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1. 04:51 AM - Re: AHRS and Magnetometer location on the 10 (gary)
2. 07:13 AM - Re: AHRS and Magnetometer location on the 10 (Strasnuts)
3. 08:22 AM - Re: Re: AHRS and Magnetometer location on the 10 (gary)
4. 09:42 AM - Re: AHRS and Magnetometer location on the 10 (Strasnuts)
5. 09:58 AM - Hole left open for gluing doors (Russell Shavitz)
6. 10:05 AM - Re: Hole left open for gluing doors (Jim Berry)
7. 10:22 AM - Re: Re: Hole left open for gluing doors (Rob Kochman)
8. 10:57 AM - Re: New Latch Final Assembly (woxofswa)
9. 11:23 AM - Re: Re: New Latch Final Assembly (Bob Leffler)
10. 11:28 AM - Re: Finish Kit Question (Nick Nafsinger)
11. 12:11 PM - Re: New Latch Final Assembly (woxofswa)
12. 12:19 PM - Re: AHRS and Magnetometer location on the 10 (greghale)
13. 12:23 PM - Re: AHRS and Magnetometer location on the 10 (Bob Turner)
14. 01:18 PM - Holes left open (Russell Shavitz)
15. 02:17 PM - Re: Re: AHRS and Magnetometer location on the 10 (gary)
16. 09:53 PM - Re: Holes left open (Rob Kochman)
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| Subject: | AHRS and Magnetometer location on the 10 |
I know there is a conflict between the instructions and the distances
required, but I followed the recommended location directions and it works
fine. Van's has a mount for the AHRS that goes right beside the battery.
Gary Specketer
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Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 8:41 PM
Subject: RV10-List: AHRS and Magnetometer location on the 10
I don't get it. I read the G3x installation manual and noticed the bracket
they use to mount the magnetometer goes on the aft deck in front of the
horizontal. Later it suggest to keep it at least 10 feet from any motor or
servo. The elevator trim servo is right under the aft deck so I don't get
it. Would it be better in the wing opposite the one with the aileron servo?
It is a GMU 44. I plan on mounting the AHRS over the battery up high but
again the manual suggests to mount it no more than 6.5 feet from the cg.
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| Subject: | Re: AHRS and Magnetometer location on the 10 |
I may do the same with the AHRS. Does anyone know if the Van's mount works with
the GSU 73 too? I'm sure it can be adapted. I'm still wondering about the
magnetometer. AFT deck in front of horizontal or wingtip.
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| Subject: | Re: AHRS and Magnetometer location on the 10 |
The aft deck is easiest IMHO and it works just fine, even with the trim
right below it.
Gary Specketer
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Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 10:13 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: AHRS and Magnetometer location on the 10
I may do the same with the AHRS. Does anyone know if the Van's mount works
with the GSU 73 too? I'm sure it can be adapted. I'm still wondering about
the magnetometer. AFT deck in front of horizontal or wingtip.
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| Subject: | Re: AHRS and Magnetometer location on the 10 |
OK thanks Gary,
I assume the G900 has the same components or close to the GMU44 and GSU73.
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| Subject: | Hole left open for gluing doors |
Can anyone tell me what happens to the holes left open in the fuse sides to cleco
the door shells together after the shells are glued? Do these get flush rivets
and do they need to be dimpled before the skins are riveted?
Russell Shavitz
Shavitz Heating & Air Conditioning
4849 Main Street, Skokie, IL 60077
office: 847-678-1000
cell: 847-417-6622
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| Subject: | Re: Hole left open for gluing doors |
They do get flush rivets, so dimple them while you have easy access.
Jim Berry
40482
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| Subject: | Re: Hole left open for gluing doors |
In other words, yes they should have already been dimpled on your QB
fuselage.
-Rob
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Jim Berry <jimberry@qwest.net> wrote:
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> They do get flush rivets, so dimple them while you have easy access.
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> Jim Berry
> 40482
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| Subject: | Re: New Latch Final Assembly |
Great video Scott, thanks.
As someone just about to start on the doors, I am quite interested. Those who
follow are greatly blessed by you trailblazers.
Just to be devil's advocate for a brief moment, I have a question however.
It appears from the video that the cam is held to the axle by set screws. I'm
not an engineer by any means, but it seems to my neophyte understanding that the
"strength" of the assembly is limited by the gripping power of the set screws.
It would be interesting to see calcs on the potential outward pressure on the door
from the known low pressure "pull" outside the door in cruise versus the net
holding power of those set screws.
I assume the set screws are to allow for final adjustment. I am wondering if once
the position is set, drilling through the cam/axle assembly and installing
a high strength bolt or even a retaining clip might greatly increase both the
strength and longevity of the strength of the assembly.
One thing I have found in everything from Boeings to Cessnas is that set screws
often loosen up over time and vibration. In the spirit of fail safe design,
what ever system I end up using (I am leaning toward this one) I would want to
be able to sustain closure on its own (without the side pins). As ugly as the
VAn's solutions is, I do believe that it has the requisite strength.
Of course, my only experience with the whole thing is pictures so I could easily
be out to lunch which is why I would love comments by those with actual experience.
Best,
Myron
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Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Emp completed, legacy build fuse in progress
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| Subject: | Re: New Latch Final Assembly |
Myron,
Sean just answered a different question on VAF
(http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showpost.php?p=416283&postcount=9) ,
but I believe his answer addresses your concern too.
"The cabin block is made out of Delrin so it is pretty easy to sand on a
disc sander. Much easier than UHMW. When you get the kit you will see the
cam is fully adjustable on the shaft. It has an 8-32 set screw to
temporarily position the cam in out out and any clocking position. After you
are satisfied with the operation you can mark the shaft and cut it and
polish it. You then drill through a pilot hole that is on one side of the
cam and push a roll pin in that is supplied with the kit. That's how you can
change the position of the block on the cabin lip for different builds."
Bob
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of woxofswa
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 1:56 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: New Latch Final Assembly
Great video Scott, thanks.
As someone just about to start on the doors, I am quite interested. Those
who follow are greatly blessed by you trailblazers.
Just to be devil's advocate for a brief moment, I have a question however.
It appears from the video that the cam is held to the axle by set screws.
I'm not an engineer by any means, but it seems to my neophyte understanding
that the "strength" of the assembly is limited by the gripping power of the
set screws.
It would be interesting to see calcs on the potential outward pressure on
the door from the known low pressure "pull" outside the door in cruise
versus the net holding power of those set screws.
I assume the set screws are to allow for final adjustment. I am wondering
if once the position is set, drilling through the cam/axle assembly and
installing a high strength bolt or even a retaining clip might greatly
increase both the strength and longevity of the strength of the assembly.
One thing I have found in everything from Boeings to Cessnas is that set
screws often loosen up over time and vibration. In the spirit of fail safe
design, what ever system I end up using (I am leaning toward this one) I
would want to be able to sustain closure on its own (without the side pins).
As ugly as the VAn's solutions is, I do believe that it has the requisite
strength.
Of course, my only experience with the whole thing is pictures so I could
easily be out to lunch which is why I would love comments by those with
actual experience.
Best,
Myron
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Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Emp completed, legacy build fuse in progress
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| Subject: | Re: Finish Kit Question |
I'm confused. Tim's plans have always been linked directly off his site, no login
or such required. Did I miss why he is so upset?
Oh well, I guess he'll go in the same group with Checkoway as a good resource now
gone.
Nick Nafsinger
40569, Flying. 50+ Hrs
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Finishing (forever)
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| Subject: | Re: New Latch Final Assembly |
Ahhhh, Bach! Highly significant.
Great minds think alike!
I'm sold.
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Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse in progress
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| Subject: | Re: AHRS and Magnetometer location on the 10 |
I mounted my Chelton Magnetometer in the wing tip. When I got ready to install
the backup Dynon, I thought of installing it on the aft deck in front of the
horizontal. When I placed a compass to check if this was OK, the compass was
180 degrees off. I guess this was due to all the bolts and screws used in that
area. Also that locations could get wet from rain or washing the aircraft.
I eventually installed the Dynon's in the other wing tip. The Gadahrs is mounted
on the centerline of the aircraft.
Greg...
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www.nwacaptain.com
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| Subject: | Re: AHRS and Magnetometer location on the 10 |
my trim motor moves a compass when within a foot or so.
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My QB did not have these holes dimpled or countersunk does this cause a problem
when finishing?
Can I machine countersink the skins with the longerons riveted?
Russell Shavitz
Shavitz Heating & Air Conditioning
4849 Main Street, Skokie, IL 60077
office: 847-678-1000
cell: 847-417-6622
www.shavitz.com
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| Subject: | Re: AHRS and Magnetometer location on the 10 |
I do have the GMU44 but the AHRS is a GRS77.
Gary Specketer
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Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 12:42 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: AHRS and Magnetometer location on the 10
OK thanks Gary,
I assume the G900 has the same components or close to the GMU44 and GSU73.
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| Subject: | Re: Holes left open |
You definitely want to call Van's (if for nothing else, to notify them of
the error). I don't see how you have much of a choice but to countersink
them now.
-Rob
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Russell Shavitz <rashvac@earthlink.net>wrote:
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> My QB did not have these holes dimpled or countersunk does this cause a
> problem when finishing?
> Can I machine countersink the skins with the longerons riveted?
>
> Russell Shavitz
> Shavitz Heating & Air Conditioning
> 4849 Main Street, Skokie, IL 60077
> office: 847-678-1000
> cell: 847-417-6622
> www.shavitz.com
>
>
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Rob Kochman
RV-10 "Finishing" Kit
Woodinville, WA (near Seattle)
http://kochman.net/N819K
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