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1. 06:09 AM - Re: Re: Transponder Antenna Location (gary)
2. 11:14 AM - Re: Speaker in overhead console (AirMike)
3. 11:19 AM - Traveling to Israel (AirMike)
4. 02:51 PM - EGT probes (DLM)
5. 03:39 PM - Re: EGT probes (Kelly McMullen)
6. 03:56 PM - Re: EGT probes (Marcus Cooper)
7. 04:18 PM - Left Wingtip Length (Sean Stephens)
8. 04:19 PM - Re: EGT probes (McGann, Ron)
9. 04:48 PM - Re: EGT probes (DLM)
10. 04:59 PM - FW: EGT probe (DLM)
11. 04:59 PM - Another RV10 finished (greghale)
12. 05:45 PM - Re: Left Wingtip Length (davidsoutpost@comcast.net)
13. 06:09 PM - Re: Left Wingtip Length (Jesse Saint)
14. 06:11 PM - Re: Another RV10 finished (dmaib@me.com)
15. 07:20 PM - Re: Another RV10 finished (Marcus Cooper)
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Subject: | Re: Transponder Antenna Location |
I have mine on the centerline just aft of the fire wall. Mine too looks
like the exhaust might block some of the signal, but it has worked fine all
the time. Mine is quite far forward before the pipes get very far down
along the sides of the antenna. I have the big Forsling exhaust that is
about 3" in diameter at the end.
Gary Specketer
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jkreidler
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 9:52 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Transponder Antenna Location
<jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com>
Kelly, we did have the typical inspection performed where he sets up a tests
apparatus, but that is done in the shop. Is there another way they test?
We have not narrowed it to a specific geographic location, it seems to
happen at random. Our suspicion is that the antenna is being shadowed by
the exhaust pipes. We were going to move the antenna back a foot or so, but
wanted to get some feedback before making an assumption that that is the
real problem. If others have it in the same location and are not having the
problem then we would need to dig deeper. We did verify the cables and
connections were good.
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Jason Kreidler
4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI
Tony Kolar, Kyle Hokel, Wayne Elser, Jason Kreidler
N44YH - Flying - #40617
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Subject: | Re: Speaker in overhead console |
I used the right back seat armrest area. It is easy to hear an reverberates in
the cabin. Also easy to wire and repair in this area.
I think that you have to check the impedance to match the output.
Just remember magnets
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OSH '10 or Bust
Q/B - phase 1 / painting
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Subject: | Traveling to Israel |
Any RV10 builders or flying 10's out there.
Love to see your build share tips and talk planes.
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OSH '10 or Bust
Q/B - phase 1 / painting
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Any suggestions for long life EGT probes? I have 278 TT on my RV10 and have
replaced 3 EGT probes from GRT. Failures have been on 6 then 4 (or 2) then
1. #2 failed this morning. Some are the original GRT EIS probes and some are
their allegedly long life probes. I lost the third one on a trip to IL and
GRT FEDEXed two "long life" probes to IL. I changed #1 and kept the spare.
This morning on a local training flight, #2 failed (again?). Probes are
located 2 inches below the exhaust port (specs call 2-6"). EGTs normally see
high 1300 /low 1400 in cruise. takeoff and climb EGTs are 1200-1350. At
altitude the LOP operation usually provided CHTs (275-325) and EGTs
(1360-1410). GEM probes on a previous aircraft (TC177RG) were rated for
1650 F red line and since my normal operation was about EGTs at 1400. I
replaced two probes in 29 years of ownership and 2500 hours. I have now
replaced 4 GRT probes in 278 hours. I am considering a completely new set of
Alcor or GEM probes
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Dave, I have almost the same exact hours on the EI fast response
probes installed in my Mooney at 1.5" from exhaust flange, per their
instructions. Haven't replace any so far.
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 2:49 PM, DLM <dlm46007@cox.net> wrote:
> Any suggestions for long life EGT probes? I have 278 TT on my RV10 and have
> replaced 3 EGT probes from GRT. Failures have been on 6 then 4 (or 2)then
> 1. #2 failed this morning. Some are the original GRT EIS probes and some are
> their allegedly long life probes. I lost the third one on a trip to IL and
> GRT FEDEXed two "long life" probes to IL. I changed #1 and kept the spare.
> This morning on a local training flight, #2 failed (again?). Probes are
> located2 inches below the exhaust port (specs call 2-6"). EGTs normally
> seehigh 1300 /low 1400 in cruise. takeoff and climb EGTs are 1200-1350. At
> altitude the LOP operation usually provided CHTs (275-325) and EGTs
> (1360-1410). GEM probes on a previous aircraft (TC177RG) were rated for
> 1650 F red line and since my normal operation was aboutEGTs at 1400. I
> replaced two probes in 29 years of ownership and 2500 hours. I have now
> replaced4 GRT probes in 278 hours. I am considering a completely new set of
> Alcor or GEM probes
>
>
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It's probably been covered, but what where your indications of a probe
failure? I've got one on the fritz reading a constant very low temp but I
don't know if it's the wiring or the probe gone bad. I also have the GRT
setup and 450 hours TT.
Thanks,
Marcus
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DLM
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 5:50 PM
Subject: RV10-List: EGT probes
Any suggestions for long life EGT probes? I have 278 TT on my RV10 and have
replaced 3 EGT probes from GRT. Failures have been on 6 then 4 (or 2) then
1. #2 failed this morning. Some are the original GRT EIS probes and some are
their allegedly long life probes. I lost the third one on a trip to IL and
GRT FEDEXed two "long life" probes to IL. I changed #1 and kept the spare.
This morning on a local training flight, #2 failed (again?). Probes are
located 2 inches below the exhaust port (specs call 2-6"). EGTs normally see
high 1300 /low 1400 in cruise. takeoff and climb EGTs are 1200-1350. At
altitude the LOP operation usually provided CHTs (275-325) and EGTs
(1360-1410). GEM probes on a previous aircraft (TC177RG) were rated for
1650 F red line and since my normal operation was about EGTs at 1400. I
replaced two probes in 29 years of ownership and 2500 hours. I have now
replaced 4 GRT probes in 278 hours. I am considering a completely new set of
Alcor or GEM probes
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Subject: | Left Wingtip Length |
I know there's been many discussions about wingtips that are too long,
but going through the archives I cannot find how much is too much. My
left wingtip is ~3/16 of an inch too long. It is aligned correctly with
the aileron and I'm more worried about cutting and re-glassing it
causing mis-alignment.
Is 3/16 too much so as to effect flight, or should I be satisfied that
the alignment is good and just leave it? How much extra length have
others just left?
-Sean #40303
http://rv10.stephensville.com
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I had a probe failure at 25hrs. Symptoms were intermittent extremes (zero
to top of scale) while the engine was running/hot. Could not replicate the
fault on the ground with the engine at ambient (though the temp from the d
odgy probe differed from the others by a few degs) - it really looked like
an intermittent connection due to engine vibe. Replaced the probe and it w
orked like a charm (after much investigation into the connectors).
Cheers
Ron
VH-XRM, flying in Oz
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atronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Cooper
Sent: Monday, 17 May 2010 8:56 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: EGT probes
It's probably been covered, but what where your indications of a probe fail
ure? I've got one on the fritz reading a constant very low temp but I don'
t know if it's the wiring or the probe gone bad. I also have the GRT setup
and 450 hours TT.
Thanks,
Marcus
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of DLM
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 5:50 PM
Subject: RV10-List: EGT probes
Any suggestions for long life EGT probes? I have 278 TT on my RV10 and have
replaced 3 EGT probes from GRT. Failures have been on 6 then 4 (or 2) then
1. #2 failed this morning. Some are the original GRT EIS probes and some a
re their allegedly long life probes. I lost the third one on a trip to IL a
nd GRT FEDEXed two "long life" probes to IL. I changed #1 and kept the spar
e. This morning on a local training flight, #2 failed (again?). Probes are
located 2 inches below the exhaust port (specs call 2-6"). EGTs normally se
e high 1300 /low 1400 in cruise. takeoff and climb EGTs are 1200-1350. At a
ltitude the LOP operation usually provided CHTs (275-325) and EGTs (1360-14
10). GEM probes on a previous aircraft (TC177RG) were rated for 1650 F red
line and since my normal operation was about EGTs at 1400. I replaced two
probes in 29 years of ownership and 2500 hours. I have now replaced 4 GRT
probes in 278 hours. I am considering a completely new set of Alcor or GEM
probes
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The present failure is a constant low value reading. about 100-150.
Other failures have been erratic. For example a 900 reading followed a
second later by a 1300 reading. When removed, that probe had the outer
cover burnt off and the welded leads to a small thermocouple were
showing . One lead was detached from the thermocouple and was
intermittently touching. the exhaust gases passing by would have caused
the intermittent readings. will send picture of failed lead from
another computer if I find it.
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From: Marcus Cooper
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 3:56 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: EGT probes
It's probably been covered, but what where your indications of a probe
failure? I've got one on the fritz reading a constant very low temp but
I don't know if it's the wiring or the probe gone bad. I also have the
GRT setup and 450 hours TT.
Thanks,
Marcus
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DLM
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 5:50 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: EGT probes
Any suggestions for long life EGT probes? I have 278 TT on my RV10 and
have replaced 3 EGT probes from GRT. Failures have been on 6 then 4 (or
2) then 1. #2 failed this morning. Some are the original GRT EIS probes
and some are their allegedly long life probes. I lost the third one on a
trip to IL and GRT FEDEXed two "long life" probes to IL. I changed #1
and kept the spare. This morning on a local training flight, #2 failed
(again?). Probes are located 2 inches below the exhaust port (specs call
2-6"). EGTs normally see high 1300 /low 1400 in cruise. takeoff and
climb EGTs are 1200-1350. At altitude the LOP operation usually provided
CHTs (275-325) and EGTs (1360-1410). GEM probes on a previous aircraft
(TC177RG) were rated for 1650 F red line and since my normal operation
was about EGTs at 1400. I replaced two probes in 29 years of ownership
and 2500 hours. I have now replaced 4 GRT probes in 278 hours. I am
considering a completely new set of Alcor or GEM probes
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Found it. See the picture.
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From: David McNeill [mailto:dlm46007@cox.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:37 AM
Subject: EGT probe
FYI GRT just replaced this at no charge. TT was 210 hours.
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Subject: | Another RV10 finished |
N210KH has a brand new airworthiness certificate and ready to fly. Just waiting
for the rain and storms in Oklahoma to stop. 40hours to go then Oshkosh.
Greg Hale
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www.nwacaptain.com
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Subject: | Re: Left Wingtip Length |
My left tip was 1/2" too long while the right was perfect. Mark it to length, cut
it, then split it if needed and bevel the inside so it mates up nice. Rough
the inside up with 36 grit REAL good including a 1" forward area for taping.
Mix up some stiff flox, butter up the joint and clamp it straight with light spring
clamps. Filet the inside with a little flox, paint the sanded area with
pure epoxy and apply 2 layers of 1.5 - 2" BID fiberglass tape cut on the diagonal
and wet them out. Trim and finish when cured.
David Clifford
RV-10 Builder
65% Done-95% To Go
N849RV (reserved)
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From: "Sean Stephens" <sean@stephensville.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 7:14:06 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RV10-List: Left Wingtip Length
I know there's been many discussions about wingtips that are too long,
but going through the archives I cannot find how much is too much. My
left wingtip is ~3/16 of an inch too long. It is aligned correctly with
the aileron and I'm more worried about cutting and re-glassing it
causing mis-alignment.
Is 3/16 too much so as to effect flight, or should I be satisfied that
the alignment is good and just leave it? How much extra length have
others just left?
-Sean #40303
http://rv10.stephensville.com
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Subject: | Re: Left Wingtip Length |
I think it's just an aesthetic issue, not a safety of flight one.
It's kind of like the sanding/filing down of the wing skin where they
overlap at the spar. Some have to have that seam perfectly flush
while some just rivet it on as it comes from Van's.
Do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation
jesse@saintaviation.com
352-427-0285
Sent from my iPhone
On May 16, 2010, at 7:14 PM, Sean Stephens <sean@stephensville.com>
wrote:
> <sean@stephensville.com>
>
> I know there's been many discussions about wingtips that are too
> long, but going through the archives I cannot find how much is too
> much. My left wingtip is ~3/16 of an inch too long. It is aligned
> correctly with the aileron and I'm more worried about cutting and re-
> glassing it causing mis-alignment.
>
> Is 3/16 too much so as to effect flight, or should I be satisfied
> that the alignment is good and just leave it? How much extra length
> have others just left?
>
> -Sean #40303
> http://rv10.stephensville.com
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Another RV10 finished |
Fantastic Greg! Congratulations. I have followed your project and even have your
seat adjustment levers on my airplane. (They work great!) I look forward to
seeing your airplane. I know it is a work of art.
Happy Flying!
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David Maib
RV-10 #40559
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Subject: | Another RV10 finished |
Congratulations!!! Now finally for the fun part!
Marcus
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Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 7:59 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Another RV10 finished
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N210KH has a brand new airworthiness certificate and ready to fly. Just
waiting for the rain and storms in Oklahoma to stop. 40hours to go then
Oshkosh.
Greg Hale
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Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH
www.nwacaptain.com
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