RV10-List Digest Archive

Sat 02/13/10


Total Messages Posted: 7



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 09:00 AM - Re: RV 10 - Emp + QB Fuse for sale (Bruceklas)
     2. 11:21 AM - RV-10 QB Fuse & Wings For Sale - Ohio (ehm6006)
     3. 12:42 PM - Re: RV-10 QB Fuse & Wings For Sale - Ohio (Lew Gallagher)
     4. 01:12 PM - problems with new factory (Russell Shavitz)
     5. 04:19 PM - Re: problems with new factory (Kelly McMullen)
     6. 05:41 PM - Air Access on Wheel Farings (Les Kearney)
     7. 06:23 PM - Re: Air Access on Wheel Farings (Miller John)
 
 
 


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    Time: 09:00:25 AM PST US
    From: "Bruceklas" <bruceklas@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: RV 10 - Emp + QB Fuse for sale


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    Time: 11:21:50 AM PST US
    Subject: RV-10 QB Fuse & Wings For Sale - Ohio
    From: "ehm6006" <ed@muellerartcover.com>
    Finances force sale of RV10 Quickbuild wings and fuselage. $31,000.00. Delivery immediate. Like NEW from factory. Inventory done, NO work has been done on these. These were built in the original factory, not the new one that has seen some problems. Were originally shipped by Partain Trucking. Located in Grafton, Ohio (~25 miles southwest of Cleveland). Save at least $5,000.00. Vans Price: $36,135.00 + Crating($1,000.00) + Freight. Delivery 3-4 months. Ed Mueller Grafton, OH 440-458-6006 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=286298#286298


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    Time: 12:42:57 PM PST US
    From: "Lew Gallagher" <lewgall@charter.net>
    Subject: Re: RV-10 QB Fuse & Wings For Sale - Ohio
    Hey Ed, Lew Gallagher here. First, I'm sorry to see so many RV-10 projects going on the block lately. For three years now, I've been helping my friend build his RV-10 and we're almost at engine start and inspection stage. I've enjoyed this project so much that I've been collecting parts for a future build of my own. I now have the tail/empenage kit, cowling/spinner, rudder pedals, Whelan lights, etc. So I'm always looking for additional parts at bargain prices. Am I correct in assuming when you say you have the wings and fuselage, that the tail/empenage is not included? I just missed a quick build wing kit here in SC for around $10K a while back. I doubt if you would sell your kits for what I could pay -- and you are 600 miles away. However, I would like you to keep me in mind if you don't get serious offers. Have truck and cash ... will travel! Also, if you get any inquiries from someone who has already purchased the slow build kits, but wanted yours instead -- then I would be interested in picking up their slow build wing and fuse kits. Later, - Lew ----- Original Message ----- From: "ehm6006" <ed@muellerartcover.com> Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 2:21 PM Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 QB Fuse & Wings For Sale - Ohio > > Finances force sale of RV10 Quickbuild wings and fuselage. > > $31,000.00. Delivery immediate. > > Like NEW from factory. Inventory done, NO work has been done on these. > These were built in the original factory, not the new one that has seen > some problems. Were originally shipped by Partain Trucking. > > Located in Grafton, Ohio (~25 miles southwest of Cleveland). > > Save at least $5,000.00. > > Vans Price: $36,135.00 + Crating($1,000.00) + Freight. Delivery 3-4 > months. > > > Ed Mueller > Grafton, OH > 440-458-6006 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=286298#286298 > > >


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    Time: 01:12:46 PM PST US
    From: Russell Shavitz <rashvac@earthlink.net>
    Subject: problems with new factory
    What problems have been notice with the new factory and the Rv 10 quick build I got one of the first ones from the new factory but do not know what to look for it has alot of scratches on the wings but I hoped that paint would hide them. Have not started working on the fuse yet what should I look for. Russell Shavitz Shavitz Heating & Air Conditioning 4849 Main Street, Skokie, IL 60077 office: 847-678-1000 cell: 847-417-6622 www.shavitz.com


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    Time: 04:19:51 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: problems with new factory
    From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
    Defects from new QBs....Ailerons and flaps trailing edge not double flush riveted with a flush rivet set, rather driven all the way with back rivet set, so rivets are over driven leaving a dimpled appearance. Just exchanged for new set which are better, but still done wrong. Fuselage...mid fuse longerons F1046L&R only skins were dimpled, longerons were not countersunk, so attachment was by rivet shank only. Longerons not cut to length, both top and mid-section. Much tougher to make clean cuts with die grinder or Dremel than it would have been on band saw. Baggage floor support rails and side skines not dimpled, nor installed with more than a couple throwaway pop rivets. So spent today dimpling skins with pop rivet dimple dies because once skins were riveted on, nothing else would reach. A real PITA. Upper longerons not drilled for tail cone, nor the template for them supplied. All snap bushings for wire runs missing, as well as some other hardware. The control column mounts were not trimmed per plans, so have to remove them and cut out per plans. My fuel vent line in one tank was bent wrong, leaving no room for sending unit float. Took some creative effort to figure how to move it without kinking the soft aluminum, given the only access is through the sending unit hole. I guess that hits the highlights. I'm probably forgetting other stuff. Phil Perry had a pretty good list on his. On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Russell Shavitz <rashvac@earthlink.net> wrote: > > What problems have been notice with the new factory and the Rv 10 quick build I got one of the first ones from the new factory but do not know what to look for it has alot of scratches on the wings but I hoped that paint would hide them. Have not started working on the fuse yet what should I look for. > > Russell Shavitz > Shavitz Heating & Air Conditioning > 4849 Main Street, Skokie, IL 60077 > office: 847-678-1000 > cell: 847-417-6622 > www.shavitz.com > >


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    Time: 05:41:57 PM PST US
    From: "Les Kearney" <kearney@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Air Access on Wheel Farings
    Hi After reading all the advice about doing the farings etc before wings go on, I thought I would take a crack at my wheel farings. Seeing how inaccessible the inner tube valve stems are, I was wondering what the "best practise" is to deal with this issue. Pix would be a bonus! Inquiring minds need to know Les #40643 - still in a fibreglass cloud


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    Time: 06:23:58 PM PST US
    From: Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com>
    Subject: Re: Air Access on Wheel Farings
    Les, First, get some new tubes from Desser that have the 90 degree bend on them (they do not make leak guard tubes with 90 degree bend). The straight stems end is too close to the axle nut, making getting a chuck on them a royal pain. Plus side is these tubes are about $13 each vice the $50 for leak guard. Next, cut yourself a small access door that is hinged at the front. Put the door at the 9 o'clock position on the wheel looking at it from the side. Then use some tire chalk marker to mark the wheel at the 6 o'clock position when the stem is at the 9 o'clock. That way, you can move the bird till you see the mark showing out the bottom of the wheel pant, then open the door and the stem is facing you ready for air up! I fill my tubes with nitrogen to slow the inevitable slow leaks. I just installed the remote pressure sensors (available thru Spruce) so I can monitor pressure without having to put a gauge on it. Takes a bit more lead weight to balance them, but it's worth it. grumpy N184JM On Feb 13, 2010, at 7:40 PM, Les Kearney wrote: > Hi > > After reading all the advice about doing the farings etc before > wings go on, I thought I would take a crack at my wheel farings. > Seeing how inaccessible the inner tube valve stems are, I was > wondering what the "best practise" is to deal with this issue. > > Pix would be a bonus! > > Inquiring minds need to know > > Les > #40643 - still in a fibreglass cloud > >




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