RV10-List Digest Archive

Tue 05/18/10


Total Messages Posted: 15



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 06:53 AM - Re: Another RV10 finished (Lenny Iszak)
     2. 07:33 AM - Re: Re: Another RV10 finished (Albert Gardner)
     3. 07:37 AM - Great Lakes RV Gathering (jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com)
     4. 09:01 AM - Re: Great Lakes RV Gathering (rvdave)
     5. 09:25 AM - Re: Re: Another RV10 finished (Robin Marks)
     6. 03:07 PM - Re: Re: Another RV10 finished (Albert Gardner)
     7. 03:25 PM - Re: Re: Another RV10 finished (Robin Marks)
     8. 03:39 PM - Re: Re: Another RV10 finished (DLM)
     9. 03:44 PM - Re: Great Lakes RV Gathering (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
    10. 06:27 PM - Need a frank answer (johngoodman)
    11. 06:28 PM - Re: Great Lakes RV Gathering (Tom Ganster)
    12. 07:24 PM - Re: Great Lakes RV Gathering (bcondrey)
    13. 07:41 PM - Re: Need a frank answer (Pascal)
    14. 07:56 PM - Re: Need a frank answer (Michael Kraus)
    15. 08:06 PM - Re: Need a frank answer (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:53:27 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Another RV10 finished
    From: "Lenny Iszak" <lenard@rapiddecision.com>
    Congratulations Greg, that's awesome news! Can't wait to see your plane at OSH. Bring lots of plexi cleaner to wipe off the noseprints... :) Lenny greghale wrote: > N210KH has a brand new airworthiness certificate and ready to fly. Just waiting for the rain and storms in Oklahoma to stop. 40hours to go then Oshkosh. > > Greg Hale Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298060#298060


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    Time: 07:33:06 AM PST US
    From: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@roadrunner.com>
    Subject: Re: Another RV10 finished
    Congratulations Greg. BTW, does anyone know how many flying '10s Greg's make? Albert Gardner N991RV Yuma, AZ Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lenny Iszak Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 6:52 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Another RV10 finished Congratulations Greg, that's awesome news! Can't wait to see your plane at OSH. Bring lots of plexi cleaner to wipe off the noseprints... :) Lenny greghale wrote: > N210KH has a brand new airworthiness certificate and ready to fly. Just waiting for the rain and storms in Oklahoma to stop. 40hours to go then Oshkosh. > > Greg Hale Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298060#298060


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    Time: 07:37:46 AM PST US
    Subject: Great Lakes RV Gathering
    From: jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com
    For the last two years the four partners in N44YH have hosted a gathering of RV-10 builders for lunch at our hangar. We will be doing the same event this year, however since this is the third annual event Tony decided it was time for a name "Great Lakes RV Gathering". This is an informal gathering geared around meeting other builders and sharing tales of RV's. Lunch is on us, so if you are available please fell free to stop in, all RV builders welcome. No sales pitch or strings attached, just a chance to get together with other builders and share ideas, and stories. Time: 10:00, lunch at 12:00, break up after lunch (last year it ended around 3) Where: KSBM (Sheboygan County Memorial Airport) - Sheboygan Falls, WI Who: Family and friends welcome If you plan to attend please let me know so we can have enough to eat. Thanks, Jason Kreidler 4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI Wayne Elsner, Kyle Hokel, Tony Kolar, Jason Kreidler N44YH - #40617 - Flying


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    Time: 09:01:02 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Great Lakes RV Gathering
    From: "rvdave" <davidbf@centurytel.net>
    You can put me down for two, thanks. -------- Dave Ford RV6 flying RV10 building Cadillac, MI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298076#298076


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    Time: 09:25:28 AM PST US
    From: Robin Marks <robin@PaintTheWeb.com>
    Subject: Re: Another RV10 finished
    Snip< does anyone know how many flying '10s Greg's make?> Unless Greg veered way off of the plans I believe the answer is One. Robin Do Not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Albert Gardner Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 7:30 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Another RV10 finished Congratulations Greg. BTW, does anyone know how many flying '10s Greg's make? Albert Gardner N991RV Yuma, AZ Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lenny Iszak Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 6:52 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Another RV10 finished Congratulations Greg, that's awesome news! Can't wait to see your plane at OSH. Bring lots of plexi cleaner to wipe off the noseprints... :) Lenny greghale wrote: > N210KH has a brand new airworthiness certificate and ready to fly. Just waiting for the rain and storms in Oklahoma to stop. 40hours to go then Oshkosh. > > Greg Hale Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298060#298060


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    Time: 03:07:38 PM PST US
    From: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@roadrunner.com>
    Subject: Re: Another RV10 finished
    Ho, ho, ho. I were thunking of how many total from all builders. Albert -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 9:25 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Another RV10 finished Snip< does anyone know how many flying '10s Greg's make?> Unless Greg veered way off of the plans I believe the answer is One. Robin Do Not Archive


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    Time: 03:25:04 PM PST US
    From: Robin Marks <robin@PaintTheWeb.com>
    Subject: Re: Another RV10 finished
    Vans states 289. I doubt there is an absolutely accurate number so might as well use 300 as a general number. Sent from my iPad Wahoo! On May 18, 2010, at 3:06 PM, Albert Gardner <ibspud@roadrunner.com> wrote: > > Ho, ho, ho. I were thunking of how many total from all builders. > Albert > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks > Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 9:25 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Another RV10 finished > > > Snip< does anyone know how many flying '10s Greg's make?> > > Unless Greg veered way off of the plans I believe the answer is One. > > Robin > Do Not Archive > >


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    Time: 03:39:34 PM PST US
    From: "DLM" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Another RV10 finished
    I assume that counts my DC10. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin Marks" <robin@PaintTheWeb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 3:25 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Another RV10 finished > > Vans states 289. I doubt there is an absolutely accurate number so > might as well use 300 as a general number. > > Sent from my iPad > Wahoo! > > On May 18, 2010, at 3:06 PM, Albert Gardner <ibspud@roadrunner.com> wrote: > >> >> Ho, ho, ho. I were thunking of how many total from all builders. >> Albert >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks >> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 9:25 AM >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Another RV10 finished >> >> >> Snip< does anyone know how many flying '10s Greg's make?> >> >> Unless Greg veered way off of the plans I believe the answer is One. >> >> Robin >> Do Not Archive >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 03:44:20 PM PST US
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    Subject: Great Lakes RV Gathering
    Wish I could make it this year but that also coincides with some other st uff that's been on the calendar for a few weeks now. Hopefully next year. Michael From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m atronics.com] On Behalf Of jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 9:40 AM Subject: RV10-List: Great Lakes RV Gathering For the last two years the four partners in N44YH have hosted a gathering o f RV-10 builders for lunch at our hangar. We will be doing the same event this year, however since this is the third annual event Tony decided it was time for a name "Great Lakes RV Gathering". This is an informal gathering geared around meeting other builders and sharing tales of RV's. Lunch is on us, so if you are available please fell free to stop in, all RV builders welcome. No sales pitch or strings attached, just a chance to get together with othe r builders and share ideas, and stories. Time: 10:00, lunch at 12:00, break up after lunch (last year it ended aroun d 3) Where: KSBM (Sheboygan County Memorial Airport) - Sheboygan Falls, WI Who: Family and friends welcome If you plan to attend please let me know so we can have enough to eat. Thanks, Jason Kreidler 4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI Wayne Elsner, Kyle Hokel, Tony Kolar, Jason Kreidler N44YH - #40617 - Flying


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    Time: 06:27:01 PM PST US
    Subject: Need a frank answer
    From: "johngoodman" <johngoodman@earthlink.net>
    Installing my panel the other day, I discovered that the maximum sized hole you can cut in the sub-panel for the radio rack (according to page 41-4) is insufficient for four typical radio rack components. Yet, I have seen many panels on display that have been able to accomplish this feat. Before I go back to the drawing board, I need an honest answer from somebody on how this can be accomplished - without compromising the structural integrity required on 41-4. Here's the situation: PS 9000X, 430W, SL-40, GTX-330. They all stick through the sub-panel (the PS doesn't, but try putting a connector on the back with a turn radius). The real issue is the bottom inch or so of the sub-panel has to be cut for the GTX-330 to fit, unless you move the entire stack to the absolute top of the panel, which brings up other unwanted issues. Cutting that bottom inch is unthinkable, but it's obvious some of you have found a way around this. What is it? I had a friend suggest a "C" channel all the way across the bottom of the sub-panel flange, where only the tiny flange is still intact. Assuming this is good engineering, has it been done? I realize some folks will want to hedge on this, but I'd appreciate any "hear-say" that you might have heard.... Respectfully, John -------- #40572 QB. Working on Cowling &amp; Panel N711JG reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298130#298130


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    Time: 06:28:08 PM PST US
    From: "Tom Ganster" <taganster@gmail.com>
    Subject: Great Lakes RV Gathering
    Jason, Please plan on my wife and myself attending. I enjoyed last years get together. Tom and Dawn Ganster 40778 Finish kit do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jason.kreidler@regalbeloit.com Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 9:40 AM Subject: RV10-List: Great Lakes RV Gathering For the last two years the four partners in N44YH have hosted a gathering of RV-10 builders for lunch at our hangar. We will be doing the same event this year, however since this is the third annual event Tony decided it was time for a name "Great Lakes RV Gathering". This is an informal gathering geared around meeting other builders and sharing tales of RV's. Lunch is on us, so if you are available please fell free to stop in, all RV builders welcome. No sales pitch or strings attached, just a chance to get together with other builders and share ideas, and stories. Time: 10:00, lunch at 12:00, break up after lunch (last year it ended around 3) Where: KSBM (Sheboygan County Memorial Airport) - Sheboygan Falls, WI Who: Family and friends welcome If you plan to attend please let me know so we can have enough to eat. Thanks, Jason Kreidler 4 Partner Build - Sheboygan Falls, WI Wayne Elsner, Kyle Hokel, Tony Kolar, Jason Kreidler N44YH - #40617 - Flying Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 01:26:00


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    Time: 07:24:23 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Great Lakes RV Gathering
    From: "bcondrey" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
    Jason, Count me as a maybe - I'll try to make it but there's a possibility that some things at work will preclude my attendance... Bob Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298139#298139


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    Time: 07:41:02 PM PST US
    From: "Pascal" <rv10builder@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Need a frank answer
    Tim did this, check out his site and the panel section great pictures to show how he did it. Pascal -------------------------------------------------- From: "johngoodman" <johngoodman@earthlink.net> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 6:25 PM Subject: RV10-List: Need a frank answer > > Installing my panel the other day, I discovered that the maximum sized > hole you can cut in the sub-panel for the radio rack (according to page > 41-4) is insufficient for four typical radio rack components. Yet, I have > seen many panels on display that have been able to accomplish this feat. > Before I go back to the drawing board, I need an honest answer from > somebody on how this can be accomplished - without compromising the > structural integrity required on 41-4. > > Here's the situation: PS 9000X, 430W, SL-40, GTX-330. They all stick > through the sub-panel (the PS doesn't, but try putting a connector on the > back with a turn radius). The real issue is the bottom inch or so of the > sub-panel has to be cut for the GTX-330 to fit, unless you move the entire > stack to the absolute top of the panel, which brings up other unwanted > issues. > Cutting that bottom inch is unthinkable, but it's obvious some of you have > found a way around this. What is it? I had a friend suggest a "C" channel > all the way across the bottom of the sub-panel flange, where only the tiny > flange is still intact. Assuming this is good engineering, has it been > done? > > I realize some folks will want to hedge on this, but I'd appreciate any > "hear-say" that you might have heard.... > > Respectfully, > John > > -------- > #40572 QB. Working on Cowling &amp; Panel > N711JG reserved > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298130#298130 > > >


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    Time: 07:56:07 PM PST US
    From: Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
    Subject: Re: Need a frank answer
    I put on a .020 doubler angle on the front, and an .063 extruded AL piece on the back all the way across the width of the sub panel. The front angle ties to the vertical bulkheads, the rear butts next to them. No real engineering analysis done, but it worked in my buddies -10 for 300+ hours and I'm doing the same. This really stiffens up this area. YMMV -Mike This view is aft of the sub panel looking foreward and down This view is fore of the sub panel looking back. Sent from my iPhone On May 18, 2010, at 9:25 PM, "johngoodman" <johngoodman@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > Installing my panel the other day, I discovered that the maximum > sized hole you can cut in the sub-panel for the radio rack > (according to page 41-4) is insufficient for four typical radio rack > components. Yet, I have seen many panels on display that have been > able to accomplish this feat. > Before I go back to the drawing board, I need an honest answer from > somebody on how this can be accomplished - without compromising the > structural integrity required on 41-4. > > Here's the situation: PS 9000X, 430W, SL-40, GTX-330. They all stick > through the sub-panel (the PS doesn't, but try putting a connector > on the back with a turn radius). The real issue is the bottom inch > or so of the sub-panel has to be cut for the GTX-330 to fit, unless > you move the entire stack to the absolute top of the panel, which > brings up other unwanted issues. > Cutting that bottom inch is unthinkable, but it's obvious some of > you have found a way around this. What is it? I had a friend suggest > a "C" channel all the way across the bottom of the sub-panel flange, > where only the tiny flange is still intact. Assuming this is good > engineering, has it been done? > > I realize some folks will want to hedge on this, but I'd appreciate > any "hear-say" that you might have heard.... > > Respectfully, > John > > -------- > #40572 QB. Working on Cowling &amp; Panel > N711JG reserved > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298130#298130 > > <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre></body></html>


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    Time: 08:06:56 PM PST US
    From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
    Subject: Need a frank answer
    Maybe the new versions of the manual are different than mine (original rev 0), the only guidance is that you need to reinforce with 3/4" .063 angle. According to some info I had collected before doing mine, the total stack height you're looking at is 6.88" (I've got the same stack height). The angle technique is actually described on page 41-3 on my revision. Bob RV-10 N442PM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of johngoodman Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 8:26 PM Subject: RV10-List: Need a frank answer Installing my panel the other day, I discovered that the maximum sized hole you can cut in the sub-panel for the radio rack (according to page 41-4) is insufficient for four typical radio rack components. Yet, I have seen many panels on display that have been able to accomplish this feat. Before I go back to the drawing board, I need an honest answer from somebody on how this can be accomplished - without compromising the structural integrity required on 41-4. Here's the situation: PS 9000X, 430W, SL-40, GTX-330. They all stick through the sub-panel (the PS doesn't, but try putting a connector on the back with a turn radius). The real issue is the bottom inch or so of the sub-panel has to be cut for the GTX-330 to fit, unless you move the entire stack to the absolute top of the panel, which brings up other unwanted issues. Cutting that bottom inch is unthinkable, but it's obvious some of you have found a way around this. What is it? I had a friend suggest a "C" channel all the way across the bottom of the sub-panel flange, where only the tiny flange is still intact. Assuming this is good engineering, has it been done? I realize some folks will want to hedge on this, but I'd appreciate any "hear-say" that you might have heard.... Respectfully, John -------- #40572 QB. Working on Cowling &amp; Panel N711JG reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298130#298130




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