RV10-List Digest Archive

Tue 01/26/10


Total Messages Posted: 26



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:26 AM - Re: All dressed up (Jim Combs)
     2. 05:11 AM - Re: All dressed up (Bill Mauledriver Watson)
     3. 09:15 AM - Re: All dressed up (Marcus Cooper)
     4. 09:19 AM - Re: Re: Another wing build question--wing walk doublers (Billy & Tami Britton)
     5. 09:55 AM - Re: All dressed up (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
     6. 10:24 AM - Re: Re: Another wing build question--wing walk doublers (Bob Leffler)
     7. 10:25 AM - Re: All dressed up (Don McDonald)
     8. 10:31 AM - Re: Re: Another wing build question--wing walk doublers (Steve Stella)
     9. 10:52 AM - Help identify Lycoming hardware (Jae Chang)
    10. 11:29 AM - Re: All dressed up (John Cumins)
    11. 02:31 PM - Re: Re: Another wing build question--wing walk doublers (Billy & Tami Britton)
    12. 02:41 PM - Fuel Check Valve & Gascolator (Patrick Pulis)
    13. 03:01 PM - Re: Fuel Check Valve & Gascolator (Robin Marks)
    14. 03:16 PM - Advanced Flight Systems AOA Pro Version (John Dunne)
    15. 04:50 PM - Re: Fuel Check Valve & Gascolator (Marcus Cooper)
    16. 05:39 PM - Re: Fuel Check Valve & Gascolator (Robin Marks)
    17. 05:52 PM - Re: Advanced Flight Systems AOA Pro Version (Michael Kraus)
    18. 05:54 PM - AC Weight and Balance App (Rene)
    19. 06:51 PM - Re: ceramic coating on exhaust (Chris Johnston)
    20. 07:22 PM - Re: All dressed up (Don McDonald)
    21. 08:08 PM - Re: Re: Another wing build question--wing walk doublers (Ben Westfall)
    22. 08:56 PM - Re: All dressed up (Robin Marks)
    23. 09:40 PM - Re: Help identify Lycoming hardware (Dave Leikam)
    24. 09:42 PM - Re: ceramic coating on exhaust (Robin Marks)
    25. 10:14 PM - Re: ceramic coating on exhaust (Scott Schmidt)
    26. 10:47 PM - Re: ceramic coating on exhaust (Robin Marks)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:26:20 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: All dressed up
    From: Jim Combs <jiminlexky@gmail.com>
    Geoff, VERY NICE! Jim Combs (N312F) On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 4:21 PM, aerosport1 <g.combs@aerosportmodeling.com>wrote: > g.combs@aerosportmodeling.com> > > Finally after 3 months since my first flight I got my gear legs and wheel > pants painted and installed. I thought I would share these photos and help > inspire everyone still banging rivets or working on the fiberglass that it > is worth every hour. Also included a picture of my panel with my > AFS 4500 SV's. > > More photos available at http://combsfamily.phanpare.com > > Geoff > > -------- > Geoff Combs > RV-10 QB N829GW > Flying > 40033 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=283424#283424 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0337_283.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0325_153.jpg > >


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    Time: 05:11:05 AM PST US
    From: Bill Mauledriver Watson <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: All dressed up
    Definitely inspired here - Really nice! Bill "finishing up a morning session in the shop" Watson aerosport1 wrote: > > Finally after 3 months since my first flight I got my gear legs and wheel pants painted and installed. I thought I would share these photos and help > inspire everyone still banging rivets or working on the fiberglass that it is worth every hour. Also included a picture of my panel with my > AFS 4500 SV's. > > More photos available at http://combsfamily.phanpare.com > > Geoff > > -------- > Geoff Combs > RV-10 QB N829GW > Flying > 40033 > > >


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    Time: 09:15:31 AM PST US
    From: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@verizon.net>
    Subject: All dressed up
    Absolutely gorgeous!!! Well done Geoff! Marcus 40286 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of aerosport1 Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:22 PM Subject: RV10-List: All dressed up Do not archive <g.combs@aerosportmodeling.com> Finally after 3 months since my first flight I got my gear legs and wheel pants painted and installed. I thought I would share these photos and help inspire everyone still banging rivets or working on the fiberglass that it is worth every hour. Also included a picture of my panel with my AFS 4500 SV's. More photos available at http://combsfamily.phanpare.com Geoff -------- Geoff Combs RV-10 QB N829GW Flying 40033 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=283424#283424 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0337_283.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0325_153.jpg


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    Time: 09:19:05 AM PST US
    From: "Billy & Tami Britton" <william@gbta.net>
    Subject: Re: Another wing build question--wing walk doublers
    So all the skin to doubler holes for the AN426 rivets get countersunk right through the skin also? This won't remove too much of the skin to let the rivet work properly? Bill -------------------------------------------------- From: "John Kirkland" <jskirkland@webpipe.net> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:19 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Another wing build question--wing walk doublers > > Countersink the skin and doubler, nothing gets dimpled. Use a piece of > scrap with a #8 dimple as a test piece to judge how much to countersink. > The test dimple needs to fit in the countersink, just like the fairing > will when you have the wings mounted. Otherwise, the fairing that covers > the gap between wing and fuselage will sit high. > > -------- > RV-10 #40333 > N540XP (reserved) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=283401#283401 > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > 01:36:00 >


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    Time: 09:55:30 AM PST US
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    Subject: All dressed up
    Sweet! I may have to shamelessly steal that layout. :D Michael -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of aerosport1 Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:22 PM Subject: RV10-List: All dressed up Do not archive <g.combs@aerosportmodeling.com> Finally after 3 months since my first flight I got my gear legs and wheel pants painted and installed. I thought I would share these photos and help inspire everyone still banging rivets or working on the fiberglass that it is worth every hour. Also included a picture of my panel with my AFS 4500 SV's. More photos available at http://combsfamily.phanpare.com Geoff -------- Geoff Combs RV-10 QB N829GW Flying 40033 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=283424#283424 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0337_283.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0325_153.jpg


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    Time: 10:24:43 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Leffler" <rv@thelefflers.com>
    Subject: Re: Another wing build question--wing walk doublers
    Correct...... There is nothing unique with countersinking these rivets as opposed to any that you've done previously. You do want to test the setting of your countersink cage on a piece of scrap first. Bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Billy & Tami Britton Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:19 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Another wing build question--wing walk doublers So all the skin to doubler holes for the AN426 rivets get countersunk right through the skin also? This won't remove too much of the skin to let the rivet work properly? Bill -------------------------------------------------- From: "John Kirkland" <jskirkland@webpipe.net> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:19 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Another wing build question--wing walk doublers > > Countersink the skin and doubler, nothing gets dimpled. Use a piece of > scrap with a #8 dimple as a test piece to judge how much to countersink. > The test dimple needs to fit in the countersink, just like the fairing > will when you have the wings mounted. Otherwise, the fairing that covers > the gap between wing and fuselage will sit high. > > -------- > RV-10 #40333 > N540XP (reserved) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=283401#283401 > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > 01:36:00 >


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    Time: 10:25:08 AM PST US
    From: Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: All dressed up
    All I can say about your 10 is "NICE JOB".- All I can say about my plane is "it flies".--What I was told was that at altitude they'll look ident ical! Great job Geoff! - Don McDonald- --- On Mon, 1/25/10, aerosport1 <g.combs@aerosportmodeling.com> wrote: From: aerosport1 <g.combs@aerosportmodeling.com> Subject: RV10-List: All dressed up m> Finally after 3 months since my first flight I got my gear legs and wheel p ants painted and installed. I thought I would share these photos and help inspire everyone still banging rivets or working on the fiberglass that it is worth every hour. Also included a picture of my panel with my AFS 4500 SV's. More photos available at http://combsfamily.phanpare.com Geoff -------- Geoff Combs RV-10 QB N829GW Flying 40033 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=283424#283424 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0337_283.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0325_153.jpg le, List Admin. =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 10:31:24 AM PST US
    From: "Steve Stella" <Sstella@incisaledge.com>
    Subject: Re: Another wing build question--wing walk doublers
    When you countersink the skin it will take a little off the doubler but it will leave plenty on the skin for the rivet. Steve Stella 40654 Wings N521RV reserved -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Billy & Tami Britton Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:19 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Another wing build question--wing walk doublers So all the skin to doubler holes for the AN426 rivets get countersunk right through the skin also? This won't remove too much of the skin to let the rivet work properly? Bill -------------------------------------------------- From: "John Kirkland" <jskirkland@webpipe.net> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:19 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Another wing build question--wing walk doublers > > Countersink the skin and doubler, nothing gets dimpled. Use a piece of > scrap with a #8 dimple as a test piece to judge how much to countersink. > The test dimple needs to fit in the countersink, just like the fairing > will when you have the wings mounted. Otherwise, the fairing that covers > the gap between wing and fuselage will sit high. > > -------- > RV-10 #40333 > N540XP (reserved) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=283401#283401 > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > 01:36:00 >


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    Time: 10:52:19 AM PST US
    From: Jae Chang <jc-matronics_rv@jline.com>
    Subject: Help identify Lycoming hardware
    http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/wGhe7fWJwye94wS1XjFPNA?authkey=Gv1sRgCI7088GZlYCc2AE&feat=directlink http://picasaweb.google.com/jchang10/DropBox?authkey=Gv1sRgCI7088GZlYCc2AE#5431122204574256322 Does anyone know what the intended purpose for this locknut is? It came with the lycoming engine in one of the hardware bags. It came in a count of 8. As far as i can tell, it is an Aluminum locknut. Never seen one of these before. Any ideas what its intended usage is for? Jae 40533


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    Time: 11:29:14 AM PST US
    From: "John Cumins" <jcumins@jcis.net>
    Subject: All dressed up
    Don Don't think you did not do a nice job on yours. Yours is as nice as a lot of them out there you should be very proud how it turned out. Just my 2 cents. John G. Cumins President JC'S Interactive Systems 2499 B1 Martin Rd Fairfield Ca 94533 707-425-7100 707-425-7576 Fax Your Total Technology Solution Provider From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don McDonald Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 10:25 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: All dressed up All I can say about your 10 is "NICE JOB". All I can say about my plane is "it flies". What I was told was that at altitude they'll look identical! Great job Geoff! Don McDonald --- On Mon, 1/25/10, aerosport1 <g.combs@aerosportmodeling.com> wrote: From: aerosport1 <g.combs@aerosportmodeling.com> Subject: RV10-List: All dressed up <http://us.mc537.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=g.combs@aerosportmodeling.com> > Finally after 3 months since my first flight I got my gear legs and wheel pants painted and installed. I thought I would share these photos and help inspire everyone still banging rivets or working on the fiberglass that it is worth every hour. Also included a picture of my panel with my AFS 4500 SV's. More photos available at http://combsfamily.phanpare.com <http://combsfamily.phanpare.com/> Geoff -------- Geoff Combs RV-10 QB N829GW Flying 40033 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=283424#283424 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0337_283.jpg <http://forums.matronics.com/files/img_0337_283.jpg> http://forums.matronics.com//files/======================= <http://forums.matronics.com/files/img_0325_153.jpg>


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    Time: 02:31:20 PM PST US
    From: "Billy & Tami Britton" <william@gbta.net>
    Subject: Re: Another wing build question--wing walk doublers
    Thanks to all that replied. Also sorry for the "simple" question. I just wanted to be sure I was doing the right thing and not destroying the wing skins. Bill -------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Stella" <Sstella@incisaledge.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:31 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Another wing build question--wing walk doublers > > When you countersink the skin it will take a little off the doubler but it > will leave plenty on the skin for the rivet. > > Steve Stella > 40654 Wings > N521RV reserved > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Billy & Tami > Britton > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:19 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Another wing build question--wing walk > doublers > > > So all the skin to doubler holes for the AN426 rivets get countersunk > right > through the skin also? This won't remove too much of the skin to let the > rivet work properly? > > Bill > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "John Kirkland" <jskirkland@webpipe.net> > Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:19 PM > To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> > Subject: RV10-List: Re: Another wing build question--wing walk doublers > >> >> Countersink the skin and doubler, nothing gets dimpled. Use a piece of >> scrap with a #8 dimple as a test piece to judge how much to countersink. >> The test dimple needs to fit in the countersink, just like the fairing >> will when you have the wings mounted. Otherwise, the fairing that covers >> the gap between wing and fuselage will sit high. >> >> -------- >> RV-10 #40333 >> N540XP (reserved) >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=283401#283401 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> 01:36:00 >> > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > 01:46:00 >


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    Time: 02:41:24 PM PST US
    From: Patrick Pulis <rv10free2fly@yahoo.com.au>
    Subject: Fuel Check Valve & Gascolator
    I purchased an Andair fuel check valve (non return valve)and gascolator wit h my finishing kit, however I am yet to decide where to position both items .=0A=0AMy initial thought is to-install the check valve after (down strea m) the Floscan fuel flow transducer in the tunnel?=0A=0ACould anyone please tell me where the ideal placement for the check valve would be?=0A=0AFor t hose of you out there that have-installed a gascolator (I have the Andair version), could you please indicate where you positioned the gascolator on the firewall and the location of the drain line.=0A=0AAny pictures for eit her the fuel check valve or gascolator installations would be very much app reciated please.=0A=0AMany thanks in anticipation.-=0A=0AKind regards=0A =0APatrick Pulis=0A#40299-- (VH-XPP reserved)=0AAdelaide, South Austral ia-=0A=0A=0A _______________________________________________________ ___________________________=0ASee what's on at the movies in your area. Fin d out now: http://au.movies.yahoo.com/session-times/


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    Time: 03:01:52 PM PST US
    Subject: Fuel Check Valve & Gascolator
    From: "Robin Marks" <robin1@mrmoisture.com>
    Ta da! Robin From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 2:41 PM Subject: RV10-List: Fuel Check Valve & Gascolator I purchased an Andair fuel check valve (non return valve)and gascolator with my finishing kit, however I am yet to decide where to position both items. My initial thought is to install the check valve after (down stream) the Floscan fuel flow transducer in the tunnel? Could anyone please tell me where the ideal placement for the check valve would be? For those of you out there that have installed a gascolator (I have the Andair version), could you please indicate where you positioned the gascolator on the firewall and the location of the drain line. Any pictures for either the fuel check valve or gascolator installations would be very much appreciated please. Many thanks in anticipation. Kind regards Patrick Pulis #40299 (VH-XPP reserved) Adelaide, South Australia ________________________________ See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now <http://au.rd.yahoo.com/movies/mailtagline/*http:/au.movies.yahoo.com/se ssion-times/> .


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    Time: 03:16:19 PM PST US
    From: "John Dunne" <acs@acspropeller.com.au>
    Subject: Advanced Flight Systems AOA Pro Version
    Anybody else with a Pro version AOA have problems with the dimmer function? All else works O.K but can only see a faint display. Appreciate any suggestions or clues on this particular problem. John 40315 E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (7.0.0.514) Database version: 6.14220 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/


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    Time: 04:50:07 PM PST US
    From: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@verizon.net>
    Subject: Fuel Check Valve & Gascolator
    Robin, Real nice installation FWF! What muffler and heat muff are you using? Marcus 40286 Do not archive From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 6:01 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fuel Check Valve & Gascolator Ta da! Robin From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 2:41 PM Subject: RV10-List: Fuel Check Valve & Gascolator I purchased an Andair fuel check valve (non return valve)and gascolator with my finishing kit, however I am yet to decide where to position both items. My initial thought is to install the check valve after (down stream) the Floscan fuel flow transducer in the tunnel? Could anyone please tell me where the ideal placement for the check valve would be? For those of you out there that have installed a gascolator (I have the Andair version), could you please indicate where you positioned the gascolator on the firewall and the location of the drain line. Any pictures for either the fuel check valve or gascolator installations would be very much appreciated please. Many thanks in anticipation. Kind regards Patrick Pulis #40299 (VH-XPP reserved) Adelaide, South Australia _____ See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now <http://au.rd.yahoo.com/movies/mailtagline/*http:/au.movies.yahoo.com/sessio n-times/> . http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 05:39:39 PM PST US
    Subject: Fuel Check Valve & Gascolator
    From: "Robin Marks" <robin1@mrmoisture.com>
    No muffler. The exhaust is a Forsling exhaust with megaphone type collector area. Looks great, sounds great. Mine happen to be ceramic coated inside and out which I would not do again. Better view of exhaust. Photo attached. The heat muff is a standard heat muff cut down (slightly) to fit a flat area of the exhaust on co-pilot side. Pilots side untouched as you can see from the photo. If you want a muffler I think others are using the Vetterman system. I have seen a few and they are beautiful units too. Others can surely comment better than me on those systems. Of note... as nice as these photos are, I am REALLY happy to be past this stage and burning 100LL and not fingertips. Robin From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Cooper Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 4:48 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fuel Check Valve & Gascolator Robin, Real nice installation FWF! What muffler and heat muff are you using? Marcus 40286 Do not archive From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 6:01 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fuel Check Valve & Gascolator Ta da! Robin From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 2:41 PM Subject: RV10-List: Fuel Check Valve & Gascolator I purchased an Andair fuel check valve (non return valve)and gascolator with my finishing kit, however I am yet to decide where to position both items. My initial thought is to install the check valve after (down stream) the Floscan fuel flow transducer in the tunnel? Could anyone please tell me where the ideal placement for the check valve would be? For those of you out there that have installed a gascolator (I have the Andair version), could you please indicate where you positioned the gascolator on the firewall and the location of the drain line. Any pictures for either the fuel check valve or gascolator installations would be very much appreciated please. Many thanks in anticipation. Kind regards Patrick Pulis #40299 (VH-XPP reserved) Adelaide, South Australia ________________________________ See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now <http://au.rd.yahoo.com/movies/mailtagline/*http:/au.movies.yahoo.com/se ssion-times/> . http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 05:52:09 PM PST US
    From: Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
    Subject: Re: Advanced Flight Systems AOA Pro Version
    If it is always dim no matter what you do , the backlighting is bad. It'll have to go back. Ask me how I know? -Mike Kraus Sent from my iPhone On Jan 26, 2010, at 6:13 PM, "John Dunne" <acs@acspropeller.com.au> wrote: > Anybody else with a Pro version AOA have problems with the dimmer > function? > > All else works O.K but can only see a faint display. > > Appreciate any suggestions or clues on this particular problem. > > John 40315 > > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (7.0.0.514) > Database version: 6.14220 > http://www.pctools.com/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ > >


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    Time: 05:54:08 PM PST US
    From: "Rene" <rene@felker.com>
    Subject: AC Weight and Balance App
    Well, I got an Android phone right before Christmas and since it is an open architecture I decided to try and hack out a weight and balance app for the phone. After a lot of learning...I got it done. If you have the appropriate hardware, let me know what you think. It can be found in the Android market, under Applications, Tools. The name is AC Weight and Balance. If you sort by date, it will be at the top..for a little while at least. The main screen allows you to put in the front seat weight, rear seat weight, baggage weight and fuel weight. Show chart...shows chart Settings button leads you to the settings for both the graph and AC AC1 . AC4 - lets you create settings for 4 aircraft. If you hit the menu button, you will get two choices.Home and Empty CG Calc The Empty CG Calc gives you the ability to calc an empty CG based on wheel weights. If you hit the save button, it becomes the empty weight for that aircraft. I am not a software engineer..but I have stayed in a Holiday Inn before. Your mileage may vary. J Rene' N423CF -- Flying 801-721-6080


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    Time: 06:51:49 PM PST US
    From: Chris Johnston <CJohnston@popsound.com>
    Subject: Re: ceramic coating on exhaust
    Not to hijack, but why would you not ceramic coat the exhaust again? That became a standard issue item for me when I built cars, and I expected to do the same for the airplane. What gives? cj On Jan 26, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Robin Marks wrote: No muffler. The exhaust is a Forsling exhaust with megaphone type collector area. Looks great, sounds great. Mine happen to be ceramic coated inside a nd out which I would not do again. Better view of exhaust. Photo attached. The heat muff is a standard heat muff cut down (slightly) to fit a flat are a of the exhaust on co-pilot side. Pilots side untouched as you can see fro m the photo. If you want a muffler I think others are using the Vetterman system. I have seen a few and they are beautiful units too. Others can surely comment bet ter than me on those systems. Of note=85 as nice as these photos are, I am REALLY happy to be past this s tage and burning 100LL and not fingertips. Robin From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@ma tronics.com> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mar cus Cooper Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 4:48 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fuel Check Valve & Gascolator Robin, Real nice installation FWF! What muffler and heat muff are you using? Marcus 40286 Do not archive From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@ma tronics.com> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob in Marks Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 6:01 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fuel Check Valve & Gascolator Ta da! Robin From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@ma tronics.com> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pat rick Pulis Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 2:41 PM Subject: RV10-List: Fuel Check Valve & Gascolator I purchased an Andair fuel check valve (non return valve)and gascolator wit h my finishing kit, however I am yet to decide where to position both items . My initial thought is to install the check valve after (down stream) the Fl oscan fuel flow transducer in the tunnel? Could anyone please tell me where the ideal placement for the check valve w ould be? For those of you out there that have installed a gascolator (I have the And air version), could you please indicate where you positioned the gascolator on the firewall and the location of the drain line. Any pictures for either the fuel check valve or gascolator installations wo uld be very much appreciated please. Many thanks in anticipation. Kind regards Patrick Pulis #40299 (VH-XPP reserved) Adelaide, South Australia ________________________________ See what's on at the movies in your area. Find out now<http://au.rd.yahoo.c om/movies/mailtagline/*http:/au.movies.yahoo.com/session-times/>. http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution <100_2439.JPG> Chris Johnston (CJ) Re-recording Mixer POP Sound 625 Arizona Ave. Santa Monica, CA 90401 310.587.1255 (direct) 310.587.1222 (fax) cjohnston@popsound.com<mailto:cjohnston@popsound.com>


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    Time: 07:22:37 PM PST US
    From: Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com>
    Subject: All dressed up
    Thanks John.... of course I'm proud.=C2- In some areas I am just REALLY p roud, and then in some others, just content. Don --- On Tue, 1/26/10, John Cumins <jcumins@jcis.net> wrote: From: John Cumins <jcumins@jcis.net> Subject: RE: RV10-List: All dressed up Don =C2- Don=99t think you did not do a nice job on yours.=C2- Yours is as n ice as a lot of them out there you should be very proud how it turned out. =C2- Just my 2 cents. =C2- John G. Cumins President =C2- JC'S Interactive Systems 2499 B1 Martin Rd Fairfield Ca 94533 707-425-7100 707-425-7576 Fax =C2- Your Total Technology Solution Provider From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m atronics.com] On Behalf Of Don McDonald Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 10:25 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: All dressed up =C2- All I can say about your 10 is "NICE JOB".=C2- All I can say about my pla ne is "it flies".=C2-=C2-What I was told was that at altitude they'll l ook identical! Great job Geoff! =C2- Don McDonald=C2- --- On Mon, 1/25/10, aerosport1 <g.combs@aerosportmodeling.com> wrote: From: aerosport1 <g.combs@aerosportmodeling.com> Subject: RV10-List: All dressed up m> Finally after 3 months since my first flight I got my gear legs and wheel p ants painted and installed. I thought I would share these photos and help inspire everyone still banging rivets or working on the fiberglass that it is worth every hour. Also included a picture of my panel with my AFS 4500 SV's. More photos available at http://combsfamily.phanpare.com Geoff -------- Geoff Combs RV-10 QB N829GW Flying 40033 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=283424#283424 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0337_283.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/============= =========== Navigator to much much href="http://www .matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10 -List Web href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c =========== =C2- =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 08:08:45 PM PST US
    From: "Ben Westfall" <rv10@sinkrate.com>
    Subject: Re: Another wing build question--wing walk doublers
    Bill don't sweat it if you think it's a simple question. I recall mulling over the plans one too many times in that section. It isn't entirely obvious till a) you complete it and have a good mental picture or b) you f-up a part or 3 and end up redoing it enough times to have memorized each part by feel with your beat up callous hands from all the extra effort. -Ben Westfall Do not archive


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    Time: 08:56:51 PM PST US
    Subject: All dressed up
    From: "Robin Marks" <robin1@mrmoisture.com>
    Geoff, I was particularly fascinated by this shot in your album. Because the leg fairings are not on you can visualize what the -10 would look like as a retract, or just in flight, straight & level at 12,500', maybe a little XM music in the background. Beautiful work on the 9GW. Looks better than certified to me. Robin http://combsfamily.phanfare.com/3161550_4830915#imageID=84783324


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    Time: 09:40:45 PM PST US
    From: "Dave Leikam" <daveleikam@wi.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Help identify Lycoming hardware
    I have twelve. I thought maybe for the exhaust but have not got that far yet. Dave Leikam RV-10 #40496 N89DA Muskego, WI ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jae Chang" <jc-matronics_rv@jline.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:51 PM Subject: RV10-List: Help identify Lycoming hardware > > http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/wGhe7fWJwye94wS1XjFPNA?authkey=Gv1sRgCI7088GZlYCc2AE&feat=directlink > http://picasaweb.google.com/jchang10/DropBox?authkey=Gv1sRgCI7088GZlYCc2AE#5431122204574256322 > > Does anyone know what the intended purpose for this locknut is? It came > with the lycoming engine in one of the hardware bags. It came in a count > of 8. As far as i can tell, it is an Aluminum locknut. Never seen one of > these before. > > Any ideas what its intended usage is for? > > Jae > 40533 > > >


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    Time: 09:42:56 PM PST US
    Subject: ceramic coating on exhaust
    From: "Robin Marks" <robin1@mrmoisture.com>
    Chris, Let me explain what I know and extract backwards. I have: * Forsling double ceramic coated exhaust system. * Well documented heat issues (hot engine) * S/S fire wall mounted heater valves * Dual Heat Muffs (one cut down by 25% to properly fit the exhaust tube) * Generally direct heating duct paths Unlike most of the -10 fleet I am unable to get enough heat into my cabin. Tim and others have noted that at HALF heat setting you can bake Brownies. Ok, ok maybe not that hot but comfortable enough to fly in Wisconsin for gosh sakes. In my ship with FULL heat and OAT's at about 30F I am uncomfortable with a T-Shirt, long-sleeved shirt and a vest or beanie. For any length of flight I have to bring gloves and a few times was shivering a bit. I do have a little leak in my cabin where the overhead console wraps around the door support bracket but that is not the problem. I have a pretty tight seal overall. Not nearly enough heat is coming out of the heating system. I have checked connections and the function of the heater valves; all good. The only thing I can put my finger on is that the double ceramic coating is doing what it's advertised to do; send the heat out the bottom of the tube. I have seen a demonstration of a hot Harley shut down and 15 seconds later you can grab the exhaust. Don't try that with your car exhaust. I have also heard that some owners have been experiencing the coatings chipping or coming off the surface of the pipes. Mine look good externally so far (120 hours) but who knows what they look like inside and who knows what it will look like or perform like at 820 hours. I really didn't give the coating a second thought when ordering the pipes. Upgrade, more power, "SURE, I'll Take Two!" The coatings may not be the problem but I am hard pressed to see what else it could be. Throw in the potential to degrade and I would be just as happy to save the $ and use what has been on every other plane I have ever own or flown. Standard exhaust tubing. A note of personal privilege. I know people can read into the written word many different things. I hate for some to take away that I am always complaining about everything. Blah, blah James Cowl (and all it's ramifications), blah, blah Garmin, blah, blah LOP and my famous %#@*&$! Painter... The whole process was a learning experience for me. Most issues are cleaned with just heat issues remaining. LOP flight has given me a path to rest my engine while I figure things out. I love the plane, love it's systems, I use it a lot for work & pleasure and surprisingly have stopped dreaming of what I want next... (ok, except for the 8A due to fly in 2010. Teehee). Robin From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Johnston Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 6:49 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: ceramic coating on exhaust Not to hijack, but why would you not ceramic coat the exhaust again? That became a standard issue item for me when I built cars, and I expected to do the same for the airplane. What gives? cj On Jan 26, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Robin Marks wrote: No muffler. The exhaust is a Forsling exhaust with megaphone type collector area. Looks great, sounds great. Mine happen to be ceramic coated inside and out which I would not do again. Better view of exhaust. Photo attached. The heat muff is a standard heat muff cut down (slightly) to fit a flat area of the exhaust on co-pilot side. Pilots side untouched as you can see from the photo. If you want a muffler I think others are using the Vetterman system. I have seen a few and they are beautiful units too. Others can surely comment better than me on those systems. Of note... as nice as these photos are, I am REALLY happy to be past this stage and burning 100LL and not fingertips. Robin From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Cooper Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 4:48 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fuel Check Valve & Gascolator Robin, Real nice installation FWF! What muffler and heat muff are you using? Marcus 40286 Do not archive


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    Time: 10:14:43 PM PST US
    From: Scott Schmidt <scottmschmidt@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: ceramic coating on exhaust
    I ceramic coated the outside only on my exhaust and my heaters also crank o ut the heat when barely opened. =0AI have 650 hours on mine and it is hold ing up great. It does lose that original shine but has not cracked or peal ed. =0A=0APeople have mentioned that if you do have problems you cannot we ld it but I will cross that road if it happens. So far I have been very ha ppy. =0A=0AScott Schmidt=0Ascottmschmidt@yahoo.com=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_____ ___________________________=0AFrom: Robin Marks <robin1@mrmoisture.com>=0AT o: rv10-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Tue, January 26, 2010 10:39:09 PM=0ASubj ect: RE: RV10-List: ceramic coating on exhaust=0A=0A =0AChris,=0A Let=0Ame explain what I know and extract backwards.=0AI=0Ahave:=0A=C2=B7 Forsling double ceramic coated exhaust system.=0A=C2=B7 We ll documented heat issues (hot engine)=0A=C2=B7 S/S fire wall mount ed heater valves=0A=C2=B7 Dual Heat Muffs (one cut down by 25% to p roperly fit the exhaust=0Atube)=0A=C2=B7 Generally direct heating d uct paths=0A =0AUnlike=0Amost of the -10 fleet I am unable to get enough he at into my cabin. Tim and=0Aothers have noted that at HALF heat setting you can bake Brownies. Ok, ok maybe=0Anot that hot but comfortable enough to f ly in Wisconsin for gosh sakes. In my=0Aship with FULL heat and OAT =99s at about 30F I am uncomfortable with a=0AT-Shirt, long-sleeved shirt a nd a vest or beanie. For any length of flight I=0Ahave to bring gloves and a few times was shivering a bit. I do have a little=0Aleak in my cabin whe re the overhead console wraps around the door support=0Abracket but that is not the problem. I have a pretty tight seal overall. Not=0Anearly enough h eat is coming out of the heating system. I have checked=0Aconnections and t he function of the heater valves; all good. The only thing I can=0Aput my f inger on is that the double ceramic coating is doing what it=99s=0Aad vertised to do; send the heat out the bottom of the tube. I have seen a=0Ad emonstration of a hot Harley shut down and 15 seconds later you can grab th e=0Aexhaust. Don=99t try that with your car exhaust.=0AI=0Ahave also heard that some owners have been experiencing the coatings chipping=0Aor co ming off the surface of the pipes. Mine look good externally so far (120=0A hours) but who knows what they look like inside and who knows what it will look=0Alike or perform like at 820 hours. =0AI=0Areally didn=99t give the coating a second thought when ordering the pipes.=0AUpgrade, more powe r, =9CSURE, I=99ll Take Two!=9D The coatings may=0Anot be the problem but I am hard pressed to see what else it could be. Throw in =0Athe potential to degrade and I would be just as happy to save the $ and use=0Awhat has been on every other plane I have ever own or flown. Standard exhaust=0Atubing. =0A =0AA=0Anote of personal privilege. I know people can read into the written word many=0Adifferent things. I hate for some to tak e away that I am always complaining about=0Aeverything. Blah, blah James Co wl (and all it=99s ramifications), blah,=0Ablah Garmin, blah, blah LO P and my famous %#@*&$! Painter The whole=0Aprocess was a learning experience for me. Most issues are cleaned with just heat=0Aissues remaini ng. LOP flight has given me a path to rest my engine while I=0Afigure thing s out. I love the plane, love it=99s systems, I use it a=0Alot for w ork & pleasure and surprisingly have stopped dreaming of what I=0Awant next (ok, except for the 8A due to fly in 2010. Teehee). =0A =0ARobin =0A =0A =0AFrom:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com=0A[mailto:owner-rv10-l ist-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris=0AJohnston=0ASent: Tuesday, Ja nuary 26, 2010 6:49 PM=0ATo: rv10-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: RV10-Li st: ceramic coating on exhaust=0A =0ANot to hijack, but why would you not c eramic coat the=0Aexhaust again? That became a standard issue item for me when I built=0Acars, and I expected to do the same for the airplane. What gives?=0A =0Acj=0A =0A =0AOn Jan 26, 2010, at 5:37 PM, Robin Marks wrote: =0A=0A=0ANo=0Amuffler. The exhaust is a Forsling exhaust with megaphone typ e collector area.=0ALooks great, sounds great. Mine happen to be ceramic co ated inside and out=0Awhich I would not do again.=0ABetter=0Aview of exhaus t. Photo attached.=0AThe=0Aheat muff is a standard heat muff cut down (slig htly) to fit a flat area of the=0Aexhaust on co-pilot side. Pilots side unt ouched as you can see from the photo.=0AIf=0Ayou want a muffler I think oth ers are using the Vetterman system. I have seen a=0Afew and they are beauti ful units too. Others can surely comment better than me=0Aon those systems. =0A =0AOf=0Anote as nice as these photos are, I am REALLY happy to be past this=0Astage and burning 100LL and not fingertips.=0A =0ARobin=0A =0A =0AFrom: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-s erver@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Cooper=0ASent: Tuesday, January 26 ,=0A2010 4:48 PM=0ATo: rv10-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: RE: RV10-List:=0A Fuel Check Valve & Gascolator=0A =0ARobin,=0A Real nice installation FWF! What muffler and=0Aheat muff are you using?=0A =0AMarcus=0A40286=0A =0ADo ======================


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    Time: 10:47:29 PM PST US
    Subject: ceramic coating on exhaust
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