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1. 07:57 AM - Re: Re: Transponder Antenna Location (John Cumins)
2. 08:15 AM - Re: Another RV10 finished (Deems Davis)
3. 12:12 PM - GRT probes (DLM)
4. 12:45 PM - Tow Studs (Lew Gallagher)
5. 01:37 PM - Re: GRT probes (Scott Schmidt)
6. 01:55 PM - Contact for Loehle products (Bill Mauledriver Watson)
7. 02:03 PM - Re: GRT probes (Tim Olson)
8. 02:08 PM - Re: GRT probes (Danny Riggs)
9. 02:11 PM - Re: Contact for Loehle products (Danny Riggs)
10. 02:23 PM - Re: Tow Studs (Danny Riggs)
11. 03:43 PM - Re: GRT probes (Bob Leffler)
12. 03:52 PM - Re: GRT probes (McGann, Ron)
13. 04:22 PM - Re: GRT probes (DLM)
14. 04:22 PM - Re: GRT probes (DLM)
15. 06:02 PM - Re: GRT probes (Scott Schmidt)
16. 06:13 PM - Re: GRT probes (Tim Olson)
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Subject: | Re: Transponder Antenna Location |
Being a RF guy that does a lot of radio work for my company. I would not
place any antenna between the Exhaust stacks you are blocking the radiation
of the antenna a lot. Metal will reflect the radiation of the transmit.
Move the antenna to the far Right or Left and I bet it will work much
better.
John G. Cumins
President
2499 B1 Martin Rd
Fairfield Ca 94534
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Cooper
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 5:17 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Transponder Antenna Location
Mine is in the same location, about a foot aft of the firewall, with the
same xpdr. No issues to date with 450 hours.
Marcus
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N777TY
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 7:52 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Transponder Antenna Location
I doubt that's the problem.. Mine's on the right side.. maybe 10 inches to
the right of the centerline (so it's not in the exhaust path)... and it
works perfect.. never skipped a beat..
Have you had your txp checked per 91.413? Did it pass that inspection?
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N777TY
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Subject: | Re: Another RV10 finished |
Well done Greg!
Let me know where you are going to park @ OSH, cause I want to be as far
away as possible. You've set a pretty high standard. Do you want to
share you Empty Weight? Or did all of those mods result in weight
savings ;-)
Deems Davis
N519PJ
www.deemsrv10.com
PS the Glaresheild and seat levers are doing well.
On 5/16/2010 4:59 PM, greghale wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "greghale"<ghale5224@aol.com>
>
> N210KH has a brand new airworthiness certificate and ready to fly. Just waiting
for the rain and storms in Oklahoma to stop. 40hours to go then Oshkosh.
>
> Greg Hale
>
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> www.nwacaptain.com
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Changed the EGT probe on #2 today. This is the second time to replace #2 EGT
probe. Note the black shrink wrap near the connectors. These are the cheaper
probes from GRT. Note that I did not say inexpensive.; the price from GRT is
about $10 less than their "higher quality" probe. I did not know this when I
received and installed my EIS 6000. They are not inexpensive because in 278
hours I have had four failures using these probes. Each time a failure
occurs, the aircraft must be uncowled and a part obtained from GRT. Each
failure cost about 2 hours of my labor and acquisition and AOG freight
charges to remedy. If you use GRT probes at least insist on the EGT probes
with the white shrink wrap near the connectors; they are the "higher
quality" probes.
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Hey Guys,
I've read about complaints of tow jockies messing up the completed nose wheel pants,
so now that we've finished the fly off and installed the pants, I asked
the hangar guys and they agreed that getting their bars in the cut outs could
be done carefully, but eventually would mess up the paint.
So here are pics of what I did. Simply replaced the socket head bolts with 2.5
inch ones with a spacer and washer so that the stud is exterior to the fiberglass/paint
with a washer flush so that the tow bar seats without going into the
shell. It's really not noticeable and aerodynamic clutter is minimal. The
longer bolts cost $1.00, made the spacers. The hangar guys love it -- thought
I'd see what y'all thought.
Later, - Lew
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non-pilot
crazy about building
NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
Fly off completed !
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I have now replaced all six probes after 650 hours of flying.
If you have not flown I would return everyone of them and get the higher quality
probe that GRT offers. So far, no problems with them.
-Scott Schmidt
Sent from my iPhone
On May 17, 2010, at 1:09 PM, "DLM" <dlm46007@cox.net> wrote:
Changed the EGT probe on #2 today. This is the second time to replace #2 EGT probe.
Note the black shrink wrap near the connectors. These are the cheaper probes
from GRT. Note that I did not say inexpensive.; the price from GRT is about
$10 less than their "higher quality" probe. I did not know this when I received
and installed my EIS 6000. They are not inexpensive because in 278 hours
I have had four failures using these probes. Each time a failure occurs, the aircraft
must be uncowled and a part obtained from GRT. Each failure cost about
2 hours of my labor and acquisition and AOG freight charges to remedy. If you
use GRT probes at least insist on the EGT probes with the white shrink wrap near
the connectors; they are the "higher quality" probes.
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Subject: | Contact for Loehle products |
Can anyone help me get in touch with the folks at Loehle. I have been
trying to order some product for about a week and can't seem to get an
order into the website, an answer to email, or a message on their
phone. I'm hoping they just may be on vacation in which case I can
wait...but want to make sure I'm not missing something.
Thanks
Bill "FG dust (cont)" Watson
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I've been following this with interest because I've been
flying 625 hours now with only one probe failure on
the same probes, in fact the black labeled ones. In
fact, the failure I had was due to the crimped end.
I've removed them twice or so, when I removed the exhaust,
and reinstalled. I'm not sure why mine have been
reliable, but they have been.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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Scott Schmidt wrote:
> I have now replaced all six probes after 650 hours of flying.
> If you have not flown I would return everyone of them and get the higher
> quality probe that GRT offers. So far, no problems with them.
>
> -Scott Schmidt
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 17, 2010, at 1:09 PM, "DLM" <dlm46007@cox.net
> <mailto:dlm46007@cox.net>> wrote:
>
>> Changed the EGT probe on #2 today. This is the second time to replace
>> #2 EGT probe. Note the black shrink wrap near the connectors. These
>> are the cheaper probes from GRT. Note that I did not say inexpensive.;
>> the price from GRT is about $10 less than their "higher quality"
>> probe. I did not know this when I received and installed my EIS 6000.
>> They are not inexpensive because in 278 hours I have had four failures
>> using these probes. Each time a failure occurs, the aircraft must be
>> uncowled and a part obtained from GRT. Each failure cost about 2 hours
>> of my labor and acquisition and AOG freight charges to remedy. If you
>> use GRT probes at least insist on the EGT probes with the white shrink
>> wrap near the connectors; they are the "higher quality" probes.
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Just how expensive are the better ones?
From: scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: GRT probes
I have now replaced all six probes after 650 hours of flying. If you have n
ot flown I would return everyone of them and get the higher quality probe t
hat GRT offers. So far=2C no problems with them.
-Scott Schmidt
Sent from my iPhone
On May 17=2C 2010=2C at 1:09 PM=2C "DLM" <dlm46007@cox.net> wrote:
Changed the EGT
probe on #2 today. This is the second time to replace #2 EGT probe. Note
the black shrink wrap near the connectors. These are the cheaper probes fro
m
GRT. Note that I did not say inexpensive.=3B the price from GRT is about $1
0 less
than their "higher quality" probe. I did not know this when I received and
installed my EIS 6000. They are not inexpensive because in 278 hours I have
had
four failures using these probes. Each time a failure occurs=2C the
aircraft must be uncowled and a part obtained from GRT. Each failure cost a
bout
2 hours of my labor and acquisition and AOG freight charges to remedy. If y
ou
use GRT probes at least insist on the EGT probes with the white shrink wrap
near
the connectors=3B they are the "higher quality"
probes.
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Subject: | Contact for Loehle products |
i've bought a lot of stuff from them and never had much luck with the web s
ite or the fax. Fax usually not plugged in. Call between 9 to 11:30 and 1:3
0 to 4 CST got me the best luck. Also other times but those were the best.
Dan
> Date: Mon=2C 17 May 2010 16:51:55 -0400
> From: MauleDriver@nc.rr.com
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Contact for Loehle products
>
rr.com>
>
> Can anyone help me get in touch with the folks at Loehle. I have been
> trying to order some product for about a week and can't seem to get an
> order into the website=2C an answer to email=2C or a message on their
> phone. I'm hoping they just may be on vacation in which case I can
> wait...but want to make sure I'm not missing something.
>
> Thanks
> Bill "FG dust (cont)" Watson
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excellent idea. very nice looking plane also!!!!!
> Subject: RV10-List: Tow Studs
> From: lewgall@charter.net
> Date: Mon=2C 17 May 2010 12:42:10 -0700
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>
>
> Hey Guys=2C
>
> I've read about complaints of tow jockies messing up the completed nose w
heel pants=2C so now that we've finished the fly off and installed the pant
s=2C I asked the hangar guys and they agreed that getting their bars in the
cut outs could be done carefully=2C but eventually would mess up the paint
.
>
> So here are pics of what I did. Simply replaced the socket head bolts wi
th 2.5 inch ones with a spacer and washer so that the stud is exterior to t
he fiberglass/paint with a washer flush so that the tow bar seats without g
oing into the shell. It's really not noticeable and aerodynamic clutter is
minimal. The longer bolts cost $1.00=2C made the spacers. The hangar guy
s love it -- thought I'd see what y'all thought.
>
> Later=2C - Lew
>
> --------
> non-pilot
> crazy about building
> NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
> Fly off completed !
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=297995#297995
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Scott,
How do you determine which ones are the higher quality?
I only see reference to a standard set of probes on their site.
Thanks,
Bob
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott Schmidt
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: GRT probes
I have now replaced all six probes after 650 hours of flying.
If you have not flown I would return everyone of them and get the higher
quality probe that GRT offers. So far, no problems with them.
-Scott Schmidt
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I have not checked the archives over at VAF on this topic, but it might be
worthwhile starting a thread over there. There are a bucket load of RVs us
ing the GRT system and their probes. I have found GRT great to deal with,
and I'm sure they will take appropriate action if there is any hint of nega
tive press.
Cheers
Ron
VH-XRM, flying in Oz
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of DLM
Sent: Tuesday, 18 May 2010 5:10 AM
Subject: RV10-List: GRT probes
Changed the EGT probe on #2 today. This is the second time to replace #2 EG
T probe. Note the black shrink wrap near the connectors. These are the chea
per probes from GRT. Note that I did not say inexpensive.; the price from G
RT is about $10 less than their "higher quality" probe. I did not know this
when I received and installed my EIS 6000. They are not inexpensive becau
se in 278 hours I have had four failures using these probes. Each time a fa
ilure occurs, the aircraft must be uncowled and a part obtained from GRT. E
ach failure cost about 2 hours of my labor and acquisition and AOG freight
charges to remedy. If you use GRT probes at least insist on the EGT probes
with the white shrink wrap near the connectors; they are the "higher qualit
y" probes.
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$10 more per probe
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Danny Riggs
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 2:08 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: GRT probes
Just how expensive are the better ones?
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From: scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: GRT probes
I have now replaced all six probes after 650 hours of flying.
If you have not flown I would return everyone of them and get the higher
quality probe that GRT offers. So far, no problems with them.
-Scott Schmidt
Sent from my iPhone
On May 17, 2010, at 1:09 PM, "DLM" <dlm46007@cox.net> wrote:
Changed the EGT probe on #2 today. This is the second time to replace #2 EGT
probe. Note the black shrink wrap near the connectors. These are the cheaper
probes from GRT. Note that I did not say inexpensive.; the price from GRT is
about $10 less than their "higher quality" probe. I did not know this when I
received and installed my EIS 6000. They are not inexpensive because in 278
hours I have had four failures using these probes. Each time a failure
occurs, the aircraft must be uncowled and a part obtained from GRT. Each
failure cost about 2 hours of my labor and acquisition and AOG freight
charges to remedy. If you use GRT probes at least insist on the EGT probes
with the white shrink wrap near the connectors; they are the "higher
quality" probes.
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Sandy indicated that there were two different quality probes; she indicated
that the standard (black wrap) probes work for most. Perhaps they got a bad
batch. She said that the white wrap are available for about $10 more per
probe. I have also researched GEM, Alcor and EI and may buy a replacement
set from EI. My Glastar had all EI engine instruments and in 530 hours I
never had a EGT or any of their probes fail. On my C177RG I had a GEM603 and
had one or maybe two EGT probe failures over at least 15 years and 2000+
hours.
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 3:44 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: GRT probes
Scott,
How do you determine which ones are the higher quality?
I only see reference to a standard set of probes on their site.
Thanks,
Bob
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott Schmidt
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: GRT probes
I have now replaced all six probes after 650 hours of flying.
If you have not flown I would return everyone of them and get the higher
quality probe that GRT offers. So far, no problems with them.
-Scott Schmidt
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Bob, Sandy just mentioned that they offered a higher temp option when I called
the first time. And $10
I am not sure why I have had probe problems Tim and you have not. I do have ceramic
coated exhaust that may store more heat inside the system. I also located
my probes as close as the plans discussed to the cylinders (I think that was
2.5").
If I did it again I would probably locate them further down the exhaust, maybe
that would make the difference. The new probes appear to fix the problem as I
have not had one issue with them.
I also have some skin friction heat caused by the speed of my plane that increases
the heat of the exhaust. That is most likely the problem :)
Scott Schmidt
scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
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From: Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com>
Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 4:43:50 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: GRT probes
Scott,
How do you determine which ones are the higher quality?
I only see reference to a standard set of probes on their site.
Thanks,
Bob
From:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott Schmidt
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: GRT probes
I have now replaced all six probes after 650 hours of flying.
If you have not flown I would return everyone of them and get the higher quality
probe that GRT offers. So far, no problems with them.
-Scott Schmidt
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I think mine are 2" or so. When mine do go bad I'll just get 6 new
ones and the good ones then. But for now I'm a happy camper.
I think you're right about the skin friction heat....that's the hot
tunnel reason too. Have you noticed your wing leading edges glow
slightly orange at night too?
Tim
On May 17, 2010, at 8:00 PM, Scott Schmidt <scottmschmidt@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Bob, Sandy just mentioned that they offered a higher temp option
> when I called the first time. And $10
>
> I am not sure why I have had probe problems Tim and you have not. I
> do have ceramic coated exhaust that may store more heat inside the
> system. I also located my probes as close as the plans discussed to
> the cylinders (I think that was 2.5").
> If I did it again I would probably locate them further down the
> exhaust, maybe that would make the difference. The new probes
> appear to fix the problem as I have not had one issue with them.
>
> I also have some skin friction heat caused by the speed of my plane
> that increases the heat of the exhaust. That is most likely the
> problem :)
>
> Scott Schmidt
> scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
>
>
> From: Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 4:43:50 PM
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: GRT probes
>
>
> Scott,
>
> How do you determine which ones are the higher quality?
>
> I only see reference to a standard set of probes on their site.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bob
>
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott Schmidt
> Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 4:35 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: GRT probes
>
> I have now replaced all six probes after 650 hours of flying.
> If you have not flown I would return everyone of them and get the
> higher quality probe that GRT offers. So far, no problems with them.
>
> -Scott Schmidt
>
>
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