RV10-List Digest Archive

Wed 05/05/10


Total Messages Posted: 23



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     1. 05:21 AM - Re: Alignment of engine mount holes seem off by quite a bit. (Lew Gallagher)
     2. 05:29 AM - Re: Alignment of engine mount holes seem off by quite a bit. (gary)
     3. 06:01 AM - Re: Alignment of engine mount holes seem off by quite a bit. (Dave Leikam)
     4. 06:44 AM - Re: Alignment of engine mount holes seem off by quite a bit. (Danny Riggs)
     5. 07:30 AM - Re: EFIS Simulators (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
     6. 07:37 AM - Re: Alignment of engine mount holes seem off by quite a bi 	t. (n801bh@netzero.com)
     7. 07:49 AM - Re: Alignment of engine mount holes seem off by quite a bit. (Don McDonald)
     8. 09:27 AM - Re: Alignment of engine mount holes seem off by quite a 	bit. (Rob Kochman)
     9. 10:11 AM - OT You think you are having a bad day? (Jim Berry)
    10. 10:35 AM - Re: Alignment of engine mount holes seem off by quite a bit. (Bob Turner)
    11. 11:19 AM - Re: OT You think you are having a bad day? (William Curtis)
    12. 12:03 PM - Re: OT You think you are having a bad day? (Bill Mauledriver Watson)
    13. 12:34 PM - eBay Avionics (Robin Marks)
    14. 02:03 PM - Re: eBay Avionics (N777TY)
    15. 02:30 PM - Re: eBay Avionics (Stein Bruch)
    16. 04:01 PM - Re: eBay Avionics (Pascal)
    17. 04:36 PM - Door/Baggage Locks (Michael Schipper)
    18. 04:59 PM - Re: Door/Baggage Locks (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
    19. 05:30 PM - Re: Door/Baggage Locks (Bob Leffler)
    20. 06:34 PM - RV-8 N998RV First Flight - Pilot Report And Photos! (Matt Dralle)
    21. 07:57 PM - Re: Door/Baggage Locks (Jim Berry)
    22. 10:47 PM - Re: Re: Door/Baggage Locks (McGann, Ron)
    23. 11:17 PM - Re: RV-8 N998RV First Flight - Pilot Report And Photos! (Roxanne and Mike Lefever)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:21:36 AM PST US
    From: "Lew Gallagher" <lewgall@charter.net>
    Subject: Re: Alignment of engine mount holes seem off by quite a bit.
    Hey Matthew, Ours was a very close fit. Three holes perfect, the last hole with minimal persuasion. I think I'd give Van's a call first before chasing the holes and get their opinion about bending the mount to fit the holes. Later, - Lew ----- Original Message ----- From: Matthew Collier To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 1:14 AM Subject: RV10-List: Alignment of engine mount holes seem off by quite a bit. Dear RV-10 list readers, I've been building my RV-10 for about a year and a half. It's time to install the engine mount and I was shocked to find the mounting holes are about 3/16" to 1/4" off from the pre-drilled holes in the firewall. I'm wondering if this is typical or if my mount was build a little off. If anyone out there knows if this is normally what is expected please let me know. Everything else in this excellent kit has fit very well and it's not my intention to speak poorly of the kit or Vans in any way. It's just surprising to find a mis-alignment so great in an area I would consider to be one of the most important. I'm tempted to try chasing the holes out but which ones do I align it with first? Everyone's comments and experiences are welcome. Thank you. Matthew Collier


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    Time: 05:29:57 AM PST US
    From: "gary" <speckter@comcast.net>
    Subject: Alignment of engine mount holes seem off by quite a bit.
    These mounts, actually mounts from most kit vendors, are off by a bit. Because of manufacturing and the welding process, some miss alignment occurs. Install the bolts in the areas that are the most inflexible, the center ones, and then work your way around to get the others in. I have not heard of any folks who were unable to get them in, it just takes holding your mouth just so and persuading it to move over a bit. Gary Specketer _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Collier Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 1:15 AM Subject: RV10-List: Alignment of engine mount holes seem off by quite a bit. Dear RV-10 list readers, I've been building my RV-10 for about a year and a half. It's time to install the engine mount and I was shocked to find the mounting holes are about 3/16" to 1/4" off from the pre-drilled holes in the firewall. I'm wondering if this is typical or if my mount was build a little off. If anyone out there knows if this is normally what is expected please let me know. Everything else in this excellent kit has fit very well and it's not my intention to speak poorly of the kit or Vans in any way. It's just surprising to find a mis-alignment so great in an area I would consider to be one of the most important. I'm tempted to try chasing the holes out but which ones do I align it with first? Everyone's comments and experiences are welcome. Thank you. Matthew Collier


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    Time: 06:01:00 AM PST US
    From: "Dave Leikam" <daveleikam@wi.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Alignment of engine mount holes seem off by quite a bit.
    I did not have too much trouble aligning the holes as I remember. It did take a small amount of persuading but not too bad. I just started installing the bolts and everything began to align. I did hear of at least one mount that was replaced by Van's however. Dave Leikam RV-10 #40496 N89DA Muskego, WI ----- Original Message ----- From: Matthew Collier To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 12:14 AM Subject: RV10-List: Alignment of engine mount holes seem off by quite a bit. Dear RV-10 list readers, I've been building my RV-10 for about a year and a half. It's time to install the engine mount and I was shocked to find the mounting holes are about 3/16" to 1/4" off from the pre-drilled holes in the firewall. I'm wondering if this is typical or if my mount was build a little off. If anyone out there knows if this is normally what is expected please let me know. Everything else in this excellent kit has fit very well and it's not my intention to speak poorly of the kit or Vans in any way. It's just surprising to find a mis-alignment so great in an area I would consider to be one of the most important. I'm tempted to try chasing the holes out but which ones do I align it with first? Everyone's comments and experiences are welcome. Thank you. Matthew Collier


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    Time: 06:44:15 AM PST US
    From: Danny Riggs <jdriggs49@msn.com>
    Subject: Alignment of engine mount holes seem off by quite a bit.
    Apparently this is pretty typical. I was complaining to my A&P friend and h e said that even on the certified planes that this was the usual (mis)fit. I was trying to do the mounting by myself but finally gave up and got some help. That made it somewhat easier. From: lewgall@charter.net Subject: Re: RV10-List: Alignment of engine mount holes seem off by quite a bit. Hey Matthew=2C Ours was a very close fit. Three holes perfect=2C the last hole with minimal persuasion. I think I'd give Van's a call first before chasing the holes and get their opinion about bending the mount to fit the holes. Later=2C - Lew ----- Original Message ----- From: Matthew Collier To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday=2C May 05=2C 2010 1:14 AM Subject: RV10-List: Alignment of engine mount holes seem off by quite a bit. Dear RV-10 list readers=2C I've been building my RV-10 for about a year and a half. It's time to install the engine mount and I was shocked to find the mounting holes are about 3/16" to 1/4" off from the pre-drilled holes in the firewall. I'm wondering if this is typical or if my mount was build a little off. If anyone out there knows if this is normal ly what is expected please let me know. Everything else in this excellent ki t has fit very well and it's not my intention to speak poorly of the kit or Van s in any way. It's just surprising to find a mis-alignment so great in an area I would consider to be one of the most important. I'm tempted to try chasin g the holes out but which ones do I align it with first? Everyone's comments an d experiences are welcome. Thank you. Matthew Collier href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics. com/Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search=2C chat and e-mail from your inbox . http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:O N:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3


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    Time: 07:30:41 AM PST US
    From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
    Subject: EFIS Simulators
    Ron, Short answer is that there is no simulator for GRT. There are a couple of other options that might help if you've actually got one of the display uni ts. 1) There is apparently an MS flight sim driver that allows you to plug your GRT in to the PC. I've never used it but on the surface it sounds in teresting. Chatter that I've seen sounds like usability is limited - prett y much display only. 2) GRTs have the ability to record/playback flight info. There are so me that you can download, put on a USB stick and then "playback" on a displ ay. This is really nice because you can flip between screens, etc. but aga in it's only playback and not entirely interactive. If you aren't already a member, I strongly recommend joining the GRT Yahoo group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GRT_EFIS/. You will find discussion , files for download, etc. that can be very helpful. Bob RV-10 N442PM (with 3 screen GRT) From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m atronics.com] On Behalf Of McGann, Ron Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 5:19 PM Subject: RV10-List: EFIS Simulators G'day all, Anybody know where I can get a GRT EFIS Simulator? Reading the manual only gets you so far and I'm not too keen on shaking down Synthetic and ILS app roaches inside controlled airspace until I have mastered the 'knobology'. Cheers Ron VH-XRM flying in Oz, finishing first annual


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    Time: 07:37:31 AM PST US
    From: "n801bh@netzero.com" <n801bh@netzero.com>
    Subject: Alignment of engine mount holes seem off by quite a bi
    t. This topic needs to be addressed with care. What is a slight misalignmen t to one person is way out to another.... The mount manufacturer should have a precise jig to hold the mount when fabricating it. It should fit very close,, not manhandled roughly to get to holes to line up. That wil l introduce stress to a part of the plane that needs to be as close to p erfect as possible. I can see it being maybe a 1/8 -1/4 of a hole off,, any more and I would NOT install it. IMHO. do not archive Ben Haas N801BH www.haaspowerair.com ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Danny Riggs <jdriggs49@msn.com> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Alignment of engine mount holes seem off by quit e a bit. Apparently this is pretty typical. I was complaining to my A&P friend an d he said that even on the certified planes that this was the usual (mis )fit. I was trying to do the mounting by myself but finally gave up and got some help. That made it somewhat easier. From: lewgall@charter.net Subject: Re: RV10-List: Alignment of engine mount holes seem off by quit e a bit. Hey Matthew, Ours was a very close fit. Three holes perfect, the last h ole with minimal persuasion. I think I'd give Van's a call first before chasing the holes and get their opinion about bending the mount to fit the holes. Later, - Lew----- Original Message ----- From: Matthew Collie r To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 1:14 AMSubje ct: RV10-List: Alignment of engine mount holes seem off by quite a bit. Dear RV-10 list readers, I've been building my RV-10 for about a year and a half. It's time to in stall the engine mount and I was shocked to find the mounting holes are about 3/16" to 1/4" off from the pre-drilled holes in the firewall. I'm wondering if this is typical or if my mount was build a little off. If a nyone out there knows if this is normally what is expected please let me know. Everything else in this excellent kit has fit very well and it's not my intention to speak poorly of the kit or Vans in any way. It's jus t surprising to find a mis-alignment so great in an area I would conside r to be one of the most important. I'm tempted to try chasing the holes out but which ones do I align it with first? Everyone's comments and exp eriences are welcome. Thank you. Matthew Collier href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matroni cs.com/Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/ c http://www.matronics.com/Navigatwww.matronics.com/contribution">http://w ww.matronics.com/contribution The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbo ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ============== ____________________________________________________________ 2550% Penny Stock Gains? Our last pick exploded 2550% - Join our newsletter for free picks! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4be181352fba92b9c61st04vuc


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    Time: 07:49:47 AM PST US
    From: Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Alignment of engine mount holes seem off by quite a bit.
    It's all about quality control.... if they have the proper jigs, and they w eld in the appropriate steps, it should be within pretty close tolerances. - Van's should make up an acceptance jig to ck the motor mounts prior to shipping.... depends on whether they're doing them, or they out-source them .- If it's out by as much as you say, I'd send it back in the hopes that the next one is better. Don McDonald --- On Wed, 5/5/10, Danny Riggs <jdriggs49@msn.com> wrote: From: Danny Riggs <jdriggs49@msn.com> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Alignment of engine mount holes seem off by quite a bit. Apparently this is pretty typical. I was complaining to my A&P friend and h e said that even on the certified planes that this was the usual (mis)fit. I was trying to do the mounting by myself but finally gave up and got some help. That made it somewhat easier. From: lewgall@charter.net Subject: Re: RV10-List: Alignment of engine mount holes seem off by quite a bit. Hey Matthew, - Ours was a very close fit.- Three holes perfect, the last hole with minim al persuasion.- I think I'd give Van's a call first before chasing the ho les and get their opinion about bending the mount to fit the holes. - Later, - Lew ----- Original Message ----- From: Matthew Collier Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 1:14 AM Subject: RV10-List: Alignment of engine mount holes seem off by quite a bit . Dear RV-10 list readers, I've been building my RV-10 for about a year and a half. It's time to insta ll the engine mount and I was shocked to find the mounting holes are about 3/16" to 1/4" off from the pre-drilled holes in the firewall. I'm wondering if this is typical or if my mount was build a little off. If anyone out th ere knows if this is normally what is expected please let me know. Everythi ng else in this excellent kit has fit very well and it's not my intention t o speak poorly of the kit or Vans in any way. It's just surprising to find a mis-alignment so great in an area I would consider to be one of the most important. I'm tempted to try chasing the holes out but which ones do I ali gn it with first? Everyone's comments and experiences are welcome. Thank you. Matthew Collier href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics. com/Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c http://www.matronics.com/Navigatwww.matronics.com/contribution">http://www .matronics.com/contribution The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Get started. =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 09:27:53 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Alignment of engine mount holes seem off by quite a bit.
    From: Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com>
    Before tightening any nuts, a few of my holes were perfect, but a couple others seemed way off (the pilot hole was barely within the engine mount hole). I then tightened the nuts on the holes that did align. That pulled the mount tight against the firewall, which also made the holes closer. At that point, they were all within 1/8" of center. Note I drilled my first hole without the mount on, then had my wife hold the mount while I drilled the second hole. From there, the mount holds itself :) -Rob On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com>wrote: > It's all about quality control.... if they have the proper jigs, and > they weld in the appropriate steps, it should be within pretty close > tolerances. Van's should make up an acceptance jig to ck the motor mounts > prior to shipping.... depends on whether they're doing them, or they > out-source them. If it's out by as much as you say, I'd send it back in the > hopes that the next one is better. > Don McDonald > > > --- On *Wed, 5/5/10, Danny Riggs <jdriggs49@msn.com>* wrote: > > > From: Danny Riggs <jdriggs49@msn.com> > Subject: RE: RV10-List: Alignment of engine mount holes seem off by quite a > bit. > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 6:21 AM > > Apparently this is pretty typical. I was complaining to my A&P friend and > he said that even on the certified planes that this was the usual (mis)fit. > I was trying to do the mounting by myself but finally gave up and got some > help. That made it somewhat easier. > > ------------------------------ > From: lewgall@charter.net > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Alignment of engine mount holes seem off by quite a > bit. > Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 08:13:09 -0400 > > Hey Matthew, > > Ours was a very close fit. Three holes perfect, the last hole with minimal > persuasion. I think I'd give Van's a call first before chasing the holes > and get their opinion about bending the mount to fit the holes. > > Later, - Lew > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Matthew Collier<http://us.mc537.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ivdiggs@gmail.com> > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com<http://us.mc537.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=rv10-list@matronics.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 05, 2010 1:14 AM > *Subject:* RV10-List: Alignment of engine mount holes seem off by quite a > bit. > > Dear RV-10 list readers, > > I've been building my RV-10 for about a year and a half. It's time to > install the engine mount and I was shocked to find the mounting holes are > about 3/16" to 1/4" off from the pre-drilled holes in the firewall. I'm > wondering if this is typical or if my mount was build a little off. If > anyone out there knows if this is normally what is expected please let me > know. Everything else in this excellent kit has fit very well and it's not > my intention to speak poorly of the kit or Vans in any way. It's just > surprising to find a mis-alignment so great in an area I would consider to > be one of the most important. I'm tempted to try chasing the holes out but > which ones do I align it with first? Everyone's comments and experiences are > welcome. > > Thank you. > > Matthew Collier > > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > * > > * http://www.matronics.com/Navigatwww.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > * > > > ------------------------------ > The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. Get > started.<http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3> > > * > > get=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > =nofollow>http://forums.matronics.com > blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > * > > > * > > * > > -- Rob Kochman RV-10 "Finishing" Kit Woodinville, WA (near Seattle) http://kochman.net/N819K


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    Time: 10:11:02 AM PST US
    Subject: OT You think you are having a bad day?
    From: "Jim Berry" <jimberry@qwest.net>
    Do not archive. Jim Berry 40482 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=296847#296847 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/jfkground_877.mp3


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    Time: 10:35:08 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Alignment of engine mount holes seem off by quite a bit.
    From: "Bob Turner" <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
    I had the same problem. Per Vans' advice I used a clamp to pull the mount over far enough that the firewall hole was still not centered, but completely within, the engine mount hole. Then I match drilled it. -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=296852#296852


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    Time: 11:19:40 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: OT You think you are having a bad day?
    From: William Curtis <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
    This is too funny. I don't think this is Boston Logan but I've flown into Boston Logon and by far the most difficult part of "flying" into a busy class B airport such as Logan is while on the ground and keeping up with the rapid-fire ground communication instructions. This wasn't even that fast, it was just as you say; everyone --especially the controller-- having a "bad day." don not archive -- William N40237 - http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/ On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Jim Berry <jimberry@qwest.net> wrote: > > Do not archive. > > Jim Berry > 40482 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=296847#296847 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/jfkground_877.mp3 > >


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    Time: 12:03:22 PM PST US
    From: Bill Mauledriver Watson <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: OT You think you are having a bad day?
    That really was too funny! JFK's multi-cultural mix makes it even more fun, especially the NYC controllers. Bill William Curtis wrote: > This is too funny. I don't think this is Boston Logan but I've flown > into Boston Logon and by far the most difficult part of "flying" into > a busy class B airport such as Logan is while on the ground and > keeping up with the rapid-fire ground communication instructions. > This wasn't even that fast, it was just as you say; everyone > --especially the controller-- having a "bad day." > > don not archive > > -- > William > N40237 - http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/ > > On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Jim Berry <jimberry@qwest.net > <mailto:jimberry@qwest.net>> wrote: > > <mailto:jimberry@qwest.net>> > > Do not archive. > > Jim Berry > 40482 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=296847#296847 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/jfkground_877.mp3 > > * > > > *


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    Time: 12:34:54 PM PST US
    From: Robin Marks <Robin@PaintTheWeb.com>
    Subject: eBay Avionics
    As an FYI for any builder about to make a avionics choice: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160431095390&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en#ht_2927wt_1165 Robin


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    Time: 02:03:16 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: eBay Avionics
    From: "N777TY" <microsmurfer@yahoo.com>
    So I guess they still haven't sold it. This was listed at Sun-n-Fun for $29,995 on a board in Wentworth's booth... I thought it was a good deal... -------- RV-7A N777TY Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=296868#296868


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    Time: 02:30:25 PM PST US
    From: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
    Subject: eBay Avionics
    A bit of Due Diligence is needed here. The system as pictured can't (read can NOT) be made into a G900X system since the GIA-63 boxes are Non-WAAS. You're stuck with a system that you can't load any G900X software on and they are old non WAAS boxes. No SVT terrain, etc.. They are great G-1000 components (for older installations or in Non-WAAS installs), but not a great solution for a G900X. If they were a steal, I'd have bought the same boxes at the same auction they did, as I have a pretty good idea of what stuff is worth. As always, buyer beware and do your homework before buying 2nd hand stuff without knowing EXACTLY what you're getting and exactly what you can do with it. My 2 cents as usual. Not trying to flame anyone, just trying to make sure nobody gets something they didn't bargain for. Cheers, Stein From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 2:26 PM Subject: RV10-List: eBay Avionics As an FYI for any builder about to make a avionics choice: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem <http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160431095390& fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en#ht_2927wt_1165> &item=160431095390&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en#ht_292 7wt_1165 Robin


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    Time: 04:01:54 PM PST US
    From: "Pascal" <rv10builder@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: eBay Avionics
    Stein; You and I spoke yesterday about our similar financial crunch, many may have forgotten what you did for your customers with those Cheltons when that company left everyone hanging a couple of years ago. It pays to remember you took the hit for them and made sure they were taken care of even if it meant delaying your progress on the RV-6 just as you are doing with this last post. I enjoyed our conversation and your insight, truly you are among the few that provide an excellent customer support experience and anyone who thinks a word of advice from you is flaming will eventually find their decision may leave them going down in flames. Thank you! Pascal From: Stein Bruch Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 2:26 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: eBay Avionics A bit of Due Diligence is needed here. The system as pictured can't (read can NOT) be made into a G900X system since the GIA-63 boxes are Non-WAAS. You're stuck with a system that you can't load any G900X software on and they are old non WAAS boxes. No SVT terrain, etc.. They are great G-1000 components (for older installations or in Non-WAAS installs), but not a great solution for a G900X. If they were a steal, I'd have bought the same boxes at the same auction they did, as I have a pretty good idea of what stuff is worth. As always, buyer beware and do your homework before buying 2nd hand stuff without knowing EXACTLY what you're getting and exactly what you can do with it. My 2 cents as usual. Not trying to flame anyone, just trying to make sure nobody gets something they didn't bargain for. Cheers, Stein From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 2:26 PM Subject: RV10-List: eBay Avionics As an FYI for any builder about to make a avionics choice: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160431095 390&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en#ht_2927wt_1165 Robin http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-Listhttp://forums.matronics.comht tp://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 04:36:13 PM PST US
    From: Michael Schipper <mike@learningplanet.com>
    Subject: Door/Baggage Locks
    Hello all, I'm wondering if anyone has solved this problem: I am trying to find three door locks, one for the baggage door and one each for the main doors. Spruce sells a set of two, but I'm not sure if these can be re-keyed. I'd like for all three locks to use the same key if possible. By the way, my ignition will not have a key as it uses the Vertical Power system. Any help would be appreciated. Mike Schipper #40576 - finishing - www.rvten.com


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    Time: 04:59:21 PM PST US
    From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
    Subject: Re: Door/Baggage Locks
    IFLYRV10.com Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> Sent: Wed May 05 16:35:11 2010 Subject: RV10-List: Door/Baggage Locks Hello all, I'm wondering if anyone has solved this problem: I am trying to find three door locks, one for the baggage door and one each for the main doors. Spruce sells a set of two, but I'm not sure if these can be re-keyed. I'd like for all three locks to use the same key if possible. By the way, my ignition will not have a key as it uses the Vertical Power system. Any help would be appreciated. Mike Schipper #40576 - finishing - www.rvten.com


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    Time: 05:30:39 PM PST US
    From: "Bob Leffler" <rv@thelefflers.com>
    Subject: Door/Baggage Locks
    You can get them from iflyrv10.com. If you are more energetic, you may be able to pick them up at home depot or lowes. Your local locksmith should also be able to assist. Most sell hardware. bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Schipper Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 7:35 PM Subject: RV10-List: Door/Baggage Locks Hello all, I'm wondering if anyone has solved this problem: I am trying to find three door locks, one for the baggage door and one each for the main doors. Spruce sells a set of two, but I'm not sure if these can be re-keyed. I'd like for all three locks to use the same key if possible. By the way, my ignition will not have a key as it uses the Vertical Power system. Any help would be appreciated. Mike Schipper #40576 - finishing - www.rvten.com


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    Time: 06:34:22 PM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: RV-8 N998RV First Flight - Pilot Report And Photos!
    Dear Listers, Monday May 2 2010 at 1:15pm, RV-8 #82880 N998RV took to the air for the first time! The first flight was about 30 minutes and all systems worked as expected. The only post-flight adjustments necessary were an increase in the amount of available Up trim, and a decrease in the upper RPM limit on the Hartzell prop. After a smooth takeoff, I climbed out and circled the airport at about three to four thousand feet for a couple of circuits then came around and landed making a nice three-point landing with no bounce. The plane handled excellent and the power from the IO-390 and the Hartzell can only be experienced to be believed! What a great combination! I want to thank Van's for designing such a great aircraft and for producing such an outstanding kit. I would also like to thank all my List friends for their help and assistance during the project. And of course, a special thanks to all of my personal friends that have come over and lent at hand during the construction - I own you guys a ride and a $100 hamburger when I get the Phase 1 time flown off! Probably in the Fall or Winter some time, plan to take it in for painting. I'm planning on a Candy Apply Red with some very understated and elegant golden trim with a nice clear coat. For all those that are still building - keep at it! The end result is 100% worth the time and effort you put into the project. That first flight will be the experience of a lifetime and something you won't soon forget! Attached are some pictures from the first flight and few shots of the engine, panel, and interior. Below, I've listed the system highlights. Build Hours: 2457 Hours Build Time: 23 Months Kit: Van's RV-8 QB Engine: Lycoming IO-390 210hp Ignition: Slick Mags w/ Slick-Start Module Exhaust: Vetterman IO-390 4-into-4 System (Sounds Great!) Prop: Hartzell 72" Constant Speed Governor: PCU5000 Alternator Primary: 60a Plain Power Belt Drive Alternator Secondary: 20a B&C Direct Drive w/ B&C External Regulator Steam Gauges: NONE! Flight Instruments: Triple 6.5" GRT HX / Dual GRT AHRSs / Dual Magnetometers Realtime Weather: XM Module For GRT HX & XM Module For Kenwood DNX-8120 Autopilot: TruTrak Digiflight II VSGV Two Axis w/ Auto Trim Module Fuel Flow: Matronics FuelChec DX GPS: Dual GRT Modules (Garmin engine) Radio: Garmin SL-30 Transponder: Garmin GTX-327 Electrical System: Vertical Power VP-200 Entertainment: Kenwood DNX-8120 with 7" LCD / Psgr 7" Remote LCD XM Radio / DVD / 64GB MP3 / HD AM-FM / XM Weather / Full Bluetooth integration with Blackberry (make and receive calls through headsets) Intercom: PS3000 Stereo Headphones: Bose Aviation Headset X Interior: Classic Aero - All Leather over All Comferfoam Carpet: Custom design - Cut & Sewn by Classic Aero Oxygen System: Mountain High O2D2 w/ Electronic Tank Valve & PSI Seat Belts: Hooker 5-Point Harness Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel Status: Test Flight


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    Time: 07:57:45 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Door/Baggage Locks
    From: "Jim Berry" <jimberry@qwest.net>
    If you are using a keyed ignition switch, you can special order from ACS a switch and three door/baggage locks all keyed alike. A little more expensive to special order, but I really like having only one key for everything. Jim Berry 40482 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=296898#296898


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    Time: 10:47:13 PM PST US
    From: "McGann, Ron" <Ron.McGann@ausawd.com>
    Subject: Re: Door/Baggage Locks
    Just a bit of a heads up for those not based in the US of A, I ordered the 2 lock system from Spruce, but only received one key. When I tried to have a duplicate cut here in Oz, I could not find a locksmith that had key blanks that matched the US style. So I still only have one key (that I am VERY careful with) until I find a local distributor for cam locks of the appropriate size. Cheers Ron VH-XRM flying in Oz Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Berry Sent: Thursday, 6 May 2010 12:54 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Door/Baggage Locks If you are using a keyed ignition switch, you can special order from ACS a switch and three door/baggage locks all keyed alike. A little more expensive to special order, but I really like having only one key for everything. Jim Berry 40482 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=296898#296898


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    Time: 11:17:35 PM PST US
    From: Roxanne and Mike Lefever <roxianmike@msn.com>
    Subject: RV-8 N998RV First Flight - Pilot Report And Photos!
    Where I come from they "that sure is purty!" > Date: Wed=2C 5 May 2010 18:27:08 -0700 > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > From: dralle@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: RV-8 N998RV First Flight - Pilot Report And Photos! > > > Dear Listers=2C > > Monday May 2 2010 at 1:15pm=2C RV-8 #82880 N998RV took to the air for the first time! The first flight was about 30 minutes and all systems worked a s expected. The only post-flight adjustments necessary were an increase in the amount of available Up trim=2C and a decrease in the upper RPM limit on the Hartzell prop. After a smooth takeoff=2C I climbed out and circled the airport at about three to four thousand feet for a couple of circuits then came around and landed making a nice three-point landing with no bounce. T he plane handled excellent and the power from the IO-390 and the Hartzell c an only be experienced to be believed! What a great combination! > > I want to thank Van's for designing such a great aircraft and for produci ng such an outstanding kit. I would also like to thank all my List friends for their help and assistance during the project. And of course=2C a specia l thanks to all of my personal friends that have come over and lent at hand during the construction - I own you guys a ride and a $100 hamburger when I get the Phase 1 time flown off! > > Probably in the Fall or Winter some time=2C plan to take it in for painti ng. I'm planning on a Candy Apply Red with some very understated and elegan t golden trim with a nice clear coat. > > For all those that are still building - keep at it! The end result is 100 % worth the time and effort you put into the project. That first flight wil l be the experience of a lifetime and something you won't soon forget! > > Attached are some pictures from the first flight and few shots of the eng ine=2C panel=2C and interior. Below=2C I've listed the system highlights. > > Build Hours: 2457 Hours > Build Time: 23 Months > Kit: Van's RV-8 QB > Engine: Lycoming IO-390 210hp > Ignition: Slick Mags w/ Slick-Start Module > Exhaust: Vetterman IO-390 4-into-4 System (Sounds Great!) > Prop: Hartzell 72" Constant Speed > Governor: PCU5000 > Alternator Primary: 60a Plain Power Belt Drive > Alternator Secondary: 20a B&C Direct Drive w/ B&C External Regulator > Steam Gauges: NONE! > Flight Instruments: Triple 6.5" GRT HX / Dual GRT AHRSs / Dual Magnetomet ers > Realtime Weather: XM Module For GRT HX & XM Module For Kenwood DNX-8120 > Autopilot: TruTrak Digiflight II VSGV Two Axis w/ Auto Trim Module > Fuel Flow: Matronics FuelChec DX > GPS: Dual GRT Modules (Garmin engine) > Radio: Garmin SL-30 > Transponder: Garmin GTX-327 > Electrical System: Vertical Power VP-200 > Entertainment: Kenwood DNX-8120 with 7" LCD / Psgr 7" Remote LCD > XM Radio / DVD / 64GB MP3 / HD AM-FM / XM Weather / > Full Bluetooth integration with Blackberry (make > and receive calls through headsets) > Intercom: PS3000 Stereo > Headphones: Bose Aviation Headset X > Interior: Classic Aero - All Leather over All Comferfoam > Carpet: Custom design - Cut & Sewn by Classic Aero > Oxygen System: Mountain High O2D2 w/ Electronic Tank Valve & PSI > Seat Belts: Hooker 5-Point Harness > > > Matt Dralle > RV-8 #82880 N998RV > http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog > http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel > Status: Test Flight




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