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1. 06:42 AM - Re: Re: Confirmed: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservation (Tim Olson)
2. 06:51 AM - Trying to Reach Dwayne Wilson (Rhonda Bewley)
3. 08:46 AM - Re: AMSAFE inflatable belts (lbgjb10)
4. 10:58 AM - Overhead console configuration (Strasnuts)
5. 11:40 AM - Re: Overhead map and panel lighting options (Bill Mauledriver Watson)
6. 11:49 AM - Re: Overhead console configuration (Fred Williams, M.D.)
7. 11:53 AM - Re: Overhead console configuration (Tim Olson)
8. 11:59 AM - Re: Overhead console configuration (Bob Leffler)
9. 12:07 PM - Re: Overhead console configuration (Strasnuts)
10. 12:12 PM - Re: Overhead console configuration (Strasnuts)
11. 12:12 PM - Re: Overhead console configuration (Strasnuts)
12. 12:26 PM - Re: Overhead console configuration (Geoff Combs)
13. 12:27 PM - Re: Re: Confirmed: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservation (John Gonzalez)
14. 12:42 PM - Re: Overhead console configuration (Strasnuts)
15. 12:44 PM - Re: Re: Overhead console configuration (Perry, Phil)
16. 12:47 PM - Re: Re: Overhead console configuration (Tim Olson)
17. 12:50 PM - Re: Re: Overhead console configuration (Tim Olson)
18. 12:51 PM - Re: Overhead console configuration (Tim Olson)
19. 01:15 PM - Re: Re: Overhead console configuration (Bob Leffler)
20. 01:19 PM - Re: Re: Overhead console configuration (Geoff Combs)
21. 01:48 PM - Re: Re: Overhead console configuration (Tim Olson)
22. 01:58 PM - Re: Overhead console configuration (Bill Mauledriver Watson)
23. 02:03 PM - Re: Re: Overhead console configuration (ricksked@cox.net)
24. 02:15 PM - Re: Re: Overhead console configuration (Seano)
25. 04:51 PM - Re: Re: Overhead console configuration (Pascal)
26. 05:28 PM - Re: Re: Overhead console configuration (David Maib)
27. 06:11 PM - Panel Planning (Perry, Phil)
28. 06:17 PM - Re: Re: Overhead console configuration (Bill Mauledriver Watson)
29. 06:32 PM - Re: Overhead console configuration (Bill Mauledriver Watson)
30. 06:42 PM - Re: Panel Planning (g.combs)
31. 06:43 PM - Re: Overhead console configuration (Tim Olson)
32. 07:00 PM - Re: Overhead console configuration (Bill Mauledriver Watson)
33. 07:28 PM - RV10 Travel (partner14)
34. 07:44 PM - Re: Overhead console configuration (Perry, Phil)
35. 08:40 PM - Re: Overhead console configuration (Jim Berry)
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| Subject: | Re: Confirmed: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservation |
:) Yeah, I was tongue in cheek. I've always heard the same...flying
is about the same actual risk level as motorcycling. Now, if you're
talking in California, riding LA's highways, there might be a
huge increase in risk there...even from the perspective of flying
bullets. :)
I'm trying to instill in the girls the same attitude I have
about life....there are MANY things that are very risky to
do. Lots of those things are some of the most fun a person
can have. So, take part in the fun, live life to the fullest,
just do everything with common sense and care. Parachute
from the plane, bungee jump from the bridge, just make sure
you packed the chute well and it's a good chute, and that the
bungee cord is the right size and in good shape and secured
well. No holding back...if you think it looks fun and cool,
the don't be some idiot who stands idly by watching, get in
there and do it! I find it exhilarating to grab the throttle
on a snowmobile going across a lake and wind it out. Sure,
50 or 60mph is comfortable, but 100 really gets you breathing.
But, I'm also the one who runs the length slower first to
make sure there aren't any big hazards.
Road bikes? I've owned many. I have one now. I got
helmets for the whole family and the girls just love going
for a ride. But, I ride like every car out there is GOING
to hit me, so I pretty much expect it. It keeps you
alive longer to be defensive. Same with airplanes...if you
expect to have the engine fail on takeoff, you'll be
better prepared than if you just make the assumption that
just because it's always run well, it will run well today.
IMC flying is the same way. Can you just stay VFR all
the time? Sure. Is it safer? Well, I'd argue that
it both can be and isn't....some times you're taking less
risk to get way up high and spend 4 hours overflying the
weather and bumps and low ceilings. But then again, you
could just cut out 50% of the days in the year and only
fly when it's clear and 100. On my last trip, I would
have been safer flying above the snowy weather, rather than
staying below the clouds, where it was snowing and bumpy.
But, I was legal VFR.
Then there's building an RV-10.... We can build an RV-10,
and if we follow the plans, we may, or may not build a
less risky airplane. I read things on the forum from time
to time that make me cringe, but everyone has their own
standard. I would say that the RV-10 in general, in the
hands of the right pilot, is a very low risk plane. But in
the hands of the wrong pilot or builder who did just the
wrong mods, it could be a very high risk plane. The
pilot/builder is the weak link. There are many who won't
fly in homebuilts. I just had a friend tell me over the
holidays how a relative of theirs, airline pilot, looked
at my web page with him...and commented how he'd never
fly in a plane like that...a homebuilt....far to risky.
Yeah, that's ignorance, but I know RV-10's that I wouldn't
fly in, too...'cuz I know how they were built.
Everything is risky, but I choose to participate and just
try to minimize the risk as much as possible....life is
more fun that way. ;)
Attached is a cute picture of the day my nephew learned some
valuable motorcycle lessons in when to use more brake,
and less throttle, and...lean into the turn. We got a good
kick out of it...but it took about 6 oil changes to get
it back to good again. :)
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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Scott Schmidt wrote:
> Tim, the girls will be fine. It will be the guys they are dating that
> pick them up for prom on the bullet bike that you have to worry about.
>
> I have heard many times that motorcycles and airplanes are almost
> identical on the risk meter when it comes to fatalities.
> Training and practice is the biggest factor for both to decrease the
> risks. I have over 100,000 miles on my motorcycles and multiple 24
> hours endurance rides, all safe.
> The MSF course and advanced courses are great for motorcycle training
> but the best way to learn is to take a 10 day trip riding a few hundred
> miles a day around our great country.
> The same really is true for flying. When we get our private pilots
> license we are very dangerous. We then learn more by going on cross
> country trips and landing at many different airports and practicing our
> flight and weather planning.
>
> So I'd say, throw that bike in the plane with your parachute, ride to a
> big bridge, jump off the bridge, ride back to the airport and fly home:)
>
> Scott Schmidt
> scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com>
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Tue, January 5, 2010 8:50:42 PM
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Re: Confirmed: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservation
>
> <mailto:Tim@myrv10.com>>
>
> Oh my goodness!! And I got the girls dirt bikes this
> year! I didn't know they were dangerous! :)
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
>
>
> John Gonzalez wrote:
> > My neighbor is a chief with the fire department. My older friend is a
> retired LAPD VIP motorcaid cop who also trained othe cops in the
> motorschool.
> > The fireman said that only 100% of them go down. The LAPD guy said he
> would kill me if he ever caught me on a road bike...and he laid his down
> one time.
> > What happens when you put a motorcycle inside an airplane???
> >
> > Be careful!
> >
> > Who will end up flying that plane back home?
> >
> >
> >
> > > Subject: RV10-List: Re: Confirmed: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservation
> > > From: SBaircraft@yahoo.com <mailto:SBaircraft@yahoo.com>
> > > Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 15:41:02 -0800
> > > To: rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
> > >
> <SBaircraft@yahoo.com <mailto:SBaircraft@yahoo.com>>
> > >
> > > Reservations? Rental Cars? I usually just bring my motorcycle. The
> RV-10 is a nice airplane but it only takes me to other airports. RV-10 +
> Motorcycle lets me go anywhere I want without any hassles. :D
> > >
> > > www.MotorcyclePilot.com <http://www.MotorcyclePilot.com>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Read this topic online
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| Subject: | Trying to Reach Dwayne Wilson |
Dwayne:
You called me this morning. I have something that I thought of that you
might be interested in. Or, if someone has a phone or email, I would
really appreciate it!
Rhonda Barrett-Bewley
Barrett Precision Engines, Inc.
2870-B N. Sheridan Rd.
Tulsa, OK 74115
(918) 835-1089 phone
(918) 835-1754 fax
www.barrettprecisionengines.com
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| Subject: | Re: AMSAFE inflatable belts |
If you're talking about airbag harnesses I flew with the shoulder 'air bags' on
a cirrus and found them to be the most uncomfortable harnesses i've ever used--including
many military planes. i asked the cirrus rep flying with me and he
said he would take them off in flight because they were uncomfortable!!! on
the other hand i wished we could put the parachute on the -10 like cirrus has.
larry
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| Subject: | Overhead console configuration |
I need some pro-builders, that's all of you on the list, to help me
with my lights on the overhead. Pilots that have flown the 10 or
pilots that have flown a lot of other planes I need your advice. That
includes you Tim and Robin. I want all feedback I won't get my
feelers hurt. I don't want to punch unnecessary holes in my overhead
console. I have two configurations below but not limited to these.
Also, I will make some bezels for the LED's.
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead map and panel lighting options |
I think I'm going to do the same. Sounds like you didn't use the base
but just threaded them directly with added flox for reinforcement. Got it.
Did you get the red ones? That's my plan. They are basic panel
illumination for anything unlit (not much that is).
The Aveos look sweet but a little too pricey. Some sort of cheap white
button unit like the Vans unit sounds right. I may just go for a
separate battery-only unit. for the backup. Then I'd have 2 dimmable
red units and an undimmed white unit.
That little console is working out nice. Nutserts work well for the
screwing. The 430W attenna goes in perfectly. Good position on the
plane, covered by the mini-console nicely. Good solution overall. I
may try to post a pic or two to the list.
Thanks.
Dave Saylor wrote:
> I put one each of Stein's swivel LEDs in the front edge or our
> console. I had to go back later and really slather up the securing
> nuts with flox to make them stay tight. No problems now, though.
> Nice and tight. They're dimmed by pots on the panel.
>
> I recently put one of Van's $9 white LEDs pointing straight down in
> the same console. It runs off a little overhead toggle switch. I
> understand it'll run off a 9V battery, and it would be cool to have
> another position on the switch to select that, you know, just in case...
>
> Dave Saylor
> AirCrafters LLC
> 140 Aviation Way
> Watsonville, CA 95076
> 831-722-9141 Shop
> 831-750-0284 Cell
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Bill Mauledriver Watson
> <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com <mailto:MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>> wrote:
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> <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com <mailto:MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>>
>
> I'm looking for some suggestions for overhead lighting. I have
> Dave Saylor's mini console and would like to choose some lights to
> install in it.
> Stein and ACS have some swivel LED lights and they look good.
> Perihelion goosenecks look interesting but not sure how they
> really look.
>
> I assume dimming them would be a good thing but not mandatory. Or
> switches are required.
>
> I'm thinking a white light and a separate red or blue would the
> solution. I've flown with red but never with blue. Not sure what
> the trade-offs are.
>
> BTW, I'm installing the 430W GPS antenna directly over the
> mini-console with the cable going thru the center post. I'm also
> in the process of installing 2 more GPS antenna (GRT & ADI) on the
> windshield lip so that they will clear any paint. They will be
> angled slightly forward but I'm thinking that will work well. All
> of those cables plus power for the lights seems to be fitting in
> the center post.
>
> What do you think?
>
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead console configuration |
Strasnuts
First off, it looks good either way. I have a Accuracy avionics
overhead. I have a couple small LEDs fairly far forward, up by the four
nuts holding the center bar. I have done some night flying recently and
it seems that the sun visors will sometimes obstruct the light access to
the panel. Farther back may be better, for what it's worth.
Dr Fred
515FW
200 hrs.
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead console configuration |
I'd really recommend the dome light for up front, and one
in the back if you wish as an option. The one in front
is very handy. My click-lights work in the back OK for
the kids, but if you wire up one, you could just as easily
wire up the second for the rear seat.
Then, for spot/moveable LED's, I'd really recommend that
the front have TWO of them, and that they be moveable.
I find that I could even use 3 if you want full lighting
on everything up front. What I usually do is when we're
in cruise, I dim everything as much as possible, but turn
my 2 overhead red lights so that I can see all the panel
switches well, and the co-pilot side is on the throttle
quadrant area. I leave the side by the breakers only
dimly lit...nothing aimed at them. In an ideal world,
I would have a left, right, and center. But you'll
want all switches to have some sort of illumination
to make them visible at night. don't find that a
glareshield light would do a fantastic job of lighting
switches down on the bottom of the panel without it being
really bright, and I don't like any bright lighting in the
cockpit at night. I dim the EFIS's, and everything else
to the minimum.
So, with that in mind, I like the photo with the 2
eyeball lights best. You may want eyeballs in the rear,
too. I put some lighting back by the rear air vents
that seems to be OK for the girls....although I
should probably make it brighter than what have today.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
Strasnuts wrote:
>
> I need some pro-builders, that's all of you on the list, to help me
> with my lights on the overhead. Pilots that have flown the 10 or
> pilots that have flown a lot of other planes I need your advice. That
> includes you Tim and Robin. I want all feedback I won't get my
> feelers hurt. I don't want to punch unnecessary holes in my overhead
> console. I have two configurations below but not limited to these.
> Also, I will make some bezels for the LED's.
>
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| Subject: | Overhead console configuration |
Sean,
Are those your only lighting on the overhead?
The reason I ask, is that I really like what Geoff did in his overhead. He
has an eyeball type of light used for map/task lighting for each passenger.
He has two of Stein's cockpit lights (B-12) mounted on the forward portion
of the overhead to wash the instrument panel, and one the dome lights that
Van's sells in the front and back seats, and two in the baggage area for
maintenance/cleaning.
I think this strategy of three different types of lighting is pretty
effective.
I'm sure you can talk Geoff into sharing a photo of his installation.
Ironically, he doesn't have one of his own overheads. That project didn't
start until his was almost ready to fly.
bob
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Strasnuts
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 1:58 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Overhead console configuration
I need some pro-builders, that's all of you on the list, to help me
with my lights on the overhead. Pilots that have flown the 10 or
pilots that have flown a lot of other planes I need your advice. That
includes you Tim and Robin. I want all feedback I won't get my
feelers hurt. I don't want to punch unnecessary holes in my overhead
console. I have two configurations below but not limited to these.
Also, I will make some bezels for the LED's.
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead console configuration |
I may send back the Aveoflash eyeballs. They are really cool how they work but
they are big and need protection tape like that on an Iphone screen. I was wondering
too if the rear passengers should have a red light also so the pilot
doesn't get blinded by the white light. I like the input so far, I may still
get two red LED lights from Stein to put on the forward slants on the overhead.
How many lights is too many? I will have two eyebeams two big LED white lights,
two red leds from Stein's AND a baggage light.
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead console configuration |
Oh ya, I also might also buy this and cut out the pocket so I can fit it inside
the console and feed it video from a double din from the panel. This way it
won't stick out of the console unless it is being used. Any other ideas on video
screens? I heard some people say they are in the way of the rear passengers
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_077RM890W/Valor-RM-890W.html?tp=77
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Oh ya, I also might also buy this and cut out the pocket so I can fit it inside
the console and feed it video from a double din from the panel. This way it
won't stick out of the console unless it is being used. Any other ideas on video
screens? I heard some people say they are in the way of the rear passengers.
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| Subject: | Overhead console configuration |
Sean here is a picture of what I did. So far I really like the setup.
Each
passenger has there own LED reading light eyeball from Stein. Small but
works good. Those have there own on-off switch next to them. I then have
the
small silver dome lights in the cockpit area, passenger area and then 2
in
the baggage area as my dome lights. Last I have the Blue LED adjustable
lights that I can shine on the panel or turn down to the pilot or
copilot.
Although I do not have a lot of time in the airplane this seems to work
well. I like the idea of putting as many of the lights in the removable
panels so if for some reason a really cool light comes out that you have
to
have you do not have hole to fill in the overhead just replace the panel
insert or fill it and repaint. The only problem I have is I cannot get
my
head sets on the head set holders in the front as planned. The lights I
placed to close in. I had them mounted before I decided to put the head
Set hangar in. All you need to do is move them out as far as possible.
Hope this helps
Geoff
Geoff Combs
President
Aerosport Modeling & Design
8090 Howe Industrial Parkway
Canal Winchester, Ohio 43110
614-834-5227p
614-834-5230f
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 3:01 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Overhead console configuration
Sean,
Are those your only lighting on the overhead?
The reason I ask, is that I really like what Geoff did in his overhead.
He
has an eyeball type of light used for map/task lighting for each
passenger.
He has two of Stein's cockpit lights (B-12) mounted on the forward
portion
of the overhead to wash the instrument panel, and one the dome lights
that
Van's sells in the front and back seats, and two in the baggage area for
maintenance/cleaning.
I think this strategy of three different types of lighting is pretty
effective.
I'm sure you can talk Geoff into sharing a photo of his installation.
Ironically, he doesn't have one of his own overheads. That project
didn't
start until his was almost ready to fly.
bob
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Strasnuts
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 1:58 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Overhead console configuration
I need some pro-builders, that's all of you on the list, to help me
with my
lights on the overhead. Pilots that have flown the 10 or
pilots that have flown a lot of other planes I need your advice. That
includes you Tim and Robin. I want all feedback I won't get my
feelers hurt. I don't want to punch unnecessary holes in my overhead
console. I have two configurations below but not limited to these.
Also, I will make some bezels for the LED's.
--------
Cust. #40936
RV-10 SB Fuselage
N801VR reserved
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| Subject: | Re: Confirmed: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservation |
Motorcycles are safe when the are ridden with respect and without other veh
icles around them. The problem are the other motorcyclist and car drivers t
hat crash into you or infront of you.
From: scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Confirmed: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservation
Tim=2C the girls will be fine. It will be the guys they are dating that pi
ck them up for prom on the bullet bike that you have to worry about.
I have heard many times that motorcycles and airplanes are almost identical
on the risk meter when it comes to fatalities.
Training and practice is the biggest factor for both to decrease the risks.
I have over 100=2C000 miles on my motorcycles and multiple 24 hours endur
ance rides=2C all safe.
The MSF course and advanced courses are great for motorcycle training but t
he best way to learn is to take a 10 day trip riding a few hundred miles a
day around our great country.
The same really is true for flying. When we get our private pilots license
we are very dangerous. We then learn more by going on cross country trips
and landing at many different airports and practicing our flight and weath
er planning.
So I'd say=2C throw that bike in the plane with your parachute=2C ride to a
big bridge=2C jump off the bridge=2C ride back to the airport and fly home
:)
Scott Schmidtscottmschmidt@yahoo.com
From: Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com>
Sent: Tue=2C January 5=2C 2010 8:50:42 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Confirmed: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservation
Oh my goodness!! And I got the girls dirt bikes this
year! I didn't know they were dangerous! :)
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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John Gonzalez wrote:
> My neighbor is a chief with the fire department. My older friend is a ret
ired LAPD VIP motorcaid cop who also trained othe cops in the motorschool.
> The fireman said that only 100% of them go down. The LAPD guy said he wou
ld kill me if he ever caught me on a road bike...and he laid his down one t
ime.
> What happens when you put a motorcycle inside an airplane???
>
> Be careful!
>
> Who will end up flying that plane back home?
>
>
>
> > Subject: RV10-List: Re: Confirmed: Enterprise Rent-A-Car Reservation
> > From: SBaircraft@yahoo.com
> > Date: Tue=2C 5 Jan 2010 15:41:02 -0800
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> >
>
> >
> > Reservations? Rental Cars? I usually just bring my motorcycle. The RV-
10 is a nice airplane but it only takes me to other airports. RV-10 + Motor
cycle lets me go anywhere I want without any hassles. :D
> >
> > www.MotorcyclePilot.com
> >
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That's nice Geoff, I like the switches for the little eyeballs. I want to make
my eyebeams work but don't know where to put them. I'm re-installing the canopy
right now so I can sit inside and see if the eyebeams can move far enough
forward to the panel. I think I will add the eyeballs you have with the switches
for each passenger.
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead console configuration |
I really wanted the Aveo's but your experience has started to turn me
off. (... and save me money)
Now I'm leaning toward Stein's lights (2x) front, (2x) rear, 1(x)
baggage. I'm planning to us a off/on-dimmer in the front for each light
and the same thing for the rear seats. That makes a total of four
off/on-dimmers for local control.
But, I'm also planning to install a master (read "Kiddie") switch for
the rear lights. So I can shut them off up front and don't have to
worry about a kid flipping on lights unless I want them to. If I were a
kid, I'd do it just to make dad turn around and slap me... I know how I
thought.
The baggage light will have its own pair of switches.
1) Local in the baggage compartment to help during
loading/unloading.
2) Cockpit switch: So mom can crawl back there in flight and dig
through bags for diapers, bottles, and band-aids. :)
Phil
-----Original Message-----
From: Strasnuts [mailto:sean@braunandco.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 2:07 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Overhead console configuration
I may send back the Aveoflash eyeballs. They are really cool how they
work but they are big and need protection tape like that on an Iphone
screen. I was wondering too if the rear passengers should have a red
light also so the pilot doesn't get blinded by the white light. I like
the input so far, I may still get two red LED lights from Stein to put
on the forward slants on the overhead. How many lights is too many? I
will have two eyebeams two big LED white lights, two red leds from
Stein's AND a baggage light.
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead console configuration |
You'll want the rear seaters to have SOMETHING other than
a bright light. We won't let the kids use any bright
lights in the back during flight. Red, Blue, whatever...
you won't want it bright. Having those 2 Stein lights
forward sounds like a good idea...then you can do
whatever you want overhead. I find I can reach up and turn
those forward lights to my lap if I need them....so other than
the white dome, I don't have anything separate, and don't need
it. I keep a 2 color (white/red) flashlight by each pilot
seat too.
A baggage light will be handy. I used a click-light back
there too. One less pair of wires to run,and when
you're unloading you don't need to leave a master on
or worry about leaving a light on if you directly tie
it to a battery bus. Click lights can be very handy since
they're bus independent.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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Strasnuts wrote:
>
> I may send back the Aveoflash eyeballs. They are really cool how
> they work but they are big and need protection tape like that on an
> Iphone screen. I was wondering too if the rear passengers should
> have a red light also so the pilot doesn't get blinded by the white
> light. I like the input so far, I may still get two red LED lights
> from Stein to put on the forward slants on the overhead. How many
> lights is too many? I will have two eyebeams two big LED white
> lights, two red leds from Stein's AND a baggage light.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead console configuration |
For most people, overhead video screens won't be very comfortable
to view. Especially kids. It's just plain too high up. I'd
skip it and find something you can lower. Even monitors that
you can hold in your hands and plug in up top would be better.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
Strasnuts wrote:
>
> Oh ya, I also might also buy this and cut out the pocket so I can fit
> it inside the console and feed it video from a double din from the
> panel. This way it won't stick out of the console unless it is being
> used. Any other ideas on video screens? I heard some people say
> they are in the way of the rear passengers
>
> http://www.crutchfield.com/p_077RM890W/Valor-RM-890W.html?tp=77
>
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead console configuration |
Yeah, now that is excellent.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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Geoff Combs wrote:
> Sean here is a picture of what I did. So far I really like the setup. Each
> passenger has there own LED reading light eyeball from Stein. Small but
> works good. Those have there own on-off switch next to them. I then have the
> small silver dome lights in the cockpit area, passenger area and then 2 in
> the baggage area as my dome lights. Last I have the Blue LED adjustable
> lights that I can shine on the panel or turn down to the pilot or copilot.
> Although I do not have a lot of time in the airplane this seems to work
> well. I like the idea of putting as many of the lights in the removable
> panels so if for some reason a really cool light comes out that you have to
> have you do not have hole to fill in the overhead just replace the panel
> insert or fill it and repaint. The only problem I have is I cannot get my
> head sets on the head set holders in the front as planned. The lights I
> placed to close in. I had them mounted before I decided to put the head
> Set hangar in. All you need to do is move them out as far as possible.
>
> Hope this helps
> Geoff
>
> Geoff Combs
> President
> Aerosport Modeling & Design
> 8090 Howe Industrial Parkway
> Canal Winchester, Ohio 43110
> 614-834-5227p
> 614-834-5230f
> www.aerosportmodeling.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 3:01 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Overhead console configuration
>
>
>
> Sean,
>
> Are those your only lighting on the overhead?
>
> The reason I ask, is that I really like what Geoff did in his overhead. He
> has an eyeball type of light used for map/task lighting for each passenger.
> He has two of Stein's cockpit lights (B-12) mounted on the forward portion
> of the overhead to wash the instrument panel, and one the dome lights that
> Van's sells in the front and back seats, and two in the baggage area for
> maintenance/cleaning.
>
> I think this strategy of three different types of lighting is pretty
> effective.
>
> I'm sure you can talk Geoff into sharing a photo of his installation.
> Ironically, he doesn't have one of his own overheads. That project didn't
> start until his was almost ready to fly.
>
> bob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Strasnuts
> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 1:58 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Overhead console configuration
>
>
> I need some pro-builders, that's all of you on the list, to help me with my
> lights on the overhead. Pilots that have flown the 10 or
> pilots that have flown a lot of other planes I need your advice. That
> includes you Tim and Robin. I want all feedback I won't get my
> feelers hurt. I don't want to punch unnecessary holes in my overhead
> console. I have two configurations below but not limited to these.
> Also, I will make some bezels for the LED's.
>
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Probably more cost effective just to use portable units. I did that in my
SUV. I also bought a couple cheap lcd screens that can be slaved off the
player. The other item to keep in mind is the conversion from dvd to
blu-ray. I'm already a having issues at home. We only buy blue-ray, but
only have one blue ray player at the moment.
For these reasons, I've decided to not installed any permanent entertainment
in the RV-10.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Overhead console configuration
For most people, overhead video screens won't be very comfortable
to view. Especially kids. It's just plain too high up. I'd
skip it and find something you can lower. Even monitors that
you can hold in your hands and plug in up top would be better.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
Strasnuts wrote:
>
> Oh ya, I also might also buy this and cut out the pocket so I can fit
> it inside the console and feed it video from a double din from the
> panel. This way it won't stick out of the console unless it is being
> used. Any other ideas on video screens? I heard some people say
> they are in the way of the rear passengers
>
> http://www.crutchfield.com/p_077RM890W/Valor-RM-890W.html?tp=77
>
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead console configuration |
One other thing I forgot to mention was I used TCW's intelligent lighting
system and it is awesome. My Dome lights can be dimmed as well as the front
blue lights. The dimmer is the on-off switch as well. It has the wig wag.
Easy to install. It also dims my switches and what ever else you might need.
Geoff
Geoff Combs
President
Aerosport Modeling & Design
8090 Howe Industrial Parkway
Canal Winchester, Ohio 43110
614-834-5227p
614-834-5230f
www.aerosportmodeling.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Overhead console configuration
You'll want the rear seaters to have SOMETHING other than
a bright light. We won't let the kids use any bright
lights in the back during flight. Red, Blue, whatever...
you won't want it bright. Having those 2 Stein lights
forward sounds like a good idea...then you can do
whatever you want overhead. I find I can reach up and turn those forward
lights to my lap if I need them....so other than the white dome, I don't
have anything separate, and don't need it. I keep a 2 color (white/red)
flashlight by each pilot seat too.
A baggage light will be handy. I used a click-light back
there too. One less pair of wires to run,and when
you're unloading you don't need to leave a master on
or worry about leaving a light on if you directly tie
it to a battery bus. Click lights can be very handy since they're bus
independent.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
Strasnuts wrote:
>
> I may send back the Aveoflash eyeballs. They are really cool how they
> work but they are big and need protection tape like that on an Iphone
> screen. I was wondering too if the rear passengers should have a red
> light also so the pilot doesn't get blinded by the white light. I
> like the input so far, I may still get two red LED lights from Stein
> to put on the forward slants on the overhead. How many lights is too
> many? I will have two eyebeams two big LED white lights, two red leds
> from Stein's AND a baggage light.
>
> -------- Cust. #40936 RV-10 SB Fuselage N801VR reserved
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280407#280407
>
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead console configuration |
Exactly....I've already dumped my old hard drive based players
and got the kids apple ipod touches, which means all the work
I did to make charging accessories for those from plane power
is gone. So for things that change over time, I'd say stay
portable. How many people owned portable VHS players...how'd
you like to have one in your car/plane today? :) DVD's are
not going to be THE thing forever...especially with Blu-Ray
out. So for entertainment electronics, keeping it portable
but coming up with a nice fixed distribution is maybe a good
idea. This annual my plan is to permanently mount my video
splitter, install a couple of rear-seat USB charging jacks,
and find a way to make it so that one kid can plug in their
ipod to standard composite video jacks and have it play
on both portable screens. I can do it right now, but I don't
have the distribution hard mounted, so it's a bag of stuff
to bring along.
Actually, like Scott was talking about, if Apple makes their
tablet PC available soon, that might be a cool thing to use
for in-flight video...just load the sucker up like a big
ipod and then plug the audio in to your intercom.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
Bob Leffler wrote:
>
> Probably more cost effective just to use portable units. I did that in my
> SUV. I also bought a couple cheap lcd screens that can be slaved off the
> player. The other item to keep in mind is the conversion from dvd to
> blu-ray. I'm already a having issues at home. We only buy blue-ray, but
> only have one blue ray player at the moment.
>
> For these reasons, I've decided to not installed any permanent entertainment
> in the RV-10.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 3:34 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Overhead console configuration
>
>
> For most people, overhead video screens won't be very comfortable
> to view. Especially kids. It's just plain too high up. I'd
> skip it and find something you can lower. Even monitors that
> you can hold in your hands and plug in up top would be better.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
>
>
> Strasnuts wrote:
>>
>> Oh ya, I also might also buy this and cut out the pocket so I can fit
>> it inside the console and feed it video from a double din from the
>> panel. This way it won't stick out of the console unless it is being
>> used. Any other ideas on video screens? I heard some people say
>> they are in the way of the rear passengers
>>
>> http://www.crutchfield.com/p_077RM890W/Valor-RM-890W.html?tp=77
>>
>> -------- Cust. #40936 RV-10 SB Fuselage N801VR reserved
>>
>>
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>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280409#280409
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Has anyone used both red and blue lights enough to have a preference?
I've flown with red but never with blue.
Bill
>
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After wandering through CES.....everything you own is now obsolete....some really
coooool stuff
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Overhead console configuration
Exactly....I've already dumped my old hard drive based players
and got the kids apple ipod touches, which means all the work
I did to make charging accessories for those from plane power
is gone. So for things that change over time, I'd say stay
portable. How many people owned portable VHS players...how'd
you like to have one in your car/plane today? :) DVD's are
not going to be THE thing forever...especially with Blu-Ray
out. So for entertainment electronics, keeping it portable
but coming up with a nice fixed distribution is maybe a good
idea. This annual my plan is to permanently mount my video
splitter, install a couple of rear-seat USB charging jacks,
and find a way to make it so that one kid can plug in their
ipod to standard composite video jacks and have it play
on both portable screens. I can do it right now, but I don't
have the distribution hard mounted, so it's a bag of stuff
to bring along.
Actually, like Scott was talking about, if Apple makes their
tablet PC available soon, that might be a cool thing to use
for in-flight video...just load the sucker up like a big
ipod and then plug the audio in to your intercom.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
Bob Leffler wrote:
>
> Probably more cost effective just to use portable units. I did that in my
> SUV. I also bought a couple cheap lcd screens that can be slaved off the
> player. The other item to keep in mind is the conversion from dvd to
> blu-ray. I'm already a having issues at home. We only buy blue-ray, but
> only have one blue ray player at the moment.
>
> For these reasons, I've decided to not installed any permanent entertainment
> in the RV-10.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 3:34 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Overhead console configuration
>
>
> For most people, overhead video screens won't be very comfortable
> to view. Especially kids. It's just plain too high up. I'd
> skip it and find something you can lower. Even monitors that
> you can hold in your hands and plug in up top would be better.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
>
>
> Strasnuts wrote:
>>
>> Oh ya, I also might also buy this and cut out the pocket so I can fit
>> it inside the console and feed it video from a double din from the
>> panel. This way it won't stick out of the console unless it is being
>> used. Any other ideas on video screens? I heard some people say
>> they are in the way of the rear passengers
>>
>> http://www.crutchfield.com/p_077RM890W/Valor-RM-890W.html?tp=77
>>
>> -------- Cust. #40936 RV-10 SB Fuselage N801VR reserved
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280409#280409
>>
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I like the idea of power usb's and the tablets. I just noticed the
screens coming out that are paper thin, flexible and you can wear them
on a t-shirt. I'm now convinced to not install any permenant
entertainment except my garmins of course.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 6, 2010, at 14:34, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
>
> Exactly....I've already dumped my old hard drive based players
> and got the kids apple ipod touches, which means all the work
> I did to make charging accessories for those from plane power
> is gone. So for things that change over time, I'd say stay
> portable. How many people owned portable VHS players...how'd
> you like to have one in your car/plane today? :) DVD's are
> not going to be THE thing forever...especially with Blu-Ray
> out. So for entertainment electronics, keeping it portable
> but coming up with a nice fixed distribution is maybe a good
> idea. This annual my plan is to permanently mount my video
> splitter, install a couple of rear-seat USB charging jacks,
> and find a way to make it so that one kid can plug in their
> ipod to standard composite video jacks and have it play
> on both portable screens. I can do it right now, but I don't
> have the distribution hard mounted, so it's a bag of stuff
> to bring along.
>
> Actually, like Scott was talking about, if Apple makes their
> tablet PC available soon, that might be a cool thing to use
> for in-flight video...just load the sucker up like a big
> ipod and then plug the audio in to your intercom.
>
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
>
>
> Bob Leffler wrote:
>> Probably more cost effective just to use portable units. I did
>> that in my
>> SUV. I also bought a couple cheap lcd screens that can be slaved
>> off the
>> player. The other item to keep in mind is the conversion from dvd to
>> blu-ray. I'm already a having issues at home. We only buy blue-
>> ray, but
>> only have one blue ray player at the moment.
>> For these reasons, I've decided to not installed any permanent
>> entertainment
>> in the RV-10.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 3:34 PM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Overhead console configuration
>> For most people, overhead video screens won't be very comfortable
>> to view. Especially kids. It's just plain too high up. I'd
>> skip it and find something you can lower. Even monitors that
>> you can hold in your hands and plug in up top would be better.
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>> do not archive
>> Strasnuts wrote:
>>>
>>> Oh ya, I also might also buy this and cut out the pocket so I can
>>> fit
>>> it inside the console and feed it video from a double din from the
>>> panel. This way it won't stick out of the console unless it is
>>> being
>>> used. Any other ideas on video screens? I heard some people say
>>> they are in the way of the rear passengers
>>>
>>> http://www.crutchfield.com/p_077RM890W/Valor-RM-890W.html?tp=77
>>>
>>> -------- Cust. #40936 RV-10 SB Fuselage N801VR reserved
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280409#280409
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead console configuration |
> The baggage light will have its own pair of switches.
> 1) Local in the baggage compartment to help during
> loading/unloading.
> 2) Cockpit switch: So mom can crawl back there in flight and dig
> through bags for diapers, bottles, and band-aids. :)
>
I spoke to a couple of flying RV-10 builders and they told me to get a
portable LED light that I can just velcro and use as needed as they have
used their baggage switch less than a hand full of time sin the last 2
years. Just a thought on maybe an easier solution.
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Perry, Phil" <Phil.Perry@netapp.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 12:35 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Overhead console configuration
>
> I really wanted the Aveo's but your experience has started to turn me
> off. (... and save me money)
>
> Now I'm leaning toward Stein's lights (2x) front, (2x) rear, 1(x)
> baggage. I'm planning to us a off/on-dimmer in the front for each light
> and the same thing for the rear seats. That makes a total of four
> off/on-dimmers for local control.
>
> But, I'm also planning to install a master (read "Kiddie") switch for
> the rear lights. So I can shut them off up front and don't have to
> worry about a kid flipping on lights unless I want them to. If I were a
> kid, I'd do it just to make dad turn around and slap me... I know how I
> thought.
>
> The baggage light will have its own pair of switches.
> 1) Local in the baggage compartment to help during
> loading/unloading.
> 2) Cockpit switch: So mom can crawl back there in flight and dig
> through bags for diapers, bottles, and band-aids. :)
>
> Phil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Strasnuts [mailto:sean@braunandco.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 2:07 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Overhead console configuration
>
>
> I may send back the Aveoflash eyeballs. They are really cool how they
> work but they are big and need protection tape like that on an Iphone
> screen. I was wondering too if the rear passengers should have a red
> light also so the pilot doesn't get blinded by the white light. I like
> the input so far, I may still get two red LED lights from Stein to put
> on the forward slants on the overhead. How many lights is too many? I
> will have two eyebeams two big LED white lights, two red leds from
> Stein's AND a baggage light.
>
> --------
> Cust. #40936
> RV-10 SB Fuselage
> N801VR reserved
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280407#280407
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead console configuration |
I went with the portable LED light velcroed in the baggage area and
it works great.
David Maib
40559
Flying
On Jan 6, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Pascal wrote:
> The baggage light will have its own pair of switches.
> 1) Local in the baggage compartment to help during
> loading/unloading.
> 2) Cockpit switch: So mom can crawl back there in flight and dig
> through bags for diapers, bottles, and band-aids. :)
>
I spoke to a couple of flying RV-10 builders and they told me to get
a portable LED light that I can just velcro and use as needed as they
have used their baggage switch less than a hand full of time sin the
last 2 years. Just a thought on maybe an easier solution.
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Perry, Phil" <Phil.Perry@netapp.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 12:35 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Overhead console configuration
>
> I really wanted the Aveo's but your experience has started to turn me
> off. (... and save me money)
>
> Now I'm leaning toward Stein's lights (2x) front, (2x) rear, 1(x)
> baggage. I'm planning to us a off/on-dimmer in the front for each
> light
> and the same thing for the rear seats. That makes a total of four
> off/on-dimmers for local control.
>
> But, I'm also planning to install a master (read "Kiddie") switch for
> the rear lights. So I can shut them off up front and don't have to
> worry about a kid flipping on lights unless I want them to. If I
> were a
> kid, I'd do it just to make dad turn around and slap me... I know
> how I
> thought.
>
> The baggage light will have its own pair of switches.
> 1) Local in the baggage compartment to help during
> loading/unloading.
> 2) Cockpit switch: So mom can crawl back there in flight and dig
> through bags for diapers, bottles, and band-aids. :)
>
> Phil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Strasnuts [mailto:sean@braunandco.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 2:07 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Overhead console configuration
>
>
> I may send back the Aveoflash eyeballs. They are really cool how they
> work but they are big and need protection tape like that on an Iphone
> screen. I was wondering too if the rear passengers should have a red
> light also so the pilot doesn't get blinded by the white light. I
> like
> the input so far, I may still get two red LED lights from Stein to put
> on the forward slants on the overhead. How many lights is too
> many? I
> will have two eyebeams two big LED white lights, two red leds from
> Stein's AND a baggage light.
>
> --------
> Cust. #40936
> RV-10 SB Fuselage
> N801VR reserved
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280407#280407
>
>
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As I continue down the electrical planning path, is there a maximum
radio stack height for Geoff's panel?
I'm trying to figure out how many items I can fit into the center
section, before I pour into using other areas....
Phil
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead console configuration |
Pascal wrote:
>> The baggage light will have its own pair of switches.
>> 1) Local in the baggage compartment to help during
>> loading/unloading.
>> 2) Cockpit switch: So mom can crawl back there in flight and dig
>> through bags for diapers, bottles, and band-aids. :)
> I spoke to a couple of flying RV-10 builders and they told me to get a
> portable LED light that I can just velcro and use as needed as they
> have used their baggage switch less than a hand full of time sin the
> last 2 years. Just a thought on maybe an easier solution.
I'm not a flying '10 builder yet, but I've come to similar conclusions.
Cabin lights are cool but a realistic assessment of how much night
flying I will be doing (and how ofter all 4 seats will be filled when
doing so) leads me to a solution where I have the needed panel/map
lighting fully optimized for use. Cargo lights, dome lighting, backseat
lighting - battery powered, non-permanent mounting, cheap - all seem
like desirable things. Removes questions about battery buss versus
switched buss, breaker versus fuse, switch type, location, dead battery,
cost, etc
Reflecting on my own flying in the Maule:
Almost 50% of my flights over a 6 year period involved daylight takeoffs
and night landings. Most flights were with my 1 regular passenger who
liked to read or do her nails on half of those half night flights.
I have a white dome light and never use it.
On the relatively few instances where I had 3 or 2 or 3 passengers,
practically all flights were daylight. Exactly one flight involved a
full night TO and Landing with extra passengers over 10 years. I
consider night flying much more challenging and I consider extra
passengers challenging. I try not to do both at the same time. When I
do, I move real slow. I've never done a night time departure into low
IMC (but plenty of low IMC arrivals). Not sure that even my well
equipped '10 will tempt me into one of those, but we'll see. A friend
of mine took me (a distracting passenger) on a trip that included a low
IMC departure at night. I was deeply impressed with the extra diligence
he exercised. Thanks for the lesson Frogpond.
The best cockpit light I've used so far is a Ray-o-Vac headlamp with red
and white LEDs and an incandescent light (???). It all looks so
ridiculous with the headphones that I try to remove it before the line
guy gets to the plane, but it works really well.
Bill "it's too cold in the shop to work" Watson
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead console configuration |
I'm going to answer my own question regarding red and blue lights with
this from the archives:
*From: * */"jim berry" <jimberry(at)qwest.net>/*
*Date: * */Mar 24, 2007/*
*Tim Great info on your cockpit lighting and good timing as I am
making those decisions now for my panel. I recently posed the
question of red versus blue lighting to a friend who is an
ophthalmologist, long time pilot with 6 planes ( C421, C185 on
floats, C150, Pitts, Fuqua jet, Eclipse vlj on order. Must be tough
staying current in all his toys.) Without getting into a discussion
of photoreceptors and how the eye works, his response is "if you are
primarily interested in seeing outside the cockpit go with red
lights. If you are more concerned about reading maps, charts, etc in
the cockpit go with blue lighting." He uses only blue. Jim Berry
40482 Finishing *
Bill Mauledriver Watson wrote:
> <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>
>
> Has anyone used both red and blue lights enough to have a preference?
> I've flown with red but never with blue.
>
> Bill
>>
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>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Panel Planning |
Phil the upper center radio stack has 10.5" of height and the lower
center stack below the engine controls in my airplane houses the SL-40,
Transponder and the audio panel PSE 9000.
Geoff Combs
N829GW
----- Original Message -----
From: Perry, Phil
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 9:09 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Panel Planning
As I continue down the electrical planning path, is there a maximum
radio stack height for Geoff's panel?
I'm trying to figure out how many items I can fit into the center
section, before I pour into using other areas..
Phil
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead console configuration |
But that doesn't really provide the answer to ehat YOU should
do...because you may feel either way. ;). I myself am primarily
concerned with seeing outside...as I have to do that to land. So that
conflicts with his having blue, in my case. I just need to make sure
my red is adjusted so I can see switches. Blue wouldn't be bad, I'm
sure, but my biggest goal is maintaining outside vision.
Tim
On Jan 6, 2010, at 8:38 PM, Bill Mauledriver Watson <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com
> wrote:
> I'm going to answer my own question regarding red and blue lights
> with this from the archives:
>
> From: "jim berry" <jimberry(at)qwest.net>
> Date: Mar 24, 2007
> Tim Great info on your cockpit lighting and good timing as I am
> making those decisions now for my panel. I recently posed the
> question of red versus blue lighting to a friend who is an
> ophthalmologist, long time pilot with 6 planes ( C421, C185 on
> floats, C150, Pitts, Fuqua jet, Eclipse vlj on order. Must be tough
> staying current in all his toys.) Without getting into a discussion
> of photoreceptors and how the eye works, his response is "if you are
> primarily interested in seeing outside the cockpit go with red
> lights. If you are more concerned about reading maps, charts, etc in
> the cockpit go with blue lighting." He uses only blue. Jim Berry
> 40482 Finishing
>
>
> Bill Mauledriver Watson wrote:
>>
>> >
>>
>> Has anyone used both red and blue lights enough to have a
>> preference? I've flown with red but never with blue.
>>
>> Bill
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead console configuration |
Actually it did - I'm going red for the same reasons you stated.
Outside vision is the goal. My switches and screens are lit. Not being
able to see magenta stuff on the chart is tolerable though disconcerting
at times.
Description Unit price Qty Amount
LED Map / Cockpit Light, Red 12VDC
Item# MAPLIGHT-R-12 $44.50 USD 2 $89.00 USD
Hi Stein!
Tim Olson wrote:
> But that doesn't really provide the answer to ehat YOU should
> do...because you may feel either way. ;). I myself am primarily
> concerned with seeing outside...as I have to do that to land. So that
> conflicts with his having blue, in my case. I just need to make sure
> my red is adjusted so I can see switches. Blue wouldn't be bad, I'm
> sure, but my biggest goal is maintaining outside vision.
> Tim
>
>
> On Jan 6, 2010, at 8:38 PM, Bill Mauledriver Watson
> <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com <mailto:MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>> wrote:
>
>> I'm going to answer my own question regarding red and blue lights
>> with this from the archives:
>>
>> *From: * */"jim berry" <jimberry(at)qwest.net <http://qwest.net>>/*
>>
>> *Date: * */Mar 24, 2007/*
>>
>> *Tim Great info on your cockpit lighting and good timing as I am
>> making those decisions now for my panel. I recently posed the
>> question of red versus blue lighting to a friend who is an
>> ophthalmologist, long time pilot with 6 planes ( C421, C185 on
>> floats, C150, Pitts, Fuqua jet, Eclipse vlj on order. Must be
>> tough staying current in all his toys.) Without getting into a
>> discussion of photoreceptors and how the eye works, his response
>> is "if you are primarily interested in seeing outside the cockpit
>> go with red lights. If you are more concerned about reading maps,
>> charts, etc in the cockpit go with blue lighting." He uses only
>> blue. Jim Berry 40482 Finishing *
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill Mauledriver Watson wrote:
>>> <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com <mailto:MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>>
>>>
>>> Has anyone used both red and blue lights enough to have a
>>> preference? I've flown with red but never with blue.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>>
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We have a trip scheduled April 1-5 to Avila Beach, CA. Would love to find a spot
to stick the 10 during that time. Also recommendations as to which airport,
San Luis Co, Oceano Co, or Santa Maria, would be best to put into.
Any builds going on??? Would be great to stop by and ck out some projects.
Also recommendations as to places to fly, hike, etc.
Thanks, Don McDonald
--------
Don A. McDonald
40636
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead console configuration |
Phil,
See www.papilio.com for their catalog of decal supplies. They have metallic, glow in the dark, holographic and back-lit media. While some of these are for background effects, I would think by doing a reverse or negative printing you could get labels were the letters would be metallic, or whatever. I have used some of their standard black and white decal material for labels. It is very durable stuff. I think maybe Robin has used them also.
Jim Berry
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