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1. 06:44 AM - paint thickness? (Strasnuts)
2. 06:54 AM - Re: Cabin frame and Mcmaster-Carr door seals (jayb)
3. 07:25 AM - Engine control cables touch mount (jayb)
4. 09:01 AM - Electronic Circuit Breakers on your EFIS (marcausman)
5. 12:05 PM - Fw: Ray Allen position sensor for flaps (Michael Kraus)
6. 12:07 PM - Re: paint thickness? (Tim Olson)
7. 01:09 PM - Re: Engine control cables touch mount (Michael Kraus)
8. 01:15 PM - Re: Engine control cables touch mount (Don McDonald)
9. 01:45 PM - Re: paint thickness? (Jim Berry)
10. 02:03 PM - OT: iPad GPS (Tim Olson)
11. 02:40 PM - Re: OT: iPad GPS (Jesse Saint)
12. 03:44 PM - Re: OT: iPad GPS (Sean Garrison)
13. 04:19 PM - Re: Ray Allen position sensor for flaps (Alan Mekler)
14. 04:33 PM - Re: OT: iPad GPS (Tim Olson)
15. 04:33 PM - Re: OT: iPad GPS (Michael Kraus)
16. 04:33 PM - Re: Ray Allen position sensor for flaps (John Gonzalez)
17. 04:47 PM - Re: OT: iPad GPS (McGann, Ron)
18. 04:49 PM - Re: OT: iPad GPS (Robin Marks)
19. 05:24 PM - Re: Re: paint thickness? (Deems Davis)
20. 05:42 PM - Re: Re: paint thickness? (Seano)
21. 05:47 PM - Re: Re: paint thickness? (Robin Marks)
22. 05:47 PM - Re: OT: iPad GPS (Sohrab Kermanj)
23. 06:57 PM - Re: OT: iPad GPS (Tim Olson)
24. 07:10 PM - Re: OT: iPad GPS (Jesse Saint)
25. 07:55 PM - Re: Ray Allen position sensor for flaps (Michael Kraus)
26. 09:29 PM - Re: OT: iPad GPS (Lenny Iszak)
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| Subject: | paint thickness? |
Just curious how much material (roughly) to remove between the door and the cabin
for paint. I have a flush fit with no gap now.
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Cust. #40936
RV-10 SB Fuselage
N801VR reserved
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| Subject: | Re: Cabin frame and Mcmaster-Carr door seals |
Photos? Especially of running the seal around the door hinges and/or strut area.
Thanks,
Jay
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| Subject: | Engine control cables touch mount |
I have a Vans throttle quadrant and am using the cables that came with it run through
standard FW holes.
Here's the issue... The -540 engine sump comes close to the lower mount tube (at
least in my case). This means that neither the mixture or prop cable can be
run as shown in the plans - which assume vernier controls btw. Both are routed
under the lower mount touch the tube. The throttle cable runs in the place shown
by the plans, but it too rests right on the mount tube and is quite snug against
it. It seems to reason that the cables will chaffe against the engine mount
over time as they are attached to a mucho vibrating engine.
I called Vans the other day and asked them for some input. Ken said to make sure
that there was at least 1/2" of slack in the cables. He also confirmed what
I've heard elsewhere that there is quite a bit of variation in lycosaur engine
dimensions. Vans ran into this first hand on their -12. There was a comment made
about procuring longer cables from the vendor if required (hmmm... not a good
customer experience).
I recently saw another builders -10 when it was down for its annual. This one used
standard verniers, but its throttle cable also touched the engine mount. The
builder had used a ~3" piece of clamped up rubber hose around the cable where
it touched the mount tube. Seems like a pretty good low tech solution that
doesn't involve buying new cables.
Anyone else have this problem and if so how did you solve it?
Regards,
Jay
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| Subject: | Electronic Circuit Breakers on your EFIS |
Vertical Power, along with its EFIS partners, recently announced the VP-X Electronic
Circuit Breaker System.
The VP-X uses proven electronic circuit breakers to simplify wiring and provide
advanced electrical system capabilities. Monitor the status of individual devices
and the entire electrical system right from your EFIS. Avionics, lights,
trim, and flaps can all be controlled using standard switches or the EFIS.
The VP-X works with Advanced Flight Systems, Grand Rapids Technologies HX and HX
Sport, and MGL Voyager/Odyssey Gen 2 EFIS products.
Click to learn more. http://www.verticalpower.com/VPX.html
--------
Marc Ausman
http://www.verticalpower.com "Move up to a modern electrical system"
RV-7 IO-390 Flying
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| Subject: | Ray Allen position sensor for flaps |
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Begin forwarded message:
> From: Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
> Date: May 10, 2010 7:38:13 AM EDT
> To: "rv10-list@matronics.com" <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Ray Allen position sensor for flaps
>
> Here is what I did, I don't have any final installation pictures
> with me, but it turned out great.
>
> I can take another picture tonight if you need it. I mounted it on
> the lower rivet hole where the rear 5 point harness was.
>
> -Mike Kraus
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 10, 2010, at 12:46 AM, John Gonzalez <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I installed the showplane flap system and I am running through
>> ideas on where to mount my Ray Allen Pos 12 sensor so my AFS EFIS
>> can display flap position.
>>
>> Can anyone direct me to their photos or post a few.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> JOhn G
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: paint thickness? |
You'll probably have to use your best guess, but, I'd leave something
like 1/8" or more. You don't want that seam to be ultra
flush when you're done. Let the door seal do it's work and
give it an 1/8 or more. Besides, if you later fabric cover
the door (which is nice and quieter), you will want even more gap.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
Strasnuts wrote:
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> Just curious how much material (roughly) to remove between the door and the cabin
for paint. I have a flush fit with no gap now.
>
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> Cust. #40936
> RV-10 SB Fuselage
> N801VR reserved
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| Subject: | Re: Engine control cables touch mount |
Can't you put an adel clamp around it and secure it to another adel
clamp around the engine mount to keep it from rubbing?
Sent from my iPhone
On May 11, 2010, at 10:24 AM, "jayb" <jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I have a Vans throttle quadrant and am using the cables that came
> with it run through standard FW holes.
>
> Here's the issue... The -540 engine sump comes close to the lower
> mount tube (at least in my case). This means that neither the
> mixture or prop cable can be run as shown in the plans - which
> assume vernier controls btw. Both are routed under the lower mount
> touch the tube. The throttle cable runs in the place shown by the
> plans, but it too rests right on the mount tube and is quite snug
> against it. It seems to reason that the cables will chaffe against
> the engine mount over time as they are attached to a mucho vibrating
> engine.
>
> I called Vans the other day and asked them for some input. Ken said
> to make sure that there was at least 1/2" of slack in the cables. He
> also confirmed what I've heard elsewhere that there is quite a bit
> of variation in lycosaur engine dimensions. Vans ran into this first
> hand on their -12. There was a comment made about procuring longer
> cables from the vendor if required (hmmm... not a good customer
> experience).
>
> I recently saw another builders -10 when it was down for its annual.
> This one used standard verniers, but its throttle cable also touched
> the engine mount. The builder had used a ~3" piece of clamped up
> rubber hose around the cable where it touched the mount tube. Seems
> like a pretty good low tech solution that doesn't involve buying new
> cables.
>
> Anyone else have this problem and if so how did you solve it?
>
> Regards,
> Jay
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=297351#297351
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Engine control cables touch mount |
Especially if you have cold air induction,,,,, just buy different length ca
bles... several had to modify the motor mounts.
Don
--- On Tue, 5/11/10, jayb <jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: jayb <jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com>
Subject: RV10-List: Engine control cables touch mount
I have a Vans throttle quadrant and am using the cables that came with it r
un through standard FW holes.
Here's the issue... The -540 engine sump comes close to the lower mount tub
e (at least in my case). This means that neither the mixture or prop cable
can be run as shown in the plans - which assume vernier controls btw. Both
are routed under the lower mount touch the tube. The throttle cable runs in
the place shown by the plans, but it too rests right on the mount tube and
is quite snug against it. It seems to reason that the cables will chaffe a
gainst the engine mount over time as they are attached to a mucho vibrating
engine.
I called Vans the other day and asked them for some input. Ken said to make
sure that there was at least 1/2" of slack in the cables. He also confirme
d what I've heard elsewhere that there is quite a bit of variation in lycos
aur engine dimensions. Vans ran into this first hand on their -12. There wa
s a comment made about procuring longer cables from the vendor if required
(hmmm... not a good customer experience).
I recently saw another builders -10 when it was down for its annual. This o
ne used standard verniers, but its throttle cable also touched the engine m
ount. The builder had used a ~3" piece of clamped up rubber hose around the
cable where it touched the mount tube. Seems like a pretty good low tech s
olution that doesn't involve buying new cables.
Anyone else have this problem and if so how did you solve it?
Regards,
Jay
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=297351#297351
le, List Admin.
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| Subject: | Re: paint thickness? |
My paint guru said to allow at least 0.020" gap. A properly applied paint job on
both sides will fill approximately half of that, leaving a final gap of about
0.010".
Jim Berry
40482
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Just an FYI on iPad and GPS....
I use a Holux M1000 bluetooth GPS with my LE1600 and
Voyager. It works well, as do many GPS models.
I did the Spirit Jailbreak of my iPad 3G, which takes
all of 10 seconds to do, and is a braindead simple thing
to do. Once jailbroken, I purchased ROQY-BT on Cydia
for $8 euros. It's a bluetooth stack I've used on my iphone
and ipod touch to connect to the same GPS, which is higher
performance than the one built into the 3G apple stuff.
It works perfectly. So even if you just have a Wi-Fi
iPad, if you're willing to be careful and do the things
that you want to do to jailbreak it, you can use external
bluetooth GPS's with it. With Foreflight that means
it'll locate you on the charts, and the mapping program
on the apple works super well.
Tim
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: OT: iPad GPS |
Does the 3G iPad actually have GPS in it? I can't find good answers to this.
Does it work about the same as the GPS in the iPhone 3G or 3G-S at altitude?
I have done the ROQY-BT thing on an iPod Touch and it worked great and was super
simple. That was a great tip!
Thanks.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On May 11, 2010, at 5:00 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
> Just an FYI on iPad and GPS....
>
> I use a Holux M1000 bluetooth GPS with my LE1600 and
> Voyager. It works well, as do many GPS models.
>
> I did the Spirit Jailbreak of my iPad 3G, which takes
> all of 10 seconds to do, and is a braindead simple thing
> to do. Once jailbroken, I purchased ROQY-BT on Cydia
> for $8 euros. It's a bluetooth stack I've used on my iphone
> and ipod touch to connect to the same GPS, which is higher
> performance than the one built into the 3G apple stuff.
> It works perfectly. So even if you just have a Wi-Fi
> iPad, if you're willing to be careful and do the things
> that you want to do to jailbreak it, you can use external
> bluetooth GPS's with it. With Foreflight that means
> it'll locate you on the charts, and the mapping program
> on the apple works super well.
>
> Tim
> do not archive
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: OT: iPad GPS |
ThNk you soooo much. I bought the iPad wifi and was trying to figure out a way
to do a bluetooth GPS.. I am going to give this a try.
Sean
On May 11, 2010, at 5:00 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
>
> Just an FYI on iPad and GPS....
>
> I use a Holux M1000 bluetooth GPS with my LE1600 and
> Voyager. It works well, as do many GPS models.
>
> I did the Spirit Jailbreak of my iPad 3G, which takes
> all of 10 seconds to do, and is a braindead simple thing
> to do. Once jailbroken, I purchased ROQY-BT on Cydia
> for $8 euros. It's a bluetooth stack I've used on my iphone
> and ipod touch to connect to the same GPS, which is higher
> performance than the one built into the 3G apple stuff.
> It works perfectly. So even if you just have a Wi-Fi
> iPad, if you're willing to be careful and do the things
> that you want to do to jailbreak it, you can use external
> bluetooth GPS's with it. With Foreflight that means
> it'll locate you on the charts, and the mapping program
> on the apple works super well.
>
> Tim
> do not archive
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Ray Allen position sensor for flaps |
Mike,
Your pictures didn't come through. Can you try again?
Alan
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Kraus
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 10:18 AM
Subject: Fwd: RV10-List: Ray Allen position sensor for flaps
Sent from my iPhone
Begin forwarded message:
From: Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Ray Allen position sensor for flaps
Here is what I did, I don't have any final installation pictures with me,
but it turned out great.
I can take another picture tonight if you need it. I mounted it on the
lower rivet hole where the rear 5 point harness was.
-Mike Kraus
IMG_0896.JPGIMG_0897.JPG
Sent from my iPhone
On May 10, 2010, at 12:46 AM, John Gonzalez <
<mailto:indigoonlatigo@msn.com> indigoonlatigo@msn.com> wrote:
I installed the showplane flap system and I am running through ideas on
where to mount my Ray Allen Pos 12 sensor so my AFS EFIS can display flap
position.
Can anyone direct me to their photos or post a few.
Thanks,
JOhn G
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| Subject: | Re: OT: iPad GPS |
Yes, the 3G ipad has a gps. It's a bit better than the iPhone 3GS
one, but still not nearly as quick to lock as most Bluetooth ones
would be. I just bought roqy to a) verify it would work for others,
and b) give me a real good reliable alternative. It's handy because
you can put the puck on your dash and not care if the pad/pod has a
good sky view in a car.
Plus, on my 3GS, if you go airplane mode you lose GPS. Haven't
verified that on the ipad yet. But, I don't want noisy cell signals in
the cockpit on ifr flights, and sure don't want accidental data fees
when out of the US, so Bluetooth gives GPS without cell having a cell
radio on.
Plus, if you're in the sky and the phone/pad can't get a good signal,
your battery life is horrible, so this keeps the battery drain down a
little too.
Tim
On May 11, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
wrote:
>
> Does the 3G iPad actually have GPS in it? I can't find good answers
> to this. Does it work about the same as the GPS in the iPhone 3G or
> 3G-S at altitude?
>
> I have done the ROQY-BT thing on an iPod Touch and it worked great
> and was super simple. That was a great tip!
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> Cell: 352-427-0285
> Fax: 815-377-3694
>
> On May 11, 2010, at 5:00 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
>>
>> Just an FYI on iPad and GPS....
>>
>> I use a Holux M1000 bluetooth GPS with my LE1600 and
>> Voyager. It works well, as do many GPS models.
>>
>> I did the Spirit Jailbreak of my iPad 3G, which takes
>> all of 10 seconds to do, and is a braindead simple thing
>> to do. Once jailbroken, I purchased ROQY-BT on Cydia
>> for $8 euros. It's a bluetooth stack I've used on my iphone
>> and ipod touch to connect to the same GPS, which is higher
>> performance than the one built into the 3G apple stuff.
>> It works perfectly. So even if you just have a Wi-Fi
>> iPad, if you're willing to be careful and do the things
>> that you want to do to jailbreak it, you can use external
>> bluetooth GPS's with it. With Foreflight that means
>> it'll locate you on the charts, and the mapping program
>> on the apple works super well.
>>
>> Tim
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: OT: iPad GPS |
I received my 3G iPad a week ago last Friday. So far the GPS appears
to work equally as well as my 3G iPhone, even though I have not
activated the data service.
I have not used it on Foreflight yet, but I have on AirNav Pro and on
SkyCharts Pro and it works awesome! The larger screen is incredible.
The approach plates fit nicely on the screen and are easily readable....
Let me know if you want some screenshots.
-Mike Kraus
Sent from my iPhone
On May 11, 2010, at 5:00 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>
> Just an FYI on iPad and GPS....
>
> I use a Holux M1000 bluetooth GPS with my LE1600 and
> Voyager. It works well, as do many GPS models.
>
> I did the Spirit Jailbreak of my iPad 3G, which takes
> all of 10 seconds to do, and is a braindead simple thing
> to do. Once jailbroken, I purchased ROQY-BT on Cydia
> for $8 euros. It's a bluetooth stack I've used on my iphone
> and ipod touch to connect to the same GPS, which is higher
> performance than the one built into the 3G apple stuff.
> It works perfectly. So even if you just have a Wi-Fi
> iPad, if you're willing to be careful and do the things
> that you want to do to jailbreak it, you can use external
> bluetooth GPS's with it. With Foreflight that means
> it'll locate you on the charts, and the mapping program
> on the apple works super well.
>
> Tim
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Ray Allen position sensor for flaps |
Picture didn't come through please send again.
John
From: n223rv@wolflakeairport.net
Subject: Fwd: RV10-List: Ray Allen position sensor for flaps
Sent from my iPhone
Begin forwarded message:
From: Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Ray Allen position sensor for flaps
Here is what I did=2C I don't have any final installation pictures with me
=2C but it turned out great.
I can take another picture tonight if you need it. I mounted it on the low
er rivet hole where the rear 5 point harness was.
-Mike Kraus
Sent from my iPhone
On May 10=2C 2010=2C at 12:46 AM=2C John Gonzalez <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
wrote:
I installed the showplane flap system and I am running through ideas on whe
re to mount my Ray Allen Pos 12 sensor so my AFS EFIS can display flap posi
tion.
Can anyone direct me to their photos or post a few.
Thanks=2C
JOhn G
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com/Navigator?RV10-List
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May have been covered before, but are the ipad displays up to snuff for viewing
in cockpit light levels (sunlight)? I have a Viliv S5 that is awesome, but unusable
in direct sunlight.
Cheers
Ron
VH-XRM, flying in Oz
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Kraus
Sent: Wednesday, 12 May 2010 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: OT: iPad GPS
I received my 3G iPad a week ago last Friday. So far the GPS appears
to work equally as well as my 3G iPhone, even though I have not
activated the data service.
I have not used it on Foreflight yet, but I have on AirNav Pro and on
SkyCharts Pro and it works awesome! The larger screen is incredible.
The approach plates fit nicely on the screen and are easily readable....
Let me know if you want some screenshots.
-Mike Kraus
Sent from my iPhone
On May 11, 2010, at 5:00 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>
> Just an FYI on iPad and GPS....
>
> I use a Holux M1000 bluetooth GPS with my LE1600 and
> Voyager. It works well, as do many GPS models.
>
> I did the Spirit Jailbreak of my iPad 3G, which takes
> all of 10 seconds to do, and is a braindead simple thing
> to do. Once jailbroken, I purchased ROQY-BT on Cydia
> for $8 euros. It's a bluetooth stack I've used on my iphone
> and ipod touch to connect to the same GPS, which is higher
> performance than the one built into the 3G apple stuff.
> It works perfectly. So even if you just have a Wi-Fi
> iPad, if you're willing to be careful and do the things
> that you want to do to jailbreak it, you can use external
> bluetooth GPS's with it. With Foreflight that means
> it'll locate you on the charts, and the mapping program
> on the apple works super well.
>
> Tim
> do not archive
>
>
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BTW I stumbled across this recently for the iPad. Expensive but...
I am "This Close" to giving up flying and just play with my iPad(s).
http://www.tuaw.com/2010/04/21/pilots-take-your-ipad-flying-with-the-tech-
board-ipro-kneeboard/
Robin
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| Subject: | Re: paint thickness? |
That's pretty tight IMO. A lot will depend on your painter, and whether
you use a single stage paint or base/clear/ different painters prefer
different coverages. I allowed between 1/16 - 3/32, and in a couple of
places its just barely enough (base/clear paint job).
Deems Davis
N519PJ
www.deemsrv10.com
On 5/11/2010 1:45 PM, Jim Berry wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim Berry"<jimberry@qwest.net>
>
> My paint guru said to allow at least 0.020" gap. A properly applied paint job
on both sides will fill approximately half of that, leaving a final gap of about
0.010".
>
> Jim Berry
> 40482
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> Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: paint thickness? |
Thanks. I will be having base/clear paint. I will shoot for .080.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 11, 2010, at 18:19, Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> wrote:
> That's pretty tight IMO. A lot will depend on your painter, and
> whether you use a single stage paint or base/clear/ different
> painters prefer different coverages. I allowed between 1/16 - 3/32,
> and in a couple of places its just barely enough (base/clear paint
> job).
>
> Deems Davis
> N519PJ
> www.deemsrv10.com
>
> On 5/11/2010 1:45 PM, Jim Berry wrote:
>>
>>
>> My paint guru said to allow at least 0.020" gap. A properly applied
>> paint job on both sides will fill approximately half of that,
>> leaving a final gap of about 0.010".
>>
>> Jim Berry
>> 40482
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=297400#297400
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: paint thickness? |
I personally prefer a wide gap that has an even, constant spread in
the gap (door
gap, cowl gap) than a tighter gap that is not even.
I wish I had followed my own advice on the baggage door. It's a bit too
tight.
Robin
Sent from my iPad
Wahoo!
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| Subject: | Re: OT: iPad GPS |
keep us updated please when you use skycharts pro. thanks.
do not archive
On May 11, 2010, at 7:20 PM, Michael Kraus wrote:
>
> I received my 3G iPad a week ago last Friday. So far the GPS appears to work
equally as well as my 3G iPhone, even though I have not activated the data service.
>
> I have not used it on Foreflight yet, but I have on AirNav Pro and on SkyCharts
Pro and it works awesome! The larger screen is incredible. The approach plates
fit nicely on the screen and are easily readable....
>
> Let me know if you want some screenshots.
>
> -Mike Kraus
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 11, 2010, at 5:00 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Just an FYI on iPad and GPS....
>>
>> I use a Holux M1000 bluetooth GPS with my LE1600 and
>> Voyager. It works well, as do many GPS models.
>>
>> I did the Spirit Jailbreak of my iPad 3G, which takes
>> all of 10 seconds to do, and is a braindead simple thing
>> to do. Once jailbroken, I purchased ROQY-BT on Cydia
>> for $8 euros. It's a bluetooth stack I've used on my iphone
>> and ipod touch to connect to the same GPS, which is higher
>> performance than the one built into the 3G apple stuff.
>> It works perfectly. So even if you just have a Wi-Fi
>> iPad, if you're willing to be careful and do the things
>> that you want to do to jailbreak it, you can use external
>> bluetooth GPS's with it. With Foreflight that means
>> it'll locate you on the charts, and the mapping program
>> on the apple works super well.
>>
>> Tim
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: OT: iPad GPS |
Just noticed that yesterday a new Bluetooth GPS stack for only $5 came
out on cydia. It's called BTstack GPS.
Haven't tried it but if it works, it's half the price...and you can
test it as a demo first.
Tim
On May 11, 2010, at 5:12 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>
> Yes, the 3G ipad has a gps. It's a bit better than the iPhone 3GS
> one, but still not nearly as quick to lock as most Bluetooth ones
> would be. I just bought roqy to a) verify it would work for others,
> and b) give me a real good reliable alternative. It's handy because
> you can put the puck on your dash and not care if the pad/pod has a
> good sky view in a car.
> Plus, on my 3GS, if you go airplane mode you lose GPS. Haven't
> verified that on the ipad yet. But, I don't want noisy cell signals
> in the cockpit on ifr flights, and sure don't want accidental data
> fees when out of the US, so Bluetooth gives GPS without cell having
> a cell radio on.
> Plus, if you're in the sky and the phone/pad can't get a good
> signal, your battery life is horrible, so this keeps the battery
> drain down a little too.
> Tim
>
>
> On May 11, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
> wrote:
>
>> <jesse@saintaviation.com>
>>
>> Does the 3G iPad actually have GPS in it? I can't find good
>> answers to this. Does it work about the same as the GPS in the
>> iPhone 3G or 3G-S at altitude?
>>
>> I have done the ROQY-BT thing on an iPod Touch and it worked great
>> and was super simple. That was a great tip!
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Jesse Saint
>> Saint Aviation, Inc.
>> jesse@saintaviation.com
>> Cell: 352-427-0285
>> Fax: 815-377-3694
>>
>> On May 11, 2010, at 5:00 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Just an FYI on iPad and GPS....
>>>
>>> I use a Holux M1000 bluetooth GPS with my LE1600 and
>>> Voyager. It works well, as do many GPS models.
>>>
>>> I did the Spirit Jailbreak of my iPad 3G, which takes
>>> all of 10 seconds to do, and is a braindead simple thing
>>> to do. Once jailbroken, I purchased ROQY-BT on Cydia
>>> for $8 euros. It's a bluetooth stack I've used on my iphone
>>> and ipod touch to connect to the same GPS, which is higher
>>> performance than the one built into the 3G apple stuff.
>>> It works perfectly. So even if you just have a Wi-Fi
>>> iPad, if you're willing to be careful and do the things
>>> that you want to do to jailbreak it, you can use external
>>> bluetooth GPS's with it. With Foreflight that means
>>> it'll locate you on the charts, and the mapping program
>>> on the apple works super well.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>> do not archive
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: OT: iPad GPS |
Thanks. I've been looking for that type of feedback all over the place and everywhere
just talks about A-GPS, but there is no consensus on truly what that means.
Thanks for finding out for the rest of us!
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On May 11, 2010, at 6:12 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
> Yes, the 3G ipad has a gps. It's a bit better than the iPhone 3GS one, but still
not nearly as quick to lock as most Bluetooth ones would be. I just bought
roqy to a) verify it would work for others, and b) give me a real good reliable
alternative. It's handy because you can put the puck on your dash and not
care if the pad/pod has a good sky view in a car.
> Plus, on my 3GS, if you go airplane mode you lose GPS. Haven't verified that
on the ipad yet. But, I don't want noisy cell signals in the cockpit on ifr flights,
and sure don't want accidental data fees when out of the US, so Bluetooth
gives GPS without cell having a cell radio on.
> Plus, if you're in the sky and the phone/pad can't get a good signal, your battery
life is horrible, so this keeps the battery drain down a little too.
> Tim
>
>
>
> On May 11, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Does the 3G iPad actually have GPS in it? I can't find good answers to this.
Does it work about the same as the GPS in the iPhone 3G or 3G-S at altitude?
>>
>> I have done the ROQY-BT thing on an iPod Touch and it worked great and was super
simple. That was a great tip!
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Jesse Saint
>> Saint Aviation, Inc.
>> jesse@saintaviation.com
>> Cell: 352-427-0285
>> Fax: 815-377-3694
>>
>> On May 11, 2010, at 5:00 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Just an FYI on iPad and GPS....
>>>
>>> I use a Holux M1000 bluetooth GPS with my LE1600 and
>>> Voyager. It works well, as do many GPS models.
>>>
>>> I did the Spirit Jailbreak of my iPad 3G, which takes
>>> all of 10 seconds to do, and is a braindead simple thing
>>> to do. Once jailbroken, I purchased ROQY-BT on Cydia
>>> for $8 euros. It's a bluetooth stack I've used on my iphone
>>> and ipod touch to connect to the same GPS, which is higher
>>> performance than the one built into the 3G apple stuff.
>>> It works perfectly. So even if you just have a Wi-Fi
>>> iPad, if you're willing to be careful and do the things
>>> that you want to do to jailbreak it, you can use external
>>> bluetooth GPS's with it. With Foreflight that means
>>> it'll locate you on the charts, and the mapping program
>>> on the apple works super well.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>> do not archive
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ray Allen position sensor for flaps |
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| Subject: | Re: OT: iPad GPS |
Jesse,
A-GPS is Assisted GPS, which means the GPS does not have to look for all of the
satellites, but it can download the almanac (the current position of the satellites)
from a remote server. This way you never have to wait for a "cold start"
which could take several minutes.
And that's probably why the iPhone has trouble getting a GPS lock in the air, when
there's no 3G signal.
I think the confusion comes from how the old, 2G iPhone, without a GPS chip used
to calculate it's approximate position from cell towers.
Here's more info on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS
Lenny
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