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1. 12:37 AM - Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders (Ron McGann)
2. 04:39 AM - Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders (Kelly McMullen)
3. 06:05 AM - Re: Re: New Door Latch Video S.B. replacement (Bob Kaufmann)
4. 06:05 AM - Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders (Jim Combs)
5. 06:24 AM - Re: Re: New Door Latch Video S.B. replacement (Patrick Thyssen)
6. 07:00 AM - Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders (Linn Walters)
7. 07:17 AM - Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders (Linn Walters)
8. 07:38 AM - Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders (Kelly McMullen)
9. 08:55 AM - Re: Re: Torque Wrench (Ben Westfall)
10. 08:55 AM - Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders (Don McDonald)
11. 08:56 AM - Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders (Tim Olson)
12. 09:50 AM - Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders (Tim Olson)
13. 10:27 AM - Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders (Robin Marks)
14. 11:59 AM - RV-10 Cutaway Drawing (Bob Leffler)
15. 01:36 PM - Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders (Kelly McMullen)
16. 05:58 PM - Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders (McGann, Ron)
17. 06:49 PM - Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders (Kelly McMullen)
18. 07:05 PM - wiring (Linn Walters)
19. 07:21 PM - Re: wiring (Bill Mauledriver Watson)
20. 07:31 PM - Re: wiring (Larry Rosen)
21. 08:07 PM - Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders (Tim Olson)
22. 08:52 PM - OSH camping (DLM)
23. 08:57 PM - Windshield fairing (Dave Leikam)
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Subject: | Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders |
G'day all,
Since first flight, I have noticed that my #2 cylinder is consistently
hotter than the rest in all modes of flight except cruise lean of peak. At
peak, and lean of peak, #2 is consistently cooler than the rest. I
concluded that the fuel flow rate to cylinder 2 was less the rest for some
reason. At the suggestion of one of our listers, I popped the top cowl and
ran the 'coke bottle test'. This confirmed that fuel delivery to cylinder 2
was indeed about 80% of that to the other cylinders.
So, what to do? I removed the fuel line, cleaned it and could not find any
obvious obstruction. Since the flow test confirmed the flow out of the line
was less than the others, I can only conclude that there is a problem with
the spider. Are there any adjustments that can be made? Sorry if this is a
really lame question, but engines are still a black art to me.
Cheers,
Ron
VH-XRM, flying in Oz
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Subject: | Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders |
Was your test with the injector or without it? If with, swap that
injector with your richest cylinder. If without, I'm not sure how
relevant it is without the back pressure of the injector. I'm not
aware of any adjustments in the spider. I suppose it could have a bit
of dirt/debris inside it. Ordinarily all 4 injectors see the same
pressure, and it is the injector that determines actual flow. That is
why GAMI is able to adjust flow by providing accurate flow measured
injectors selected to match the airflow each cylinder sees.
The fuel servo controls the fuel pressure to the spider (flow divider)
which simply splits the flow into 6 lines, and has a low pressure
cutoff to stop flow when you go to idle cutoff. All 6 injectors should
see the same pressure, and the size of the orifice controls the flow
volume into the manifold.
I would soak that injector in Hoppe's #9 gun cleaner for about 30 min.
then blow out with compressed air. Do not leave the injector in the
solution too long as it can actually affect the metal over time. If
that doesn't change anything, try an injector swap. If the problem
moves with the injector, you know you need a new injector.
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 1:33 AM, Ron McGann <ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com> wrote:
> Gday all,
>
>
> Since first flight, I have noticed that my #2 cylinder is consistently
> hotter than the rest in all modes of flight except cruise lean of peak. fuel
delivery to cylinder 2
> was indeed about 80% of that to the other cylinders.
>
>
> So, what to do? I removed the fuel line, cleaned it and could not find any
> obvious obstruction. Since the flow test confirmed the flow out of the line
> was less than the others, I can only conclude that there is a problem with
> the spider. Are there any adjustments that can be made? Sorry if this is a
> really lame question, but engines are still a black art to me.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ron
>
> VH-XRM, flying in Oz
>
>
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Subject: | Re: New Door Latch Video S.B. replacement |
I would like a set.
Bob Kaufmann
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Strasnuts
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 9:37 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: New Door Latch Video S.B. replacement
For all of you that are close to installing the doors and want my system,
don't cut your rack gears from Vans where they tell you. Cut them in half,
right down the middle or wait for the instructions with my kit. This way I
(or you)can make 180 degrees of travel on your handle. Retrofit kits will
have the option of buying 90 degree kits for already cut racks or 180 degree
kits that include new racks for the handles. The 180 degree kits will cost
a little extra for the material. For those of you who want retrofit kits
you will have to decide on whether you want the door to be pulled in before
pin penetration and 1-1/4 of pin travel past the door or 90 degree kits that
hold the door closed and tight in the middle preventing bulging and the same
pin extension.
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RV-10 SB Fuselage
N801VR reserved
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Subject: | Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders |
Ron,
Airflow Performance has injectors with inserts. Various inserts have
different diameters and will adjust fuel flow. They have a procedure for
checking and adjusting the fuel flows for balance. You should check them
out.
There is no adjustment in the spider.
Jim Combs (N312F)
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 3:33 AM, Ron McGann <ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com> wrote
:
> G=92day all,
>
>
> Since first flight, I have noticed that my #2 cylinder is consistently
> hotter than the rest in all modes of flight except cruise lean of peak.
At
> peak, and lean of peak, #2 is consistently cooler than the rest. I
> concluded that the fuel flow rate to cylinder 2 was less the rest for som
e
> reason. At the suggestion of one of our listers, I popped the top cowl a
nd
> ran the =91coke bottle test=92. This confirmed that fuel delivery to cyl
inder 2
> was indeed about 80% of that to the other cylinders.
>
>
> So, what to do? I removed the fuel line, cleaned it and could not find a
ny
> obvious obstruction. Since the flow test confirmed the flow out of the l
ine
> was less than the others, I can only conclude that there is a problem wit
h
> the spider. Are there any adjustments that can be made? Sorry if this i
s a
> really lame question, but engines are still a black art to me.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ron
>
> VH-XRM, flying in Oz
>
> *
>
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Subject: | Re: New Door Latch Video S.B. replacement |
I would be very interested in getting one. Let us know what the cost is.
Patrick Thyssen
n15pt
40257
--- On Sat, 2/6/10, Strasnuts <sean@braunandco.com> wrote:
From: Strasnuts <sean@braunandco.com>
Subject: RV10-List: Re: New Door Latch Video S.B. replacement
Thanks Robert.
It could be retro-fitted.- The only new holes are four screw holes, a 5/1
6 hole to tighten a screw and an opening in the bottom of the door to slide
in the mechanism which is about 2-1/8 inches x 3/4 which could be filled i
n with a fiberglass piece.
I'm thinking about making a bunch of these and having the builders install
them.-
Haven't thought about cost.
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RV-10 SB Fuselage
N801VR reserved
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Subject: | Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders |
I'm not positive, but I think they're only for experimental aircraft.
The really neat thing about AF injectors is that they change an insert
instead of the whole injector body ..... making it much easier to change
the injector orifice on a hot engine.
Linn
Jim Combs wrote:
> Ron,
>
> Airflow Performance has injectors with inserts. Various inserts have
> different diameters and will adjust fuel flow. They have a procedure
> for checking and adjusting the fuel flows for balance. You should check
> them out.
>
> There is no adjustment in the spider.
>
> Jim Combs (N312F)
>
> On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 3:33 AM, Ron McGann <ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com
> <mailto:ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com>> wrote:
>
> Gday all,
>
>
>
> Since first flight, I have noticed that my #2 cylinder is
> consistently hotter than the rest in all modes of flight except
> cruise lean of peak. At peak, and lean of peak, #2 is consistently
> cooler than the rest. I concluded that the fuel flow rate to
> cylinder 2 was less the rest for some reason. At the suggestion of
> one of our listers, I popped the top cowl and ran the coke bottle
> test. This confirmed that fuel delivery to cylinder 2 was indeed
> about 80% of that to the other cylinders.
>
>
>
> So, what to do? I removed the fuel line, cleaned it and could not
> find any obvious obstruction. Since the flow test confirmed the
> flow out of the line was less than the others, I can only conclude
> that there is a problem with the spider. Are there any adjustments
> that can be made? Sorry if this is a really lame question, but
> engines are still a black art to me.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ron
>
> VH-XRM, flying in Oz
>
> *
>
> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
> tp://forums.matronics.com
> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
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>
>
> *
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders |
Sorry guys ... thought this was on another list about injectors!!!
Linn
do not archive!
Linn Walters wrote:
>
> I'm not positive, but I think they're only for experimental aircraft.
> The really neat thing about AF injectors is that they change an insert
> instead of the whole injector body ..... making it much easier to change
> the injector orifice on a hot engine.
> Linn
>
> Jim Combs wrote:
>> Ron,
>>
>> Airflow Performance has injectors with inserts. Various inserts have
>> different diameters and will adjust fuel flow. They have a procedure
>> for checking and adjusting the fuel flows for balance. You should
>> check them out.
>>
>> There is no adjustment in the spider.
>>
>> Jim Combs (N312F)
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 3:33 AM, Ron McGann <ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com
>> <mailto:ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Gday all,
>>
>>
>> Since first flight, I have noticed that my #2 cylinder is
>> consistently hotter than the rest in all modes of flight except
>> cruise lean of peak. At peak, and lean of peak, #2 is consistently
>> cooler than the rest. I concluded that the fuel flow rate to
>> cylinder 2 was less the rest for some reason. At the suggestion of
>> one of our listers, I popped the top cowl and ran the coke bottle
>> test. This confirmed that fuel delivery to cylinder 2 was indeed
>> about 80% of that to the other cylinders.
>>
>> So, what to do? I removed the fuel line, cleaned it and could not
>> find any obvious obstruction. Since the flow test confirmed the
>> flow out of the line was less than the others, I can only conclude
>> that there is a problem with the spider. Are there any adjustments
>> that can be made? Sorry if this is a really lame question, but
>> engines are still a black art to me.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Ron
>>
>> VH-XRM, flying in Oz
>> *
>>
>> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>> tp://forums.matronics.com
>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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>
>
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Subject: | Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders |
I believe you are correct re experimental only. I darn sure would NOT
want to be messing with injector lines and liquid avgas on top of a
hot engine, without a nomex suit and a couple fire guards standing by.
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 7:55 AM, Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> I'm not positive, but I think they're only for experimental aircraft. The
> really neat thing about AF injectors is that they change an insert instead
> of the whole injector body ..... making it much easier to change the
> injector orifice on a hot engine.
> Linn
>
> Jim Combs wrote:
>>
>> Ron,
>>
>> Airflow Performance has injectors with inserts. Various inserts have
>> different diameters and will adjust fuel flow. They have a procedure for
>> checking and adjusting the fuel flows for balance. You should check them
>> out.
>>
>> There is no adjustment in the spider.
>>
>> Jim Combs (N312F)
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 3:33 AM, Ron McGann <ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com
>> <mailto:ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Gday all,
>>
>>
>> Since first flight, I have noticed that my #2 cylinder is
>> consistently hotter than the rest in all modes of flight except
>> cruise lean of peak. At peak, and lean of peak, #2 is consistently
>> cooler than the rest. I concluded that the fuel flow rate to
>> cylinder 2 was less the rest for some reason. At the suggestion of
>> one of our listers, I popped the top cowl and ran the coke bottle
>> test. This confirmed that fuel delivery to cylinder 2 was indeed
>> about 80% of that to the other cylinders.
>>
>> So, what to do? I removed the fuel line, cleaned it and could not
>> find any obvious obstruction. Since the flow test confirmed the
>> flow out of the line was less than the others, I can only conclude
>> that there is a problem with the spider. Are there any adjustments
>> that can be made? Sorry if this is a really lame question, but
>> engines are still a black art to me.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Ron
>>
>> VH-XRM, flying in Oz
>> *
>>
>> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>> tp://forums.matronics.com
>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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>>
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>>
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Subject: | Re: Torque Wrench |
I'd second that. The CDI brand torque wrenches work great. The only thing
I'd add it that you get the model that starts at 10 in/lbs instead of 20
in/lbs. AN3 nuts get tightened to 20-25 in/lbs and it best not to use a
wrench right at the starting value. I got a brand new cdi wrench on ebay
for $89. Deals can be had if you have the time to wait and look.
-Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AirMike
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 11:17 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Torque Wrench
You will be using it a lot, so you might as well get it now. The 1/4" drive
is the most used, but as you move to final assembly you need the others
sizes also. Since you are literally betting your life on it's measurement
get a good one that is calibrated. Otherwise buy a good used one that is
calibrated or get it calibrated. Cleveland tools
( cleavelandtoolstore.com )
sells a very good CDI branded wrench (calibrated) that is actually a
snap-on wrench (identical) except for the logo. It is not cheap (about $189)
but do you want to trust your torque values to a Harbor Freight wrench. Also
a couple of tubes of torque lacquer, so that you do not forget what you
worked on.
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Subject: | Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders |
I'm kind of surprised nobody asked.... but when you said the #2 cyl is hott
er,,,, are you talking egt or cht?=C2- If it's cht, maybe cut down the Va
n's airdam in front of the #2 cyl a little,,, talking egt, order a .0285 in
jector nozzle from Airflow Perf.
Have you done the LOP test which determines the fuel flow rate (gph) that e
ach cyl reaches LOP.=C2- Maybe one or more of the other cyl are way rich,
which is why they would be running cooler.
My .02 cents
Don McDonald
--- On Sun, 2/7/10, Jim Combs <jiminlexky@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Jim Combs <jiminlexky@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders
Ron,
Airflow Performance has injectors with inserts.=C2- Various inserts have
different diameters and will adjust fuel flow.=C2- They have a procedure
for checking and adjusting the fuel flows for balance.=C2- You should che
ck them out.
There is no adjustment in the spider.
Jim Combs (N312F)
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 3:33 AM, Ron McGann <ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com> wrote
:
G=99day all,
=C2-
Since first flight, I have noticed that my #2 cylinder is consistently hott
er than the rest in all modes of flight except cruise lean of peak.=C2- A
t peak, and lean of peak, #2 is consistently cooler than the rest.=C2- I
concluded that the fuel flow rate to cylinder 2 was less the rest for some
reason.=C2- At the suggestion of one of our listers, I popped the top cow
l and ran the =98coke bottle test=99.=C2- This confirmed that
fuel delivery to cylinder 2 was indeed about 80% of that to the other cyli
nders.=C2-
=C2-
So, what to do?=C2- I removed the fuel line, cleaned it and could not fin
d any obvious obstruction.=C2- Since the flow test confirmed the flow out
of the line was less than the others, I can only conclude that there is a
problem with the spider.=C2- Are there any adjustments that can be made?
=C2- Sorry if this is a really lame question, but engines are still a bla
ck art to me.
=C2-
Cheers,
Ron
VH-XRM, flying in Oz=C2-
get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
tp://forums.matronics.com
_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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Subject: | Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders |
Precision/bendix is the same thing, so this isn't unique to AFP.
Tim
On Feb 7, 2010, at 8:55 AM, Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
> >
>
> I'm not positive, but I think they're only for experimental
> aircraft. The really neat thing about AF injectors is that they
> change an insert instead of the whole injector body ..... making it
> much easier to change the injector orifice on a hot engine.
> Linn
>
> Jim Combs wrote:
>> Ron,
>> Airflow Performance has injectors with inserts. Various inserts
>> have different diameters and will adjust fuel flow. They have a
>> procedure for checking and adjusting the fuel flows for balance.
>> You should check them out.
>> There is no adjustment in the spider.
>> Jim Combs (N312F)
>> On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 3:33 AM, Ron McGann
>> <ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com <mailto:ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com>> wrote:
>> Gday all,
>> Since first flight, I have noticed that my #2 cylinder is
>> consistently hotter than the rest in all modes of flight except
>> cruise lean of peak. At peak, and lean of peak, #2 is
>> consistently
>> cooler than the rest. I concluded that the fuel flow rate to
>> cylinder 2 was less the rest for some reason. At the suggestion
>> of
>> one of our listers, I popped the top cowl and ran the coke bot
>> tle
>> test. This confirmed that fuel delivery to cylinder 2 was ind
>> eed
>> about 80% of that to the other cylinders. So, what to
>> do? I removed the fuel line, cleaned it and could not
>> find any obvious obstruction. Since the flow test confirmed the
>> flow out of the line was less than the others, I can only conclude
>> that there is a problem with the spider. Are there any
>> adjustments
>> that can be made? Sorry if this is a really lame question, but
>> engines are still a black art to me.
>> Cheers,
>> Ron
>> VH-XRM, flying in Oz *
>> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>> tp://forums.matronics.com
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Subject: | Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders |
By this, BTW, I mean that the injectors are the same. They're
just injectors. You can buy AFP inserts for your Precision/Bendix
injectors. As far as I know, the AFP difference is in the
servo and spider.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
Tim Olson wrote:
>
> Precision/bendix is the same thing, so this isn't unique to AFP.
> Tim
>
>
>
> On Feb 7, 2010, at 8:55 AM, Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm not positive, but I think they're only for experimental aircraft.
>> The really neat thing about AF injectors is that they change an insert
>> instead of the whole injector body ..... making it much easier to
>> change the injector orifice on a hot engine.
>> Linn
>>
>> Jim Combs wrote:
>>> Ron,
>>> Airflow Performance has injectors with inserts. Various inserts have
>>> different diameters and will adjust fuel flow. They have a procedure
>>> for checking and adjusting the fuel flows for balance. You should
>>> check them out.
>>> There is no adjustment in the spider.
>>> Jim Combs (N312F)
>>> On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 3:33 AM, Ron McGann <ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com
>>> <mailto:ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com>> wrote:
>>> Gday all,
>>> Since first flight, I have noticed that my #2 cylinder is
>>> consistently hotter than the rest in all modes of flight except
>>> cruise lean of peak. At peak, and lean of peak, #2 is consistently
>>> cooler than the rest. I concluded that the fuel flow rate to
>>> cylinder 2 was less the rest for some reason. At the suggestion of
>>> one of our listers, I popped the top cowl and ran the coke bottle
>>> test. This confirmed that fuel delivery to cylinder 2 was indeed
>>> about 80% of that to the other cylinders. So, what to
>>> do? I removed the fuel line, cleaned it and could not
>>> find any obvious obstruction. Since the flow test confirmed the
>>> flow out of the line was less than the others, I can only conclude
>>> that there is a problem with the spider. Are there any adjustments
>>> that can be made? Sorry if this is a really lame question, but
>>> engines are still a black art to me.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ron
>>> VH-XRM, flying in Oz *
>>> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>>> tp://forums.matronics.com
>>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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>>> *
>>> *
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Subject: | Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders |
To all get on the same page terminology wise AFP calls the inserts
Restrictors. The Restrictors fit into the injectors so I have one size
Injector but currently running 4 different size Restrictors.
A LOP test (or two) should show where the cylinder is (rich or lean)
relative to the other cylinders.
Robin
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Subject: | RV-10 Cutaway Drawing |
I don't know how many folks have followed the Cutaway RV Drawing thread on
VAF. (http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=38927) I have
taken an interest and wanted to share with the RV-10 community to gather
more interest.
Here is an example of the RV-7A Slider:
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/9931/rv7aflatsliderfinale.jpg
To get a RV-10 version commissioned and started, Tom needs a demonstrated
interest from the RV-10 community. I'm interested in getting one and I
thought I would post here to encourage others that may be interested to
order as well.
To order, just send an email to tjtechart@comcast.net and let Tom know which
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Subject: | Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders |
Not all Bendix injectors are two piece, so you couldn't put inserts in
the older one piece. And the inserts would not be legal in a certified
engine. But if AFP system should be no issue.
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>
> By this, BTW, I mean that the injectors are the same. They're
> just injectors. You can buy AFP inserts for your Precision/Bendix
> injectors. As far as I know, the AFP difference is in the
> servo and spider.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
>
>
> Tim Olson wrote:
>>
>>
>> Precision/bendix is the same thing, so this isn't unique to AFP.
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 7, 2010, at 8:55 AM, Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I'm not positive, but I think they're only for experimental aircraft. The
>>> really neat thing about AF injectors is that they change an insert instead
>>> of the whole injector body ..... making it much easier to change the
>>> injector orifice on a hot engine.
>>> Linn
>>>
>>> Jim Combs wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ron,
>>>> Airflow Performance has injectors with inserts. Various inserts have
>>>> different diameters and will adjust fuel flow. They have a procedure for
>>>> checking and adjusting the fuel flows for balance. You should check them
>>>> out.
>>>> There is no adjustment in the spider.
>>>> Jim Combs (N312F)
>>>> On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 3:33 AM, Ron McGann <ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com
>>>> <mailto:ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com>> wrote:
>>>> Gday all,
>>>> Since first flight, I have noticed that my #2 cylinder is
>>>> consistently hotter than the rest in all modes of flight except
>>>> cruise lean of peak. At peak, and lean of peak, #2 is consistently
>>>> cooler than the rest. I concluded that the fuel flow rate to
>>>> cylinder 2 was less the rest for some reason. At the suggestion of
>>>> one of our listers, I popped the top cowl and ran the coke bottle
>>>> test. This confirmed that fuel delivery to cylinder 2 was indeed
>>>> about 80% of that to the other cylinders. So, what to do? I
>>>> removed the fuel line, cleaned it and could not
>>>> find any obvious obstruction. Since the flow test confirmed the
>>>> flow out of the line was less than the others, I can only conclude
>>>> that there is a problem with the spider. Are there any adjustments
>>>> that can be made? Sorry if this is a really lame question, but
>>>> engines are still a black art to me.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ron
>>>> VH-XRM, flying in Oz *
>>>> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>>>> tp://forums.matronics.com
>>>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Subject: | Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders |
Thx guys - keep the responses coming. I should point out that I did the fuel flow
test with the fuel lines disconnected from the injectors, so this is raw flow
from the spider down the fuel line only. I don't see how adding inserts/restrictors
is going to help my case.
Cheers,
Ron
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
Sent: Monday, 8 February 2010 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders
Not all Bendix injectors are two piece, so you couldn't put inserts in the older
one piece. And the inserts would not be legal in a certified engine. But if
AFP system should be no issue.
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>
> By this, BTW, I mean that the injectors are the same. They're just
> injectors. You can buy AFP inserts for your Precision/Bendix
> injectors. As far as I know, the AFP difference is in the servo and
> spider.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
>
>
> Tim Olson wrote:
>>
>>
>> Precision/bendix is the same thing, so this isn't unique to AFP.
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 7, 2010, at 8:55 AM, Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> --> <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
>>>
>>> I'm not positive, but I think they're only for experimental
>>> aircraft. The really neat thing about AF injectors is that they
>>> change an insert instead of the whole injector body ..... making it
>>> much easier to change the injector orifice on a hot engine.
>>> Linn
>>>
>>> Jim Combs wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ron,
>>>> Airflow Performance has injectors with inserts. Various inserts
>>>> have different diameters and will adjust fuel flow. They have a
>>>> procedure for checking and adjusting the fuel flows for balance.
>>>> You should check them out.
>>>> There is no adjustment in the spider.
>>>> Jim Combs (N312F)
>>>> On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 3:33 AM, Ron McGann
>>>> <ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com <mailto:ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com>> wrote:
>>>> G'day all,
>>>> Since first flight, I have noticed that my #2 cylinder is
>>>> consistently hotter than the rest in all modes of flight except
>>>> cruise lean of peak. At peak, and lean of peak, #2 is
>>>> consistently
>>>> cooler than the rest. I concluded that the fuel flow rate to
>>>> cylinder 2 was less the rest for some reason. At the suggestion
>>>> of
>>>> one of our listers, I popped the top cowl and ran the 'coke
>>>> bottle
>>>> test'. This confirmed that fuel delivery to cylinder 2 was
>>>> indeed
>>>> about 80% of that to the other cylinders. So, what to
>>>> do? I removed the fuel line, cleaned it and could not
>>>> find any obvious obstruction. Since the flow test confirmed the
>>>> flow out of the line was less than the others, I can only
>>>> conclude
>>>> that there is a problem with the spider. Are there any
>>>> adjustments
>>>> that can be made? Sorry if this is a really lame question, but
>>>> engines are still a black art to me.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ron
>>>> VH-XRM, flying in Oz *
>>>> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>>>> tp://forums.matronics.com
>>>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders |
Unrestricted flow without injectors is NOT meaningful. There would be
way more flow than you would ever get through the injectors. You need
to redo the test with injectors after ensuring the offending injector
is truly clean. Then consult with AFS or GAMI as to revision needed.
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 6:33 PM, McGann, Ron <Ron.McGann@ausawd.com> wrote:
>
> Thx guys - keep the responses coming. I should point out that I did the fuel
flow test with the fuel lines disconnected from the injectors, so this is raw
flow from the spider down the fuel line only. I don't see how adding inserts/restrictors
is going to help my case.
>
> Cheers,
> Ron
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
> Sent: Monday, 8 February 2010 8:15 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders
>
>
> Not all Bendix injectors are two piece, so you couldn't put inserts in the older
one piece. And the inserts would not be legal in a certified engine. But if
AFP system should be no issue.
>
> On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>>
>> By this, BTW, I mean that the injectors are the same. They're just
>> injectors. You can buy AFP inserts for your Precision/Bendix
>> injectors. As far as I know, the AFP difference is in the servo and
>> spider.
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>> Tim Olson wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Precision/bendix is the same thing, so this isn't unique to AFP.
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 7, 2010, at 8:55 AM, Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> --> <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
>>>>
>>>> I'm not positive, but I think they're only for experimental
>>>> aircraft. The really neat thing about AF injectors is that they
>>>> change an insert instead of the whole injector body ..... making it
>>>> much easier to change the injector orifice on a hot engine.
>>>> Linn
>>>>
>>>> Jim Combs wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ron,
>>>>> Airflow Performance has injectors with inserts. Various inserts
>>>>> have different diameters and will adjust fuel flow. They have a
>>>>> procedure for checking and adjusting the fuel flows for balance.
>>>>> You should check them out.
>>>>> There is no adjustment in the spider.
>>>>> Jim Combs (N312F)
>>>>> On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 3:33 AM, Ron McGann
>>>>> <ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com <mailto:ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com>> wrote:
>>>>> G'day all,
>>>>> Since first flight, I have noticed that my #2 cylinder is
>>>>> consistently hotter than the rest in all modes of flight except
>>>>> cruise lean of peak. At peak, and lean of peak, #2 is
>>>>> consistently
>>>>> cooler than the rest. I concluded that the fuel flow rate to
>>>>> cylinder 2 was less the rest for some reason. At the suggestion
>>>>> of
>>>>> one of our listers, I popped the top cowl and ran the 'coke
>>>>> bottle
>>>>> test'. This confirmed that fuel delivery to cylinder 2 was
>>>>> indeed
>>>>> about 80% of that to the other cylinders. So, what to
>>>>> do? I removed the fuel line, cleaned it and could not
>>>>> find any obvious obstruction. Since the flow test confirmed the
>>>>> flow out of the line was less than the others, I can only
>>>>> conclude
>>>>> that there is a problem with the spider. Are there any
>>>>> adjustments
>>>>> that can be made? Sorry if this is a really lame question, but
>>>>> engines are still a black art to me.
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Ron
>>>>> VH-XRM, flying in Oz *
>>>>> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>>>>> tp://forums.matronics.com
>>>>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>>>> *
>>>>> *
>>>>> *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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What route did you take to get wiring back to the tail/rudder?
Linn
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Along one of the J-channels on the right side. Just lay the wire in
there and fasten with tie wraps through holes in the J-channel. I
believe that was how it was suggested in the Vans wiring plan.
Great game
Bill
Linn Walters wrote:
>
> What route did you take to get wiring back to the tail/rudder?
> Linn
>
>
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Pilot (left) side, 2nd J channel down from the longeron. laid the wire
in the channel and drilled #40 holes to tie the wire down with wax lace.
Larry Rosen
Linn Walters wrote:
>
> What route did you take to get wiring back to the tail/rudder?
> Linn
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders |
Sorry, I should have said the normal newer Precision stuff.
For many people it'll be a new rebuild with something like
an AFP or silverhawk system. Of course some people will
have older engines with the older Bendix systems too....so
that wouldn't apply I guess. And you're right...swapping
inserts isn't A.O.K. on certifieds...only us experimentals.
Chalk that up as just one more think that sets the category
apart. Man, I don't know if I could ever go back to certified
with the amazing number of benefits to experimental.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
Kelly McMullen wrote:
>
> Not all Bendix injectors are two piece, so you couldn't put inserts in
> the older one piece. And the inserts would not be legal in a certified
> engine. But if AFP system should be no issue.
>
> On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>>
>> By this, BTW, I mean that the injectors are the same. They're
>> just injectors. You can buy AFP inserts for your Precision/Bendix
>> injectors. As far as I know, the AFP difference is in the
>> servo and spider.
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>> Tim Olson wrote:
>>>
>>> Precision/bendix is the same thing, so this isn't unique to AFP.
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 7, 2010, at 8:55 AM, Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm not positive, but I think they're only for experimental aircraft. The
>>>> really neat thing about AF injectors is that they change an insert instead
>>>> of the whole injector body ..... making it much easier to change the
>>>> injector orifice on a hot engine.
>>>> Linn
>>>>
>>>> Jim Combs wrote:
>>>>> Ron,
>>>>> Airflow Performance has injectors with inserts. Various inserts have
>>>>> different diameters and will adjust fuel flow. They have a procedure for
>>>>> checking and adjusting the fuel flows for balance. You should check them
>>>>> out.
>>>>> There is no adjustment in the spider.
>>>>> Jim Combs (N312F)
>>>>> On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 3:33 AM, Ron McGann <ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com
>>>>> <mailto:ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com>> wrote:
>>>>> Gday all,
>>>>> Since first flight, I have noticed that my #2 cylinder is
>>>>> consistently hotter than the rest in all modes of flight except
>>>>> cruise lean of peak. At peak, and lean of peak, #2 is consistently
>>>>> cooler than the rest. I concluded that the fuel flow rate to
>>>>> cylinder 2 was less the rest for some reason. At the suggestion of
>>>>> one of our listers, I popped the top cowl and ran the coke bottle
>>>>> test. This confirmed that fuel delivery to cylinder 2 was indeed
>>>>> about 80% of that to the other cylinders. So, what to do? I
>>>>> removed the fuel line, cleaned it and could not
>>>>> find any obvious obstruction. Since the flow test confirmed the
>>>>> flow out of the line was less than the others, I can only conclude
>>>>> that there is a problem with the spider. Are there any adjustments
>>>>> that can be made? Sorry if this is a really lame question, but
>>>>> engines are still a black art to me.
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Ron
>>>>> VH-XRM, flying in Oz *
>>>>> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>>>>> tp://forums.matronics.com
>>>>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>>>> *
>>>>> *
>>>>> *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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is anyone taking reservations for camping this year? we haven't decided on
hotel or tent. Expect to arrive Sunday and leave Wednesday. Probably can
tent camp with the spam cans. Probably be better to camp in Scholer in RV10
village.
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Subject: | Windshield fairing |
I am about to make my windshield fairing. Are there any tips or
pointers anyone would like to share before I begin?
I am using black dye in the epoxy.
Dave Leikam
RV-10 #40496
N89DA
Muskego, WI
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