---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 03/03/10: 17 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:04 AM - Re: Re: Doing the windscreen - any last minutes tips? (Bill Mauledriver Watson) 2. 08:36 AM - Re: Doing the windscreen - any last minutes tips? (Jim Berry) 3. 09:55 AM - OT - EAAs Sport Aviation magazine facelift (Bill Mauledriver Watson) 4. 12:22 PM - rudder question (JHearnsberger) 5. 01:14 PM - Tachometer Pulses Per Minute (Michael Kraus) 6. 01:14 PM - Re: OT - EAAs Sport Aviation magazine facelift (Perry, Phil) 7. 01:14 PM - Re: OT - EAAs Sport Aviation magazine facelift (Jack Phillips) 8. 01:51 PM - Re: rudder question (AirMike) 9. 02:06 PM - Balancing control surfaces - after painting (AirMike) 10. 03:04 PM - Re: rudder question (Perry, Phil) 11. 03:07 PM - Re: OT - EAAs Sport Aviation magazine facelift (Deems Davis) 12. 04:03 PM - Re: RV10 Transition Training (Aaron Gleixner) 13. 04:40 PM - Re: rudder question (Deems Davis) 14. 04:50 PM - Re: rudder question (Fred Williams, M.D.) 15. 04:58 PM - Re: OT - EAAs Sport Aviation magazine facelift (Bill Mauledriver Watson) 16. 06:24 PM - Re: OT - EAAs Sport Aviation magazine facelift (Dj Merrill) 17. 08:00 PM - Re: Tachometer Pulses Per Minute (Bob Turner) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:04:58 AM PST US From: Bill Mauledriver Watson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Doing the windscreen - any last minutes tips? Jim, just wanted to say Thanks for the detail on the jacking. I never would have tried the C-clamp thing on my own but it works great. Engine hoist on the engine mount (engine on), an oak 1.5x1.5 c-clamped to each spar, a camera tripod doing nothing back at the tail. The first pant is going on fine - might try the 2 ply supports but not having any problems there yet. I just got a laser line thingy - very cool. $30 at Sears for a 1 line device with detachable magnetic mount. Couldn't imagine exactly how to use it despite all the mentions of it's use on this list. Fool around with it for 10 minutes and it starts to seem indispensible. The centerline of the aircraft thing is a piece of cake. Bill "starting to enjoy an otherwise uncomfortable set of tasks" Watson 40605 Durham NC Jim Berry wrote: > > Bill, > > The bottle jack and short 2x4 go under the spar stubs, and are used to tweak the fuselage level side-to-side. The longer 2x4s are clamped to the aft sides of the spar stubs to help maintain the level position. It needs to be long enough to reach from the top of the spar to the floor. I used 2 C clamps per side. I jacked the spars just enough to get the main tires about 1/4" off the ground, then raised the low side a little more to bring the fuselage level. The C clamped 2x4s did a good job of maintaining that position, and showed no tendency to walk. Once you have it leveled side-to-side it is easy to tweak the engine hoist and/or tail support to get level fore and aft. > > The other thing that really helped in getting the wheel pants in position was to make 2 L-shaped jigs to hold the wheel pant level fore and aft. Basically just 2 plywood supports with one leg on the floor and the other leg perpendicular to the floor. After you establish the fore and aft level line on each wheel pant(use a laser level) you can measure the height from that line to the ground. Drill a #40 hole in the nose and tail of each pant on the level line. Drill a hole in each jig the same distance from the floor, and pin each jig to the pant with a finishing nail. You now have a way to hold the pant level and at the correct height. By moving the jigs around you have a stable way to position the pant relative to the tire and mounting bracket. Have fun. > > Jim Berry > 40482 > N15JB > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:36:42 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Doing the windscreen - any last minutes tips? From: "Jim Berry" Bill, I am glad to hear it is working for you. Your first laser level is just the foot in the door. I started with a single line level, then a dual line, and now a 5 line level. They are kind of like hammers; more is better. Jim Berry 40482 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289068#289068 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:55:20 AM PST US From: Bill Mauledriver Watson Subject: RV10-List: OT - EAAs Sport Aviation magazine facelift I've been underimpressed with EAA's mags and Web site. Well, the new format and direction of their Sport Aviation mag has changed my opinion on the magazine. Even though magazines seem to be on their way out along with some other print media, EAA made some substantial changes and I'm actually looking forward to getting it each month. Great how-to articles - many basic, some less so, but all welcome. Nice Job! So now its Kitplanes because I'm building, Flying because of the writers, Sport Aviation because it's much better now. Now I'm going back to the EAA website and re-check it out. I've liked the how-to videos I've seen so far - maybe more improvements await. Bill Watson do not archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:22:13 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: rudder question From: "JHearnsberger" I will find out when I start clecoing the skin on. But, is the second rib/stiffener supposed to be longer than the bottom rib? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289085#289085 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0260_138.jpg ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:14:12 PM PST US From: Michael Kraus Subject: RV10-List: Tachometer Pulses Per Minute Are all IO-540 engines set for 3 ppm if you are pulling the tach signal from the p-lead? And are all IO-360 engines at 2 ppm? Thanks -Mike Sent from my iPhone ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:14:12 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: OT - EAAs Sport Aviation magazine facelift From: "Perry, Phil" We're on the same page. I really like the new magazine and the video tips on the website. Great stuff. I still like Kitplanes, but I'm not looking forward to it as much anymore. The latest Sport Aviations have me more excited about them. I'm just wondering how long they can keep up the content before running out. Right now, the content is pretty dense and I love it. It'll be interesting to see how KP responds... Especially after their negative "I told you so" editorial that was directed at the EAA a few months back. Phil -----Original Message----- From: Bill Mauledriver Watson [mailto:MauleDriver@nc.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 10:30 AM Subject: RV10-List: OT - EAAs Sport Aviation magazine facelift I've been underimpressed with EAA's mags and Web site. Well, the new format and direction of their Sport Aviation mag has changed my opinion on the magazine. Even though magazines seem to be on their way out along with some other print media, EAA made some substantial changes and I'm actually looking forward to getting it each month. Great how-to articles - many basic, some less so, but all welcome. Nice Job! So now its Kitplanes because I'm building, Flying because of the writers, Sport Aviation because it's much better now. Now I'm going back to the EAA website and re-check it out. I've liked the how-to videos I've seen so far - maybe more improvements await. Bill Watson do not archive ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:14:57 PM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: RV10-List: OT - EAAs Sport Aviation magazine facelift Yeah, Sport Aviation has gotten back to just about as good as it was when Jack Cox was the editor. He retired some years ago and moved to Asheboro NC where he now publishes an excellent mag called "Sportsman Pilot" A very nice magazine, for only $12 a year (4 quarterly issues). http://www.sportsmanpilot.com/CI/CurrentIssue.htm The latest issue has a nice article about my Pietenpol in it. Jack Phillips #40610 Pro-Sealing the fuel tanks (Wings) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Mauledriver Watson Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 11:30 AM Subject: RV10-List: OT - EAAs Sport Aviation magazine facelift I've been underimpressed with EAA's mags and Web site. Well, the new format and direction of their Sport Aviation mag has changed my opinion on the magazine. Even though magazines seem to be on their way out along with some other print media, EAA made some substantial changes and I'm actually looking forward to getting it each month. Great how-to articles - many basic, some less so, but all welcome. Nice Job! So now its Kitplanes because I'm building, Flying because of the writers, Sport Aviation because it's much better now. Now I'm going back to the EAA website and re-check it out. I've liked the how-to videos I've seen so far - maybe more improvements await. Bill Watson do not archive ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:51:54 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: rudder question From: "AirMike" I am going to guess that it is longer. As I recall that back seam has an aluminum fillet that is pro-sealed in between the skins. The lower frame accepts the fiberglass lower tail piece. I would suggest at this point that you place #6 nutplates on the tailpiece attach holes. You WILL have to remove this piece for maintainence - the screws are much easier to remove than a spinning pop rivet. -------- OSH '10 or Bust Q/B - testing phase 1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289097#289097 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:06:06 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Balancing control surfaces - after painting From: "AirMike" My unpainted control surfaces seem quite well balanced, but as I look at the paint thing, I would appreciate any comments about what needed to be done after painting to re balance. I know if the controls are not balanced after painting that it can change the Vne dramatically and can put you at risk for flutter. -------- OSH '10 or Bust Q/B - testing phase 1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289098#289098 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:04:39 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: rudder question From: "Perry, Phil" IIRC, it is..... If you look at the skin, you'll see how the rivet lines merge toward the aft-edge. The second rib from the bottom is angled down so they meet at the lower-aft edge of the rudder. Phil -----Original Message----- From: JHearnsberger [mailto:jakehearnsberger@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 2:19 PM Subject: RV10-List: rudder question I will find out when I start clecoing the skin on. But, is the second rib/stiffener supposed to be longer than the bottom rib? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289085#289085 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0260_138.jpg ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:07:28 PM PST US From: Deems Davis Subject: Re: RV10-List: OT - EAAs Sport Aviation magazine facelift Bill, I agree, I really enjoy the articles about Reliability Centered Maintenance. I've actually started to read the articles again. Deems Davis N519PJ www.deemsrv10.com On 3/3/2010 9:29 AM, Bill Mauledriver Watson wrote: > > > I've been underimpressed with EAA's mags and Web site. Well, the new > format and direction of their Sport Aviation mag has changed my > opinion on the magazine. > > Even though magazines seem to be on their way out along with some > other print media, EAA made some substantial changes and I'm actually > looking forward to getting it each month. Great how-to articles - > many basic, some less so, but all welcome. Nice Job! > So now its Kitplanes because I'm building, Flying because of the > writers, Sport Aviation because it's much better now. > > Now I'm going back to the EAA website and re-check it out. I've liked > the how-to videos I've seen so far - maybe more improvements await. > > Bill Watson > > do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:03:47 PM PST US From: Aaron Gleixner Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV10 Transition Training Joe,=0A=0AI am starting my search for transition training in the RV-10.- Shooting for a mid to late May first flight.- I was looking at the RVator , and noticed you will have the plane at Sun and Fun.- I am staying in Wi nter Haven nearby for Sat and Sun of Sun and Fun-and for the week followi ng on vacation with plenty of free time.- Any chance you are staying in t he FL area the week after sun and fun and available for transition training ?=0A=0AAaron- =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: zac krv8 =0ATo: rv10-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Mon, Febru ary 8, 2010 11:57:44 AM=0ASubject: RV10-List: RV10 Transition Training=0A llow RV10 builders.....=0A=0A- - - If you are in need of RV10 Transit ion Training on the East Coast, I can help you out.- I use Van's Aircraft N220RV that is based at St Mary's airport (2W6) in Maryland.- For more i nformation, check out my website at- http://www.zackair.com/.=0A=0AThanks =0AJoe Czachorowski=0A=0A--------=0ARV8 #80125 =0ARV10 # 40512=0A=0A=0A=0A =0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic. == ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 04:40:47 PM PST US From: Deems Davis Subject: Re: RV10-List: rudder question Does this picture help? http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%207%20Rudder/slides/DSC00762.html Deems Davis N519PJ www.deemsrv10.com On 3/3/2010 1:19 PM, JHearnsberger wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "JHearnsberger" > > I will find out when I start clecoing the skin on. But, is the second rib/stiffener supposed to be longer than the bottom rib? > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289085#289085 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0260_138.jpg > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 04:50:37 PM PST US From: "Fred Williams, M.D." Subject: Re: RV10-List: rudder question Jake; That looks right from the picture. I don't remember specifically, but I think some of the fiberglass may fill in that little space. compare it to the plan pics again. Dr Fred 515Fw. JHearnsberger wrote: > > I will find out when I start clecoing the skin on. But, is the second rib/stiffener supposed to be longer than the bottom rib? > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289085#289085 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0260_138.jpg > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 04:58:23 PM PST US From: Bill Mauledriver Watson Subject: Re: RV10-List: OT - EAAs Sport Aviation magazine facelift Density is good. I still look forward to Kitplanes with one big reservation - the 'survey' issues where they do the lists - lists of plans built aircraft, lists of kits, lists of engines. A waste of paper... just filler. Maintaining those kinds of lists is a service to the community I guess but just put it on a web page. I want to see Stein's series or the machine shop stuff. How-to stuff is the draw for me even if it's stuff I don't plan to ever do. Bill do not archive Perry, Phil wrote: > > We're on the same page. I really like the new magazine and the video > tips on the website. Great stuff. > > I still like Kitplanes, but I'm not looking forward to it as much > anymore. The latest Sport Aviations have me more excited about them. > > I'm just wondering how long they can keep up the content before running > out. Right now, the content is pretty dense and I love it. > > It'll be interesting to see how KP responds... Especially after their > negative "I told you so" editorial that was directed at the EAA a few > months back. > > Phil > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Mauledriver Watson [mailto:MauleDriver@nc.rr.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 10:30 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: OT - EAAs Sport Aviation magazine facelift > > > > I've been underimpressed with EAA's mags and Web site. Well, the new > format and direction of their Sport Aviation mag has changed my opinion > on the magazine. > > Even though magazines seem to be on their way out along with some other > print media, EAA made some substantial changes and I'm actually looking > forward to getting it each month. Great how-to articles - many basic, > some less so, but all welcome. Nice Job! > > So now its Kitplanes because I'm building, Flying because of the > writers, Sport Aviation because it's much better now. > > Now I'm going back to the EAA website and re-check it out. I've liked > the how-to videos I've seen so far - maybe more improvements await. > > Bill Watson > > do not archive > > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 06:24:27 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: OT - EAAs Sport Aviation magazine facelift From: Dj Merrill On 3/3/2010 4:53 PM, Bill Mauledriver Watson wrote: > I still look forward to Kitplanes with one big > reservation - the 'survey' issues where they do the lists - lists of > plans built aircraft, lists of kits, lists of engines. A waste of > paper... just filler. On the other side of that coin, those are some of my favorite issues. I like to go through and look at all the various designs, specs, etc, and drool a bit... :-) -Dj -- Dj Merrill - N1JOV Glastar Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 N421DJ - http://deej.net/sportsman/ Grumman Yankee Driver N9870L - http://deej.net/yankee/ ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 08:00:07 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Tachometer Pulses Per Minute From: "Bob Turner" For 4 cycle engines: 6 cylinder engines will have 3 mag firings per revolution. 4 cylinder engines will have 2 mag firings per revolution. 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