---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 01/01/10: 26 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:46 AM - Re: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone (Jesse Saint) 2. 06:04 AM - Re: Re: Automotive Spark Plugs (RV Builder (Michael Sausen)) 3. 06:25 AM - Re: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone (Deems Davis) 4. 06:49 AM - Re: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone (Michael Kraus) 5. 08:04 AM - Re: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone (Tim Olson) 6. 08:06 AM - Re: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone (RV Builder (Michael Sausen)) 7. 08:08 AM - Re: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone (RV Builder (Michael Sausen)) 8. 08:51 AM - FW: Confirmed: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservation (DLM) 9. 08:51 AM - FW: Confirmed: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservation (DLM) 10. 09:08 AM - car rental discounts (DLM) 11. 09:10 AM - Re: Re: Automotive Spark Plugs (David Maib) 12. 09:20 AM - Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone (lbgjb10) 13. 10:49 AM - Re: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone (Tim Olson) 14. 11:04 AM - Re: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone (Jesse Saint) 15. 11:05 AM - Re: FW: Confirmed: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservation (Don McDonald) 16. 11:36 AM - Grommet supplier (Eric_Kallio) 17. 12:07 PM - Re: FW: Confirmed: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservation (DLM) 18. 12:59 PM - Re: Grommet supplier (Linn Walters) 19. 01:03 PM - Re: Grommet supplier (ricksked@cox.net) 20. 09:10 PM - Re: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone (Bill Schlatterer) 21. 09:36 PM - Re: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone (Tim Olson) 22. 09:56 PM - Re: Aileron Counterbalance Holes (efdsteve@AOL.COM) 23. 09:58 PM - Re: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone (Jesse Saint) 24. 10:27 PM - Total Age (partner14) 25. 11:05 PM - Official RV10-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) (Matt Dralle) 26. 11:13 PM - Official RV10-List Usage Guidelines (Matt Dralle) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:46:57 AM PST US From: Jesse Saint Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone Or you could unlock one and put a SIM card from another carrier in it. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation jesse@saintaviation.com 352-427-0285 Sent from my iPhone On Dec 31, 2009, at 10:17 PM, Deems Davis wrote: > > You guys are driving me crazy, and green w/ envy! I live in an area > that's not got any at&t coverage, I want an iphone (Foreflight > really) so bad it hurts! hopegully Google and Android will come to > the rescue soon. > > Deems > > Tim Olson wrote: >> >> Here, I'll list some of the iphone apps for flying that I have >> and a short comment about each... >> >> Foreflight Mobile 3.0 >> This is the app that everyone should have. It's awesome in >> too many ways to list. Discount pricing for the rest of tonight. >> Try filing a VFR flight plan for a route on it once, after >> downloading the free demo. You'll be amazed at the email you >> get back. >> >> >> WingX >> A many-featured app. Not utterly horrible, but so much less >> user friendly than Foreflight that I would only recommend it >> if you don't have a handheld or backup in-flight GPS moving >> map. This app would serve fair, not perfect, from an in-flight >> GPS perspective, and includes terrain. I wish I could pay >> just 50% of the price, but ONLY get the nice moving map. >> That would be an app I'd like. Or better yet, if Foreflight >> would put in that type of moving map GPS function, I'm >> sure they'd do a top notch job. >> >> Flight Control >> It's just a game...but a fun one. :) >> >> >> SkyCharts >> Nice for a cheap, basically VFR only app, with the exception >> that you can get approach plates but not nearly as handy >> as the ones in Foreflight. And, you can get graphical weather >> METAR colors on the map....which also isn't that huge of >> a deal. But, as long as it's $10, you may as well download >> it to play with. >> >> >> TrackLog >> Kind of cool. Similar to APRS and SPOT messenger, this can >> track you as you fly. I don't know how it works at high >> altitude when you're not in cell coverage though. But, >> some people seem to have luck with it. It's cheap enough >> to try out. >> >> >> PilotFAR >> Nice to have the regs on hand and searchable....no more >> buying that stinkin' book every year. >> >> >> Horizon >> An attitude indicator. Play only, but it's cheap, and >> something to show to your buds. >> >> >> NavClock >> If you want more out of a clock app, this one has some good >> weather info. I rarely use it. >> >> >> AeroWeather >> A pretty nice weather app that I've used in the past to >> just get a quick visual wind and weather check for local >> airports. Foreflight can take it's place though...but >> at least this one is cheap. >> >> >> FltPlan >> FlightPlan.com's app. The app itself isn't near as slick >> as some of the others, but, it does have some neat things >> like Bahamas airport info. I've only used it a couple times, >> mainly because their website flight planner gets good >> reviews. But, I haven't found anything groundbreaking >> about it.... for me, Foreflight and Voyager are my tools >> of choice. They do have some EAPIS tools I've read about >> a little that might be good if you do a lot of international >> flying, but I'm not sure how much of that is on the iphone app. >> >> >> FlightAware LiveTracking >> A cool little app for tracking your RV-10 buddies as they >> fly IFR. >> >> >> LiveATC >> Online ATC broadcasts from many airports. Fun to listen >> to when you're bored. >> >> >> RoqyBT >> A bluetooth stack you can put on an ipod touch (jailbroken) >> that allows you to use a bluetooth GPS with GPS integrated >> apps. >> >> >> >> Other apps non-aviation that I find pretty handy: >> Note: Starred apps require jailbreaking >> >> *MyWi >> *My3G >> *Overboard >> >> Around Me - This app is AWESOME for if you're traveling >> and you want to find things that are...well, Around you. >> Well worth checking out, and it's cheap. >> >> RedLaser - Never buy something in a store and kick >> yourself when you get home and find that the average >> price is 20% less again. >> >> AirMouse - Kind of cool for controlling your mouse on a PC >> attached to a big screen TV. Geek toy. >> >> Skype - Way cool if you're in the Bahamas and can't use >> your cell phone without spending a million bucks...just >> use the hotel's wi-fi and you can call home for cheap >> or free. >> >> iGo My Way GPS or Tom Tom GPS - You probably want one of >> these for when you travel. That way you'll have a full >> roadable GPS for your rental car. They're invaluable! >> >> TextNow - An unlimited texting app. If your kid texts >> a lot, save your cellphone bill and just make them use >> this app. >> >> SplashID - Here's a favorite of mine....carry all your >> passwords and website passwords with you every where you >> go...credit card numbers, bank account numbers, pilot >> certificate numbers, DUATS code and passwords, everything. >> It's all stored encrypted and you can get a desktop >> app to sync it to or enter data easier. I use it all >> the time and is one of my favorite apps. >> >> >> So there you go....that and a couple of web sites should >> give you much of what you'd ever want. >> >> >> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD >> do not archive >> >> >> Bill Schlatterer wrote: >>> > >>> >>> OK, I spent an hour last night on Foreflight and bought the annual >>> package. >>> I love the route briefing and particularly the translated METARS. >>> I can >>> read the script but always have to think too hard about the Zulu >>> times. I >>> wonder if they will switch to the new PROG charts with the enhanced >>> graphics. I really like them a lot better than the standard stuff. >>> >>> It is a better package than AOPA because it is specifically >>> designed for the >>> iPhone. It's cool being able to download charts, airport >>> directory, and >>> approachs/stars/sids etc and have them in your hand in the >>> airplane. Not as >>> nice to use as a full size chart but cool for reference or in a >>> pinch. >>> >>> Thanks for the tip! Please post any other good iPhone aviation >>> aps that you >>> come across. >>> >>> Bill S >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:04:12 AM PST US From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Automotive Spark Plugs I recall at least 3 OSH's now where I have heard "soon". You can wait fo r the 6cyl pMag, which may or may not be as buggy as the current and past m odels, or you can choose one of a couple others that are fairly well proven and have had most of the bugs sprayed with RAID. Michael From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m atronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Froehlich Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 6:45 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Automotive Spark Plugs Wait for the 6 cylinder pMag.... Carl Froehlich Previous dual Lightspeed owner on my 8A (450 total hours with many problems ). I now run dual pMags on the 8A (100 trouble free hours so far) and will put them on my RV-10. From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m atronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 6:17 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Automotive Spark Plugs Robin, We have used IO540-C4B5. We are running a Lightspeed Plasma III on the le ft side and the original mag on the right side. I have the automotive plug s in the top of the cylinders and the aircraft mag plugs on the bottom. We start on the electronic ignition. RPM drop on the mags only is much highe r than the electronics only mode. Waiting with plans to upgrade the right mag to a P-Mag or E-Mag if they eve r get them done for the 540 series. But may also end up just installing a second Lightspeed when the mag finally give up. Working well for us. Jim C (N312F - Doing the first condition inspection now in a COLD hanger!) Do Not Archive --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------- As I have only had Dual Mags on now 9 different planes what do people use with one electronic and one Mag? Automotive plugs on the electronic and Aviation plugs on the Mag? Robin www.aeroelectric.com www.buildersbooks.com www.homebuilthelp.com www.howtocrimp.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://forums.matronics.com rsbooks.com> m> ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:25:47 AM PST US From: Deems Davis Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone My current carrier is Sprint and I've been told that their network isn't compatible with the iPhone (even unlocked). Deems Jesse Saint wrote: > > Or you could unlock one and put a SIM card from another carrier in it. > > Jesse Saint > Saint Aviation > jesse@saintaviation.com > 352-427-0285 > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 31, 2009, at 10:17 PM, Deems Davis wrote: > >> >> You guys are driving me crazy, and green w/ envy! I live in an area >> that's not got any at&t coverage, I want an iphone (Foreflight >> really) so bad it hurts! hopegully Google and Android will come to >> the rescue soon. >> >> Deems >> >> Tim Olson wrote: >>> >>> Here, I'll list some of the iphone apps for flying that I have >>> and a short comment about each... >>> >>> Foreflight Mobile 3.0 >>> This is the app that everyone should have. It's awesome in >>> too many ways to list. Discount pricing for the rest of tonight. >>> Try filing a VFR flight plan for a route on it once, after >>> downloading the free demo. You'll be amazed at the email you >>> get back. >>> >>> >>> WingX >>> A many-featured app. Not utterly horrible, but so much less >>> user friendly than Foreflight that I would only recommend it >>> if you don't have a handheld or backup in-flight GPS moving >>> map. This app would serve fair, not perfect, from an in-flight >>> GPS perspective, and includes terrain. I wish I could pay >>> just 50% of the price, but ONLY get the nice moving map. >>> That would be an app I'd like. Or better yet, if Foreflight >>> would put in that type of moving map GPS function, I'm >>> sure they'd do a top notch job. >>> >>> Flight Control >>> It's just a game...but a fun one. :) >>> >>> >>> SkyCharts >>> Nice for a cheap, basically VFR only app, with the exception >>> that you can get approach plates but not nearly as handy >>> as the ones in Foreflight. And, you can get graphical weather >>> METAR colors on the map....which also isn't that huge of >>> a deal. But, as long as it's $10, you may as well download >>> it to play with. >>> >>> >>> TrackLog >>> Kind of cool. Similar to APRS and SPOT messenger, this can >>> track you as you fly. I don't know how it works at high >>> altitude when you're not in cell coverage though. But, >>> some people seem to have luck with it. It's cheap enough >>> to try out. >>> >>> >>> PilotFAR >>> Nice to have the regs on hand and searchable....no more >>> buying that stinkin' book every year. >>> >>> >>> Horizon >>> An attitude indicator. Play only, but it's cheap, and >>> something to show to your buds. >>> >>> >>> NavClock >>> If you want more out of a clock app, this one has some good >>> weather info. I rarely use it. >>> >>> >>> AeroWeather >>> A pretty nice weather app that I've used in the past to >>> just get a quick visual wind and weather check for local >>> airports. Foreflight can take it's place though...but >>> at least this one is cheap. >>> >>> >>> FltPlan >>> FlightPlan.com's app. The app itself isn't near as slick >>> as some of the others, but, it does have some neat things >>> like Bahamas airport info. I've only used it a couple times, >>> mainly because their website flight planner gets good >>> reviews. But, I haven't found anything groundbreaking >>> about it.... for me, Foreflight and Voyager are my tools >>> of choice. They do have some EAPIS tools I've read about >>> a little that might be good if you do a lot of international >>> flying, but I'm not sure how much of that is on the iphone app. >>> >>> >>> FlightAware LiveTracking >>> A cool little app for tracking your RV-10 buddies as they >>> fly IFR. >>> >>> >>> LiveATC >>> Online ATC broadcasts from many airports. Fun to listen >>> to when you're bored. >>> >>> >>> RoqyBT >>> A bluetooth stack you can put on an ipod touch (jailbroken) >>> that allows you to use a bluetooth GPS with GPS integrated >>> apps. >>> >>> >>> >>> Other apps non-aviation that I find pretty handy: >>> Note: Starred apps require jailbreaking >>> >>> *MyWi >>> *My3G >>> *Overboard >>> >>> Around Me - This app is AWESOME for if you're traveling >>> and you want to find things that are...well, Around you. >>> Well worth checking out, and it's cheap. >>> >>> RedLaser - Never buy something in a store and kick >>> yourself when you get home and find that the average >>> price is 20% less again. >>> >>> AirMouse - Kind of cool for controlling your mouse on a PC >>> attached to a big screen TV. Geek toy. >>> >>> Skype - Way cool if you're in the Bahamas and can't use >>> your cell phone without spending a million bucks...just >>> use the hotel's wi-fi and you can call home for cheap >>> or free. >>> >>> iGo My Way GPS or Tom Tom GPS - You probably want one of >>> these for when you travel. That way you'll have a full >>> roadable GPS for your rental car. They're invaluable! >>> >>> TextNow - An unlimited texting app. If your kid texts >>> a lot, save your cellphone bill and just make them use >>> this app. >>> >>> SplashID - Here's a favorite of mine....carry all your >>> passwords and website passwords with you every where you >>> go...credit card numbers, bank account numbers, pilot >>> certificate numbers, DUATS code and passwords, everything. >>> It's all stored encrypted and you can get a desktop >>> app to sync it to or enter data easier. I use it all >>> the time and is one of my favorite apps. >>> >>> >>> So there you go....that and a couple of web sites should >>> give you much of what you'd ever want. >>> >>> >>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD >>> do not archive >>> >>> >>> Bill Schlatterer wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> OK, I spent an hour last night on Foreflight and bought the annual >>>> package. >>>> I love the route briefing and particularly the translated METARS. >>>> I can >>>> read the script but always have to think too hard about the Zulu >>>> times. I >>>> wonder if they will switch to the new PROG charts with the enhanced >>>> graphics. I really like them a lot better than the standard stuff. >>>> >>>> It is a better package than AOPA because it is specifically >>>> designed for the >>>> iPhone. It's cool being able to download charts, airport >>>> directory, and >>>> approachs/stars/sids etc and have them in your hand in the >>>> airplane. Not as >>>> nice to use as a full size chart but cool for reference or in a pinch. >>>> >>>> Thanks for the tip! Please post any other good iPhone aviation aps >>>> that you >>>> come across. >>>> >>>> Bill S >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:49:30 AM PST US From: Michael Kraus Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone FYI, SkyCharts came out with an update yesterday, they now have IFR low enroute charts! I really like that app! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 31, 2009, at 9:02 PM, Tim Olson wrote: > > Here, I'll list some of the iphone apps for flying that I have > and a short comment about each... > > Foreflight Mobile 3.0 > This is the app that everyone should have. It's awesome in > too many ways to list. Discount pricing for the rest of tonight. > Try filing a VFR flight plan for a route on it once, after > downloading the free demo. You'll be amazed at the email you > get back. > > > WingX > A many-featured app. Not utterly horrible, but so much less > user friendly than Foreflight that I would only recommend it > if you don't have a handheld or backup in-flight GPS moving > map. This app would serve fair, not perfect, from an in-flight > GPS perspective, and includes terrain. I wish I could pay > just 50% of the price, but ONLY get the nice moving map. > That would be an app I'd like. Or better yet, if Foreflight > would put in that type of moving map GPS function, I'm > sure they'd do a top notch job. > > Flight Control > It's just a game...but a fun one. :) > > > SkyCharts > Nice for a cheap, basically VFR only app, with the exception > that you can get approach plates but not nearly as handy > as the ones in Foreflight. And, you can get graphical weather > METAR colors on the map....which also isn't that huge of > a deal. But, as long as it's $10, you may as well download > it to play with. > > > TrackLog > Kind of cool. Similar to APRS and SPOT messenger, this can > track you as you fly. I don't know how it works at high > altitude when you're not in cell coverage though. But, > some people seem to have luck with it. It's cheap enough > to try out. > > > PilotFAR > Nice to have the regs on hand and searchable....no more > buying that stinkin' book every year. > > > Horizon > An attitude indicator. Play only, but it's cheap, and > something to show to your buds. > > > NavClock > If you want more out of a clock app, this one has some good > weather info. I rarely use it. > > > AeroWeather > A pretty nice weather app that I've used in the past to > just get a quick visual wind and weather check for local > airports. Foreflight can take it's place though...but > at least this one is cheap. > > > FltPlan > FlightPlan.com's app. The app itself isn't near as slick > as some of the others, but, it does have some neat things > like Bahamas airport info. I've only used it a couple times, > mainly because their website flight planner gets good > reviews. But, I haven't found anything groundbreaking > about it.... for me, Foreflight and Voyager are my tools > of choice. They do have some EAPIS tools I've read about > a little that might be good if you do a lot of international > flying, but I'm not sure how much of that is on the iphone app. > > > FlightAware LiveTracking > A cool little app for tracking your RV-10 buddies as they > fly IFR. > > > LiveATC > Online ATC broadcasts from many airports. Fun to listen > to when you're bored. > > > RoqyBT > A bluetooth stack you can put on an ipod touch (jailbroken) > that allows you to use a bluetooth GPS with GPS integrated > apps. > > > Other apps non-aviation that I find pretty handy: > Note: Starred apps require jailbreaking > > *MyWi > *My3G > *Overboard > > Around Me - This app is AWESOME for if you're traveling > and you want to find things that are...well, Around you. > Well worth checking out, and it's cheap. > > RedLaser - Never buy something in a store and kick > yourself when you get home and find that the average > price is 20% less again. > > AirMouse - Kind of cool for controlling your mouse on a PC > attached to a big screen TV. Geek toy. > > Skype - Way cool if you're in the Bahamas and can't use > your cell phone without spending a million bucks...just > use the hotel's wi-fi and you can call home for cheap > or free. > > iGo My Way GPS or Tom Tom GPS - You probably want one of > these for when you travel. That way you'll have a full > roadable GPS for your rental car. They're invaluable! > > TextNow - An unlimited texting app. If your kid texts > a lot, save your cellphone bill and just make them use > this app. > > SplashID - Here's a favorite of mine....carry all your > passwords and website passwords with you every where you > go...credit card numbers, bank account numbers, pilot > certificate numbers, DUATS code and passwords, everything. > It's all stored encrypted and you can get a desktop > app to sync it to or enter data easier. I use it all > the time and is one of my favorite apps. > > > So there you go....that and a couple of web sites should > give you much of what you'd ever want. > > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD > do not archive > > > Bill Schlatterer wrote: >> > >> OK, I spent an hour last night on Foreflight and bought the annual >> package. >> I love the route briefing and particularly the translated METARS. >> I can >> read the script but always have to think too hard about the Zulu >> times. I >> wonder if they will switch to the new PROG charts with the enhanced >> graphics. I really like them a lot better than the standard stuff. >> It is a better package than AOPA because it is specifically >> designed for the >> iPhone. It's cool being able to download charts, airport >> directory, and >> approachs/stars/sids etc and have them in your hand in the >> airplane. Not as >> nice to use as a full size chart but cool for reference or in a >> pinch. >> Thanks for the tip! Please post any other good iPhone aviation aps >> that you >> come across. >> Bill S > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:04:26 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone Hey, nice tip. I saw it was updated yesterday but hadn't had a chance to try it. The one thing I don't like is the download manager..it's harder to know which low enroutes you need to cache unless you have them written down from looking online. The IFR lows and TACs are a big improvement but it's still a small subset of features of FF3.0 which I think is offers much more for the user. Skycharts is still improving though, so over time maybe they'll add more. It's certainly worth the small price to try it out. The Breadcrumbs feature might appeal to some, and the METARs graphically on the chart are nice if your're on the ground or in data service. Chart updates are free until 2.0, so expect that as they add features the price may follow. The competition is great! Still the #1 missing thing is a really good moving map gps (non-sectional type) that can compete with a garmin 296. I'd pay $100 for that app if it came with database updates. Maybe foreflight or skycharts will do it. Right now wingX is the only one that seems to be close...and that isn't great since I find the overall app kind of kludgy. Tim On Jan 1, 2010, at 8:15 AM, Michael Kraus wrote: > > > > FYI, SkyCharts came out with an update yesterday, they now have IFR > low enroute charts! I really like that app! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 31, 2009, at 9:02 PM, Tim Olson wrote: > >> >> Here, I'll list some of the iphone apps for flying that I have >> and a short comment about each... >> >> Foreflight Mobile 3.0 >> This is the app that everyone should have. It's awesome in >> too many ways to list. Discount pricing for the rest of tonight. >> Try filing a VFR flight plan for a route on it once, after >> downloading the free demo. You'll be amazed at the email you >> get back. >> >> >> WingX >> A many-featured app. Not utterly horrible, but so much less >> user friendly than Foreflight that I would only recommend it >> if you don't have a handheld or backup in-flight GPS moving >> map. This app would serve fair, not perfect, from an in-flight >> GPS perspective, and includes terrain. I wish I could pay >> just 50% of the price, but ONLY get the nice moving map. >> That would be an app I'd like. Or better yet, if Foreflight >> would put in that type of moving map GPS function, I'm >> sure they'd do a top notch job. >> >> Flight Control >> It's just a game...but a fun one. :) >> >> >> SkyCharts >> Nice for a cheap, basically VFR only app, with the exception >> that you can get approach plates but not nearly as handy >> as the ones in Foreflight. And, you can get graphical weather >> METAR colors on the map....which also isn't that huge of >> a deal. But, as long as it's $10, you may as well download >> it to play with. >> >> >> TrackLog >> Kind of cool. Similar to APRS and SPOT messenger, this can >> track you as you fly. I don't know how it works at high >> altitude when you're not in cell coverage though. But, >> some people seem to have luck with it. It's cheap enough >> to try out. >> >> >> PilotFAR >> Nice to have the regs on hand and searchable....no more >> buying that stinkin' book every year. >> >> >> Horizon >> An attitude indicator. Play only, but it's cheap, and >> something to show to your buds. >> >> >> NavClock >> If you want more out of a clock app, this one has some good >> weather info. I rarely use it. >> >> >> AeroWeather >> A pretty nice weather app that I've used in the past to >> just get a quick visual wind and weather check for local >> airports. Foreflight can take it's place though...but >> at least this one is cheap. >> >> >> FltPlan >> FlightPlan.com's app. The app itself isn't near as slick >> as some of the others, but, it does have some neat things >> like Bahamas airport info. I've only used it a couple times, >> mainly because their website flight planner gets good >> reviews. But, I haven't found anything groundbreaking >> about it.... for me, Foreflight and Voyager are my tools >> of choice. They do have some EAPIS tools I've read about >> a little that might be good if you do a lot of international >> flying, but I'm not sure how much of that is on the iphone app. >> >> >> FlightAware LiveTracking >> A cool little app for tracking your RV-10 buddies as they >> fly IFR. >> >> >> LiveATC >> Online ATC broadcasts from many airports. Fun to listen >> to when you're bored. >> >> >> RoqyBT >> A bluetooth stack you can put on an ipod touch (jailbroken) >> that allows you to use a bluetooth GPS with GPS integrated >> apps. >> >> >> >> Other apps non-aviation that I find pretty handy: >> Note: Starred apps require jailbreaking >> >> *MyWi >> *My3G >> *Overboard >> >> Around Me - This app is AWESOME for if you're traveling >> and you want to find things that are...well, Around you. >> Well worth checking out, and it's cheap. >> >> RedLaser - Never buy something in a store and kick >> yourself when you get home and find that the average >> price is 20% less again. >> >> AirMouse - Kind of cool for controlling your mouse on a PC >> attached to a big screen TV. Geek toy. >> >> Skype - Way cool if you're in the Bahamas and can't use >> your cell phone without spending a million bucks...just >> use the hotel's wi-fi and you can call home for cheap >> or free. >> >> iGo My Way GPS or Tom Tom GPS - You probably want one of >> these for when you travel. That way you'll have a full >> roadable GPS for your rental car. They're invaluable! >> >> TextNow - An unlimited texting app. If your kid texts >> a lot, save your cellphone bill and just make them use >> this app. >> >> SplashID - Here's a favorite of mine....carry all your >> passwords and website passwords with you every where you >> go...credit card numbers, bank account numbers, pilot >> certificate numbers, DUATS code and passwords, everything. >> It's all stored encrypted and you can get a desktop >> app to sync it to or enter data easier. I use it all >> the time and is one of my favorite apps. >> >> >> So there you go....that and a couple of web sites should >> give you much of what you'd ever want. >> >> >> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD >> do not archive >> >> >> Bill Schlatterer wrote: >>> > >>> OK, I spent an hour last night on Foreflight and bought the annual >>> package. >>> I love the route briefing and particularly the translated METARS. >>> I can >>> read the script but always have to think too hard about the Zulu >>> times. I >>> wonder if they will switch to the new PROG charts with the enhanced >>> graphics. I really like them a lot better than the standard stuff. >>> It is a better package than AOPA because it is specifically >>> designed for the >>> iPhone. It's cool being able to download charts, airport >>> directory, and >>> approachs/stars/sids etc and have them in your hand in the >>> airplane. Not as >>> nice to use as a full size chart but cool for reference or in a >>> pinch. >>> Thanks for the tip! Please post any other good iPhone aviation >>> aps that you >>> come across. >>> Bill S >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:06:35 AM PST US From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone Correct, completely different frequencies and technologies. Also, Verizon and AT&T use different frequencies for 3G so even though they are compatible, you need to be sure the phone supports both. I don't believe the iPhone does so you are stuck at 2G with some other carriers. Michael -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 8:07 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone My current carrier is Sprint and I've been told that their network isn't compatible with the iPhone (even unlocked). Deems Jesse Saint wrote: > > Or you could unlock one and put a SIM card from another carrier in it. > > Jesse Saint > Saint Aviation > jesse@saintaviation.com > 352-427-0285 > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 31, 2009, at 10:17 PM, Deems Davis wrote: > >> >> You guys are driving me crazy, and green w/ envy! I live in an area >> that's not got any at&t coverage, I want an iphone (Foreflight >> really) so bad it hurts! hopegully Google and Android will come to >> the rescue soon. >> >> Deems >> >> Tim Olson wrote: >>> >>> Here, I'll list some of the iphone apps for flying that I have >>> and a short comment about each... >>> >>> Foreflight Mobile 3.0 >>> This is the app that everyone should have. It's awesome in >>> too many ways to list. Discount pricing for the rest of tonight. >>> Try filing a VFR flight plan for a route on it once, after >>> downloading the free demo. You'll be amazed at the email you >>> get back. >>> >>> >>> WingX >>> A many-featured app. Not utterly horrible, but so much less >>> user friendly than Foreflight that I would only recommend it >>> if you don't have a handheld or backup in-flight GPS moving >>> map. This app would serve fair, not perfect, from an in-flight >>> GPS perspective, and includes terrain. I wish I could pay >>> just 50% of the price, but ONLY get the nice moving map. >>> That would be an app I'd like. Or better yet, if Foreflight >>> would put in that type of moving map GPS function, I'm >>> sure they'd do a top notch job. >>> >>> Flight Control >>> It's just a game...but a fun one. :) >>> >>> >>> SkyCharts >>> Nice for a cheap, basically VFR only app, with the exception >>> that you can get approach plates but not nearly as handy >>> as the ones in Foreflight. And, you can get graphical weather >>> METAR colors on the map....which also isn't that huge of >>> a deal. But, as long as it's $10, you may as well download >>> it to play with. >>> >>> >>> TrackLog >>> Kind of cool. Similar to APRS and SPOT messenger, this can >>> track you as you fly. I don't know how it works at high >>> altitude when you're not in cell coverage though. But, >>> some people seem to have luck with it. It's cheap enough >>> to try out. >>> >>> >>> PilotFAR >>> Nice to have the regs on hand and searchable....no more >>> buying that stinkin' book every year. >>> >>> >>> Horizon >>> An attitude indicator. Play only, but it's cheap, and >>> something to show to your buds. >>> >>> >>> NavClock >>> If you want more out of a clock app, this one has some good >>> weather info. I rarely use it. >>> >>> >>> AeroWeather >>> A pretty nice weather app that I've used in the past to >>> just get a quick visual wind and weather check for local >>> airports. Foreflight can take it's place though...but >>> at least this one is cheap. >>> >>> >>> FltPlan >>> FlightPlan.com's app. The app itself isn't near as slick >>> as some of the others, but, it does have some neat things >>> like Bahamas airport info. I've only used it a couple times, >>> mainly because their website flight planner gets good >>> reviews. But, I haven't found anything groundbreaking >>> about it.... for me, Foreflight and Voyager are my tools >>> of choice. They do have some EAPIS tools I've read about >>> a little that might be good if you do a lot of international >>> flying, but I'm not sure how much of that is on the iphone app. >>> >>> >>> FlightAware LiveTracking >>> A cool little app for tracking your RV-10 buddies as they >>> fly IFR. >>> >>> >>> LiveATC >>> Online ATC broadcasts from many airports. Fun to listen >>> to when you're bored. >>> >>> >>> RoqyBT >>> A bluetooth stack you can put on an ipod touch (jailbroken) >>> that allows you to use a bluetooth GPS with GPS integrated >>> apps. >>> >>> >>> >>> Other apps non-aviation that I find pretty handy: >>> Note: Starred apps require jailbreaking >>> >>> *MyWi >>> *My3G >>> *Overboard >>> >>> Around Me - This app is AWESOME for if you're traveling >>> and you want to find things that are...well, Around you. >>> Well worth checking out, and it's cheap. >>> >>> RedLaser - Never buy something in a store and kick >>> yourself when you get home and find that the average >>> price is 20% less again. >>> >>> AirMouse - Kind of cool for controlling your mouse on a PC >>> attached to a big screen TV. Geek toy. >>> >>> Skype - Way cool if you're in the Bahamas and can't use >>> your cell phone without spending a million bucks...just >>> use the hotel's wi-fi and you can call home for cheap >>> or free. >>> >>> iGo My Way GPS or Tom Tom GPS - You probably want one of >>> these for when you travel. That way you'll have a full >>> roadable GPS for your rental car. They're invaluable! >>> >>> TextNow - An unlimited texting app. If your kid texts >>> a lot, save your cellphone bill and just make them use >>> this app. >>> >>> SplashID - Here's a favorite of mine....carry all your >>> passwords and website passwords with you every where you >>> go...credit card numbers, bank account numbers, pilot >>> certificate numbers, DUATS code and passwords, everything. >>> It's all stored encrypted and you can get a desktop >>> app to sync it to or enter data easier. I use it all >>> the time and is one of my favorite apps. >>> >>> >>> So there you go....that and a couple of web sites should >>> give you much of what you'd ever want. >>> >>> >>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD >>> do not archive >>> >>> >>> Bill Schlatterer wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> OK, I spent an hour last night on Foreflight and bought the annual >>>> package. >>>> I love the route briefing and particularly the translated METARS. >>>> I can >>>> read the script but always have to think too hard about the Zulu >>>> times. I >>>> wonder if they will switch to the new PROG charts with the enhanced >>>> graphics. I really like them a lot better than the standard stuff. >>>> >>>> It is a better package than AOPA because it is specifically >>>> designed for the >>>> iPhone. It's cool being able to download charts, airport >>>> directory, and >>>> approachs/stars/sids etc and have them in your hand in the >>>> airplane. Not as >>>> nice to use as a full size chart but cool for reference or in a pinch. >>>> >>>> Thanks for the tip! Please post any other good iPhone aviation aps >>>> that you >>>> come across. >>>> >>>> Bill S >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:08:00 AM PST US From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone I honestly think we are going to see the app market slowly shift to browser based or something similar that is cross platform. The general consensus out there is app developers are getting fed up with Apple and other approval systems and the Android market will continue to grow. AT&T's issues may not kill the iPhone market but it certainly leaves the door wide open for Android and others. If Apple is lucky their exclusitivity agreement will run out before Android catches up or an alternative App delivery system materializes. The only real killer app for the iPhone is the App Store IMHO. Michael -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 10:38 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone PS: I did see that the foreflight guys wrote the weather app for the droid, and I'd assume that over time if they see a market growing, they'll probably add much of the foreflight mobile feature set. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive Deems Davis wrote: > > You guys are driving me crazy, and green w/ envy! I live in an area > that's not got any at&t coverage, I want an iphone (Foreflight really) > so bad it hurts! hopegully Google and Android will come to the rescue soon. > > Deems > > Tim Olson wrote: >> >> Here, I'll list some of the iphone apps for flying that I have >> and a short comment about each... >> >> Foreflight Mobile 3.0 >> This is the app that everyone should have. It's awesome in >> too many ways to list. Discount pricing for the rest of tonight. >> Try filing a VFR flight plan for a route on it once, after >> downloading the free demo. You'll be amazed at the email you >> get back. >> >> >> WingX >> A many-featured app. Not utterly horrible, but so much less >> user friendly than Foreflight that I would only recommend it >> if you don't have a handheld or backup in-flight GPS moving >> map. This app would serve fair, not perfect, from an in-flight >> GPS perspective, and includes terrain. I wish I could pay >> just 50% of the price, but ONLY get the nice moving map. >> That would be an app I'd like. Or better yet, if Foreflight >> would put in that type of moving map GPS function, I'm >> sure they'd do a top notch job. >> >> Flight Control >> It's just a game...but a fun one. :) >> >> >> SkyCharts >> Nice for a cheap, basically VFR only app, with the exception >> that you can get approach plates but not nearly as handy >> as the ones in Foreflight. And, you can get graphical weather >> METAR colors on the map....which also isn't that huge of >> a deal. But, as long as it's $10, you may as well download >> it to play with. >> >> >> TrackLog >> Kind of cool. Similar to APRS and SPOT messenger, this can >> track you as you fly. I don't know how it works at high >> altitude when you're not in cell coverage though. But, >> some people seem to have luck with it. It's cheap enough >> to try out. >> >> >> PilotFAR >> Nice to have the regs on hand and searchable....no more >> buying that stinkin' book every year. >> >> >> Horizon >> An attitude indicator. Play only, but it's cheap, and >> something to show to your buds. >> >> >> NavClock >> If you want more out of a clock app, this one has some good >> weather info. I rarely use it. >> >> >> AeroWeather >> A pretty nice weather app that I've used in the past to >> just get a quick visual wind and weather check for local >> airports. Foreflight can take it's place though...but >> at least this one is cheap. >> >> >> FltPlan >> FlightPlan.com's app. The app itself isn't near as slick >> as some of the others, but, it does have some neat things >> like Bahamas airport info. I've only used it a couple times, >> mainly because their website flight planner gets good >> reviews. But, I haven't found anything groundbreaking >> about it.... for me, Foreflight and Voyager are my tools >> of choice. They do have some EAPIS tools I've read about >> a little that might be good if you do a lot of international >> flying, but I'm not sure how much of that is on the iphone app. >> >> >> FlightAware LiveTracking >> A cool little app for tracking your RV-10 buddies as they >> fly IFR. >> >> >> LiveATC >> Online ATC broadcasts from many airports. Fun to listen >> to when you're bored. >> >> >> RoqyBT >> A bluetooth stack you can put on an ipod touch (jailbroken) >> that allows you to use a bluetooth GPS with GPS integrated >> apps. >> >> >> >> Other apps non-aviation that I find pretty handy: >> Note: Starred apps require jailbreaking >> >> *MyWi >> *My3G >> *Overboard >> >> Around Me - This app is AWESOME for if you're traveling >> and you want to find things that are...well, Around you. >> Well worth checking out, and it's cheap. >> >> RedLaser - Never buy something in a store and kick >> yourself when you get home and find that the average >> price is 20% less again. >> >> AirMouse - Kind of cool for controlling your mouse on a PC >> attached to a big screen TV. Geek toy. >> >> Skype - Way cool if you're in the Bahamas and can't use >> your cell phone without spending a million bucks...just >> use the hotel's wi-fi and you can call home for cheap >> or free. >> >> iGo My Way GPS or Tom Tom GPS - You probably want one of >> these for when you travel. That way you'll have a full >> roadable GPS for your rental car. They're invaluable! >> >> TextNow - An unlimited texting app. If your kid texts >> a lot, save your cellphone bill and just make them use >> this app. >> >> SplashID - Here's a favorite of mine....carry all your >> passwords and website passwords with you every where you >> go...credit card numbers, bank account numbers, pilot >> certificate numbers, DUATS code and passwords, everything. >> It's all stored encrypted and you can get a desktop >> app to sync it to or enter data easier. I use it all >> the time and is one of my favorite apps. >> >> >> So there you go....that and a couple of web sites should >> give you much of what you'd ever want. >> >> >> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD >> do not archive >> >> >> Bill Schlatterer wrote: >>> >>> >>> OK, I spent an hour last night on Foreflight and bought the annual >>> package. >>> I love the route briefing and particularly the translated METARS. I can >>> read the script but always have to think too hard about the Zulu >>> times. I >>> wonder if they will switch to the new PROG charts with the enhanced >>> graphics. I really like them a lot better than the standard stuff. >>> >>> It is a better package than AOPA because it is specifically designed >>> for the >>> iPhone. It's cool being able to download charts, airport directory, and >>> approachs/stars/sids etc and have them in your hand in the airplane. >>> Not as >>> nice to use as a full size chart but cool for reference or in a pinch. >>> >>> Thanks for the tip! Please post any other good iPhone aviation aps >>> that you >>> come across. >>> >>> Bill S >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:51:16 AM PST US From: "DLM" Subject: RV10-List: FW: Confirmed: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservation Check this reservation made as unknown individual. Note the $45 decrease in price for same rental. The FBO is adjacent to the airport terminal. -----Original Message----- From: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservations [mailto:onlinereservations@enterprise.com] Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 9:27 AM Subject: Confirmed: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservation Dear David McNeill, Thank you for choosing Enterprise. We look forward to seeing you on Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 10:00 am. If you didn't print your confirmation when you reserved your car, please print this Email or record your confirmation number. You may need it when you pick up your rental. Your rental information is summarized below. 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Enterprise is always nearby at more than 6,500 neighborhood locations. ----------------------- RESERVATION INFORMATION ----------------------- Confirmation Number: R0PFDT Name: McNeill, David Pick Up Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 10:00 am Drop Off Date: Monday, January 18, 2010 at 10:00 am Rental Office Address and Phone Number: CEDAR CITY AP IN TERM 2560 AVIATION WAY CEDAR CITY, UT 84720-8327 Tel.: (435) 865-1435 Office Hours for the week of: January 11, 2010 Monday 8:30 am 6:00 pm Tuesday 8:30 am 6:00 pm Wednesday 8:30 am 6:00 pm Thursday 8:30 am 6:00 pm Friday 8:30 am 6:00 pm Saturday 9:00 am Noon Sunday CLOSED Car and Rate Information: Intermediate Pontiac G5, Nissan Sentra, Toyota Corolla or similar 62.68 USD (2 Days @ 31.34) 1.34 USD (VEHICLE LICENSE FEE) 64.02 USD (Subtotal) 6.40 USD (AIRPORT ACCESS FEE) 6.06 USD (SALES TAX) Total charges 76.48 USD NOTE: Pricing does not include coverage. ------------------------- ENTERPRISE PICK-UP POLICY ------------------------- PICK-UP OR DELIVERY SERVICE IS AVAILABLE AT YOUR GENERAL AVIATION AIRPORT. - AFTER BOOKING A RESERVATION PLEASE CALL THE LOCAL RENTAL OFFICE TO ARRANGE FOR SHUTTLE SERVICE. - GEOGRAPHIC RESTRICTIONS MAY APPLY. ------------------------- ENTERPRISE MILEAGE POLICY ------------------------- MILEAGE IS UNLIMITED WHEN VEHICLE REMAINS IN THE RENTING STATE OR BORDERING STATES INCLUDING CALIFORNIA. IF TRAVELING OUTSIDE OF THOSE STATES, MILEAGE IS CHARGED AT 200 MILES FREE PER DAY, 1400 MILES PER WEEK, & 2500 MILES PER MONTH, AND .20 FOR EACH ADDITIONAL MILE, FOR THE ENTIRE RENTAL. --------------------- ENTERPRISE AGE POLICY --------------------- ALL DRIVERS MUST BE 21 YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER. RENTERS 21 THROUGH 24 YEARS OF AGE MAY ONLY RENT ECONOMY THROUGH FULLSIZE CARS. ----------------------------- ENTERPRISE AFTER HOURS POLICY ----------------------------- PLEASE LOCK CAR DOORS AND THEN PLACE KEYS IN THE KEY DROP BOX. 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This is a reservation made with the EAA discount . Check my next email. -----Original Message----- From: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservations [mailto:onlinereservations@enterprise.com] Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 9:22 AM Subject: Confirmed: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservation Dear d mcnel, Thank you for choosing Enterprise. We look forward to seeing you on Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 10:00 am. If you didn't print your confirmation when you reserved your car, please print this Email or record your confirmation number. You may need it when you pick up your rental. Your rental information is summarized below. P.S. Remember us when you're renting in town. Enterprise is always nearby at more than 6,500 neighborhood locations. ----------------------- RESERVATION INFORMATION ----------------------- Confirmation Number: R0PD9P Name: mcnel, d Pick Up Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 10:00 am Drop Off Date: Monday, January 18, 2010 at 10:00 am Car Provided by: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Tel.: (435) 865-1435 Car Located at: Sphere One Av Office Hours for the week of: January 11, 2010 Monday 8:30 am 6:00 pm Tuesday 8:30 am 6:00 pm Wednesday 8:30 am 6:00 pm Thursday 8:30 am 6:00 pm Friday 8:30 am 6:00 pm Saturday 9:00 am Noon Sunday CLOSED Car and Rate Information for EAA - MEMBER BENEFIT NAT'L ACCT: Intermediate Pontiac G5, Nissan Sentra, Toyota Corolla or similar 93.00 USD (2 Days @ 46.50) 1.34 USD (VEHICLE LICENSE FEE) 94.34 USD (Subtotal) 9.43 USD (AIRPORT ACCESS FEE) 8.93 USD (SALES TAX) Total charges 112.70 USD NOTE: Pricing does not include coverage. ------------------------- ENTERPRISE PICK-UP POLICY ------------------------- PICK-UP OR DELIVERY SERVICE IS AVAILABLE AT YOUR GENERAL AVIATION AIRPORT. - AFTER BOOKING A RESERVATION PLEASE CALL THE LOCAL RENTAL OFFICE TO ARRANGE FOR SHUTTLE SERVICE. - GEOGRAPHIC RESTRICTIONS MAY APPLY. ------------------------- ENTERPRISE MILEAGE POLICY ------------------------- MILEAGE IS UNLIMITED WHEN VEHICLE REMAINS IN THE RENTING STATE. 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(Note: Modifying your location, date, or time may result in changes to your rates, taxes, surcharges or underage fee). https://www.enterprise.com/car_rental/deeplinkmap.do?bid=001&confirmnum=R0PD 9P&lastname=mcnel&cnty=US&language=EN ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:08:31 AM PST US From: "DLM" Subject: RV10-List: car rental discounts ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:10:46 AM PST US From: David Maib Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Automotive Spark Plugs I talked to them at Sun n' Fun last April. What they told me was that they were working on certification for the six cylinder P-Mag and elected not to release an uncertified version until the certified version is approved. They do plan on offering the uncertified version as well as the certified one. I am happy with my Lightspeed/Mag setup, but will definitely take a look at the 6 cyl. P-Mag when it is released. David Maib 40559 Flying On Jan 1, 2010, at 9:00 AM, RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote: I recall at least 3 OSH=92s now where I have heard =93soon=94. You can wait for the 6cyl pMag, which may or may not be as buggy as the current and past models, or you can choose one of a couple others that are fairly well proven and have had most of the bugs sprayed with RAID. Michael From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list- server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Froehlich Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 6:45 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Automotive Spark Plugs Wait for the 6 cylinder pMag=85. Carl Froehlich Previous dual Lightspeed owner on my 8A (450 total hours with many problems). I now run dual pMags on the 8A (100 trouble free hours so far) and will put them on my RV-10. From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list- server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 6:17 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Automotive Spark Plugs Robin, We have used IO540-C4B5. We are running a Lightspeed Plasma III on the left side and the original mag on the right side. I have the automotive plugs in the top of the cylinders and the aircraft mag plugs on the bottom. We start on the electronic ignition. RPM drop on the mags only is much higher than the electronics only mode. Waiting with plans to upgrade the right mag to a P-Mag or E-Mag if they ever get them done for the 540 series. But may also end up just installing a second Lightspeed when the mag finally give up. Working well for us. Jim C (N312F - Doing the first condition inspection now in a COLD hanger!) Do Not Archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------------------------- As I have only had Dual Mags on now 9 different planes what do people use with one electronic and one Mag? Automotive plugs on the electronic and Aviation plugs on the Mag? Robin www.aeroelectric.com www.buildersbooks.com www.homebuilthelp.com www.howtocrimp.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://forums.matronics.com bsp; (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) www.aeroelectric.comwww.buildersbooks.comwww.homebuilthelp.comwww.howtoc rimp.comhttp://www.matronics.com/consp; - M============== Chat, FAQ, http://www.matronics.=============== < Same great content also available via the Web Forums! href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:20:00 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone From: "lbgjb10" If you are planning a trip from A-B, and using FF 3, will it 'automatically' download the maps you need + approach plates etc, or do you have to manually download the maps, plates etc. And then do you have to 'save' them also?? Happy New Year to everyone. larry b -------- Larry and Gayle N104LG Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=279619#279619 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:49:07 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone No, it doesn't automatically download them based on routes. You can do that kind of thing with Voyager but not Foreflight. The foreflight download manager works on a state-by-state basis. So just look at your route and choose to download all of the states along the route. For Andrea's on the last trip I downloaded Wisconsin, Iowa, Illinois, Kentucky, Missouri, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, Florida. It might be handy to download by route sometimes, but at the same time, you don't always know where you'll divert to, so from a practical perspective it's nice to have that easily identifiable way to pick and choose the region you want charts for. You get the same type of selection for IFR Low, VFR Sectional, Approach plates, and such. Then once you have your selections made, you should only have to update every month as the new cycle comes out, and it should be pretty automatic. So in Foreflight you probably go forth with more information than you need. With Voyager I usually download all airport information for every airport within 75 miles of my route. But, on my last trip, my actual route went more than 75 miles out. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD lbgjb10 wrote: > > If you are planning a trip from A-B, and using FF 3, will it > 'automatically' download the maps you need + approach plates etc, or > do you have to manually download the maps, plates etc. And then do > you have to 'save' them also?? Happy New Year to everyone. larry b > > -------- Larry and Gayle N104LG > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=279619#279619 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:04:36 AM PST US From: Jesse Saint Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone It will not do it automatically. You have to sellect which features you want caches for which states, but then they are cached until deleted or replaced. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation jesse@saintaviation.com 352-427-0285 Sent from my iPhone On Jan 1, 2010, at 12:17 PM, "lbgjb10" wrote: > > If you are planning a trip from A-B, and using FF 3, will it > 'automatically' download the maps you need + approach plates etc, or > do you have to manually download the maps, plates etc. And then do > you have to 'save' them also?? Happy New Year to everyone. larry b > > -------- > Larry and Gayle N104LG > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=279619#279619 > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 11:05:30 AM PST US From: Don McDonald Subject: Re: RV10-List: FW: Confirmed: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservation If I understand this correctly... it was $76 cheaper renting AT the airport ???? Always ck both, because we found the exact opposite to be true.- In North Vegas, also Enterprise, we saved by renting form them 3 mile from the airp ort....and they still came and picked us up.- Who knows... I guess the mo ral is ck both Don McDonald --- On Fri, 1/1/10, DLM wrote: From: DLM Subject: RV10-List: FW: Confirmed: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservation -Check this reservation made as unknown individual. Note the $45 decrease in price for same rental. The FBO is adjacent to the airport terminal. -----Original Message----- From: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservations [mailto:onlinereservations@enterpr ise.com] Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 9:27 AM Subject: Confirmed: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservation Dear David McNeill, Thank you for choosing Enterprise.- We look forward to seeing you on Satu rday, January 16, 2010 at 10:00 am.- If you didn't print your confirmatio n when you reserved your car, please print this Email or record your confir mation number.- You may need it when you pick up your rental. Your rental information is summarized below. P.S. Remember us when you're renting in town.- Enterprise is always nearb y at more than 6,500 neighborhood locations. ----------------------- RESERVATION INFORMATION ----------------------- Confirmation Number: R0PFDT Name: McNeill, David Pick Up Date:- Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 10:00 am Drop Off Date:- Monday, January 18, 2010 at 10:00 am Rental Office Address and Phone Number: CEDAR CITY AP IN TERM 2560 AVIATION WAY CEDAR CITY, UT 84720-8327 Tel.: (435) 865-1435 Office Hours for the week of: January 11, 2010 Monday------- 8:30 am--- 6:00 pm----- Tuesday------ 8:30 am--- 6:00 pm----- Wednesday---- 8:30 am--- 6:00 pm----- Thursday----- 8:30 am--- 6:00 pm----- Friday------- 8:30 am--- 6:00 pm----- Saturday----- 9:00 am--- Noon----- Sunday------- CLOSED--------- Car and Rate Information: Intermediate Pontiac G5, Nissan Sentra, Toyota Corolla or similar --------------- 62.68 USD--- (2 Days @ 31.34) -------------- ---------------- 1.34 USD---- (VEHI CLE LICENSE FEE) -------------- ---------------- 64.02 USD--- (Subtot al) -------------- ---------------- 6.40 USD---- (AIRP ORT ACCESS FEE) -------------- ---------------- 6.06 USD---- (SALE S TAX) -------------- - Total charges- 76.48 USD-- - NOTE: Pricing does not include coverage. ------------------------- ENTERPRISE PICK-UP POLICY ------------------------- PICK-UP OR DELIVERY SERVICE IS AVAILABLE AT YOUR GENERAL AVIATION AIRPORT. - AFTER BOOKING A RESERVATION PLEASE CALL THE LOCAL RENTAL OFFICE TO ARRANG E FOR SHUTTLE SERVICE. - GEOGRAPHIC RESTRICTIONS MAY APPLY. ------------------------- ENTERPRISE MILEAGE POLICY ------------------------- MILEAGE IS UNLIMITED WHEN VEHICLE REMAINS IN THE RENTING STATE OR BORDERING STATES INCLUDING CALIFORNIA. IF TRAVELING OUTSIDE OF THOSE STATES, MILEAGE IS CHARGED AT 200 MILES FREE PER DAY, 1400 MILES PER WEEK, & 2500 MILES PE R MONTH, AND .20 FOR EACH ADDITIONAL MILE, FOR THE ENTIRE RENTAL. --------------------- ENTERPRISE AGE POLICY --------------------- ALL DRIVERS MUST BE 21 YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER. RENTERS 21 THROUGH 24 YEARS O F AGE MAY ONLY RENT ECONOMY THROUGH FULLSIZE CARS. ----------------------------- ENTERPRISE AFTER HOURS POLICY ----------------------------- PLEASE LOCK CAR DOORS AND THEN PLACE KEYS IN THE KEY DROP BOX.- THE RENTE R'S RESPONSIBILITY FOR VEHICLE CONDITION ENDS ONCE AN ENTERPRISE-RENT-A-CAR EMPLOYEE INSPECTS THE RENTAL VEHICLE THE NEXT BUSINESS DAY.- --------------------------- TO MAKE ANOTHER RESERVATION --------------------------- If you would like to make another online reservation or need additional inf ormation, please visit us again at: http://www.enterprise.com ------------------------------------ TO MODIFY OR CANCEL THIS RESERVATION ------------------------------------ Please click the link below to modify or cancel this reservation. (Note: Modifying your location, date, or time may result in changes to your rates, taxes, surcharges or underage fee). https://www.enterprise.com/car_rental/deeplinkmap.do?bid=001&confirmnum =R0PFDT&lastname=McNeill&cnty=US&language=EN =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 11:36:32 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Grommet supplier From: "Eric_Kallio" I have been searching through the normal places for the grommet type thing Ed Hayden used to get the 3 light speed ignition wires through the baffling to get under the plenum. The picture attached is from Deems website, and shows the part I am looking for. Eric Kallio N518RV wiring and panel installation Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=279632#279632 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/ignition_wire_pass_through_662.jpg ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 12:07:18 PM PST US From: "DLM" Subject: RE: RV10-List: FW: Confirmed: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservation The difference was $45; enough for a night in the heated hangar. The irony is that stating that you are EAA member gets a 50% increase in price. The key seems to be if the FBO is getting a cut of the rental. At CDC, FBO and terminal are 100 or so feet apart. I found one in So Cal where the nearby off airport site was considerably cheaper than anything on the airport including a pick up at the FBO of an enterprise car. The nearby off airport sites usually will pick and allow drop at the airport. Always carry a copy of the confirming email with you. _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don McDonald Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 11:24 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: FW: Confirmed: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservation If I understand this correctly... it was $76 cheaper renting AT the airport???? Always ck both, because we found the exact opposite to be true. In North Vegas, also Enterprise, we saved by renting form them 3 mile from the airport....and they still came and picked us up. Who knows... I guess the moral is ck both Don McDonald --- On Fri, 1/1/10, DLM wrote: From: DLM Subject: RV10-List: FW: Confirmed: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservation Check this reservation made as unknown individual. Note the $45 decrease in price for same rental. The FBO is adjacent to the airport terminal. -----Original Message----- From: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservations [ mailto:onlinereservations@enterprise.com] Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 9:27 AM Subject: Confirmed: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservation Dear David McNeill, Thank you for choosing Enterprise. We look forward to seeing you on Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 10:00 am. If you didn't print your confirmation when you reserved your car, please print this Email or record your confirmation number. You may need it when you pick up your rental. Your rental information is summarized below. P.S. Remember us when you're renting in town. Enterprise is always nearby at more than 6,500 neighborhood locations. ----------------------- RESERVATION INFORMATION ----------------------- Confirmation Number: R0PFDT Name: McNeill, David Pick Up Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010 at 10:00 am Drop Off Date: Monday, January 18, 2010 at 10:00 am Rental Office Address and Phone Number: CEDAR CITY AP IN TERM 2560 AVIATION WAY CEDAR CITY, UT 84720-8327 Tel.: (435) 865-1435 Office Hours for the week of: January 11, 2010 Monday 8:30 am 6:00 pm Tuesday 8:30 am 6:00 pm Wednesday 8:30 am 6:00 pm Thursday 8:30 am 6:00 pm Friday 8:30 am 6:00 pm Saturday 9:00 am Noon Sunday CLOSED Car and Rate Information: Intermediate Pontiac G5, Nissan Sentra, Toyota Corolla or similar 62.68 USD (2 Days @ 31.34) 1.34 USD (VEHICLE LICENSE FEE) 64.02 USD (Subtotal) 6.40 USD (AIRPORT ACCESS FEE) 6.06 USD (SALES TAX) Total charges 76.48 USD NOTE: Pricing does not include coverage. ------------------------- ENTERPRISE PICK-UP POLICY ------------------------- PICK-UP OR DELIVERY SERVICE IS AVAILABLE AT YOUR GENERAL AVIATION AIRPORT. - AFTER BOOKING A RESERVATION PLEASE CALL THE LOCAL RENTAL OFFICE TO ARRANGE FOR SHUTTLE SERVICE. - GEOGRAPHIC RESTRICTIONS MAY APPLY. ------------------------- ENTERPRISE MILEAGE POLICY ------------------------- MILEAGE IS UNLIMITED WHEN VEHICLE REMAINS IN THE RENTING STATE OR BORDERING STATES INCLUDING CALIFORNIA. IF TRAVELING OUTSIDE OF THOSE STATES, MILEAGE IS CHARGED AT 200 MILES FREE PER DAY, 1400 MILES PER WEEK, & 2500 MILES PER MONTH, AND .20 FOR EACH ADDITIONAL MILE, FOR THE ENTIRE RENTAL. --------------------- ENTERPRISE AGE POLICY --------------------- ALL DRIVERS MUST BE 21 YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER. RENTERS 21 THROUGH 24 YEARS OF AGE MAY ONLY RENT ECONOMY THROUGH FULLSIZE CARS. ----------------------------- ENTERPRISE AFTER HOURS POLICY ----------------------------- PLEASE LOCK CAR DOORS AND THEN PLACE KEYS IN THE KEY DROP BOX. 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(Note: Modifying your location, date, or time may result in changes to your rates, taxes, surcharges or underage fee). https://www.enterprise.com/car_rental/deeplinkmap.do?bid=001&confirmnum=R0PF DT&lastname=McNeill&cnty=US&language=EN _blank rel=nofollow>www.aeroelectric.com /" target=_blank rel=nofollow>www.buildersbooks.com =_blank rel=nofollow>www.homebuilthelp.com nk rel=nofollow>www.howtocrimp.com blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/contribution get=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List =nofollow>http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 12:59:38 PM PST US From: Linn Walters Subject: Re: RV10-List: Grommet supplier Page 280 of the AA catalog has a lousy picture so I don't know if it's the same type. Linn Eric_Kallio wrote: > > I have been searching through the normal places for the grommet type thing Ed Hayden used to get the 3 light speed ignition wires through the baffling to get under the plenum. The picture attached is from Deems website, and shows the part I am looking for. > > Eric Kallio > N518RV wiring and panel installation > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=279632#279632 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/ignition_wire_pass_through_662.jpg > > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 01:03:43 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Grommet supplier From: ricksked@cox.net Eric That's a ignition wire grommet available from Spruce under engine ignition accessories Rick S. ------Original Message------ From: Eric_Kallio Sender: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Jan 1, 2010 11:35 AM Subject: RV10-List: Grommet supplier I have been searching through the normal places for the grommet type thing Ed Hayden used to get the 3 light speed ignition wires through the baffling to get under the plenum. The picture attached is from Deems website, and shows the part I am looking for. Eric Kallio N518RV wiring and panel installation Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=279632#279632 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/ignition_wire_pass_through_662.jpg Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 09:10:18 PM PST US From: "Bill Schlatterer" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone Tim, is there any app like FF3 that will allow you to print out the information to a wireless printer? It would be nice to be able to print a hard copy of a few of the approach plates occasionally and a piece of an enroute chart. Is that something that will ever or never happen with the iPhone? I love this thing,... And FF3!! Bill S 7a stilllll finishing - 32 degrees in the hanger tomorrow :-( -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 12:28 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone It will not do it automatically. You have to sellect which features you want caches for which states, but then they are cached until deleted or replaced. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation jesse@saintaviation.com 352-427-0285 Sent from my iPhone On Jan 1, 2010, at 12:17 PM, "lbgjb10" wrote: > > If you are planning a trip from A-B, and using FF 3, will it > 'automatically' download the maps you need + approach plates etc, or > do you have to manually download the maps, plates etc. And then do > you have to 'save' them also?? Happy New Year to everyone. larry b > > -------- > Larry and Gayle N104LG > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=279619#279619 > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 09:36:38 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone That's a tough one. I think maybe there are some hacks out there to print from an iphone, (maybe), but I don't know for sure. Your best bet for the approach plates would be to just look them up online using AOPA or AirNav, or anything else, and then print them I guess. I use Voyager for that, just because it creates a PDF pack with all your route and Wx information and approaches and things like that, and you can print selected parts then to paper. I've never seen anything that does a good job printing a piece of an enroute chart though. My thoughts are, if you need that stuff bigger, the best bet is to use something like a Tablet PC like I've been using for tracking myself over enroute charts. Then you get the big screen. Electronic is such a nice way to go, but I understand why with the iphone's smaller screen it wouldn't be ideal....it's nice having a tablet along for those times. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD Bill Schlatterer wrote: > > Tim, is there any app like FF3 that will allow you to print out the > information to a wireless printer? It would be nice to be able to print a > hard copy of a few of the approach plates occasionally and a piece of an > enroute chart. Is that something that will ever or never happen with the > iPhone? > > I love this thing,... And FF3!! > > Bill S > 7a stilllll finishing - 32 degrees in the hanger tomorrow :-( > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint > Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 12:28 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone > > > It will not do it automatically. You have to sellect which features you > want caches for which states, but then they are cached until deleted or > replaced. > > Jesse Saint > Saint Aviation > jesse@saintaviation.com > 352-427-0285 > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 1, 2010, at 12:17 PM, "lbgjb10" wrote: > >> >> If you are planning a trip from A-B, and using FF 3, will it >> 'automatically' download the maps you need + approach plates etc, or >> do you have to manually download the maps, plates etc. And then do >> you have to 'save' them also?? Happy New Year to everyone. larry b >> >> -------- >> Larry and Gayle N104LG >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=279619#279619 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 09:56:24 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Aileron Counterbalance Holes From: efdsteve@AOL.COM I took a file that has a curve on one side that matches the curvature of the I.D. of the tube and slid it into the aileron counterbalance tube, th en just slid the file back and forth until the burrs were off. Steve Weinstock 40230 -----Original Message----- From: Shawn Moon Sent: Wed, Dec 30, 2009 2:07 pm Subject: RV10-List: Aileron Counterbalance Holes For all of those who when the slow build route on the wings, how did you deburr the A-1009 aileron counterbalance holes? For the life of me I can 't figure out a good way to do it. I'm sure it needs to be done as the st ainless steel will eat away at the rivets pretty quickly. Ideas? --Shawn ======================== =========== - -= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- -= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) - -= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. 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If so, then it's doable from the iP. I always just print from my computer. There is a way to download a chart & print it, but you have to buy it. I did it once, but a 8.5x11 sheet didn't seem very useful for a chart, at least to me. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation jesse@saintaviation.com 352-427-0285 Sent from my iPhone On Jan 2, 2010, at 12:35 AM, Tim Olson wrote: > > That's a tough one. I think maybe there are some hacks out there > to print from an iphone, (maybe), but I don't know for sure. > Your best bet for the approach plates would be to just look them > up online using AOPA or AirNav, or anything else, and then print > them I guess. I use Voyager for that, just because it creates a > PDF pack with all your route and Wx information and approaches and > things like that, and you can print selected parts then to paper. > I've never seen anything that does a good job printing a piece of > an enroute chart though. > > My thoughts are, if you need that stuff bigger, the best bet is > to use something like a Tablet PC like I've been using for tracking > myself over enroute charts. Then you get the big screen. Electronic > is such a nice way to go, but I understand why with the iphone's > smaller screen it wouldn't be ideal....it's nice having a tablet > along for those times. > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD > > > Bill Schlatterer wrote: >> > >> Tim, is there any app like FF3 that will allow you to print out the >> information to a wireless printer? It would be nice to be able to >> print a >> hard copy of a few of the approach plates occasionally and a piece >> of an >> enroute chart. Is that something that will ever or never happen >> with the >> iPhone? >> I love this thing,... And FF3!! >> Bill S >> 7a stilllll finishing - 32 degrees in the hanger tomorrow :-( >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse >> Saint >> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 12:28 PM >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Foreflight Mobile 3.0 for iPhone >> >> It will not do it automatically. You have to sellect which >> features you >> want caches for which states, but then they are cached until >> deleted or >> replaced. >> Jesse Saint >> Saint Aviation >> jesse@saintaviation.com >> 352-427-0285 >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Jan 1, 2010, at 12:17 PM, "lbgjb10" wrote: >>> >>> If you are planning a trip from A-B, and using FF 3, will it >>> 'automatically' download the maps you need + approach plates etc, >>> or do you have to manually download the maps, plates etc. And >>> then do you have to 'save' them also?? Happy New Year to >>> everyone. larry b >>> >>> -------- >>> Larry and Gayle N104LG >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=279619#279619 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > > ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 10:27:18 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Total Age From: "partner14" A month ago, I flew over to another airport and I picked up an ex relative, her daughter, and her neighbor and took them for a short ride. After I got home I added up the total of the passengers age, including me.... 300.... and I was the youngest. Anyone top that? Happy New Year Everyone.... you to Rick and John! Don McDonald -------- Don A. 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Use "binary" data transfer methods. * RV10-Archive.digest.complete.Z - Same as the RV10-Archive.digest.complete file above, but in UNIX compress format. Use "binary" data transfer methods. Download Via FTP ---------------- The archive file is available via anonymous FTP from ftp.matronics.com in the "/pub/Archives" directory. It is updated daily and can be found in a number of formats as described above. (All filenames are case sensitive.) ftp://ftp.matronics.com/pub/Archives Download Via Web ---------------- The archives are also available via a web listing. These can be found toward the bottom of the following web page: http://www.matronics.com/archives ****************************************** *** Complete List Web Archive Browsing *** ****************************************** All messages posted to the RV10-List are also available using the Email List Archive Browsing feature. With this utility, all messages in the List are indexed, and individual sub-archives can be browsed. http://www.matronics.com/archive/archive-index.cgi?RV10 ***************************************** **** High-Speed Archive Search Engine *** ***************************************** You can use the custom, high-performance Matronics Email List Search Engine to quickly locate and browse any messages that have been posted to the List. The Engine allows the user to easily search any of the currently available List archives. http://www.matronics.com/search **************************** *** File and Photo Share *** **************************** With the Matronics Email List File and Photo Share you can share pictures and other data with members of the List without having to forward a copy of it to everyone. To share your Files and Photos, simply email them to: pictures@matronics.com !! ==> Please including the following information with each submission: 1) Email Lists that they are related to. 2) Your Full Name. 3) Your Email Address. 4) One line Subject description. 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic. 6-x) One-line Description of each photo or file Prior to public availability of the files and photos, each will be scanned for viruses. Please also note that the process of making the files and photos available on the web site is a pseudo-manual process, and I try to process them every few days. Following the availability of the new Photoshare, an email message will be sent to the Email Lists enumerated in 1) above indicating that the new Share is available and what the direct URL to it is. For a current list of available Photoshares, have a look at the Main Index Page: http://www.matronics.com/photoshare ************************** *** List Archive CDROM *** ************************** A complete Matronics Email List Archive CD is available that contains all of the archives since the beginning of each of the Lists. The archives for all of the Lists are included on the CD along with a freeware search engine written by a list member. The CD is burned the day you order it and will contain archive received up to the last minute. They make great gifts! http://www.matronics.com/ArchiveCDROM ********************************** *** List Support Contributions *** ********************************** The Matronics Lists are run *completely* through the support of it members. You won't find any PopUpAds, flashing Banner ads, or any other form of annoying commercialism on either the Email Messages or the List web pages associated with the Matronics Email Lists. 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Contributions are accepted throughout the year, and if you've just subscribed, feel free to make a Contribution when you've settled in. The website for making SSL Secure Contributions is listed below. There are a variety of payment methods including Visa and MasterCard, PayPal, and sending a personal check. If you enjoy and value the List, won't you make a Contribution today to support its continued operation? http://www.matronics.com/contributions Thank you! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ****************************************************************************** RV10-List Usage Guidelines ****************************************************************************** The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the RV10-List. You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein. Failure to use the RV10-List in the manner described below may result in the removal of the subscribers from the List. RV10-List Policy Statement The purpose of the RV10-List is to provide a forum of discussion for things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established: - Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc. - THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it. - Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and responses. - Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address, aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary space in the archive. - DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the web page or FAQ first. - If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it easy to find threads in the archive. - When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive can not be overstated! - When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the "reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your response to the original poster. You might have to actively address your response with the original poster's email address. - DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large. - When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly contribute something valuable. - Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing. - Occasional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularly subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by List members promoting their respective products or items for sale should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to everyone, including those who provide products to the entire community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists. ------- [This is an automated posting.] do not archive ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 11:13:22 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RV10-List: Official RV10-List Usage Guidelines Dear Listers, Please read over the RV10-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete RV10-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the following URL: http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/RV10-List.FAQ.html Thank you, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ****************************************************************************** RV10-List Usage Guidelines ****************************************************************************** The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the RV10-List. You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein. Failure to use the RV10-List in the manner described below may result in the removal of the subscribers from the List. RV10-List Policy Statement The purpose of the RV10-List is to provide a forum of discussion for things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established: - Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc. - THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it. - Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and responses. - Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address, aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary space in the archive. - DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the web page or FAQ first. - If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it easy to find threads in the archive. - When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive can not be overstated! - When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the "reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your response to the original poster. You might have to actively address your response with the original poster's email address. - DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large. - When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly contribute something valuable. - Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing. - Occasional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularly subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by List members promoting their respective products or items for sale should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to everyone, including those who provide products to the entire community. 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