RV10-List Digest Archive

Sun 02/07/10


Total Messages Posted: 23



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:37 AM - Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders (Ron McGann)
     2. 04:39 AM - Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders (Kelly McMullen)
     3. 06:05 AM - Re: Re: New Door Latch Video S.B. replacement (Bob Kaufmann)
     4. 06:05 AM - Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders (Jim Combs)
     5. 06:24 AM - Re: Re: New Door Latch Video S.B. replacement (Patrick Thyssen)
     6. 07:00 AM - Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders (Linn Walters)
     7. 07:17 AM - Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders (Linn Walters)
     8. 07:38 AM - Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders (Kelly McMullen)
     9. 08:55 AM - Re: Re: Torque Wrench (Ben Westfall)
    10. 08:55 AM - Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders (Don McDonald)
    11. 08:56 AM - Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders (Tim Olson)
    12. 09:50 AM - Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders (Tim Olson)
    13. 10:27 AM - Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders (Robin Marks)
    14. 11:59 AM - RV-10 Cutaway Drawing (Bob Leffler)
    15. 01:36 PM - Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders (Kelly McMullen)
    16. 05:58 PM - Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders (McGann, Ron)
    17. 06:49 PM - Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders (Kelly McMullen)
    18. 07:05 PM - wiring (Linn Walters)
    19. 07:21 PM - Re: wiring (Bill Mauledriver Watson)
    20. 07:31 PM - Re: wiring (Larry Rosen)
    21. 08:07 PM - Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders (Tim Olson)
    22. 08:52 PM - OSH camping (DLM)
    23. 08:57 PM - Windshield fairing (Dave Leikam)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:37:24 AM PST US
    From: "Ron McGann" <ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com>
    Subject: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders
    G'day all, Since first flight, I have noticed that my #2 cylinder is consistently hotter than the rest in all modes of flight except cruise lean of peak. At peak, and lean of peak, #2 is consistently cooler than the rest. I concluded that the fuel flow rate to cylinder 2 was less the rest for some reason. At the suggestion of one of our listers, I popped the top cowl and ran the 'coke bottle test'. This confirmed that fuel delivery to cylinder 2 was indeed about 80% of that to the other cylinders. So, what to do? I removed the fuel line, cleaned it and could not find any obvious obstruction. Since the flow test confirmed the flow out of the line was less than the others, I can only conclude that there is a problem with the spider. Are there any adjustments that can be made? Sorry if this is a really lame question, but engines are still a black art to me. Cheers, Ron VH-XRM, flying in Oz


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    Time: 04:39:12 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders
    From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
    Was your test with the injector or without it? If with, swap that injector with your richest cylinder. If without, I'm not sure how relevant it is without the back pressure of the injector. I'm not aware of any adjustments in the spider. I suppose it could have a bit of dirt/debris inside it. Ordinarily all 4 injectors see the same pressure, and it is the injector that determines actual flow. That is why GAMI is able to adjust flow by providing accurate flow measured injectors selected to match the airflow each cylinder sees. The fuel servo controls the fuel pressure to the spider (flow divider) which simply splits the flow into 6 lines, and has a low pressure cutoff to stop flow when you go to idle cutoff. All 6 injectors should see the same pressure, and the size of the orifice controls the flow volume into the manifold. I would soak that injector in Hoppe's #9 gun cleaner for about 30 min. then blow out with compressed air. Do not leave the injector in the solution too long as it can actually affect the metal over time. If that doesn't change anything, try an injector swap. If the problem moves with the injector, you know you need a new injector. On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 1:33 AM, Ron McGann <ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com> wrote: > Gday all, > > > Since first flight, I have noticed that my #2 cylinder is consistently > hotter than the rest in all modes of flight except cruise lean of peak. fuel delivery to cylinder 2 > was indeed about 80% of that to the other cylinders. > > > So, what to do? I removed the fuel line, cleaned it and could not find any > obvious obstruction. Since the flow test confirmed the flow out of the line > was less than the others, I can only conclude that there is a problem with > the spider. Are there any adjustments that can be made? Sorry if this is a > really lame question, but engines are still a black art to me. > > > Cheers, > > Ron > > VH-XRM, flying in Oz > >


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    Time: 06:05:51 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Kaufmann" <bob.kaufmann@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: New Door Latch Video S.B. replacement
    I would like a set. Bob Kaufmann -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Strasnuts Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 9:37 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: New Door Latch Video S.B. replacement For all of you that are close to installing the doors and want my system, don't cut your rack gears from Vans where they tell you. Cut them in half, right down the middle or wait for the instructions with my kit. This way I (or you)can make 180 degrees of travel on your handle. Retrofit kits will have the option of buying 90 degree kits for already cut racks or 180 degree kits that include new racks for the handles. The 180 degree kits will cost a little extra for the material. For those of you who want retrofit kits you will have to decide on whether you want the door to be pulled in before pin penetration and 1-1/4 of pin travel past the door or 90 degree kits that hold the door closed and tight in the middle preventing bulging and the same pin extension. -------- Cust. #40936 RV-10 SB Fuselage N801VR reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=285181#285181


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    Time: 06:05:51 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders
    From: Jim Combs <jiminlexky@gmail.com>
    Ron, Airflow Performance has injectors with inserts. Various inserts have different diameters and will adjust fuel flow. They have a procedure for checking and adjusting the fuel flows for balance. You should check them out. There is no adjustment in the spider. Jim Combs (N312F) On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 3:33 AM, Ron McGann <ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com> wrote : > G=92day all, > > > Since first flight, I have noticed that my #2 cylinder is consistently > hotter than the rest in all modes of flight except cruise lean of peak. At > peak, and lean of peak, #2 is consistently cooler than the rest. I > concluded that the fuel flow rate to cylinder 2 was less the rest for som e > reason. At the suggestion of one of our listers, I popped the top cowl a nd > ran the =91coke bottle test=92. This confirmed that fuel delivery to cyl inder 2 > was indeed about 80% of that to the other cylinders. > > > So, what to do? I removed the fuel line, cleaned it and could not find a ny > obvious obstruction. Since the flow test confirmed the flow out of the l ine > was less than the others, I can only conclude that there is a problem wit h > the spider. Are there any adjustments that can be made? Sorry if this i s a > really lame question, but engines are still a black art to me. > > > Cheers, > > Ron > > VH-XRM, flying in Oz > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > >


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    Time: 06:24:46 AM PST US
    From: Patrick Thyssen <jump2@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: New Door Latch Video S.B. replacement
    I would be very interested in getting one. Let us know what the cost is. Patrick Thyssen n15pt 40257 --- On Sat, 2/6/10, Strasnuts <sean@braunandco.com> wrote: From: Strasnuts <sean@braunandco.com> Subject: RV10-List: Re: New Door Latch Video S.B. replacement Thanks Robert. It could be retro-fitted.- The only new holes are four screw holes, a 5/1 6 hole to tighten a screw and an opening in the bottom of the door to slide in the mechanism which is about 2-1/8 inches x 3/4 which could be filled i n with a fiberglass piece. I'm thinking about making a bunch of these and having the builders install them.- Haven't thought about cost. -------- Cust. #40936 RV-10 SB Fuselage N801VR reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=285102#285102 le, List Admin.


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    Time: 07:00:12 AM PST US
    From: Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders
    I'm not positive, but I think they're only for experimental aircraft. The really neat thing about AF injectors is that they change an insert instead of the whole injector body ..... making it much easier to change the injector orifice on a hot engine. Linn Jim Combs wrote: > Ron, > > Airflow Performance has injectors with inserts. Various inserts have > different diameters and will adjust fuel flow. They have a procedure > for checking and adjusting the fuel flows for balance. You should check > them out. > > There is no adjustment in the spider. > > Jim Combs (N312F) > > On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 3:33 AM, Ron McGann <ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com > <mailto:ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com>> wrote: > > Gday all, > > > > Since first flight, I have noticed that my #2 cylinder is > consistently hotter than the rest in all modes of flight except > cruise lean of peak. At peak, and lean of peak, #2 is consistently > cooler than the rest. I concluded that the fuel flow rate to > cylinder 2 was less the rest for some reason. At the suggestion of > one of our listers, I popped the top cowl and ran the coke bottle > test. This confirmed that fuel delivery to cylinder 2 was indeed > about 80% of that to the other cylinders. > > > > So, what to do? I removed the fuel line, cleaned it and could not > find any obvious obstruction. Since the flow test confirmed the > flow out of the line was less than the others, I can only conclude > that there is a problem with the spider. Are there any adjustments > that can be made? Sorry if this is a really lame question, but > engines are still a black art to me. > > > > Cheers, > > Ron > > VH-XRM, flying in Oz > > * > > get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > * > > > * > > > *


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    Time: 07:17:35 AM PST US
    From: Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders
    Sorry guys ... thought this was on another list about injectors!!! Linn do not archive! Linn Walters wrote: > > I'm not positive, but I think they're only for experimental aircraft. > The really neat thing about AF injectors is that they change an insert > instead of the whole injector body ..... making it much easier to change > the injector orifice on a hot engine. > Linn > > Jim Combs wrote: >> Ron, >> >> Airflow Performance has injectors with inserts. Various inserts have >> different diameters and will adjust fuel flow. They have a procedure >> for checking and adjusting the fuel flows for balance. You should >> check them out. >> >> There is no adjustment in the spider. >> >> Jim Combs (N312F) >> >> On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 3:33 AM, Ron McGann <ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com >> <mailto:ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com>> wrote: >> >> Gday all, >> >> >> Since first flight, I have noticed that my #2 cylinder is >> consistently hotter than the rest in all modes of flight except >> cruise lean of peak. At peak, and lean of peak, #2 is consistently >> cooler than the rest. I concluded that the fuel flow rate to >> cylinder 2 was less the rest for some reason. At the suggestion of >> one of our listers, I popped the top cowl and ran the coke bottle >> test. This confirmed that fuel delivery to cylinder 2 was indeed >> about 80% of that to the other cylinders. >> >> So, what to do? I removed the fuel line, cleaned it and could not >> find any obvious obstruction. Since the flow test confirmed the >> flow out of the line was less than the others, I can only conclude >> that there is a problem with the spider. Are there any adjustments >> that can be made? Sorry if this is a really lame question, but >> engines are still a black art to me. >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Ron >> >> VH-XRM, flying in Oz >> * >> >> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> * >> >> >> * >> >> >> * > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:38:23 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders
    From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
    I believe you are correct re experimental only. I darn sure would NOT want to be messing with injector lines and liquid avgas on top of a hot engine, without a nomex suit and a couple fire guards standing by. On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 7:55 AM, Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > I'm not positive, but I think they're only for experimental aircraft. The > really neat thing about AF injectors is that they change an insert instead > of the whole injector body ..... making it much easier to change the > injector orifice on a hot engine. > Linn > > Jim Combs wrote: >> >> Ron, >> >> Airflow Performance has injectors with inserts. Various inserts have >> different diameters and will adjust fuel flow. They have a procedure for >> checking and adjusting the fuel flows for balance. You should check them >> out. >> >> There is no adjustment in the spider. >> >> Jim Combs (N312F) >> >> On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 3:33 AM, Ron McGann <ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com >> <mailto:ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com>> wrote: >> >> Gday all, >> >> >> Since first flight, I have noticed that my #2 cylinder is >> consistently hotter than the rest in all modes of flight except >> cruise lean of peak. At peak, and lean of peak, #2 is consistently >> cooler than the rest. I concluded that the fuel flow rate to >> cylinder 2 was less the rest for some reason. At the suggestion of >> one of our listers, I popped the top cowl and ran the coke bottle >> test. This confirmed that fuel delivery to cylinder 2 was indeed >> about 80% of that to the other cylinders. >> >> So, what to do? I removed the fuel line, cleaned it and could not >> find any obvious obstruction. Since the flow test confirmed the >> flow out of the line was less than the others, I can only conclude >> that there is a problem with the spider. Are there any adjustments >> that can be made? Sorry if this is a really lame question, but >> engines are still a black art to me. >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Ron >> >> VH-XRM, flying in Oz >> * >> >> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> * >> >> >> * >> >> >> * > >


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    Time: 08:55:19 AM PST US
    From: "Ben Westfall" <rv10@sinkrate.com>
    Subject: Re: Torque Wrench
    I'd second that. The CDI brand torque wrenches work great. The only thing I'd add it that you get the model that starts at 10 in/lbs instead of 20 in/lbs. AN3 nuts get tightened to 20-25 in/lbs and it best not to use a wrench right at the starting value. I got a brand new cdi wrench on ebay for $89. Deals can be had if you have the time to wait and look. -Ben -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AirMike Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 11:17 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Torque Wrench You will be using it a lot, so you might as well get it now. The 1/4" drive is the most used, but as you move to final assembly you need the others sizes also. Since you are literally betting your life on it's measurement get a good one that is calibrated. Otherwise buy a good used one that is calibrated or get it calibrated. Cleveland tools ( cleavelandtoolstore.com ) sells a very good CDI branded wrench (calibrated) that is actually a snap-on wrench (identical) except for the logo. It is not cheap (about $189) but do you want to trust your torque values to a Harbor Freight wrench. Also a couple of tubes of torque lacquer, so that you do not forget what you worked on. -------- OSH '10 or Bust Q/B - testing phase 1


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    Time: 08:55:19 AM PST US
    From: Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders
    I'm kind of surprised nobody asked.... but when you said the #2 cyl is hott er,,,, are you talking egt or cht?=C2- If it's cht, maybe cut down the Va n's airdam in front of the #2 cyl a little,,, talking egt, order a .0285 in jector nozzle from Airflow Perf. Have you done the LOP test which determines the fuel flow rate (gph) that e ach cyl reaches LOP.=C2- Maybe one or more of the other cyl are way rich, which is why they would be running cooler. My .02 cents Don McDonald --- On Sun, 2/7/10, Jim Combs <jiminlexky@gmail.com> wrote: From: Jim Combs <jiminlexky@gmail.com> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders Ron, Airflow Performance has injectors with inserts.=C2- Various inserts have different diameters and will adjust fuel flow.=C2- They have a procedure for checking and adjusting the fuel flows for balance.=C2- You should che ck them out. There is no adjustment in the spider. Jim Combs (N312F) On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 3:33 AM, Ron McGann <ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com> wrote : G=99day all, =C2- Since first flight, I have noticed that my #2 cylinder is consistently hott er than the rest in all modes of flight except cruise lean of peak.=C2- A t peak, and lean of peak, #2 is consistently cooler than the rest.=C2- I concluded that the fuel flow rate to cylinder 2 was less the rest for some reason.=C2- At the suggestion of one of our listers, I popped the top cow l and ran the =98coke bottle test=99.=C2- This confirmed that fuel delivery to cylinder 2 was indeed about 80% of that to the other cyli nders.=C2- =C2- So, what to do?=C2- I removed the fuel line, cleaned it and could not fin d any obvious obstruction.=C2- Since the flow test confirmed the flow out of the line was less than the others, I can only conclude that there is a problem with the spider.=C2- Are there any adjustments that can be made? =C2- Sorry if this is a really lame question, but engines are still a bla ck art to me. =C2- Cheers, Ron VH-XRM, flying in Oz=C2- get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 08:56:26 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders
    Precision/bendix is the same thing, so this isn't unique to AFP. Tim On Feb 7, 2010, at 8:55 AM, Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > I'm not positive, but I think they're only for experimental > aircraft. The really neat thing about AF injectors is that they > change an insert instead of the whole injector body ..... making it > much easier to change the injector orifice on a hot engine. > Linn > > Jim Combs wrote: >> Ron, >> Airflow Performance has injectors with inserts. Various inserts >> have different diameters and will adjust fuel flow. They have a >> procedure for checking and adjusting the fuel flows for balance. >> You should check them out. >> There is no adjustment in the spider. >> Jim Combs (N312F) >> On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 3:33 AM, Ron McGann >> <ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com <mailto:ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com>> wrote: >> Gday all, >> Since first flight, I have noticed that my #2 cylinder is >> consistently hotter than the rest in all modes of flight except >> cruise lean of peak. At peak, and lean of peak, #2 is >> consistently >> cooler than the rest. I concluded that the fuel flow rate to >> cylinder 2 was less the rest for some reason. At the suggestion >> of >> one of our listers, I popped the top cowl and ran the coke bot >> tle >> test. This confirmed that fuel delivery to cylinder 2 was ind >> eed >> about 80% of that to the other cylinders. So, what to >> do? I removed the fuel line, cleaned it and could not >> find any obvious obstruction. Since the flow test confirmed the >> flow out of the line was less than the others, I can only conclude >> that there is a problem with the spider. Are there any >> adjustments >> that can be made? Sorry if this is a really lame question, but >> engines are still a black art to me. >> Cheers, >> Ron >> VH-XRM, flying in Oz * >> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> * >> * >> * > >


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    Time: 09:50:07 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders
    By this, BTW, I mean that the injectors are the same. They're just injectors. You can buy AFP inserts for your Precision/Bendix injectors. As far as I know, the AFP difference is in the servo and spider. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive Tim Olson wrote: > > Precision/bendix is the same thing, so this isn't unique to AFP. > Tim > > > > On Feb 7, 2010, at 8:55 AM, Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> wrote: > >> >> I'm not positive, but I think they're only for experimental aircraft. >> The really neat thing about AF injectors is that they change an insert >> instead of the whole injector body ..... making it much easier to >> change the injector orifice on a hot engine. >> Linn >> >> Jim Combs wrote: >>> Ron, >>> Airflow Performance has injectors with inserts. Various inserts have >>> different diameters and will adjust fuel flow. They have a procedure >>> for checking and adjusting the fuel flows for balance. You should >>> check them out. >>> There is no adjustment in the spider. >>> Jim Combs (N312F) >>> On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 3:33 AM, Ron McGann <ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com >>> <mailto:ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com>> wrote: >>> Gday all, >>> Since first flight, I have noticed that my #2 cylinder is >>> consistently hotter than the rest in all modes of flight except >>> cruise lean of peak. At peak, and lean of peak, #2 is consistently >>> cooler than the rest. I concluded that the fuel flow rate to >>> cylinder 2 was less the rest for some reason. At the suggestion of >>> one of our listers, I popped the top cowl and ran the coke bottle >>> test. This confirmed that fuel delivery to cylinder 2 was indeed >>> about 80% of that to the other cylinders. So, what to >>> do? I removed the fuel line, cleaned it and could not >>> find any obvious obstruction. Since the flow test confirmed the >>> flow out of the line was less than the others, I can only conclude >>> that there is a problem with the spider. Are there any adjustments >>> that can be made? Sorry if this is a really lame question, but >>> engines are still a black art to me. >>> Cheers, >>> Ron >>> VH-XRM, flying in Oz * >>> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >>> tp://forums.matronics.com >>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> * >>> * >>> * >> >> >> >> > > > > >


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    Time: 10:27:03 AM PST US
    Subject: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders
    From: "Robin Marks" <robin1@mrmoisture.com>
    To all get on the same page terminology wise AFP calls the inserts Restrictors. The Restrictors fit into the injectors so I have one size Injector but currently running 4 different size Restrictors. A LOP test (or two) should show where the cylinder is (rich or lean) relative to the other cylinders. Robin


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    Time: 11:59:06 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Leffler" <rv@thelefflers.com>
    Subject: RV-10 Cutaway Drawing
    I don't know how many folks have followed the Cutaway RV Drawing thread on VAF. (http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=38927) I have taken an interest and wanted to share with the RV-10 community to gather more interest. Here is an example of the RV-7A Slider: http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/9931/rv7aflatsliderfinale.jpg To get a RV-10 version commissioned and started, Tom needs a demonstrated interest from the RV-10 community. I'm interested in getting one and I thought I would post here to encourage others that may be interested to order as well. To order, just send an email to tjtechart@comcast.net and let Tom know which model you want and whether you want a limited edition or an open edition print. If you want an open edition, let us know if you want an 18x24 or 24x36. No money is collected until the project starts. The following is an overview of what's involved in the project and the different types of prints available. Research (approximately 50 hours including travel) Access to engineering plans and actual RV's. I have already contacted Vans' Aircraft who have given me a thumbs up "go", and they are willing to provide access to plans. I'm confident there are enough RVs in the Portland area for final close-up access to a finished plane(s). Hand created draft (about 200 hours) Pencil the detailed draft. This is the phase that makes my art unique. I do this phase by hand because it adds a unique perspective and fine art quality-like Leonardo DaVinci. Also because it's more like building the real plane, which is essentially what I must do to create these images. Final details and painting (about 100 hours) Load the draft into the computer for completion and painting. Send to the Printer. Tom will bill the retainer through PayPal once the required number of orders is reached. Once all retainers (50%) have been received, I will schedule in the project, which will take approximately 8 weeks to complete. Available prints and pricing: 18" X 24" on archival paper............................................. ...$45.00 +S/H** 24" X 36" on archival paper............................................. ...$65.00 +S/H** Fine-art 24" X 36" limited edition of 100 *giclee prints..........$200.00 + S/H** Custom prints: an exclusive cutaway of your personal aircraft with your paint scheme and specific details. By quote only, the price will be determined by the complexity of paint scheme and level of detail desired. A 50% deposit will be required on these special projects to secure a position in the queue. They will be scheduled in the order received after completion. Custom cutaways generally range between $500 - $1500. I have done some of these works for Pitts Model 12 customers and they have been extremely pleased with the final result. *a giclee is digital print that is the highest quality reproduction available. These are fine-art prints produced on museum quality acid-free paper using non-fading special inks. When framed properly, these prints have non-fading life expectancy of 100 years. These must be printed one at a time at ultra-high resolution for maximum detail. They take about 1 hour each to print and are dazzling. **Shipping and handling includes actual shipping charge and packing tube. Within the US this is $15.00. Overseas rates vary. (Inquire for rates) Artwork is always copyrighted with all rights retained by TJTechArt, Inc.


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    Time: 01:36:02 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders
    From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
    Not all Bendix injectors are two piece, so you couldn't put inserts in the older one piece. And the inserts would not be legal in a certified engine. But if AFP system should be no issue. On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote: > > By this, BTW, I mean that the injectors are the same. They're > just injectors. You can buy AFP inserts for your Precision/Bendix > injectors. As far as I know, the AFP difference is in the > servo and spider. > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD > do not archive > > > Tim Olson wrote: >> >> >> Precision/bendix is the same thing, so this isn't unique to AFP. >> Tim >> >> >> >> On Feb 7, 2010, at 8:55 AM, Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> I'm not positive, but I think they're only for experimental aircraft. The >>> really neat thing about AF injectors is that they change an insert instead >>> of the whole injector body ..... making it much easier to change the >>> injector orifice on a hot engine. >>> Linn >>> >>> Jim Combs wrote: >>>> >>>> Ron, >>>> Airflow Performance has injectors with inserts. Various inserts have >>>> different diameters and will adjust fuel flow. They have a procedure for >>>> checking and adjusting the fuel flows for balance. You should check them >>>> out. >>>> There is no adjustment in the spider. >>>> Jim Combs (N312F) >>>> On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 3:33 AM, Ron McGann <ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com >>>> <mailto:ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com>> wrote: >>>> Gday all, >>>> Since first flight, I have noticed that my #2 cylinder is >>>> consistently hotter than the rest in all modes of flight except >>>> cruise lean of peak. At peak, and lean of peak, #2 is consistently >>>> cooler than the rest. I concluded that the fuel flow rate to >>>> cylinder 2 was less the rest for some reason. At the suggestion of >>>> one of our listers, I popped the top cowl and ran the coke bottle >>>> test. This confirmed that fuel delivery to cylinder 2 was indeed >>>> about 80% of that to the other cylinders. So, what to do? I >>>> removed the fuel line, cleaned it and could not >>>> find any obvious obstruction. Since the flow test confirmed the >>>> flow out of the line was less than the others, I can only conclude >>>> that there is a problem with the spider. Are there any adjustments >>>> that can be made? Sorry if this is a really lame question, but >>>> engines are still a black art to me. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Ron >>>> VH-XRM, flying in Oz * >>>> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >>>> tp://forums.matronics.com >>>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>>> * >>>> * >>>> * >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 05:58:51 PM PST US
    From: "McGann, Ron" <Ron.McGann@ausawd.com>
    Subject: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders
    Thx guys - keep the responses coming. I should point out that I did the fuel flow test with the fuel lines disconnected from the injectors, so this is raw flow from the spider down the fuel line only. I don't see how adding inserts/restrictors is going to help my case. Cheers, Ron -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen Sent: Monday, 8 February 2010 8:15 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders Not all Bendix injectors are two piece, so you couldn't put inserts in the older one piece. And the inserts would not be legal in a certified engine. But if AFP system should be no issue. On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote: > > By this, BTW, I mean that the injectors are the same. They're just > injectors. You can buy AFP inserts for your Precision/Bendix > injectors. As far as I know, the AFP difference is in the servo and > spider. > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD > do not archive > > > Tim Olson wrote: >> >> >> Precision/bendix is the same thing, so this isn't unique to AFP. >> Tim >> >> >> >> On Feb 7, 2010, at 8:55 AM, Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> >> wrote: >> >>> --> <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> >>> >>> I'm not positive, but I think they're only for experimental >>> aircraft. The really neat thing about AF injectors is that they >>> change an insert instead of the whole injector body ..... making it >>> much easier to change the injector orifice on a hot engine. >>> Linn >>> >>> Jim Combs wrote: >>>> >>>> Ron, >>>> Airflow Performance has injectors with inserts. Various inserts >>>> have different diameters and will adjust fuel flow. They have a >>>> procedure for checking and adjusting the fuel flows for balance. >>>> You should check them out. >>>> There is no adjustment in the spider. >>>> Jim Combs (N312F) >>>> On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 3:33 AM, Ron McGann >>>> <ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com <mailto:ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com>> wrote: >>>> G'day all, >>>> Since first flight, I have noticed that my #2 cylinder is >>>> consistently hotter than the rest in all modes of flight except >>>> cruise lean of peak. At peak, and lean of peak, #2 is >>>> consistently >>>> cooler than the rest. I concluded that the fuel flow rate to >>>> cylinder 2 was less the rest for some reason. At the suggestion >>>> of >>>> one of our listers, I popped the top cowl and ran the 'coke >>>> bottle >>>> test'. This confirmed that fuel delivery to cylinder 2 was >>>> indeed >>>> about 80% of that to the other cylinders. So, what to >>>> do? I removed the fuel line, cleaned it and could not >>>> find any obvious obstruction. Since the flow test confirmed the >>>> flow out of the line was less than the others, I can only >>>> conclude >>>> that there is a problem with the spider. Are there any >>>> adjustments >>>> that can be made? Sorry if this is a really lame question, but >>>> engines are still a black art to me. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Ron >>>> VH-XRM, flying in Oz * >>>> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >>>> tp://forums.matronics.com >>>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>>> * >>>> * >>>> * >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 06:49:22 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders
    From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
    Unrestricted flow without injectors is NOT meaningful. There would be way more flow than you would ever get through the injectors. You need to redo the test with injectors after ensuring the offending injector is truly clean. Then consult with AFS or GAMI as to revision needed. On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 6:33 PM, McGann, Ron <Ron.McGann@ausawd.com> wrote: > > Thx guys - keep the responses coming. I should point out that I did the fuel flow test with the fuel lines disconnected from the injectors, so this is raw flow from the spider down the fuel line only. I don't see how adding inserts/restrictors is going to help my case. > > Cheers, > Ron > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen > Sent: Monday, 8 February 2010 8:15 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders > > > Not all Bendix injectors are two piece, so you couldn't put inserts in the older one piece. And the inserts would not be legal in a certified engine. But if AFP system should be no issue. > > On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote: >> >> By this, BTW, I mean that the injectors are the same. They're just >> injectors. You can buy AFP inserts for your Precision/Bendix >> injectors. As far as I know, the AFP difference is in the servo and >> spider. >> >> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD >> do not archive >> >> >> Tim Olson wrote: >>> >>> >>> Precision/bendix is the same thing, so this isn't unique to AFP. >>> Tim >>> >>> >>> >>> On Feb 7, 2010, at 8:55 AM, Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> --> <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> >>>> >>>> I'm not positive, but I think they're only for experimental >>>> aircraft. The really neat thing about AF injectors is that they >>>> change an insert instead of the whole injector body ..... making it >>>> much easier to change the injector orifice on a hot engine. >>>> Linn >>>> >>>> Jim Combs wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Ron, >>>>> Airflow Performance has injectors with inserts. Various inserts >>>>> have different diameters and will adjust fuel flow. They have a >>>>> procedure for checking and adjusting the fuel flows for balance. >>>>> You should check them out. >>>>> There is no adjustment in the spider. >>>>> Jim Combs (N312F) >>>>> On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 3:33 AM, Ron McGann >>>>> <ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com <mailto:ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com>> wrote: >>>>> G'day all, >>>>> Since first flight, I have noticed that my #2 cylinder is >>>>> consistently hotter than the rest in all modes of flight except >>>>> cruise lean of peak. At peak, and lean of peak, #2 is >>>>> consistently >>>>> cooler than the rest. I concluded that the fuel flow rate to >>>>> cylinder 2 was less the rest for some reason. At the suggestion >>>>> of >>>>> one of our listers, I popped the top cowl and ran the 'coke >>>>> bottle >>>>> test'. This confirmed that fuel delivery to cylinder 2 was >>>>> indeed >>>>> about 80% of that to the other cylinders. So, what to >>>>> do? I removed the fuel line, cleaned it and could not >>>>> find any obvious obstruction. Since the flow test confirmed the >>>>> flow out of the line was less than the others, I can only >>>>> conclude >>>>> that there is a problem with the spider. Are there any >>>>> adjustments >>>>> that can be made? Sorry if this is a really lame question, but >>>>> engines are still a black art to me. >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Ron >>>>> VH-XRM, flying in Oz * >>>>> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >>>>> tp://forums.matronics.com >>>>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>>>> * >>>>> * >>>>> * >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 07:05:36 PM PST US
    From: Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: wiring
    What route did you take to get wiring back to the tail/rudder? Linn


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    Time: 07:21:52 PM PST US
    From: Bill Mauledriver Watson <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: wiring
    Along one of the J-channels on the right side. Just lay the wire in there and fasten with tie wraps through holes in the J-channel. I believe that was how it was suggested in the Vans wiring plan. Great game Bill Linn Walters wrote: > > What route did you take to get wiring back to the tail/rudder? > Linn > >


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    Time: 07:31:06 PM PST US
    From: Larry Rosen <N205EN@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: wiring
    Pilot (left) side, 2nd J channel down from the longeron. laid the wire in the channel and drilled #40 holes to tie the wire down with wax lace. Larry Rosen Linn Walters wrote: > > What route did you take to get wiring back to the tail/rudder? > Linn > >


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    Time: 08:07:05 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Adjusting fuel flow to cylinders
    Sorry, I should have said the normal newer Precision stuff. For many people it'll be a new rebuild with something like an AFP or silverhawk system. Of course some people will have older engines with the older Bendix systems too....so that wouldn't apply I guess. And you're right...swapping inserts isn't A.O.K. on certifieds...only us experimentals. Chalk that up as just one more think that sets the category apart. Man, I don't know if I could ever go back to certified with the amazing number of benefits to experimental. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive Kelly McMullen wrote: > > Not all Bendix injectors are two piece, so you couldn't put inserts in > the older one piece. And the inserts would not be legal in a certified > engine. But if AFP system should be no issue. > > On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote: >> >> By this, BTW, I mean that the injectors are the same. They're >> just injectors. You can buy AFP inserts for your Precision/Bendix >> injectors. As far as I know, the AFP difference is in the >> servo and spider. >> >> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD >> do not archive >> >> >> Tim Olson wrote: >>> >>> Precision/bendix is the same thing, so this isn't unique to AFP. >>> Tim >>> >>> >>> >>> On Feb 7, 2010, at 8:55 AM, Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I'm not positive, but I think they're only for experimental aircraft. The >>>> really neat thing about AF injectors is that they change an insert instead >>>> of the whole injector body ..... making it much easier to change the >>>> injector orifice on a hot engine. >>>> Linn >>>> >>>> Jim Combs wrote: >>>>> Ron, >>>>> Airflow Performance has injectors with inserts. Various inserts have >>>>> different diameters and will adjust fuel flow. They have a procedure for >>>>> checking and adjusting the fuel flows for balance. You should check them >>>>> out. >>>>> There is no adjustment in the spider. >>>>> Jim Combs (N312F) >>>>> On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 3:33 AM, Ron McGann <ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com >>>>> <mailto:ronrvbuilder@bigpond.com>> wrote: >>>>> Gday all, >>>>> Since first flight, I have noticed that my #2 cylinder is >>>>> consistently hotter than the rest in all modes of flight except >>>>> cruise lean of peak. At peak, and lean of peak, #2 is consistently >>>>> cooler than the rest. I concluded that the fuel flow rate to >>>>> cylinder 2 was less the rest for some reason. At the suggestion of >>>>> one of our listers, I popped the top cowl and ran the coke bottle >>>>> test. This confirmed that fuel delivery to cylinder 2 was indeed >>>>> about 80% of that to the other cylinders. So, what to do? I >>>>> removed the fuel line, cleaned it and could not >>>>> find any obvious obstruction. Since the flow test confirmed the >>>>> flow out of the line was less than the others, I can only conclude >>>>> that there is a problem with the spider. Are there any adjustments >>>>> that can be made? Sorry if this is a really lame question, but >>>>> engines are still a black art to me. >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Ron >>>>> VH-XRM, flying in Oz * >>>>> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >>>>> tp://forums.matronics.com >>>>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>>>> * >>>>> * >>>>> * >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >


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    Time: 08:52:24 PM PST US
    From: "DLM" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: OSH camping
    is anyone taking reservations for camping this year? we haven't decided on hotel or tent. Expect to arrive Sunday and leave Wednesday. Probably can tent camp with the spam cans. Probably be better to camp in Scholer in RV10 village.


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    Time: 08:57:47 PM PST US
    From: "Dave Leikam" <daveleikam@wi.rr.com>
    Subject: Windshield fairing
    I am about to make my windshield fairing. Are there any tips or pointers anyone would like to share before I begin? I am using black dye in the epoxy. Dave Leikam RV-10 #40496 N89DA Muskego, WI do not archive




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