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1. 04:49 AM - Re: Three Blade MT Propeller (David Maib)
2. 08:45 AM - Re: Three Blade MT Propeller (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
3. 08:48 AM - Re: Three Blade MT Propeller (Roxanne and Mike Lefever)
4. 09:14 AM - Re: Three Blade MT Propeller (Tim Olson)
5. 09:23 AM - Re: Three Blade MT Propeller (David Maib)
6. 09:46 AM - Re: Three Blade MT Propeller (Don McDonald)
7. 09:50 AM - [Fw: Re: Is a large countersink still in circulation?] (Bill Mauledriver Watson)
8. 10:04 AM - User Flight Manual (greghale)
9. 10:30 AM - Re: Baffle paint? (Jim Berry)
10. 11:04 AM - Re: User Flight Manual (Danny Riggs)
11. 11:50 AM - Rudder trailing edge (jrlark@bmts.com)
12. 12:47 PM - Re: Rudder trailing edge (Jack Phillips)
13. 12:50 PM - Pilot Operating Handbook/checklist (DLM)
14. 12:51 PM - Re: User Flight Manual (Pascal)
15. 12:54 PM - Re: Rudder trailing edge (ricksked@cox.net)
16. 01:03 PM - Re: Rudder trailing edge (Jeff Carpenter)
17. 03:55 PM - Re: User Flight Manual (Danny Riggs)
18. 05:26 PM - Re: [Fw: Re: Is a large countersink still in circulation?] (Roxanne and Mike Lefever)
19. 05:42 PM - Re: Three Blade MT Propeller (Roxanne and Mike Lefever)
20. 05:56 PM - Re: Three Blade MT Propeller (Roxanne and Mike Lefever)
21. 07:11 PM - Re: All dressed up (nukeflyboy)
22. 07:21 PM - Re: Door Flex (nukeflyboy)
23. 09:46 PM - Re: Three Blade MT Propeller (Dave Leikam)
24. 09:59 PM - Roger Christopher Hopkinson (Dawson-Townsend,Timothy)
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| Subject: | Re: Three Blade MT Propeller |
I have been flying with the 3 blade MT for 14 months and over 180
hours with absolutely no problems. Very smooth prop. The common
wisdoms seems to say that the 3 blade props are a few knots slower
than 2 blade. The MT is 17 lbs lighter than the 2 blade Hartzell
IIRC. I don't know what the weight of the 3 blade Hartzell is. You
will get a bit of paint erosion from flying in rain with the MT. The
MT maintenance manual gives good instructions for easy repair of this
erosion.
David Maib
40559
flying
On Jan 30, 2010, at 9:54 PM, Roxanne and Mike Lefever wrote:
Anyone on the list purchase the three blade MT and if so what is the
opinion of this set up versus the Hartzell which is about 50%more
expensive?
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| Subject: | Three Blade MT Propeller |
General consensus is that with the MT you get:
- a couple not decrease in top end
- a much smoother prop
- increase in climb performance and quicker off the blocks
- much bigger PITA when taking off the lower cowl
- lighter nose weight
- Sex appeal :)
The Aerocomposite that Deems and a few others have are supposed to be as
fast or slightly faster than the Hartzell and you can have them painted for
a couple point bump in the aforementioned sex appeal.
Michael
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atronics.com] On Behalf Of Roxanne and Mike Lefever
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 8:55 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Three Blade MT Propeller
Anyone on the list purchase the three blade MT and if so what is the opinio
n of this set up versus the Hartzell which is about 50%more expensive?
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| Subject: | Three Blade MT Propeller |
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| Subject: | Re: Three Blade MT Propeller |
I don't think there have ever been any numbers from non-souped engines
to show the aerocomposite being faster on a same cowl/engine combo.
Not saying it isn't true, but to date I think the only KNOWN data
point is the MT is just the slightest bit slower...not much. The
aerocomposite might be faster or equal, but no real solid side by side
flight has been done like with the MT. It is a beautiful prop,
regardless.
Tim
On Jan 31, 2010, at 10:36 AM, "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net
> wrote:
> General consensus is that with the MT you get:
>
>
> - a couple not decrease in top end
>
> - a much smoother prop
>
> - increase in climb performance and quicker off the blocks
>
> - much bigger PITA when taking off the lower cowl
>
> - lighter nose weight
>
> - Sex appeal :)
>
>
> The Aerocomposite that Deems and a few others have are supposed to
> be as fast or slightly faster than the Hartzell and you can have
> them painted for a couple point bump in the aforementioned sex appeal.
>
>
> Michael
>
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roxanne and Mike Lefever
> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 8:55 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Three Blade MT Propeller
>
>
> Anyone on the list purchase the three blade MT and if so what is the
> opinion of this set up versus the Hartzell which is about 50%more
> expensive?
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
> http://forums.matronics.com
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: Three Blade MT Propeller |
MT has some limited color choices as well. Mine is black with yellow
tips. I forgot to mention the lower cowl issue that many have noted.
You will have to modify your lower cowl to get it on and off. If you
live reasonably close to a major airport (with customs), you can
arrange to have the prop shipped directly from the factory assembled.
This will save you from having it shipped in pieces to a US MT
service center and paying to have it assembled there. Then you will
have to pick it up or arrange for shipping from the service center.
Jim Ayres at LessDragProducts did a good job for me and saved me a
few bucks by suggesting I have it shipped from the factory assembled.
David Maib
40559
flying
On Jan 31, 2010, at 11:36 AM, RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
General consensus is that with the MT you get:
- a couple not decrease in top end
- a much smoother prop
- increase in climb performance and quicker off the blocks
- much bigger PITA when taking off the lower cowl
- lighter nose weight
- Sex appeal :)
The Aerocomposite that Deems and a few others have are supposed to
be as fast or slightly faster than the Hartzell and you can have them
painted for a couple point bump in the aforementioned sex appeal.
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-
server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roxanne and Mike Lefever
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 8:55 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Three Blade MT Propeller
Anyone on the list purchase the three blade MT and if so what is the
opinion of this set up versus the Hartzell which is about 50%more
expensive?
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: Three Blade MT Propeller |
Greg Nelson, out of Lincoln, Ca... former U-2 pilot, owns a rocket.- Orig
inally he had a 2 bade Hartzell, and then switched to a 3 blade MT.- He s
aid that the top end loss was only a few knots, and that climbout-was ver
y close to identical.... this is the info I used to finally make a decision
on which way to go.- Another positive aspect that noone has mentioned is
that when you pull the mixture for shut down, IT STOPS, RIGHT NOW!- I've
watched lots of planes shut down, and that added weight of the 2 blade har
tzell-is just a really big heavy flywheel, so it turns several more revol
utions, and the engine and aircraft rock around quite a bit.
Don McDonald
--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
From: Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Three Blade MT Propeller
I don't think there have ever been any numbers from non-souped engines to s
how the aerocomposite being faster on a same cowl/engine combo. -Not sayi
ng it isn't true, but to date I think the only KNOWN data point is the MT i
s just the slightest bit slower...not much. -The aerocomposite might be f
aster or equal, but no real solid side by side flight has been done like wi
th the MT. -It is a beautiful prop, regardless.
Tim
On Jan 31, 2010, at 10:36 AM, "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@saus
en.net> wrote:
General consensus is that with the MT you get:
-
- a couple not decrease in top end
- a much smoother prop
- increase in climb performance and quicker off the blocks
- much bigger PITA when taking off the lower cowl
- lighter nose weight
- Sex appeal :)
-
- The Aerocomposite that Deems and a few others have are supposed to be a
s fast or slightly faster than the Hartzell and you can have them painted f
or a couple point bump in the aforementioned sex appeal.
-
Michael
-
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Roxanne and Mike Lefever
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 8:55 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Three Blade MT Propeller
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Anyone on the list purchase the three blade MT and if so what is the opinio
n of this set up versus the Hartzell which is about 50%more expensive? -
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| Subject: | Re: Is a large countersink still in circulation?] |
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| Subject: | User Flight Manual |
Does anyone have a flight manual they wrote for the RV10 they would be willing
to share as a guide. I am getting close to first flight and want to get started
on the flight manual and check list.
Thanks...Greg
--------
Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH
www.nwacaptain.com
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| Subject: | Re: Baffle paint? |
I painted my Pitts baffles with white Imron and after 25 years there is just slight
discoloration right next to the cylinders; none elsewhere.
I had my -10 baffles anodized($50 for everything) and have been able to take some
of them off a couple of times without scratching them.
Jim Berry
40482
N15JB
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| Subject: | User Flight Manual |
That would be a REALLY big help for some of us!! Dan
> Subject: RV10-List: User Flight Manual
> From: ghale5224@aol.com
> Date: Sun=2C 31 Jan 2010 10:04:02 -0800
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>
>
> Does anyone have a flight manual they wrote for the RV10 they would be wi
lling to share as a guide. I am getting close to first flight and want to
get started on the flight manual and check list.
>
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| Subject: | Rudder trailing edge |
Hi Guys
I just completed the trailing edge riveting of my
rudder. While I was able to get all the rivets
to set very nicely on both sides, I did leave
several marks from probably using too big a flush
set and maybe too much pounding. I want to fill
these and then sand them smooth prior to
painting. I've perused ACS which just confused
me. What have you all used to fill something
like this?
Rick
(On a 2 week building hiatus, remotely from the
island of Grand Turk)
#40956
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| Subject: | Rudder trailing edge |
PolyFiber SuperFil
It is an epoxy filler that won't shrink like Bondo does. And it's very
light.
Jack Phillips
# 40610, Wings (Fuel tanks)
Raleigh, NC
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jrlark@bmts.com
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 2:18 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Rudder trailing edge
Hi Guys
I just completed the trailing edge riveting of my
rudder. While I was able to get all the rivets
to set very nicely on both sides, I did leave
several marks from probably using too big a flush
set and maybe too much pounding. I want to fill
these and then sand them smooth prior to
painting. I've perused ACS which just confused
me. What have you all used to fill something
like this?
Rick
(On a 2 week building hiatus, remotely from the
island of Grand Turk)
#40956
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| Subject: | Pilot Operating Handbook/checklist |
My sample from others.
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| Subject: | Re: User Flight Manual |
when in doubt check Tim Olsons page.. He has everything.. Also look in
the archives as I recall this was posted a while back..
From: Danny Riggs
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 11:00 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: User Flight Manual
That would be a REALLY big help for some of us!! Dan
> Subject: RV10-List: User Flight Manual
> From: ghale5224@aol.com
> Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 10:04:02 -0800
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
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> Does anyone have a flight manual they wrote for the RV10 they would be
willing to share as a guide. I am getting close to first flight and want
to get started on the flight manual and check list.
>
> Thanks...Greg
>
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> www.nwacaptain.com
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder trailing edge |
Don't worry about it now, when you get ready for paint several options superfill,
evercoat metal glaze....way too early to worry now
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From: jrlark@bmts.com
Sender: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
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Sent: Jan 31, 2010 11:17 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Rudder trailing edge
Hi Guys
I just completed the trailing edge riveting of my
rudder. While I was able to get all the rivets
to set very nicely on both sides, I did leave
several marks from probably using too big a flush
set and maybe too much pounding. I want to fill
these and then sand them smooth prior to
painting. I've perused ACS which just confused
me. What have you all used to fill something
like this?
Rick
(On a 2 week building hiatus, remotely from the
island of Grand Turk)
#40956
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder trailing edge |
Superfill
On Jan 31, 2010, at 11:17 AM, jrlark@bmts.com wrote:
>
> Hi Guys
>
> I just completed the trailing edge riveting of my
> rudder. While I was able to get all the rivets
> to set very nicely on both sides, I did leave
> several marks from probably using too big a flush
> set and maybe too much pounding. I want to fill
> these and then sand them smooth prior to
> painting. I've perused ACS which just confused
> me. What have you all used to fill something
> like this?
>
> Rick
> (On a 2 week building hiatus, remotely from the
> island of Grand Turk)
> #40956
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| Subject: | User Flight Manual |
Greg=2C
I found this one also: http://vansairforce.net/poh.htm for the POH. Thank
s for asking as I needed it also! Dan
> Subject: RV10-List: User Flight Manual
> From: ghale5224@aol.com
> Date: Sun=2C 31 Jan 2010 10:04:02 -0800
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
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> Does anyone have a flight manual they wrote for the RV10 they would be wi
lling to share as a guide. I am getting close to first flight and want to
get started on the flight manual and check list.
>
> Thanks...Greg
>
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> www.nwacaptain.com
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| Subject: | Re: Is a large countersink still in circulation?] |
Bill:
Sorry=2C I kind of forgot to move it on...............I will get it off to
you within a day or two (at worst)............!!
From: MauleDriver@nc.rr.com
Subject: [Fwd: Re: RV10-List: Is a large countersink still in circulation?]
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Subject: Re: RV10-List: Is a large countersink still in circulation?
No I didn't and I'm ready. Mike or Lew=2C any word?
Rob Kochman wrote:
> Hey=2C Bill... did you get the countersink from Mike yet? Thanks...
>
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> On Sat=2C Dec 12=2C 2009 at 6:31 PM=2C Bill Mauledriver Watson
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> Hey Bill "looking for a hole sinker not like Tiger" Watson=2C
>
> Mike Lefever presently has the countersink and just emailed
> me to
> see if it was alright to keep it until after the holidays. It
> would be best if he sent it directly to you when he's finished
> instead of detouring through me. PM me and I'll get you his
> info
> in case he doesn't see this.
>
> Later=2C - Lew "still pushing for an AP" Gallagher
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Mauledriver Watson"
> <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com <mailto:MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>
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> I'd like to use it if available.
> Alternatively=2C where's a good place to buy a 5/16" 100de
g
> countersink?
> BTW=2C I replaced the stock rear seat belt arrangement by
> adding
> 2 additional hardpoints - so I have to countersink 4 holes
.
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> Bill Watson
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| Subject: | Three Blade MT Propeller |
I guess the only thing that concerns me that I don't think there is an easy
answer to is...........I travel to Mexico and land on unimproved "airports
" 5 or 10 times a year............and have some concern the sand will eat u
p the MT. Any thoughts?
From: building_partner@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Three Blade MT Propeller
Greg Nelson=2C out of Lincoln=2C Ca... former U-2 pilot=2C owns a rocket.
Originally he had a 2 bade Hartzell=2C and then switched to a 3 blade MT.
He said that the top end loss was only a few knots=2C and that climbout was
very close to identical.... this is the info I used to finally make a deci
sion on which way to go. Another positive aspect that noone has mentioned
is that when you pull the mixture for shut down=2C IT STOPS=2C RIGHT NOW!
I've watched lots of planes shut down=2C and that added weight of the 2 bla
de hartzell is just a really big heavy flywheel=2C so it turns several more
revolutions=2C and the engine and aircraft rock around quite a bit.
Don McDonald
--- On Sun=2C 1/31/10=2C Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
From: Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Three Blade MT Propeller
I don't think there have ever been any numbers from non-souped engines to s
how the aerocomposite being faster on a same cowl/engine combo. Not saying
it isn't true=2C but to date I think the only KNOWN data point is the MT i
s just the slightest bit slower...not much. The aerocomposite might be fas
ter or equal=2C but no real solid side by side flight has been done like wi
th the MT. It is a beautiful prop=2C regardless.
Tim
On Jan 31=2C 2010=2C at 10:36 AM=2C "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilde
r@sausen.net> wrote:
General consensus is that with the MT you get:
- a couple not decrease in top end
- a much smoother prop
- increase in climb performance and quicker off the blocks
- much bigger PITA when taking off the lower cowl
- lighter nose weight
- Sex appeal :)
The Aerocomposite that Deems and a few others have are supposed to be as
fast or slightly faster than the Hartzell and you can have them painted for
a couple point bump in the aforementioned sex appeal.
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Roxanne and Mike Lefever
Sent: Saturday=2C January 30=2C 2010 8:55 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Three Blade MT Propeller
Anyone on the list purchase the three blade MT and if so what is the opinio
n of this set up versus the Hartzell which is about 50%more expensive?
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| Subject: | Three Blade MT Propeller |
Thats a great idea thanks........being in Arizona with all of the customs c
enters I may be able to figure that out.
From: dmaib@mac.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Three Blade MT Propeller
MT has some limited color choices as well. Mine is black with yellow tips.
I forgot to mention the lower cowl issue that many have noted. You will hav
e to modify your lower cowl to get it on and off. If you live reasonably cl
ose to a major airport (with customs)=2C you can arrange to have the prop s
hipped directly from the factory assembled. This will save you from having
it shipped in pieces to a US MT service center and paying to have it assemb
led there. Then you will have to pick it up or arrange for shipping from th
e service center. Jim Ayres at LessDragProducts did a good job for me and s
aved me a few bucks by suggesting I have it shipped from the factory assemb
led.
David Maib
40559
flying
On Jan 31=2C 2010=2C at 11:36 AM=2C RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
General consensus is that with the MT you get:
- a couple not decrease in top end
- a much smoother prop
- increase in climb performance and quicker off the blocks
- much bigger PITA when taking off the lower cowl
- lighter nose weight
- Sex appeal :)
The Aerocomposite that Deems and a few others have are supposed to be as
fast or slightly faster than the Hartzell and you can have them painted for
a couple point bump in the aforementioned sex appeal.
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Roxanne and Mike Lefever
Sent: Saturday=2C January 30=2C 2010 8:55 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Three Blade MT Propeller
Anyone on the list purchase the three blade MT and if so what is the opinio
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| Subject: | Re: All dressed up |
Beautiful job Geoff! Thanks for the inspiration.
(Back to the fiberglass ........)
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Dave Moore
RV-6 flying
RV-10 QB - FWF
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You really don't want to put a vent opening in the rear bulkhead. The pressure
in the tailcone is higher than that in the cabin and you will get a huge cold
draft coming forward. In flight you can feel the air coming forward thru the
corrugations in the baggage compartment bulkhead.
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| Subject: | Re: Three Blade MT Propeller |
I was on the fence between an MT prop and 2 blade Hartzell. Other than
cost and performance, a big consideration I remember hearing from Van's
was that if an MT blade gets chipped, the prop should not be flown but
sent off for inspection and repair before further flight. The aluminum
Hartzell could be field dressed depending on the damage and flown again
quickly. This one advantage along with reports two blade props have the
best top end finalized my decision. Reports also say having the two
blade Hartzell balanced along with the inherent smoothness of the 540's
we all run make them very smooth. The only advantages I remember from
my research were, better ground clearance and less noise from shorter
blades, lighter and better looking.
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA
Muskego, WI
----- Original Message -----
From: Roxanne and Mike Lefever
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 7:24 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Three Blade MT Propeller
I guess the only thing that concerns me that I don't think there is an
easy answer to is...........I travel to Mexico and land on unimproved
"airports" 5 or 10 times a year............and have some concern the
sand will eat up the MT. Any thoughts?
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 09:42:30 -0800
From: building_partner@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Three Blade MT Propeller
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Greg Nelson, out of Lincoln, Ca... former U-2 pilot, owns a
rocket. Originally he had a 2 bade Hartzell, and then switched to a 3
blade MT. He said that the top end loss was only a few knots, and that
climbout was very close to identical.... this is the info I used to
finally make a decision on which way to go. Another positive aspect
that noone has mentioned is that when you pull the mixture for shut
down, IT STOPS, RIGHT NOW! I've watched lots of planes shut down, and
that added weight of the 2 blade hartzell is just a really big heavy
flywheel, so it turns several more revolutions, and the engine and
aircraft rock around quite a bit.
Don McDonald
--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
From: Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Three Blade MT Propeller
To: "rv10-list@matronics.com" <rv10-list@matronics.com>
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2010, 9:05 AM
I don't think there have ever been any numbers from non-souped
engines to show the aerocomposite being faster on a same cowl/engine
combo. Not saying it isn't true, but to date I think the only KNOWN
data point is the MT is just the slightest bit slower...not much. The
aerocomposite might be faster or equal, but no real solid side by side
flight has been done like with the MT. It is a beautiful prop,
regardless.
Tim
On Jan 31, 2010, at 10:36 AM, "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)"
<rvbuilder@sausen.net> wrote:
General consensus is that with the MT you get:
- a couple not decrease in top end
- a much smoother prop
- increase in climb performance and quicker off the blocks
- much bigger PITA when taking off the lower cowl
- lighter nose weight
- Sex appeal :)
The Aerocomposite that Deems and a few others have are
supposed to be as fast or slightly faster than the Hartzell and you can
have them painted for a couple point bump in the aforementioned sex
appeal.
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roxanne and
Mike Lefever
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 8:55 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: Three Blade MT Propeller
Anyone on the list purchase the three blade MT and if so what
is the opinion of this set up versus the Hartzell which is about 50%more
expensive?
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| Subject: | Roger Christopher Hopkinson |
Anyone on the list know Roger Christopher Hopkinson in the UK? He's
listed as the registered owner of a flying RV-10 in Reading. I'll be in
the UK in April and it might be fun to stop by . . .
TDT
Tim Dawson-Townsend
40025
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