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1. 07:01 AM - Re: EGT probes (DLM)
2. 07:31 AM - FS: LE1600 tablet with SSD (Tim Olson)
3. 09:25 AM - Re: EGT probes (Marcus Cooper)
4. 06:19 PM - Re: Contact for Loehle products (johngoodman)
5. 06:28 PM - Seat belt sources and finishing of hardpoint (Bill Mauledriver Watson)
6. 06:30 PM - Re: Need a frank answer (johngoodman)
7. 06:33 PM - Fw: RV-List: AEIO-540 Parallel Valve Engine For Sale (Kelly McMullen)
8. 06:54 PM - Re: Re: Contact for Loehle products (Miller John)
9. 07:06 PM - Re: Re: Contact for Loehle products (Kevin Belue)
10. 07:10 PM - Re: Re: Contact for Loehle products (Miller John)
11. 07:16 PM - Re: Contact for Loehle products (johngoodman)
12. 07:55 PM - Re: Seat belt sources and finishing of hardpoint (Jim Berry)
13. 08:07 PM - Re: Re: Contact for Loehle products (Rick)
14. 08:07 PM - Re: Seat belt sources and finishing of hardpoint (Lew Gallagher)
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I talked to Sandy and the very low reading indicates it is open and
reading the temp of the internal EIS. My number two was like that and
when removed was burn off to 3/8" I sent the list a picture recently. I
am going to buy a set of EI quick response probes. I have been assured
that they will work in place of the GRT probes (we will see). Got a good
quote.
----- Original Message -----
From: Marcus Cooper
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 3:56 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: EGT probes
It's probably been covered, but what where your indications of a probe
failure? I've got one on the fritz reading a constant very low temp but
I don't know if it's the wiring or the probe gone bad. I also have the
GRT setup and 450 hours TT.
Thanks,
Marcus
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DLM
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 5:50 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: EGT probes
Any suggestions for long life EGT probes? I have 278 TT on my RV10 and
have replaced 3 EGT probes from GRT. Failures have been on 6 then 4 (or
2) then 1. #2 failed this morning. Some are the original GRT EIS probes
and some are their allegedly long life probes. I lost the third one on a
trip to IL and GRT FEDEXed two "long life" probes to IL. I changed #1
and kept the spare. This morning on a local training flight, #2 failed
(again?). Probes are located 2 inches below the exhaust port (specs call
2-6"). EGTs normally see high 1300 /low 1400 in cruise. takeoff and
climb EGTs are 1200-1350. At altitude the LOP operation usually provided
CHTs (275-325) and EGTs (1360-1410). GEM probes on a previous aircraft
(TC177RG) were rated for 1650 F red line and since my normal operation
was about EGTs at 1400. I replaced two probes in 29 years of ownership
and 2500 hours. I have now replaced 4 GRT probes in 278 hours. I am
considering a completely new set of Alcor or GEM probes
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| Subject: | FS: LE1600 tablet with SSD |
Before I go to eBay with this, I thought I'd offer it
here:
I have a couple of LE1600 tablets that I run Voyager on.
I bought one and then when we were flying the Cherokee I bought
a 2nd instead of buying a handheld GPS. I figured it gave way
more function for the money.
But now I don't lease the Cherokee anymore, and since I
have both an LE1600 and an iPad, I don't need the 2nd
LE1600.
The tablet has a 32GB Solid State hard drive in it, and
it's been used very little since I installed the drive.
It should work very well for in-airplane use. it also
would come with a bump case installed.
$820 shipped if you want it...otherwise I'll try other
forums quick before putting it on eBay.
--
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Thanks, great info. Any chance you can pass on the quote you got from EI?
Thanks again,
Marcus
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DLM
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: EGT probes
I talked to Sandy and the very low reading indicates it is open and reading
the temp of the internal EIS. My number two was like that and when removed
was burn off to 3/8" I sent the list a picture recently. I am going to buy a
set of EI quick response probes. I have been assured that they will work in
place of the GRT probes (we will see). Got a good quote.
----- Original Message -----
From: Marcus Cooper <mailto:coop85@verizon.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 3:56 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: EGT probes
It's probably been covered, but what where your indications of a probe
failure? I've got one on the fritz reading a constant very low temp but I
don't know if it's the wiring or the probe gone bad. I also have the GRT
setup and 450 hours TT.
Thanks,
Marcus
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DLM
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 5:50 PM
Subject: RV10-List: EGT probes
Any suggestions for long life EGT probes? I have 278 TT on my RV10 and have
replaced 3 EGT probes from GRT. Failures have been on 6 then 4 (or 2) then
1. #2 failed this morning. Some are the original GRT EIS probes and some are
their allegedly long life probes. I lost the third one on a trip to IL and
GRT FEDEXed two "long life" probes to IL. I changed #1 and kept the spare.
This morning on a local training flight, #2 failed (again?). Probes are
located 2 inches below the exhaust port (specs call 2-6"). EGTs normally see
high 1300 /low 1400 in cruise. takeoff and climb EGTs are 1200-1350. At
altitude the LOP operation usually provided CHTs (275-325) and EGTs
(1360-1410). GEM probes on a previous aircraft (TC177RG) were rated for
1650 F red line and since my normal operation was about EGTs at 1400. I
replaced two probes in 29 years of ownership and 2500 hours. I have now
replaced 4 GRT probes in 278 hours. I am considering a completely new set of
Alcor or GEM probes
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| Subject: | Re: Contact for Loehle products |
Bill,
I tried for two months with no results. I do know that the principal owner died
and that it was a family owned/operated business. I finally gave up under the
assumption that the business is apparently falling apart.
John
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#40572 QB. Working on Cowling & Panel
N711JG reserved
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| Subject: | Seat belt sources and finishing of hardpoint |
I have replicated the front seat hardpoints in the rear so all 4
shoulder belts will attach to the canopy top with single NAS 517-5-9 bolts.
(I did not do the AMSAFE installation required for their inertial
reels. I did dig out the hole from the inside, scarfed the outer
surface and built up the hardpoint with layers of cloth and filled rest
of thickness with flox)
Question 1: I have a nice tan/brown Flightline interior and would like
to matching belts - any suggestions on sources? The Vans belts would be
fine if available in the right color.
Question 2: I want to glass the bolts into place but I'm worried if I
do that, will mounting the seatbelt fracture the glass? Or is the bolt
being left flush and uncovered? What have others done? How has it worked?
Thanks.
Bill "Jumping around from fiberglass task to FG task trying to figure
out how to get to paint" Watson
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| Subject: | Re: Need a frank answer |
I want to thank everyone for the responses and private messages. I think that I've
got a way out, because of the wording on 41-3. It actually says you can skip
the lower horizontal angle if you cut below 3/4" of remaining metal; I was
assuming that the 3/4" was sacrosanct. It sounds nuts - and I plan on talking
with Vans about it - but I'm now guessing that my friend's idea of an angle or
"c" channel the length of the very bottom flange would do the trick.
If Vans says differently, I'll let everyone know. Again, thanks for the replies.
John
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N711JG reserved
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| Subject: | Fwd: RV-List: AEIO-540 Parallel Valve Engine For Sale |
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RV-List: AEIO-540 Parallel Valve Engine For Sale
From: Tom Gummo <t.gummo@verizon.net>
<rv-list@matronics.com>
Anybody follow the Red Bull Air Races the last couple of years, Mike
Mangold has his spare engine from his race days for sale.
5 hours since Performance Engines rebuild. 320 HP, 10:1 machined ECI
pistons and cylinders Narrow deck. Lots of extras.
I am not on the RV-10 list, so would someone please let them know that
this engine is available.
He was asking 38,000 but has dropped to 36,000 USD. (Claims to have
over 45,000 in the engine)
If there is any interest, I can copy and sent a PDF of the description
of all the engine components and the contact info for Mike.
The engine is "preserved" and has a large wooden crate for shipping and
is located at Apple Valley (APV), CA.
Tom "GummiBear" Gummo
Harmon Rocket II N561FS 375 hours and still smiling
Air Boss for the Sept 25, 2010 Apple Valley Air Show
*
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| Subject: | Re: Contact for Loehle products |
Not true.
Mike's dad passed away, but Mike and Sandy are working hard.
Mike painted my bird 2 years ago and did an outstanding job.
grumpy
N184JM
On May 19, 2010, at 8:18 PM, johngoodman wrote:
> >
>
> Bill,
> I tried for two months with no results. I do know that the principal
> owner died and that it was a family owned/operated business. I
> finally gave up under the assumption that the business is apparently
> falling apart.
> John
>
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> #40572 QB. Working on Cowling & Panel
> N711JG reserved
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298244#298244
>
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| Subject: | Re: Contact for Loehle products |
About how much does he charge to paint an RV10?
Sent from my iPhone
On May 19, 2010, at 8:54 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Not true.
>
> Mike's dad passed away, but Mike and Sandy are working hard.
>
> Mike painted my bird 2 years ago and did an outstanding job.
>
> grumpy
> N184JM
>
> On May 19, 2010, at 8:18 PM, johngoodman wrote:
>
>> >
>>
>> Bill,
>> I tried for two months with no results. I do know that the
>> principal owner died and that it was a family owned/operated
>> business. I finally gave up under the assumption that the business
>> is apparently falling apart.
>> John
>>
>> --------
>> #40572 QB. Working on Cowling & Panel
>> N711JG reserved
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298244#298244
>>
>>
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>>
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| Subject: | Re: Contact for Loehle products |
Varies depending on how much prep work he has to do.
On May 19, 2010, at 9:02 PM, Kevin Belue wrote:
>
> About how much does he charge to paint an RV10?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 19, 2010, at 8:54 PM, Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Not true.
>>
>> Mike's dad passed away, but Mike and Sandy are working hard.
>>
>> Mike painted my bird 2 years ago and did an outstanding job.
>>
>> grumpy
>> N184JM
>>
>> On May 19, 2010, at 8:18 PM, johngoodman wrote:
>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> Bill,
>>> I tried for two months with no results. I do know that the
>>> principal owner died and that it was a family owned/operated
>>> business. I finally gave up under the assumption that the business
>>> is apparently falling apart.
>>> John
>>>
>>> --------
>>> #40572 QB. Working on Cowling & Panel
>>> N711JG reserved
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298244#298244
>>>
>>>
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| Subject: | Re: Contact for Loehle products |
Grumpy,
I apologize if I have made a false statement. I was merely responding to Bill that
I had the same experience he has had, and gave my assumption that prompted
me to quit calling.
John
> Not true.
>
> Mike's dad passed away, but Mike and Sandy are working hard.
>
> Mike painted my bird 2 years ago and did an outstanding job.
>
> grumpy
> N184JM
--------
#40572 QB. Working on Cowling & Panel
N711JG reserved
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298256#298256
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| Subject: | Re: Seat belt sources and finishing of hardpoint |
Bill,
I have the same interior from Flightline. The Hooker belts are a very close color
match. Can't help you with question 2.
Jim Berry
40482
N15JB
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| Subject: | Re: Contact for Loehle products |
I used thier paint on my RV with mixed results. Loved the wonderfil
and primer, the paint was very hard to control the orange peel but we
kept it to a minimum by careful ratios of thinner. That said the paint
buffs and colors sands like a champ. Mike's dad passed away in the
middle of my paint project but I was always able to get his wife on
the phone to order more supplies. They were good to deal with and I
can't fault them on my experience. FWIW wonderfil is an Akzo Noble
product packaged by Loehle. I used both and if they aren't the same
stuff then sue me. If I had to do it again (I'm planning to) I would
use a Dupont base/clear system, much more tolerant to temps. Flamers
back off, I have lots of time behind a spray gun to make that call.
The reason I went with Loehle was it's was single stage poly and I
know what a bitch it is to touch up basecoat/clearcoat.
Rick Sked
N246RS
Sent from my iPhone
On May 19, 2010, at 7:16 PM, "johngoodman" <johngoodman@earthlink.net>
wrote:
> >
>
> Grumpy,
> I apologize if I have made a false statement. I was merely
> responding to Bill that I had the same experience he has had, and
> gave my assumption that prompted me to quit calling.
> John
>
>
>> Not true.
>>
>> Mike's dad passed away, but Mike and Sandy are working hard.
>>
>> Mike painted my bird 2 years ago and did an outstanding job.
>>
>> grumpy
>> N184JM
>
>
> --------
> #40572 QB. Working on Cowling & Panel
> N711JG reserved
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298256#298256
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Seat belt sources and finishing of hardpoint |
Hey Bill,
Question #2. I cut a slot in the head, imbeded a pop rivet stem in it to
keep it from turning, and glassed it over -- got the idea here -- and it is
still invisible from the outside, no cracks. And I can't imagine needing to
access it unless something really bad happened.
Wes has finished his fly-off time and is REALLY turning up the heat to get
me to fly with him. Maybe if you came down and flew with him, I'd get a
break! :-)
Later, - Lew
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