR Low, VFR Sectional, Approach plates,
and such. Then once you have your selections made,
you should only have to update every month as the
new cycle comes out, and it should be pretty
automatic.
So in Foreflight you probably go forth with more
information than you need. With Voyager I usually
download all airport information for every airport
within 75 miles of my route. But, on my last trip,
my actual route went more than 75 miles out.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
lbgjb10 wrote:
>
> If you are planning a trip from A-B, and using FF 3, will it
> 'automatically' download the maps you need + approach plates etc, or
> do you have to manually download the maps, plates etc. And then do
> you have to 'save' them also?? Happy New Year to everyone. larry b
>
> -------- Larry and Gayle N104LG
>
>
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>
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| Subject: | Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone |
It will not do it automatically. You have to sellect which features
you want caches for which states, but then they are cached until
deleted or replaced.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation
jesse@saintaviation.com
352-427-0285
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 1, 2010, at 12:17 PM, "lbgjb10" <lbgjb@gnt.net> wrote:
>
> If you are planning a trip from A-B, and using FF 3, will it
> 'automatically' download the maps you need + approach plates etc, or
> do you have to manually download the maps, plates etc. And then do
> you have to 'save' them also?? Happy New Year to everyone. larry b
>
> --------
> Larry and Gayle N104LG
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=279619#279619
>
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| Subject: | Re: FW: Confirmed: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservation |
If I understand this correctly... it was $76 cheaper renting AT the airport
????
Always ck both, because we found the exact opposite to be true.- In North
Vegas, also Enterprise, we saved by renting form them 3 mile from the airp
ort....and they still came and picked us up.- Who knows... I guess the mo
ral is ck both
Don McDonald
--- On Fri, 1/1/10, DLM <dlm34077@cox.net> wrote:
From: DLM <dlm34077@cox.net>
Subject: RV10-List: FW: Confirmed: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservation
-Check this reservation made as unknown individual. Note the $45 decrease
in price for same rental. The FBO is adjacent to the airport terminal.
-----Original Message-----
From: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservations [mailto:onlinereservations@enterpr
ise.com]
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 9:27 AM
Subject: Confirmed: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservation
Dear David McNeill,
Thank you for choosing Enterprise.- We look forward to seeing you on Satu
rday, January 16, 2010 at 10:00 am.- If you didn't print your confirmatio
n when you reserved your car, please print this Email or record your confir
mation number.- You may need it when you pick up your rental. Your rental
information is summarized below.
P.S. Remember us when you're renting in town.- Enterprise is always nearb
y at more than 6,500 neighborhood locations.
-----------------------
RESERVATION INFORMATION
-----------------------
Confirmation Number: R0PFDT
Name: McNeill, David
Pick Up Date:- Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 10:00 am
Drop Off Date:- Monday, January 18, 2010 at 10:00 am
Rental Office Address and Phone Number:
CEDAR CITY AP IN TERM
2560 AVIATION WAY
CEDAR CITY, UT 84720-8327
Tel.: (435) 865-1435
Office Hours for the week of: January 11, 2010
Monday------- 8:30 am--- 6:00 pm-----
Tuesday------ 8:30 am--- 6:00 pm-----
Wednesday---- 8:30 am--- 6:00 pm-----
Thursday----- 8:30 am--- 6:00 pm-----
Friday------- 8:30 am--- 6:00 pm-----
Saturday----- 9:00 am--- Noon-----
Sunday------- CLOSED---------
Car and Rate Information:
Intermediate
Pontiac G5, Nissan Sentra, Toyota Corolla or similar
--------------- 62.68 USD--- (2 Days @
31.34)
--------------
---------------- 1.34 USD---- (VEHI
CLE LICENSE FEE)
--------------
---------------- 64.02 USD--- (Subtot
al)
--------------
---------------- 6.40 USD---- (AIRP
ORT ACCESS FEE)
--------------
---------------- 6.06 USD---- (SALE
S TAX)
--------------
- Total charges- 76.48 USD--
-
NOTE: Pricing does not include coverage.
-------------------------
ENTERPRISE PICK-UP POLICY
-------------------------
PICK-UP OR DELIVERY SERVICE IS AVAILABLE AT YOUR GENERAL AVIATION AIRPORT.
- AFTER BOOKING A RESERVATION PLEASE CALL THE LOCAL RENTAL OFFICE TO ARRANG
E FOR SHUTTLE SERVICE. - GEOGRAPHIC RESTRICTIONS MAY APPLY.
-------------------------
ENTERPRISE MILEAGE POLICY
-------------------------
MILEAGE IS UNLIMITED WHEN VEHICLE REMAINS IN THE RENTING STATE OR BORDERING
STATES INCLUDING CALIFORNIA. IF TRAVELING OUTSIDE OF THOSE STATES, MILEAGE
IS CHARGED AT 200 MILES FREE PER DAY, 1400 MILES PER WEEK, & 2500 MILES PE
R MONTH, AND .20 FOR EACH ADDITIONAL MILE, FOR THE ENTIRE RENTAL.
---------------------
ENTERPRISE AGE POLICY
---------------------
ALL DRIVERS MUST BE 21 YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER. RENTERS 21 THROUGH 24 YEARS O
F AGE MAY ONLY RENT ECONOMY THROUGH FULLSIZE CARS.
-----------------------------
ENTERPRISE AFTER HOURS POLICY
-----------------------------
PLEASE LOCK CAR DOORS AND THEN PLACE KEYS IN THE KEY DROP BOX.- THE RENTE
R'S RESPONSIBILITY FOR VEHICLE CONDITION ENDS ONCE AN ENTERPRISE-RENT-A-CAR
EMPLOYEE INSPECTS THE RENTAL VEHICLE THE NEXT BUSINESS DAY.-
---------------------------
TO MAKE ANOTHER RESERVATION
---------------------------
If you would like to make another online reservation or need additional inf
ormation, please visit us again at:
http://www.enterprise.com
------------------------------------
TO MODIFY OR CANCEL THIS RESERVATION
------------------------------------
Please click the link below to modify or cancel this reservation.
(Note: Modifying your location, date, or time may result in changes to your
rates, taxes, surcharges or underage fee).
https://www.enterprise.com/car_rental/deeplinkmap.do?bid=001&confirmnum
=R0PFDT&lastname=McNeill&cnty=US&language=EN
=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Grommet supplier |
I have been searching through the normal places for the grommet type thing Ed Hayden
used to get the 3 light speed ignition wires through the baffling to get
under the plenum. The picture attached is from Deems website, and shows the part
I am looking for.
Eric Kallio
N518RV wiring and panel installation
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=279632#279632
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| Subject: | FW: Confirmed: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservation |
The difference was $45; enough for a night in the heated hangar. The irony
is that stating that you are EAA member gets a 50% increase in price.
The key seems to be if the FBO is getting a cut of the rental. At CDC, FBO
and terminal are 100 or so feet apart. I found one in So Cal where the
nearby off airport site was considerably cheaper than anything on the
airport including a pick up at the FBO of an enterprise car. The nearby off
airport sites usually will pick and allow drop at the airport. Always carry
a copy of the confirming email with you.
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don McDonald
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: FW: Confirmed: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservation
If I understand this correctly... it was $76 cheaper renting AT the
airport????
Always ck both, because we found the exact opposite to be true. In North
Vegas, also Enterprise, we saved by renting form them 3 mile from the
airport....and they still came and picked us up. Who knows... I guess the
moral is ck both
Don McDonald
--- On Fri, 1/1/10, DLM <dlm34077@cox.net> wrote:
From: DLM <dlm34077@cox.net>
Subject: RV10-List: FW: Confirmed: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservation
Check this reservation made as unknown individual. Note the $45 decrease in
price for same rental. The FBO is adjacent to the airport terminal.
-----Original Message-----
From: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservations [
<mailto:onlinereservations@enterprise.com>
mailto:onlinereservations@enterprise.com]
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 9:27 AM
Subject: Confirmed: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservation
Dear David McNeill,
Thank you for choosing Enterprise. We look forward to seeing you on
Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 10:00 am. If you didn't print your
confirmation when you reserved your car, please print this Email or record
your confirmation number. You may need it when you pick up your rental.
Your rental information is summarized below.
P.S. Remember us when you're renting in town. Enterprise is always nearby
at more than 6,500 neighborhood locations.
-----------------------
RESERVATION INFORMATION
-----------------------
Confirmation Number: R0PFDT
Name: McNeill, David
Pick Up Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 10:00 am
Drop Off Date: Monday, January 18, 2010 at 10:00 am
Rental Office Address and Phone Number:
CEDAR CITY AP IN TERM
2560 AVIATION WAY
CEDAR CITY, UT 84720-8327
Tel.: (435) 865-1435
Office Hours for the week of: January 11, 2010
Monday 8:30 am 6:00 pm
Tuesday 8:30 am 6:00 pm
Wednesday 8:30 am 6:00 pm
Thursday 8:30 am 6:00 pm
Friday 8:30 am 6:00 pm
Saturday 9:00 am Noon
Sunday CLOSED
Car and Rate Information:
Intermediate
Pontiac G5, Nissan Sentra, Toyota Corolla or similar
62.68 USD (2 Days @ 31.34)
1.34 USD (VEHICLE LICENSE FEE)
64.02 USD (Subtotal)
6.40 USD (AIRPORT ACCESS FEE)
6.06 USD (SALES TAX)
Total charges 76.48 USD
NOTE: Pricing does not include coverage.
-------------------------
ENTERPRISE PICK-UP POLICY
-------------------------
PICK-UP OR DELIVERY SERVICE IS AVAILABLE AT YOUR GENERAL AVIATION AIRPORT. -
AFTER BOOKING A RESERVATION PLEASE CALL THE LOCAL RENTAL OFFICE TO ARRANGE
FOR SHUTTLE SERVICE. - GEOGRAPHIC RESTRICTIONS MAY APPLY.
-------------------------
ENTERPRISE MILEAGE POLICY
-------------------------
MILEAGE IS UNLIMITED WHEN VEHICLE REMAINS IN THE RENTING STATE OR BORDERING
STATES INCLUDING CALIFORNIA. IF TRAVELING OUTSIDE OF THOSE STATES, MILEAGE
IS CHARGED AT 200 MILES FREE PER DAY, 1400 MILES PER WEEK, & 2500 MILES PER
MONTH, AND .20 FOR EACH ADDITIONAL MILE, FOR THE ENTIRE RENTAL.
---------------------
ENTERPRISE AGE POLICY
---------------------
ALL DRIVERS MUST BE 21 YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER. RENTERS 21 THROUGH 24 YEARS OF
AGE MAY ONLY RENT ECONOMY THROUGH FULLSIZE CARS.
-----------------------------
ENTERPRISE AFTER HOURS POLICY
-----------------------------
PLEASE LOCK CAR DOORS AND THEN PLACE KEYS IN THE KEY DROP BOX. THE RENTER'S
RESPONSIBILITY FOR VEHICLE CONDITION ENDS ONCE AN ENTERPRISE-RENT-A-CAR
EMPLOYEE INSPECTS THE RENTAL VEHICLE THE NEXT BUSINESS DAY.
---------------------------
TO MAKE ANOTHER RESERVATION
---------------------------
If you would like to make another online reservation or need additional
information, please visit us again at:
<http://www.enterprise.com/> http://www.enterprise.com
------------------------------------
TO MODIFY OR CANCEL THIS RESERVATION
------------------------------------
Please click the link below to modify or cancel this reservation.
(Note: Modifying your location, date, or time may result in changes to your
rates, taxes, surcharges or underage fee).
<https://www.enterprise.com/car_rental/deeplinkmap.do?bid=001&confirmnum=R0P
FDT&lastname=McNeill&cnty=US&language=EN>
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| Subject: | Re: Grommet supplier |
Page 280 of the AA catalog has a lousy picture so I don't know if it's
the same type.
Linn
Eric_Kallio wrote:
>
> I have been searching through the normal places for the grommet type thing Ed
Hayden used to get the 3 light speed ignition wires through the baffling to get
under the plenum. The picture attached is from Deems website, and shows the
part I am looking for.
>
> Eric Kallio
> N518RV wiring and panel installation
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=279632#279632
>
>
> Attachments:
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> http://forums.matronics.com//files/ignition_wire_pass_through_662.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: Grommet supplier |
Eric
That's a ignition wire grommet available from Spruce under engine ignition accessories
Rick S.
------Original Message------
From: Eric_Kallio
Sender: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
ReplyTo: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Jan 1, 2010 11:35 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Grommet supplier
I have been searching through the normal places for the grommet type thing Ed Hayden
used to get the 3 light speed ignition wires through the baffling to get
under the plenum. The picture attached is from Deems website, and shows the part
I am looking for.
Eric Kallio
N518RV wiring and panel installation
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=279632#279632
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/ignition_wire_pass_through_662.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone |
Tim, is there any app like FF3 that will allow you to print out the
information to a wireless printer? It would be nice to be able to print a
hard copy of a few of the approach plates occasionally and a piece of an
enroute chart. Is that something that will ever or never happen with the
iPhone?
I love this thing,... And FF3!!
Bill S
7a stilllll finishing - 32 degrees in the hanger tomorrow :-(
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
It will not do it automatically. You have to sellect which features you
want caches for which states, but then they are cached until deleted or
replaced.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation
jesse@saintaviation.com
352-427-0285
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 1, 2010, at 12:17 PM, "lbgjb10" <lbgjb@gnt.net> wrote:
>
> If you are planning a trip from A-B, and using FF 3, will it
> 'automatically' download the maps you need + approach plates etc, or
> do you have to manually download the maps, plates etc. And then do
> you have to 'save' them also?? Happy New Year to everyone. larry b
>
> --------
> Larry and Gayle N104LG
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=279619#279619
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone |
That's a tough one. I think maybe there are some hacks out there
to print from an iphone, (maybe), but I don't know for sure.
Your best bet for the approach plates would be to just look them
up online using AOPA or AirNav, or anything else, and then print
them I guess. I use Voyager for that, just because it creates a
PDF pack with all your route and Wx information and approaches and
things like that, and you can print selected parts then to paper.
I've never seen anything that does a good job printing a piece of
an enroute chart though.
My thoughts are, if you need that stuff bigger, the best bet is
to use something like a Tablet PC like I've been using for tracking
myself over enroute charts. Then you get the big screen. Electronic
is such a nice way to go, but I understand why with the iphone's
smaller screen it wouldn't be ideal....it's nice having a tablet
along for those times.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
Bill Schlatterer wrote:
>
> Tim, is there any app like FF3 that will allow you to print out the
> information to a wireless printer? It would be nice to be able to print a
> hard copy of a few of the approach plates occasionally and a piece of an
> enroute chart. Is that something that will ever or never happen with the
> iPhone?
>
> I love this thing,... And FF3!!
>
> Bill S
> 7a stilllll finishing - 32 degrees in the hanger tomorrow :-(
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 12:28 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
>
>
> It will not do it automatically. You have to sellect which features you
> want caches for which states, but then they are cached until deleted or
> replaced.
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> 352-427-0285
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 1, 2010, at 12:17 PM, "lbgjb10" <lbgjb@gnt.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> If you are planning a trip from A-B, and using FF 3, will it
>> 'automatically' download the maps you need + approach plates etc, or
>> do you have to manually download the maps, plates etc. And then do
>> you have to 'save' them also?? Happy New Year to everyone. larry b
>>
>> --------
>> Larry and Gayle N104LG
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=279619#279619
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron Counterbalance Holes |
I took a file that has a curve on one side that matches the curvature of
the I.D. of the tube and slid it into the aileron counterbalance tube, th
en just slid the file back and forth until the burrs were off.
Steve Weinstock
40230
-----Original Message-----
From: Shawn Moon <moons1999@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wed, Dec 30, 2009 2:07 pm
Subject: RV10-List: Aileron Counterbalance Holes
For all of those who when the slow build route on the wings, how did you
deburr the A-1009 aileron counterbalance holes? For the life of me I can
't figure out a good way to do it. I'm sure it needs to be done as the st
ainless steel will eat away at the rivets pretty quickly. Ideas?
--Shawn
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| Subject: | Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone |
I think you can print from Air Sharing Pro, or at least think I
remember reading that. If so, then it's doable from the iP. I always
just print from my computer. There is a way to download a chart &
print it, but you have to buy it. I did it once, but a 8.5x11 sheet
didn't seem very useful for a chart, at least to me.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation
jesse@saintaviation.com
352-427-0285
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 2, 2010, at 12:35 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
>
> That's a tough one. I think maybe there are some hacks out there
> to print from an iphone, (maybe), but I don't know for sure.
> Your best bet for the approach plates would be to just look them
> up online using AOPA or AirNav, or anything else, and then print
> them I guess. I use Voyager for that, just because it creates a
> PDF pack with all your route and Wx information and approaches and
> things like that, and you can print selected parts then to paper.
> I've never seen anything that does a good job printing a piece of
> an enroute chart though.
>
> My thoughts are, if you need that stuff bigger, the best bet is
> to use something like a Tablet PC like I've been using for tracking
> myself over enroute charts. Then you get the big screen. Electronic
> is such a nice way to go, but I understand why with the iphone's
> smaller screen it wouldn't be ideal....it's nice having a tablet
> along for those times.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>
>
> Bill Schlatterer wrote:
>> >
>> Tim, is there any app like FF3 that will allow you to print out the
>> information to a wireless printer? It would be nice to be able to
>> print a
>> hard copy of a few of the approach plates occasionally and a piece
>> of an
>> enroute chart. Is that something that will ever or never happen
>> with the
>> iPhone?
>> I love this thing,... And FF3!!
>> Bill S
>> 7a stilllll finishing - 32 degrees in the hanger tomorrow :-(
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse
>> Saint
>> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 12:28 PM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone
>> <jesse@saintaviation.com>
>> It will not do it automatically. You have to sellect which
>> features you
>> want caches for which states, but then they are cached until
>> deleted or
>> replaced.
>> Jesse Saint
>> Saint Aviation
>> jesse@saintaviation.com
>> 352-427-0285
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Jan 1, 2010, at 12:17 PM, "lbgjb10" <lbgjb@gnt.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> If you are planning a trip from A-B, and using FF 3, will it
>>> 'automatically' download the maps you need + approach plates etc,
>>> or do you have to manually download the maps, plates etc. And
>>> then do you have to 'save' them also?? Happy New Year to
>>> everyone. larry b
>>>
>>> --------
>>> Larry and Gayle N104LG
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=279619#279619
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
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A month ago, I flew over to another airport and I picked up an ex relative, her
daughter, and her neighbor and took them for a short ride. After I got home
I added up the total of the passengers age, including me.... 300.... and I was
the youngest. Anyone top that?
Happy New Year Everyone.... you to Rick and John!
Don McDonald
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Don A. McDonald
40636
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| Subject: | Official RV10-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) |
Dear Listers,
Please read over the RV10-List Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) below. The
complete RV10-List FAQ including the Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/RV10-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
[ Note: This FAQ was designed to be displayed with a fixed width font such as
Courier. Proportional fonts will cause display formatting errors. ]
This FAQ can also be viewed in HTML online at the following address:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm
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******* LIST POLICIES AND FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS *******
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PLEASE READ. This document contains RV10-List policies and information
for new and old subscribers. Understanding the RV10-List policies will
minimize problems for the Administrator, and will help keep the RV10-List
running smoothly for all of us.
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*** Quick Start Guide to List Features ***
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There are many features available on the Matronics Email Lists and each
one is described in detailed below. However, using the List Navigator
you can quickly access the complete set of features available for this
List. The List Navigator can be found at the following URL:
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*** How to Subscribe and Unsubscribe ***
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Simply go to the Web Page shown below and enter your email address and
select the List(s) that you wish to subscribe or unsubscribed from. You
may also use the handy "Find" function to determine the exact syntax of
your email address as it is subscribed to the List. Please see the
complete instructions at the top of the Web Page for more information.
The Subscribe/Unsubscribe web page is:
http://www.matronics.com/subscribe
Note that you will receive TWO conformation emails regarding your subsciption
process. The first verifies that your subscription/unsubsciption request
was received, and the second confirms that the process has been completed.
You should receive the first email within a few minutes of your request.
The second conformation will arrive in less than 24 hours. You cannot post
until you receive the second conformation email message.
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Send an email message to:
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Your message will be redistributed to everyone currently subscribed
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*** SPAM Fighter - You Must be Subscribed to Post ***
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When a new post is received by the system, the From: line of the message
is checked and compared against the current subscription list. If the
email address is found, the message is passed on to the List Processor.
If the email address isn't found in the current list of subscribers, it
is dumped. This serves to very effectively thwart 99% of the SPAM that
gets posted to the Lists.
Remember, however, that the syntax of your email address is very important
with regard to the configuration of your email application such as Outlook
or Eudora. For example, the following two email addresses may be
functionally equivalent, but only one would pass the Matronics Email SPAM
test depending on which was syntax was subscribed to the given List:
smith@machine.domain.com
smith@domain.com
Either email address syntax is alright, just be sure that you configure
your email application to match *exactly* the address you've subscibed to
the List.
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*** Enclosure Support on the Lists ***
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Limited posting of enclosures such as pictures, documents, and spreadsheets
is supported on the Lists. There are a number of restrictions, and these
are detailed below. Please abide by the rules put forth regarding the
content of enclosures.
These are some of the features and limits of enclosures on the Matronics
Lists:
1) Enclosures will only be posted to the Real Time version of the Lists.
2) Enclosures will NOT be included in the Daily Digest version of the Lists.
3) Enclosures WILL BE forwarded on to the BBS Forum Web site.
4) Enclosures will NOT be appended to the Archives.
5) Enclosures will NOT be available in the List Browse feature.
6) Only the following file types and extensions will be allowed:
bmp doc dwg dxf gif jpg pdf png txt xls
All other enclosures types will be rejected and email returned to
sender. The enclosure types listed above are relatively safe from
a virus standpoint and don't pose a particularly large security risk.
7) !! All incoming enclosures will be scanned for viruses prior to posting
to the List. This is done in real time and will not slow down
the process of posting the message !!
Here are some rules for posting enclosures. Failure to abide by these rules
could result in the removal of a subscriber's email address from the Lists.
1) Pay attention to what you are posting!! Make sure that the files
you are enclosing aren't HUGE (greater that 1MB). Remember that there
are still people checking they're email via dial up modem. If you post
30MB worth of pictures, you are placing an unnecessary burden on these
folks and the rest of us, for that matter.
2) SCALE YOUR PICTURES DOWN!!! I don't want to see huge 3000 x 2000
pictures getting posted that are 3 or 4MB each. This is just
unacceptable. Use a program such as Photoshop to scale the picture
down to something on the order of 800 x 600 and try to keep the
file size to less-than 200KB, preferably much less.
Microsoft has a really awesome utility available for free that allows
you to Right-Click on a picture in Explorer and automatically
scale it down and resave it. This is a great utility - get it, use it!
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx
Look for the link "Image Resizer"
3) !! This would seem to go without saying, but I'll say it anyway. Do not
post anything that would be considered offensive by your grandmother.
And you know what I'm saying; I don't want to see anything even
questionable. !!
4) REMEMBER THIS: If you post a 1MB enclosure to a List with 1000 members
subscribed, your 1MB enclosure must be resent 1000 times amounting
to 1MB X 1000 = 1 Gigabyte of network traffic!! BE CAREFUL and
BE COURTEOUS!
Also see the section below on the Matronics Photo and File Share where
you can have your files and photos posted on the Matronics web server
for long time viewing and availability.
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*** Digest Mode ***
*******************
Each day, starting at 12 midnight PST US, a new 'digest' will be started.
This digest will contain the same information that is currently appended
to the archive file. It has all of the headers except for the "From:"
and "Subject:" lines removed, and includes a message separator consisting
of a line of underscores.
Each day at 23:55 PST US, the day's messages as described above will be
combined and sent as a single message to everyone on the digest email list.
To subscribe to the digest list, use the same subscription web form
described above, and just select the Digest version of the List.
http://www.matronics.com/subscribe
Note that you *can* be subscribed to both the realtime and digest versions
of the List at the same time. This is perfectly acceptable.
Now some caveats:
* Messages sent to "rv10-list-digest" will be forwarded to the standard
email list. In other words, you cannot post messages only to the
digest List.
* If you are subscribed to both the regular List and the digest List, you
will receive the realtime postings as well as the digest at the end of
the day.
* If you reply to the digest email, your message will be forwarded to the
normal list associated with the digest. Important Note: Please change
the subject line to reflect the topic of your response! Also, please
*do not include all or most of the digest in your reply*.
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*** List Digest Browser ***
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or HTML format. These archives contain the exact Digest that was posted to
the Digest email list on the given day. The Digest Archives can be found
at the following location:
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*** The "DO NOT ARCHIVE" Message Flag ***
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email, mailbox is filled, or any other errors, your address will be promptly
removed from the List. If you discover that you are no longer receiving
messages from the RV10-List, go to the following Web page, and look
for your email address and a possible reason for your removal.
The Matronics Email List uses utility called the "Email Weasel" that
automatically looks though the day's bounced email for addresses that
caused problems due to common things like "user is unknown", "mailbox
full", etc. If the Email Weasel removes your email address from the
Lists you will find record of it at the following URL:
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If you have not done so already, please email me your phone numbers and
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Please forward this information to the following email address:
requests@matronics.com
I have a file of such things, that I typically use to contact you when
there are problems with your email address. The information will NOT
be used for any other commercial purpose.
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*** Realtime Web Email List Browsing ***
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Recent messages posted to the RV10-List are also made available on
the Web for realtime browsing. Seven days worth of back postings are
available with this feature. The messages can be sorted by Subject,
Author, Date, or Message Thread. The Realtime List Browser indexes are
updated twice per hour at xx:15 and xx:45. You can also reply to a message
or start a new message directly from the List Browser Interface (coming soon).
You do not have to be subscribed to the given list to use the List
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content. The Forums contain all of the same content available via the email
distribution and found on the various archive viewing formats such as the
List Browse, etc. Any posts on the web Forums will be cross posted to the
respective email List, and posts to the Email List will be cross posted to
the web Forums.
You may view all List content on the Forums without any special login.
If you wish to post a message via the Web Forum interface, however, you
will need to Register. This is a simple process that takes only a few
minutes. A link to the Registration page can be found at the top of the
main web Forums page. Note that registering on the Forum web site also
enables you to send email posts to the Lists as well. You will also need to
Subscribe to the respective Email List as described above to receive the
Email Distribution of the List, however.
The Matroincs Email List Web BBS Forums can be found at the following URL:
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In an attempt to make it easy to store and find structured and often accessed
information, Matronics has installed a Wiki at:
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The Wiki allows individuals to create web pages to contain useful information
for other users of the mailing lists and web site. Unlike an ordinary web page
where the content needs to be submitted to Matronics for inclusion, the Wiki
permits the users to construct their own pages and have them visible immediately.
While constructing pages for the Wiki is not difficult, some may not be
comfortable building pages. In that case, simply prepare the text and any
images and email it to:
wiki-support@matronics.com
One of the volunteers on that list will take your submission and construct
a Wiki page for you.
Often someone produces a particularly useful posting in email one one of the
Lists that would be of general interest. In that case Matronics may take that
post and convert it into a Wiki page.
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*** List Archives ***
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A file containing of all of the previous postings to the RV10-List is
available on line. The archive file information is available via the
Web and FTP in a number of forms. Each are briefly described below:
* RV10-List.FAQ
- Latest version of the RV10-List Frequently Asked Question
page (this document).
* RV10-Archive.digest.complete
- Complete file with most of the email header info removed and
page breaks inserted between messages.
* RV10-Archive.digest.vol-??
- Same as the file above, but broken up into small sections that
can more easily handled.
* RV10-Archive.digest.complete.zip
- Same as the RV10-Archive.digest.complete file above, but
in PKZIP format. Use "binary" data transfer methods.
* RV10-Archive.digest.complete.Z
- Same as the RV10-Archive.digest.complete file above, but in
UNIX compress format. Use "binary" data transfer methods.
Download Via FTP
----------------
The archive file is available via anonymous FTP from ftp.matronics.com
in the "/pub/Archives" directory. It is updated daily and can be found in
a number of formats as described above. (All filenames are case sensitive.)
ftp://ftp.matronics.com/pub/Archives
Download Via Web
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The archives are also available via a web listing. These can be found
toward the bottom of the following web page:
http://www.matronics.com/archives
******************************************
*** Complete List Web Archive Browsing ***
******************************************
All messages posted to the RV10-List are also available using the
Email List Archive Browsing feature. With this utility, all messages
in the List are indexed, and individual sub-archives can be browsed.
http://www.matronics.com/archive/archive-index.cgi?RV10
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**** High-Speed Archive Search Engine ***
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You can use the custom, high-performance Matronics Email List Search Engine
to quickly locate and browse any messages that have been posted to the
List. The Engine allows the user to easily search any of the currently
available List archives.
http://www.matronics.com/search
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*** File and Photo Share ***
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With the Matronics Email List File and Photo Share you can share pictures
and other data with members of the List without having to forward a
copy of it to everyone. To share your Files and Photos, simply email
them to:
pictures@matronics.com
!! ==> Please including the following information with each submission:
1) Email Lists that they are related to.
2) Your Full Name.
3) Your Email Address.
4) One line Subject description.
5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic.
6-x) One-line Description of each photo or file
Prior to public availability of the files and photos, each will be scanned
for viruses. Please also note that the process of making the files and
photos available on the web site is a pseudo-manual process, and I try to
process them every few days.
Following the availability of the new Photoshare, an email message will be
sent to the Email Lists enumerated in 1) above indicating that the new
Share is available and what the direct URL to it is.
For a current list of available Photoshares, have a look at the Main
Index Page:
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
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A complete Matronics Email List Archive CD is available that contains
all of the archives since the beginning of each of the Lists. The archives
for all of the Lists are included on the CD along with a freeware search
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and will contain archive received up to the last minute. They make
great gifts!
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The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the RV10-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the RV10-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
RV10-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the RV10-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
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among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals
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responses.
- Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address,
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about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid
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- DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the
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- If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the archive.
- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
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- When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
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| Subject: | Official RV10-List Usage Guidelines |
Dear Listers,
Please read over the RV10-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
RV10-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/RV10-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
******************************************************************************
RV10-List Usage Guidelines
******************************************************************************
The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the RV10-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the RV10-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
RV10-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the RV10-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals
requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of
the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
- Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit
posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
- THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be
relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
- Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and
terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
responses.
- Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address,
aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line
about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid
bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
space in the archive.
- DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the
web page or FAQ first.
- If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the archive.
- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!
- When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
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