RV10-List Digest Archive

Mon 03/22/10


Total Messages Posted: 6



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 03:19 AM - Re: Holes left open (effectus@rogers.com)
     2. 06:18 AM - Re: Holes left open (Kelly McMullen)
     3. 09:27 AM - Re: Holes left open (effectus@rogers.com)
     4. 07:05 PM - permanant rudder trim (Wayne Williams)
     5. 11:37 PM - There goes the CG! (Scott Schmidt)
     6. 11:43 PM - Re: permanant rudder trim (AirMike)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:19:12 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Holes left open
    From: effectus@rogers.com
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    Time: 06:18:46 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Holes left open
    From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
    While the pop-rivet dimple die set works well in hard to reach areas, it is not likely to do much where the layer underneath is a longeron angle. Had to use the pop-rivet dies on the bottom skin of QB fuse for the six holes or so on each stiffener at the rear before joining tailcone. On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:10 AM, <effectus@rogers.com> wrote: > There is a set of dimple dies that you can get that go in your rivet tool. > They work like a pulled rivet. > > A pin is put through the center of the back side die and then put through > the hole. The front die is put over the pin and then you put the hand rivet > pulling tool over the pin. > > You then carefully squeeze the two dies together. > > This gives you a pretty good dimple that might require s clean up with the > counter sink. > > Dave Hertner > > > ________________________________ > From: Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com> > Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:27:39 -0700 > To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Holes left open > You definitely want to call Van's (if for nothing else, to notify = them of > the error).- I don't see how you have much of a choice but to= countersink > them now. > - > -Rob > > On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Russell Shavitz= <rashvac@ear= thlink.net> > wrote: > > --> RV10-List message posted = by: Russell Shavitz <rashvac@ea= rthlink.net> > > My QB did not have these holes dimpled or countersunk does this cause a > problem when finishing? > Can I machine countersink the skins with the lo= ngerons riveted? > > Russell Shavitz > Shavitz Heating & Air Condit= ioning > 4849 Main Street, Skokie, IL 60077 > office: -847-678-1000 > cell: -8= 47-417-6622 > www.sh= ================= > Browse, Chat, FAQ, > ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List" target="_blank">http:// > === > http://forums.m= le, List Admin. > ==== > > > -- > Rob Kochman > RV-10 "Finishing" Kit > Woodinville, WA (near Seattle) > = http://kochman.net/N819K > >


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    Time: 09:27:30 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Holes left open
    From: effectus@rogers.com
    Sorry about that! I didn't look closely enough at the location of the problem. Dave ------Original Message------ From: Kelly McMullen Sender: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: Holes left open Sent: Mar 22, 2010 8:38 AM While the pop-rivet dimple die set works well in hard to reach areas, it is not likely to do much where the layer underneath is a longeron angle. Had to use the pop-rivet dies on the bottom skin of QB fuse for the six holes or so on each stiffener at the rear before joining tailcone. On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:10 AM, <effectus@rogers.com> wrote: > There is a set of dimple dies that you can get that go in your rivet tool. > They work like a pulled rivet. > > A pin is put through the center of the back side die and then put through > the hole. The front die is put over the pin and then you put the hand rivet > pulling tool over the pin. > > You then carefully squeeze the two dies together. > > This gives you a pretty good dimple that might require s clean up with the > counter sink. > > Dave Hertner > > > ________________________________ > From: Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com> > Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:27:39 -0700 > To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Holes left open > You definitely want to call Van's (if for nothing else, to notify = them of > the error).- I don't see how you have much of a choice but to= countersink > them now. > - > -Rob > > On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Russell Shavitz= <rashvac@ear= thlink.net> > wrote: > > --> RV10-List message posted = by: Russell Shavitz <rashvac@ea= rthlink.net> > > My QB did not have these holes dimpled or countersunk does this cause a > problem when finishing? > Can I machine countersink the skins with the lo= ngerons riveted? > > Russell Shavitz > Shavitz Heating & Air Condit= ioning > 4849 Main Street, Skokie, IL 60077 > office: -847-678-1000 > cell: -8= 47-417-6622 > www.sh= ================= > Browse, Chat, FAQ, > ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List" target="_blank">http:// > === > http://forums.m= le, List Admin. > ==== > > > -- > Rob Kochman > RV-10 "Finishing" Kit > Woodinville, WA (near Seattle) > = http://kochman.net/N819K > >


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    Time: 07:05:30 PM PST US
    From: "Wayne Williams" <rwayne@gamewood.net>
    Subject: permanant rudder trim
    How big of a rudder trim are those flying ending up needing? I am amazed that I still have 1/3 a ball out (to the right) and wanting to fly right wing low with a 9" long x 1" deep wedge on the lower end of the rudder. If I lightly press right rudder, the ball centers, the wings level and speed increases.


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    Time: 11:37:29 PM PST US
    From: Scott Schmidt <scottmschmidt@yahoo.com>
    Subject: There goes the CG!
    Because of what happened Sunday I will get to carry cribs, strollers, toys, ect..... and don't mind one bit! I'm glad I have the RV-10. We had our first child, a little girl around noon on Sunday. I posted a few pictures here. Couldn't be happier :) http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=55892 Scott Schmidt scottmschmidt@yahoo.com


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    Time: 11:43:36 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: permanant rudder trim
    From: "AirMike" <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net>
    I have a 6" Vertical x 2" horiz trim piece that works perfectly. I know that it is the lazy man's (woman's or trans gender's) solution to a lot of trim-fly trim-fly sessions. (How is that for PC??? eh.....) -------- OSH '10 or Bust Q/B - testing phase 1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=291381#291381




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