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1. 01:53 AM - Re: Re: New Door Latch Video S.B. replacement (Alan Mekler)
2. 08:06 AM - Re: Stein eyeball vents and Van's NACA vents. (Pascal)
3. 09:24 AM - slick mag install and timming (Thane States)
4. 10:06 AM - Re: slick mag install and timming (Pascal)
5. 10:43 AM - Re: slick mag install and timming (Rick)
6. 11:13 AM - Re: slick mag install and timming (John Cumins)
7. 02:06 PM - Re: slick mag install and timming (Kelly McMullen)
8. 03:02 PM - Re: slick mag install and timming (Thane States)
9. 03:05 PM - Re: slick mag install and timming (Thane States)
10. 07:13 PM - Re: slick mag install and timming (AirMike)
11. 10:18 PM - Re: slick mag install and timming (Rick)
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| Subject: | Re: New Door Latch Video S.B. replacement |
Scott,
I'm looking forward to seeing your pictures. Can you also post the
instructions?
Alan
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 12:39 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: New Door Latch Video S.B. replacement
I did decide to install Sean's 90 degree system in my plane. I was a little
worried at first about making a cut into the door but it was a piece of cake
to install.
The instruction were great and it was very easy to make the small cut in the
bottom of the door and one slit with a cut-off wheel and then just clean it
up with a file.
I installed the kit in under 3 hours. I have not been able to test the
system because I am installing new aluminum door blocks for the receiver
pins and I ran out of time on Sunday to finish.
The kits exceeded my expectations in quality and everything was very well
thought out.
It was great that I did not have to remove any of my blocks in the door or
the handle since my screws were already painted over on the outside of the
door.
I took a bunch of pictures and will post some in a few days once I finish up
and do my final adjustments.
With the 90 degree system I should be able to have full or very close to
full engagement of the cam (meaning it will pull the door completely closed)
before the pins extend into the door block.
Before installing the kit I called Ed Hayden and he could not say enough
about how great it works. He made the comment that the first time he closed
the door he thought he forgot to
put the ends of the rods back on because it closed so smooth but they were
on. I guess it had never closed that easily. After I heard his endorsement
I went for it.
If you already have a painted RV-10 the 90 degree kit will be great. If you
don't have your doors painted you may want to consider the 180 degree kit.
Anyway, I'll finish up later this week and post some pictures and possibly a
video link for the 90 degree system.
Scott Schmidt
scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
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From: Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com>
Sent: Tue, March 9, 2010 10:30:12 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: New Door Latch Video S.B. replacement
I also talked to Ed Hayden and he installed them. Said it
only took about 2 hours for the 2nd one he did, and he
didn't have to remove screws either. So this is great news.
Sounds like you have the perfect kit solution.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
Seano wrote:
>
> I wanted to let you know Scott Schmidt installed my 90 degree retro kit
and was able to put it together without taking any screws out on his doors.
If your screws are painted over you don't necessarily have to take them out.
You can feed the pushrods through the new slot in the bottom and feed the
midrack through the box. Let me know if you
> have any questions.
> Sean
> 801-580-3737
> www.planearound.com
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@verizon.net>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 1:09 PM
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: New Door Latch Video S.B. replacement
>
>
>>
>> Piling on to the interested in getting one list, phenomenal design!!!
>> Probably more inclined to go with the 90 degree kit for your planning.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Marcus
>>
>> Do not archive
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Strasnuts
>> Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 12:37 AM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RV10-List: Re: New Door Latch Video S.B. replacement
>>
>>
>> For all of you that are close to installing the doors and want my system,
>> don't cut your rack gears from Vans where they tell you. Cut them in
half,
>> right down the middle or wait for the instructions with my kit. This way
I
>> (or you)can make 180 degrees of travel on your handle. Retrofit kits
will
>> have the option of buying 90 degree kits for already cut racks or 180
degree
>> kits that include new racks for the handles. The 180 degree kits will
cost
>> a little extra for the material. For those of you who want retrofit kits
>> you will have to decide on whether you want the door to be pulled in
before
>> pin penetration and 1-1/4 of pin travel past the door or 90 degree kits
that
>> hold the door closed and tight in the middle preventing bulging and the
same
>> pin extension.
>>
>> --------
>> Cust. #40936
>> RV-10 SB
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| Subject: | Re: Stein eyeball vents and Van's NACA vents. |
go back to 4/17/2008 Thanes States had a solution:
Go to lowes or H.D and B-line it for the plumbing department,
then look for the rubber fittings to attach PVC, in line, 1 1/2". Get a
coupling for 1 1/2" pipe, it will be about 4" long and have two hose
clamps
on each end. You will need to cut the two ends off with a band saw, or
your
weapon of choice. Cut just inside of the groove where the clamp sets.
You
will now have two couplings for each vent.
Then you can use a dremal to cut the big flange off the NACA inlets,
about
1/4 inch from the seam, or so you have 1 1/2" diameter left. Then with
the
nut ring still on the eyeball vent insert it into the rubber coupling
and
place the whole unit over the NACA vent, and tighten the hose clamp.
Sound complicated but take around 30 minutes.
From: John Gonzalez
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 9:26 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Stein eyeball vents and Van's NACA vents.
I spent a small amount of time last weekend figuring out how I am going
to mount those nice Stein eyeball vents with my standard Van's panel. In
addition, Stein removed the small flange on the side of the panel which
ties into the fuselage side with two rivets.
I have been having a hell of a time cutting clean, large holes in
aluminum, I don't have a fly cutter or whole saws and the pnuemetic
nibbler is not much fun. I made a thin aluminum prototype to get the
height and the angle correct to work with the NACA vent on the side of
the fuse. I am contemplating having many of these made up by giving to a
water jet cutter.
I realize that most builders are using aftermarket panels and have made
other arrrangement for these eyeball vents, but is anyone interested in
helping defray the cost of this process. If I do this I will cut one
pair, mount them and verify that it works and then cut others pairs if
people are interested in paying for them(no profit). I imagine most of
the cost will be in scanning the image and verifying the dimensions
while digitizing the information for the cutter. Once the info is in the
computer it will be easy to run a lot of them.
I will also be tying this mount into the side of the fuse where those
two #40 rivet holes are where Stein removed the panel flange.
Here are some photos.
BTW if anyone has a simpler method of mounting these with my setup,
please let me know.
John
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| Subject: | slick mag install and timming |
I have recently sent in my slick mags for the SB update.
Could anyone offer tips and ideas for the install and timming setup once
I get them back.
Any info would be helpfull.
Thanks,
Thane States
321BY
96 hrs.
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| Subject: | Re: slick mag install and timming |
I assume you have the 2004-2008 mags right? you are doing service
bulletins SB2-08A and SB3-08A, dated July 1, 2008 and September 11,
2008.
I don't know of one more recent than that.. which is why I am asking.
From: Thane States
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 9:21 AM
Subject: RV10-List: slick mag install and timming
I have recently sent in my slick mags for the SB update.
Could anyone offer tips and ideas for the install and timming setup once
I get them back.
Any info would be helpfull.
Thanks,
Thane States
321BY
96 hrs.
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| Subject: | slick mag install and timming |
Thane,
I may have the procedure but will have to look, I retimed mine a few months
ago. Requires a timing box that hooks to the P leads to get both mags as
close to each other as possible. Any idea on the cost of doing the mod to
the mags? I'm coming up on that time as well.
Rick Sked
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Thane States
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 9:21 AM
Subject: RV10-List: slick mag install and timming
I have recently sent in my slick mags for the SB update.
Could anyone offer tips and ideas for the install and timming setup once I
get them back.
Any info would be helpfull.
Thanks,
Thane States
321BY
96 hrs.
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| Subject: | slick mag install and timming |
Rick
I will be down in your neck of the woods, if you pull the mags I will be
glad to help you reinstall them and get them timed correctly. Being a old
a&p it is a very simple process.
Just let me know shoot me a e-mail off list and we can go from there.
I will be flying into Henderson and can bring my buzz box and slick mag
install timing pin with me.
John G. Cumins
President
JC'S Interactive Systems
2499 B1 Martin Rd
Fairfield Ca 94533
707-425-7100
707-425-7576 Fax
Your Total Technology Solution Provider
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 10:41 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: slick mag install and timming
Thane,
I may have the procedure but will have to look, I retimed mine a few months
ago. Requires a timing box that hooks to the P leads to get both mags as
close to each other as possible. Any idea on the cost of doing the mod to
the mags? I'm coming up on that time as well.
Rick Sked
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Thane States
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 9:21 AM
Subject: RV10-List: slick mag install and timming
I have recently sent in my slick mags for the SB update.
Could anyone offer tips and ideas for the install and timming setup once I
get them back.
Any info would be helpfull.
Thanks,
Thane States
321BY
96 hrs.
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| Subject: | Re: slick mag install and timming |
Best to get an A&P to talk you through the first time. Not hard, but
if you don't have the mag timing box and know a couple key steps, you
won't get it right. Be sure the A&P is familiar with Slick mags, as
the install is different from Bendix mags.
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Thane States <thane2@comporium.net> wrote:
> I have recently sent in my slick mags for the SB update.
> Could anyone offer tips and ideas for the install and timming setup once I
> get them back.
> Any info would be helpfull.
> Thanks,
> Thane States
> 321BY
> 96 hrs.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: slick mag install and timming |
That is correct.
----- Original Message -----
From: Pascal
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: slick mag install and timming
I assume you have the 2004-2008 mags right? you are doing service
bulletins SB2-08A and SB3-08A, dated July 1, 2008 and September 11,
2008.
I don't know of one more recent than that.. which is why I am asking.
From: Thane States
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 9:21 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: slick mag install and timming
I have recently sent in my slick mags for the SB update.
Could anyone offer tips and ideas for the install and timming setup
once I get them back.
Any info would be helpfull.
Thanks,
Thane States
321BY
96 hrs.
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| Subject: | Re: slick mag install and timming |
Yea, if they are under 100 hrs., then it is $75.00, each. However, if
they find any other issues, then the price goes up.
Mine were working fine but the key is to do them before the 100 hrs.
Also they said they would turn them in 2 days.
Thane
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 1:40 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: slick mag install and timming
Thane,
I may have the procedure but will have to look, I retimed mine a few
months ago. Requires a timing box that hooks to the P leads to get both
mags as close to each other as possible. Any idea on the cost of doing
the mod to the mags? I'm coming up on that time as well.
Rick Sked
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Thane States
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 9:21 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: slick mag install and timming
I have recently sent in my slick mags for the SB update.
Could anyone offer tips and ideas for the install and timming setup
once I get them back.
Any info would be helpfull.
Thanks,
Thane States
321BY
96 hrs.
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-Listhttp://forums.matronics.comht
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| Subject: | Re: slick mag install and timming |
I second what Kelly McMullen said. Spend what you need for the 1/2-3/4 hrs. that
your local A&P will spend doing it right. Watch him carefully or better yet
video it for the next time. I had mine done yesterday to double check them. Apparently,
after 50-100 hrs the timing can change a bit. Mine were dead on (no
change).
--------
OSH '10 or Bust
Q/B - testing phase 1
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289985#289985
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| Subject: | slick mag install and timming |
Had an expert (Norm my hangar bud) help, all in all it's very simple and a
bit prehistoric, like using the joint line of the case to establish the
timing, it was fun and I can tell ya, my mags after 50 hours were only off a
few degrees from each other, once they were right in sync it made a HUGE
difference on how well the engine started.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: slick mag install and timming
Best to get an A&P to talk you through the first time. Not hard, but
if you don't have the mag timing box and know a couple key steps, you
won't get it right. Be sure the A&P is familiar with Slick mags, as
the install is different from Bendix mags.
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Thane States <thane2@comporium.net> wrote:
> I have recently sent in my slick mags for the SB update.
> Could anyone offer tips and ideas for the install and timming setup once I
> get them back.
> Any info would be helpfull.
> Thanks,
> Thane States
> 321BY
> 96 hrs.
>
>
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