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1. 05:39 AM - Mag Gasket tear (gary)
2. 05:59 AM - Re: Mag Gasket tear (Carl Froehlich)
3. 07:45 AM - Re: Mag Gasket tear (Lew Gallagher)
4. 08:32 AM - Re: Mag Gasket tear (Kevin Belue)
5. 08:33 AM - Re: Mag Gasket tear (Kevin Belue)
6. 08:55 AM - Re: Mag Gasket tear (Kelly McMullen)
7. 09:36 AM - Re: Mag Gasket tear (Kevin Belue)
8. 10:11 AM - Re: iPad adapters (Fred Williams, M.D.)
9. 10:57 AM - Re: iPad adapters (Tim Olson)
10. 11:22 AM - Re: TT Hours? (Jim Combs)
11. 11:37 AM - Re: TT Hours? (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
12. 11:48 AM - Re: Cowl/engine interference? (Dave Saylor)
13. 11:52 AM - TT hours (Sheldon Olesen)
14. 12:01 PM - Re: TT Hours? (Tim Olson)
15. 12:25 PM - Re: TT Hours? (Don McDonald)
16. 12:53 PM - Re: TT Hours? (Jeff Carpenter)
17. 12:55 PM - Re: TT Hours? (John Cox)
18. 01:58 PM - Re: TT Hours? (Ben Westfall)
19. 02:05 PM - Front tire make (Tim Olson)
20. 02:34 PM - Re: Front tire make (Rob Kochman)
21. 02:38 PM - Re: Cowl/engine interference? (Rob Kochman)
22. 02:38 PM - Re: Front tire make (Seano)
23. 04:07 PM - step drills etc (Rick and Sandra Lark)
24. 04:19 PM - Re: step drills etc ()
25. 04:55 PM - Trim Cable Attach Bracket (Sean Stephens)
26. 05:03 PM - Re: Trim Cable Attach Bracket (David Maib)
27. 05:07 PM - Re: Trim Cable Attach Bracket (Perry, Phil)
28. 05:14 PM - Re: Trim Cable Attach Bracket (Sean Stephens)
29. 05:36 PM - Re: step drills etc (Carl Froehlich)
30. 05:43 PM - Re: Front tire make (Tim Olson)
31. 06:58 PM - Re: step drills etc (rv10flyer)
32. 07:20 PM - Re: step drills etc (Rick and Sandra Lark)
33. 07:40 PM - Re: Front tire make (Tim Olson)
34. 07:57 PM - Re: step drills etc (Rick and Sandra Lark)
35. 08:03 PM - Re: Front tire make (Rick)
36. 08:09 PM - Re: Front tire make (Seano)
37. 08:23 PM - Re: Front tire make (Tim Olson)
38. 08:25 PM - Re: step drills etc (Tim Olson)
39. 08:25 PM - Re: step drills etc (Kelly McMullen)
40. 08:29 PM - Re: Front tire make (Kelly McMullen)
41. 08:36 PM - Re: step drills etc (Bill Mauledriver Watson)
42. 09:09 PM - Re: Front tire make (Tim Olson)
43. 09:09 PM - Re: step drills etc (Rick)
44. 09:31 PM - Re: step drills etc (Bill Mauledriver Watson)
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| Subject: | Re: Cowl/engine interference? |
Rob,
I remember lowering the spider for the same reason. I think I just turned
the bracket over and trimmed as necessary. Lots of room now.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just did the cowl fitting this weekend, and it looks like I have an
> interference issue with the mixture arm (Silver Hawk FI system) and cowl.
> Anyone else have this problem? I have only about 1/4" clearance, which
> doesn't seem like enough. I've heard of interference issues with the FAB,
> but not cowl.
>
> I also have a problem with the fuel line for the #2 cylinder being only
> 1/8-1/4" from the top cowl--will be calling Aero Sport about that tomorrow.
>
> -Rob
>
> --
> Rob Kochman
> RV-10 "Finishing" Kit
> Woodinville, WA (near Seattle)
> http://kochman.net/N819K
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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N475PV-- 161 hours
Sheldon Olesen
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Just over 625 for N104CD. I think Scott's around 650 on N104XP if
I remember his last post on it recently.
Tim
Jesse Saint wrote:
> Speaking of hours, how many hours are people up to? Tim? Scott?
> Randy? We're at around 850 on N256H.
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com <mailto:jesse@saintaviation.com>
> Cell: 352-427-0285
> Fax: 815-377-3694
>
> On May 23, 2010, at 6:32 PM, John Cox wrote:
>
>> There were a lot fewer than 1000 hours on N220RV and a lot of history
>> that went with the creation of the SB. Just glad no one else found
>> any. John #40600
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Sent from my Palm Pre
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> On May 23, 2010 12:28 PM, DLM <dlm34077@cox.net
>> <mailto:dlm34077@cox.net>> wrote:
>>
>> While giving a biannual to a friend in the 10 this morning, we were
>> stalling the aircraft. At times we got slow enough to get the prestall
>> buffet. When I looked back at the right hoizontal stab and elevator, I
>> could see a lot of movement. Considering that the IO360 RV10 (220RV?)
>> had 1000+ hours of landings and stalls in training, this may be a
>> reason for the cracks forming. We inspect each annual and have found
>> no cracks or even wrinkles.
>>
>> We also found that the aircraft becomes slightly unstable near the
>> stall prior to the buffet and a slight sink rate developes, therefore
>> we plan to use this to avoid the pre stall buffet and subsequent
>> shaking of the tail.
>>
>> Stall occurred at 53 KIAS with half flaps and 2400#
>
> *
>
>
> *
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Robin and group, looks like it's Texas or bust.... start loading the-2nd
trailer Wednesday, should be in Texas by Tuesday.- One less California ta
xpayer.- The deficit increases to 19,000,003,000... sorry to those remain
ing.
N414DM - 148 wonderful hours since first flight-June 9th, 2009.
Don McDonald
--- On Sun, 5/23/10, Robin Marks <Robin@PaintTheWeb.com> wrote:
From: Robin Marks <Robin@PaintTheWeb.com>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: TT Hours?
Robin 150 Terrific hours
N110EE Down for Alt upgrade to 70A & fixing small exhaust issue.
Been flying my TurboLance II. Good plane but not the same thing as an RV.
-
Robin
-
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 5:30 PM
Subject: RV10-List: TT Hours?
-
Speaking of hours, how many hours are people up to? -Tim? -Scott? -Ra
ndy? -We're at around 850 on N256H.
-
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
-
On May 23, 2010, at 6:32 PM, John Cox wrote:
There were a lot fewer than 1000 hours on N220RV and a lot of history that
went with the creation of the SB. -Just glad no one else found any. -Jo
hn #40600
-- Sent from my Palm Pre
On May 23, 2010 12:28 PM, DLM <dlm34077@cox.net> wrote:
While giving a biannual to a friend in the 10 this morning, we were stallin
g the aircraft. At times we got slow enough to get the prestall buffet. Whe
n I looked back at the right hoizontal stab and elevator, I could see a lot
of movement. Considering that the IO360 RV10 (220RV?) had 1000+ hours of l
andings and stalls in training, this may be a reason for the cracks forming
. We inspect each annual and have found no cracks or even wrinkles.
We also found that the aircraft becomes slightly unstable near the stall pr
ior to the buffet and a slight sink rate developes, therefore we plan to us
e this to avoid the pre stall buffet and subsequent shaking of the tail.
Stall occurred at 53 KIAS with half flaps and 2400#
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apology not accepted
Jeff Carpenter
40304
Do Not Archive
On May 24, 2010, at 12:15 PM, Don McDonald wrote:
> Robin and group, looks like it's Texas or bust.... start loading the
> 2nd trailer Wednesday, should be in Texas by Tuesday. One less
> California taxpayer. The deficit increases to 19,000,003,000...
> sorry to those remaining.
> N414DM - 148 wonderful hours since first flight June 9th, 2009.
> Don McDonald
>
> --- On Sun, 5/23/10, Robin Marks <Robin@PaintTheWeb.com> wrote:
>
> From: Robin Marks <Robin@PaintTheWeb.com>
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: TT Hours?
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 6:22 PM
>
> Robin 150 Terrific hours
>
> N110EE Down for Alt upgrade to 70A & fixing small exhaust issue.
>
> Been flying my TurboLance II. Good plane but not the same thing as
> an RV.
>
>
> Robin<image001.jpg>
>
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> ] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
> Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 5:30 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: TT Hours?
>
>
> Speaking of hours, how many hours are people up to? Tim? Scott?
> Randy? We're at around 850 on N256H.
>
>
> Jesse Saint
>
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
>
> jesse@saintaviation.com
>
> Cell: 352-427-0285
>
> Fax: 815-377-3694
>
>
> On May 23, 2010, at 6:32 PM, John Cox wrote:
>
>
> There were a lot fewer than 1000 hours on N220RV and a lot of
> history that went with the creation of the SB. Just glad no one
> else found any. John #40600
>
>
> -- Sent from my Palm Pre
>
>
> On May 23, 2010 12:28 PM, DLM <dlm34077@cox.net> wrote:
>
> While giving a biannual to a friend in the 10 this morning, we were
> stalling the aircraft. At times we got slow enough to get the
> prestall buffet. When I looked back at the right hoizontal stab and
> elevator, I could see a lot of movement. Considering that the IO360
> RV10 (220RV?) had 1000+ hours of landings and stalls in training,
> this may be a reason for the cracks forming. We inspect each annual
> and have found no cracks or even wrinkles.
>
> We also found that the aircraft becomes slightly unstable near the
> stall prior to the buffet and a slight sink rate developes,
> therefore we plan to use this to avoid the pre stall buffet and
> subsequent shaking of the tail.
>
> Stall occurred at 53 KIAS with half flaps and 2400#
>
>
> = Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse
> Day Browse, Chat, FAQ,
> w.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV1
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> m">http://forums.matronics.com
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
> ======================
>
>
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Don, your one of the more intelligent ones. Oregon is flooded with
Californian's who migrated. My parent's packed us up for the pilgrimage
in 1957. In 1973, then Governor McCall coined the phrase "Don't
Californicate Oregon".
It did not work.
Two of my buddies from the Coldwell Banker Commercial office in Seattle
posted a Billboard along I-5 near Boeing Field in 1972 that read "Would
the last one leaving Seattle, turn out the lights". The former mayor of
LA says today that the city will be bankrupt by 2014 and need federal
taxpayer assistance to pay the outflows of wages, benefits and giveaways
to the needy too stubborn to leave.
When you build a mile of road you can drive for just a mile. When you
build a mile of runway, you can fly your RV-10 Anywhere.
John
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don McDonald
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 12:15 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: TT Hours?
Robin and group, looks like it's Texas or bust.... start loading the 2nd
trailer Wednesday, should be in Texas by Tuesday. One less California
taxpayer. The deficit increases to 19,000,003,000... sorry to those
remaining.
N414DM - 148 wonderful hours since first flight June 9th, 2009.
Don McDonald
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Day Browse, Chat, FAQ,
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RV1
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John I=92d like to challenge that=85
A =BC to =BD mi ought to be enough :-).
-Ben
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Cox
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 12:54 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: TT Hours?
Don, your one of the more intelligent ones. Oregon is flooded with
Californian's who migrated. My parent's packed us up for the pilgrimage
in
1957. In 1973, then Governor McCall coined the phrase "Don't
Californicate
Oregon".
It did not work.
Two of my buddies from the Coldwell Banker Commercial office in Seattle
posted a Billboard along I-5 near Boeing Field in 1972 that read "Would
the
last one leaving Seattle, turn out the lights". The former mayor of LA
says
today that the city will be bankrupt by 2014 and need federal taxpayer
assistance to pay the outflows of wages, benefits and giveaways to the
needy
too stubborn to leave.
When you build a mile of road you can drive for just a mile. When you
build
a mile of runway, you can fly your RV-10 Anywhere.
John
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don McDonald
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 12:15 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: TT Hours?
Robin and group, looks like it's Texas or bust.... start loading the 2nd
trailer Wednesday, should be in Texas by Tuesday. One less California
taxpayer. The deficit increases to 19,000,003,000... sorry to those
remaining.
N414DM - 148 wonderful hours since first flight June 9th, 2009.
Don McDonald
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V1
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Does anyone remember what front tire make came with
the kit? I've been happy with the Desser HP retreads
on the mains, and my nose tire is going strong, but I
want to buy a spare. I figure since it's worked good
so far I may just buy the same thing again.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Front tire make |
My kit came with "Aero Classic" tires, both nose and mains.
-Rob
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>
> Does anyone remember what front tire make came with
> the kit? I've been happy with the Desser HP retreads
> on the mains, and my nose tire is going strong, but I
> want to buy a spare. I figure since it's worked good
> so far I may just buy the same thing again.
>
> --
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
>
>
--
Rob Kochman
RV-10 "Finishing" Kit
Woodinville, WA (near Seattle)
http://kochman.net/N819K
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| Subject: | Re: Cowl/engine interference? |
Thanks, Dave... the spider is fine; it's the "loop up" right before the line
goes into the #2 cylinder that's the problem. I figure the line can
probably be adjusted/moved, but want to get Aero Sport's take on it, so I
don't break anything.
Man, your oil door sure is nice :)
-Rob
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Dave Saylor <
dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com> wrote:
> Rob,
>
> I remember lowering the spider for the same reason. I think I just turned
> the bracket over and trimmed as necessary. Lots of room now.
>
>
> Dave Saylor
> AirCrafters LLC
> 140 Aviation Way
> Watsonville, CA 95076
> 831-722-9141 Shop
> 831-750-0284 Cell
>
>
> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Just did the cowl fitting this weekend, and it looks like I have an
>> interference issue with the mixture arm (Silver Hawk FI system) and cowl.
>> Anyone else have this problem? I have only about 1/4" clearance, which
>> doesn't seem like enough. I've heard of interference issues with the FAB,
>> but not cowl.
>>
>> I also have a problem with the fuel line for the #2 cylinder being only
>> 1/8-1/4" from the top cowl--will be calling Aero Sport about that tomorrow.
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>> --
>> Rob Kochman
>> RV-10 "Finishing" Kit
>> Woodinville, WA (near Seattle)
>> http://kochman.net/N819K
>>
>> *
>>
>> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>> tp://forums.matronics.com
>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>> *
>>
>>
>
--
Rob Kochman
RV-10 "Finishing" Kit
Woodinville, WA (near Seattle)
http://kochman.net/N819K
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| Subject: | Re: Front tire make |
Aero-Classic
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 3:05 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Front tire make
>
> Does anyone remember what front tire make came with
> the kit? I've been happy with the Desser HP retreads
> on the mains, and my nose tire is going strong, but I
> want to buy a spare. I figure since it's worked good
> so far I may just buy the same thing again.
>
> --
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
>
>
>
>
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Hi all
I'm just about done with my elevator construction and while I'm waiting
for the prosealed trailing edges to set up I went to rivet the trim
cable attachment brackets to the cover plates. The plans call out for
LP4-3 rivets. I've bought the Cleveland Tools brackets but I can't
figure out why solid rivets wouldn't be used here. Can anyone shed some
light on why I need to use LP4-3's?
Question 2: Can anyone tell me how to properly use a step drill? I've
been a woodworker for more than 30 years and have never had a hand tool
I couldn't figure out how to use. I've now bought 2 different sized
drills thinking the first one was a dud, but can't seem to get the newer
one to work worth a d**n either. Case in point, when I tried to drill
out the .060" front elevator spar for the snap bushing, I would have
bent the spar before I forced it to drill the proper sizes hole. What
am I missing????
Regards, Rick
#40956
Southampton, Ont
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| Subject: | Re: step drills etc |
Rick,
Don't use rivets at all to attach those brackets, use machine screws and stopnuts.
You will need to rotate the brackets when rigging the trim, just bolt them
up when you have them adjusted.
I'm not sure what the problem with the step drill except you ARE drilling an hole
first before using the drill right? They don't start holes very well.
Rick Sked
N246RS
Annual time!!
---- Rick and Sandra Lark <jrlark@bmts.com> wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I'm just about done with my elevator construction and while I'm waiting for the
prosealed trailing edges to set up I went to rivet the trim cable attachment
brackets to the cover plates. The plans call out for LP4-3 rivets. I've bought
the Cleveland Tools brackets but I can't figure out why solid rivets wouldn't
be used here. Can anyone shed some light on why I need to use LP4-3's?
>
> Question 2: Can anyone tell me how to properly use a step drill? I've been
a woodworker for more than 30 years and have never had a hand tool I couldn't
figure out how to use. I've now bought 2 different sized drills thinking the
first one was a dud, but can't seem to get the newer one to work worth a d**n
either. Case in point, when I tried to drill out the .060" front elevator spar
for the snap bushing, I would have bent the spar before I forced it to drill
the proper sizes hole. What am I missing????
>
> Regards, Rick
>
> #40956
> Southampton, Ont
>
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| Subject: | Trim Cable Attach Bracket |
Anywhere to pick up something similar to the CNC'd Trim Cable Attach
Bracket that rivethead used to produce?
Thanks,
Sean #40303
http://rv10.stephensville.com
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| Subject: | Re: Trim Cable Attach Bracket |
iflyrv10.com
David Maib
40559
On May 24, 2010, at 7:54 PM, Sean Stephens wrote:
>
> Anywhere to pick up something similar to the CNC'd Trim Cable Attach Bracket
that rivethead used to produce?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sean #40303
> http://rv10.stephensville.com
>
>
>
>
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http://www.iflyrv10.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Sean Stephens [mailto:sean@stephensville.com]
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 6:54 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Trim Cable Attach Bracket
Anywhere to pick up something similar to the CNC'd Trim Cable Attach
Bracket that rivethead used to produce?
Thanks,
Sean #40303
http://rv10.stephensville.com
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Many thanks.
do not archive
On 5/24/10 7:01 PM, David Maib wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: David Maib<dmaib@me.com>
>
> iflyrv10.com
>
> David Maib
> 40559
>
> On May 24, 2010, at 7:54 PM, Sean Stephens wrote:
>
>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens<sean@stephensville.com>
>>
>> Anywhere to pick up something similar to the CNC'd Trim Cable Attach Bracket
that rivethead used to produce?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Sean #40303
>> http://rv10.stephensville.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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I would guess you might be using the "Harbor Freight" type step drill. They
tend to make rough, less than round holes. I bought a set figuring I could
save a few dollars. Big mistake.
Try a Unibit brand step drill. Smooth hole every time. If your local
Lowes/Home Depot should have them. If not, Cleaveland Tools does:
http://www.cleavelandtoolstore.com/products.asp?dept=21
Carl Froehlich
RV-8A (540 hrs)
RV-10 (systems install)
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick and Sandra
Lark
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 7:06 PM
Subject: RV10-List: step drills etc
Hi all
I'm just about done with my elevator construction and while I'm waiting for
the prosealed trailing edges to set up I went to rivet the trim cable
attachment brackets to the cover plates. The plans call out for LP4-3
rivets. I've bought the Cleveland Tools brackets but I can't figure out why
solid rivets wouldn't be used here. Can anyone shed some light on why I
need to use LP4-3's?
Question 2: Can anyone tell me how to properly use a step drill? I've been
a woodworker for more than 30 years and have never had a hand tool I
couldn't figure out how to use. I've now bought 2 different sized drills
thinking the first one was a dud, but can't seem to get the newer one to
work worth a d**n either. Case in point, when I tried to drill out the
.060" front elevator spar for the snap bushing, I would have bent the spar
before I forced it to drill the proper sizes hole. What am I missing????
Regards, Rick
#40956
Southampton, Ont
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| Subject: | Re: Front tire make |
Thanks guys.
Tim
On May 24, 2010, at 4:27 PM, Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com> wrote:
> My kit came with "Aero Classic" tires, both nose and mains.
>
> -Rob
>
> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>
> Does anyone remember what front tire make came with
> the kit? I've been happy with the Desser HP retreads
> on the mains, and my nose tire is going strong, but I
> want to buy a spare. I figure since it's worked good
> so far I may just buy the same thing again.
>
> --
> Tim Olson - RV-10s List Features Navigator to browse
> s.com/Navigator?RV10-List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
> ronics.com/" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com
> Matt Dralle, List Admin.
> ====
>
>
> --
> Rob Kochman
> RV-10 "Finishing" Kit
> Woodinville, WA (near Seattle)
> http://kochman.net/N819K
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: step drills etc |
Drill into a piece of scrap first to make sure sizing is accurate or your snap
bushings will be loose. My first one was not.
I used LP-4's but will change out to screws/miniature nut plates later on.
--------
Wayne Gillispie, A&P 5/93, PPC 10/08
Grayson, KY Bldr# 40983
Ord complete kit 8/24/09; DB Sch del 11/20/09
Emp 12/01/09-3/14/10 332 hrs
Wings 3/14/10-
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298801#298801
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| Subject: | Re: step drills etc |
Hmmm....Yes you're right Carl. Both drills were cheap Harbor Freight
type drills. I don't usually go the cheap route when it comes to tools.
Not sure now why I even tried. I'll look for a "good" drill. Thx
Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: Carl Froehlich
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 8:33 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: step drills etc
I would guess you might be using the "Harbor Freight" type step drill.
They tend to make rough, less than round holes. I bought a set
figuring I could save a few dollars. Big mistake.
Try a Unibit brand step drill. Smooth hole every time. If your local
Lowes/Home Depot should have them. If not, Cleaveland Tools does:
http://www.cleavelandtoolstore.com/products.asp?dept=21
Carl Froehlich
RV-8A (540 hrs)
RV-10 (systems install)
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick and
Sandra Lark
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 7:06 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: step drills etc
Hi all
I'm just about done with my elevator construction and while I'm
waiting for the prosealed trailing edges to set up I went to rivet the
trim cable attachment brackets to the cover plates. The plans call out
for LP4-3 rivets. I've bought the Cleveland Tools brackets but I can't
figure out why solid rivets wouldn't be used here. Can anyone shed some
light on why I need to use LP4-3's?
Question 2: Can anyone tell me how to properly use a step drill?
I've been a woodworker for more than 30 years and have never had a hand
tool I couldn't figure out how to use. I've now bought 2 different
sized drills thinking the first one was a dud, but can't seem to get the
newer one to work worth a d**n either. Case in point, when I tried to
drill out the .060" front elevator spar for the snap bushing, I would
have bent the spar before I forced it to drill the proper sizes hole.
What am I missing????
Regards, Rick
#40956
Southampton, Ont
http://www.matronic================
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| Subject: | Re: Front tire make |
You don't happen to remember if they're the Aero-classic
"Vintage" 6-ply or other, do you? I see the Vintage
has the tread pattern like mine, whereas the
6-ply "Light Sport" is way cheaper but doesn't have the
same tread. I figure the 500-6 6-ply LSA tire
would probably be ok on the nose, considering it's
for the mains on LSA's, just like Van's does with the
10....the nose tire is the same as the 2-place RV's
mains. I'm not sure if Van's consistently sells the
same model of tire through all delivery dates, but the
LSA is $37 and the Vintage is $73 from Desser...which is
where I've always got my tires. Van's sells one
in the 50's but doesn't specify which one.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
Seano wrote:
>
> Aero-Classic
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 3:05 PM
> Subject: RV10-List: Front tire make
>
>
>>
>> Does anyone remember what front tire make came with
>> the kit? I've been happy with the Desser HP retreads
>> on the mains, and my nose tire is going strong, but I
>> want to buy a spare. I figure since it's worked good
>> so far I may just buy the same thing again.
>>
>> --
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>> do not archive
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: step drills etc |
Ok, thx Rick. I kind of wondered about those brackets. I probably will
just leave them detached from the cover plates until I start rigging, which
appears to be a ways down the road.
I have to ask another question. At this point (elevators just about
complete), I have 300 man hrs into this project. I noticed on Tim O's web
site, he had about 170 hrs at this same point..... I must be really slow
or????? How much time did other builders have at this stage?
I don't want to set a record as the slowest RV10 build, but still want it
done correctly. Maybe I'm a little anal retentive??
All opinions appreciated.
Rick Lark
#40956
----- Original Message -----
From: <ricksked@cox.net>
Cc: "Rick and Sandra Lark" <jrlark@bmts.com>
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: step drills etc
> Rick,
>
> Don't use rivets at all to attach those brackets, use machine screws and
> stopnuts. You will need to rotate the brackets when rigging the trim, just
> bolt them up when you have them adjusted.
>
> I'm not sure what the problem with the step drill except you ARE drilling
> an hole first before using the drill right? They don't start holes very
> well.
>
> Rick Sked
> N246RS
> Annual time!!
> ---- Rick and Sandra Lark <jrlark@bmts.com> wrote:
>> Hi all
>>
>> I'm just about done with my elevator construction and while I'm waiting
>> for the prosealed trailing edges to set up I went to rivet the trim cable
>> attachment brackets to the cover plates. The plans call out for LP4-3
>> rivets. I've bought the Cleveland Tools brackets but I can't figure out
>> why solid rivets wouldn't be used here. Can anyone shed some light on
>> why I need to use LP4-3's?
>>
>> Question 2: Can anyone tell me how to properly use a step drill? I've
>> been a woodworker for more than 30 years and have never had a hand tool I
>> couldn't figure out how to use. I've now bought 2 different sized drills
>> thinking the first one was a dud, but can't seem to get the newer one to
>> work worth a d**n either. Case in point, when I tried to drill out the
>> .060" front elevator spar for the snap bushing, I would have bent the
>> spar before I forced it to drill the proper sizes hole. What am I
>> missing????
>>
>> Regards, Rick
>>
>> #40956
>> Southampton, Ont
>>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Front tire make |
Lol.....Vans supplied them....think "Dutch" and there you will find
the answers you seek grasshopper!!!
Rick
Sent from my iPhone
On May 24, 2010, at 7:39 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
>
> You don't happen to remember if they're the Aero-classic
> "Vintage" 6-ply or other, do you? I see the Vintage
> has the tread pattern like mine, whereas the
> 6-ply "Light Sport" is way cheaper but doesn't have the
> same tread. I figure the 500-6 6-ply LSA tire
> would probably be ok on the nose, considering it's
> for the mains on LSA's, just like Van's does with the
> 10....the nose tire is the same as the 2-place RV's
> mains. I'm not sure if Van's consistently sells the
> same model of tire through all delivery dates, but the
> LSA is $37 and the Vintage is $73 from Desser...which is
> where I've always got my tires. Van's sells one
> in the 50's but doesn't specify which one.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
>
>
> Seano wrote:
>> Aero-Classic
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 3:05 PM
>> Subject: RV10-List: Front tire make
>>>
>>> Does anyone remember what front tire make came with
>>> the kit? I've been happy with the Desser HP retreads
>>> on the mains, and my nose tire is going strong, but I
>>> want to buy a spare. I figure since it's worked good
>>> so far I may just buy the same thing again.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>>> do not archive
>>>
>>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Front tire make |
Mine say type III 6 ply.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 24, 2010, at 20:39, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
>
> You don't happen to remember if they're the Aero-classic
> "Vintage" 6-ply or other, do you? I see the Vintage
> has the tread pattern like mine, whereas the
> 6-ply "Light Sport" is way cheaper but doesn't have the
> same tread. I figure the 500-6 6-ply LSA tire
> would probably be ok on the nose, considering it's
> for the mains on LSA's, just like Van's does with the
> 10....the nose tire is the same as the 2-place RV's
> mains. I'm not sure if Van's consistently sells the
> same model of tire through all delivery dates, but the
> LSA is $37 and the Vintage is $73 from Desser...which is
> where I've always got my tires. Van's sells one
> in the 50's but doesn't specify which one.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
>
>
> Seano wrote:
>> Aero-Classic
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 3:05 PM
>> Subject: RV10-List: Front tire make
>>>
>>> Does anyone remember what front tire make came with
>>> the kit? I've been happy with the Desser HP retreads
>>> on the mains, and my nose tire is going strong, but I
>>> want to buy a spare. I figure since it's worked good
>>> so far I may just buy the same thing again.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>>> do not archive
>>>
>>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Front tire make |
Tha's what has me so confused...I can't believe they's splurge
on the 'spensive one. :)
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
Rick wrote:
>
> Lol.....Vans supplied them....think "Dutch" and there you will find the
> answers you seek grasshopper!!!
>
> Rick
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 24, 2010, at 7:39 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> You don't happen to remember if they're the Aero-classic
>> "Vintage" 6-ply or other, do you? I see the Vintage
>> has the tread pattern like mine, whereas the
>> 6-ply "Light Sport" is way cheaper but doesn't have the
>> same tread. I figure the 500-6 6-ply LSA tire
>> would probably be ok on the nose, considering it's
>> for the mains on LSA's, just like Van's does with the
>> 10....the nose tire is the same as the 2-place RV's
>> mains. I'm not sure if Van's consistently sells the
>> same model of tire through all delivery dates, but the
>> LSA is $37 and the Vintage is $73 from Desser...which is
>> where I've always got my tires. Van's sells one
>> in the 50's but doesn't specify which one.
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>> Seano wrote:
>>> Aero-Classic
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 3:05 PM
>>> Subject: RV10-List: Front tire make
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone remember what front tire make came with
>>>> the kit? I've been happy with the Desser HP retreads
>>>> on the mains, and my nose tire is going strong, but I
>>>> want to buy a spare. I figure since it's worked good
>>>> so far I may just buy the same thing again.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>>>> do not archive
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: step drills etc |
I've found that while I think most people *can* move as quick through
the project as I did, if they want to, that I may be a little bit
quicker than many. The thing is, I think I really did devote myself
to the project when I was on it, and when I wasn't, I really wasn't.
The more consistent you work on it, and the more you plan ahead, the
faster it goes. I didn't cut corners or do sloppy work, and in fact
worried at first that I was being WAY too anal for the first 50 or
100 hours. But, I just really went to it, and got in the groove.
I think if someone has no big family obligations on a daily basis,
and doesn't have too many other irons in the fire, that you'd likely
easily complete any RV-10 in 3 years. But, most people have obligations
and other things going on. I was lucky enough to even have a wife that
mowed the lawn every time it needed it, so that I didn't have to.
With a partner like that, it was easy to finish in 25 months...I could
even go much quicker next time if I wanted. I even had to take care
of kids as a single-parent-at-home most evenings, when they were 2,3,4,5
years old, so I did it with plenty of things going on. It's just
a matter of focus and consistent work. Plus...I *really* wanted it
done. :)
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
Rick and Sandra Lark wrote:
>
> Ok, thx Rick. I kind of wondered about those brackets. I probably will
> just leave them detached from the cover plates until I start rigging,
> which appears to be a ways down the road.
>
> I have to ask another question. At this point (elevators just about
> complete), I have 300 man hrs into this project. I noticed on Tim O's
> web site, he had about 170 hrs at this same point..... I must be really
> slow or????? How much time did other builders have at this stage?
>
> I don't want to set a record as the slowest RV10 build, but still want
> it done correctly. Maybe I'm a little anal retentive??
>
> All opinions appreciated.
>
> Rick Lark
> #40956
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <ricksked@cox.net>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Cc: "Rick and Sandra Lark" <jrlark@bmts.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 7:16 PM
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: step drills etc
>
>
>> Rick,
>>
>> Don't use rivets at all to attach those brackets, use machine screws
>> and stopnuts. You will need to rotate the brackets when rigging the
>> trim, just bolt them up when you have them adjusted.
>>
>> I'm not sure what the problem with the step drill except you ARE
>> drilling an hole first before using the drill right? They don't start
>> holes very well.
>>
>> Rick Sked
>> N246RS
>> Annual time!!
>> ---- Rick and Sandra Lark <jrlark@bmts.com> wrote:
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> I'm just about done with my elevator construction and while I'm
>>> waiting for the prosealed trailing edges to set up I went to rivet
>>> the trim cable attachment brackets to the cover plates. The plans
>>> call out for LP4-3 rivets. I've bought the Cleveland Tools brackets
>>> but I can't figure out why solid rivets wouldn't be used here. Can
>>> anyone shed some light on why I need to use LP4-3's?
>>>
>>> Question 2: Can anyone tell me how to properly use a step drill?
>>> I've been a woodworker for more than 30 years and have never had a
>>> hand tool I couldn't figure out how to use. I've now bought 2
>>> different sized drills thinking the first one was a dud, but can't
>>> seem to get the newer one to work worth a d**n either. Case in
>>> point, when I tried to drill out the .060" front elevator spar for
>>> the snap bushing, I would have bent the spar before I forced it to
>>> drill the proper sizes hole. What am I missing????
>>>
>>> Regards, Rick
>>>
>>> #40956
>>> Southampton, Ont
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: step drills etc |
I stopped trying to track time, oh, around doing the vertical stab.
Work goes a lot faster when you don't waste time tracking it. I know
of at least one kit that is below ser. no 40050 that is no where near
putting the major parts together, much less finishing. Enjoy the
build, satisfy your own quality requirements, and it will be done when
it is done.
Kelly
40866
Fuselage/fuel system
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Rick and Sandra Lark <jrlark@bmts.com> wrote:
.
>
> I have to ask another question. At this point (elevators just about
> complete), I have 300 man hrs into this project. I noticed on Tim O's web
> site, he had about 170 hrs at this same point..... I must be really slow
> or????? How much time did other builders have at this stage?
>
> I don't want to set a record as the slowest RV10 build, but still want it
> done correctly. Maybe I'm a little anal retentive??
>
> All opinions appreciated.
>
> Rick Lark
> #40956
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| Subject: | Re: Front tire make |
I'm surprised you would have any need for a nose tire. They usually
last 2-3 times as long as mains. In 12 years of flying my Mooney, I've
replaced nose tire 1 time, on 3rd set of mains.
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>
> You don't happen to remember if they're the Aero-classic
> "Vintage" 6-ply or other, do you?
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
>
>
> Seano wrote:
>>
>>
>> Aero-Classic
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 3:05 PM
>> Subject: RV10-List: Front tire make
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Does anyone remember what front tire make came with
>>> the kit? I've been happy with the Desser HP retreads
>>> on the mains, and my nose tire is going strong, but I
>>> want to buy a spare. I figure since it's worked good
>>> so far I may just buy the same thing again.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>>> do not archive
>>>
>>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: step drills etc |
My experience with the HF strep bits is that they work fine for x holes
(x being dependent on the material drilled). Then suddenly, they seem to
wear through a very thin, hardened surface on the bit, and become
completely non-functioning junk.
Having said that, the HF bits are a good value (!!!). I forget the
prices but you can get a set of 3 bits for about the 1/3 the cost of 1
quality bit. I'm on my second set having worn 2 bits out but my '10 is
close to finished (did I say that?). I have a quality bit which I'm
saving for any more firewall SS holes but there's little other steel on
the aircraft. I used the HF bits on aluminum and composite and I'm
prepared to ruin 1 or 2 more bits if necessary.
To use the HF bits, you just have to be ready to chuck them as soon as
they don't seem to be cutting. But on sale, they are really cheap and I
have room to store them. YMMV.
Bill
Rick and Sandra Lark wrote:
> Hmmm....Yes you're right Carl. Both drills were cheap Harbor Freight
> type drills. I don't usually go the cheap route when it comes to
> tools. Not sure now why I even tried. I'll look for a "good" drill. Thx
> Rick
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Carl Froehlich
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, May 24, 2010 8:33 PM
> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: step drills etc
>
> I would guess you might be using the Harbor Freight type step
> drill. They tend to make rough, less than round holes. I bought a
> set figuring I could save a few dollars. Big mistake.
>
> Try a Unibit brand step drill. Smooth hole every time. If your
> local Lowes/Home Depot should have them. If not, Cleaveland Tools
> does: http://www.cleavelandtoolstore.com/products.asp?dept=21
>
> Carl Froehlich
>
> RV-8A (540 hrs)
>
> RV-10 (systems install)
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Rick
> and Sandra Lark
> *Sent:* Monday, May 24, 2010 7:06 PM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RV10-List: step drills etc
>
> Hi all
>
> I'm just about done with my elevator construction and while I'm
> waiting for the prosealed trailing edges to set up I went to rivet
> the trim cable attachment brackets to the cover plates. The plans
> call out for LP4-3 rivets. I've bought the Cleveland Tools
> brackets but I can't figure out why solid rivets wouldn't be used
> here. Can anyone shed some light on why I need to use LP4-3's?
>
> Question 2: Can anyone tell me how to properly use a step drill?
> I've been a woodworker for more than 30 years and have never had a
> hand tool I couldn't figure out how to use. I've now bought 2
> different sized drills thinking the first one was a dud, but can't
> seem to get the newer one to work worth a d**n either. Case in
> point, when I tried to drill out the .060" front elevator spar for
> the snap bushing, I would have bent the spar before I forced it to
> drill the proper sizes hole. What am I missing????
>
> Regards, Rick
>
> #40956
>
> Southampton, Ont
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| Subject: | Re: Front tire make |
I don't need it yet...it could go another couple hundred hours if I do
well. But as the center is wearing I'm going to keep it on hand this
summer in case it gets down there a ways, and then I'm going to
replace it early brefore my next out-of-USA trip. My old will be a
good spare if I keep it in a big ziploc with low oxygen levels. I
like spares. So I'm guessing the nose tire wouldn't have a big
problem making 800-1000 hours. I'm getting about 300-400 per set of
mains so your estimate is about right. I just don't want to go
international on less-improved strips with tires that aren't as thick
as they could be.
Tim
On May 24, 2010, at 10:28 PM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm surprised you would have any need for a nose tire. They usually
> last 2-3 times as long as mains. In 12 years of flying my Mooney, I've
> replaced nose tire 1 time, on 3rd set of mains.
>
> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>>
>> You don't happen to remember if they're the Aero-classic
>> "Vintage" 6-ply or other, do you?
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>> Seano wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Aero-Classic
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 3:05 PM
>>> Subject: RV10-List: Front tire make
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone remember what front tire make came with
>>>> the kit? I've been happy with the Desser HP retreads
>>>> on the mains, and my nose tire is going strong, but I
>>>> want to buy a spare. I figure since it's worked good
>>>> so far I may just buy the same thing again.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>>>> do not archive
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: step drills etc |
Enjoy the process. My Dad got sick and passed away during my
build...during that time all I knew was I couldn't park my car in the
garage because of my "project" which was nothing in comparison to my
life at the time My total build time is about 2400 hours, or 5 years 4
months and 23 days. Build time is like a fingerprint...no two are the
same. Perserverance is the best ribbon they can give you at Osh....
Rick
Sent from my iPhone
On May 24, 2010, at 7:56 PM, "Rick and Sandra Lark" <jrlark@bmts.com>
wrote:
> >
>
> Ok, thx Rick. I kind of wondered about those brackets. I probably
> will just leave them detached from the cover plates until I start
> rigging, which appears to be a ways down the road.
>
> I have to ask another question. At this point (elevators just about
> complete), I have 300 man hrs into this project. I noticed on Tim
> O's web site, he had about 170 hrs at this same point..... I must
> be really slow or????? How much time did other builders have at
> this stage?
>
> I don't want to set a record as the slowest RV10 build, but still
> want it done correctly. Maybe I'm a little anal retentive??
>
> All opinions appreciated.
>
> Rick Lark
> #40956
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <ricksked@cox.net>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Cc: "Rick and Sandra Lark" <jrlark@bmts.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 7:16 PM
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: step drills etc
>
>
>> Rick,
>>
>> Don't use rivets at all to attach those brackets, use machine
>> screws and stopnuts. You will need to rotate the brackets when
>> rigging the trim, just bolt them up when you have them adjusted.
>>
>> I'm not sure what the problem with the step drill except you ARE
>> drilling an hole first before using the drill right? They don't
>> start holes very well.
>>
>> Rick Sked
>> N246RS
>> Annual time!!
>> ---- Rick and Sandra Lark <jrlark@bmts.com> wrote:
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> I'm just about done with my elevator construction and while I'm
>>> waiting for the prosealed trailing edges to set up I went to rivet
>>> the trim cable attachment brackets to the cover plates. The plans
>>> call out for LP4-3 rivets. I've bought the Cleveland Tools
>>> brackets but I can't figure out why solid rivets wouldn't be used
>>> here. Can anyone shed some light on why I need to use LP4-3's?
>>>
>>> Question 2: Can anyone tell me how to properly use a step drill?
>>> I've been a woodworker for more than 30 years and have never had a
>>> hand tool I couldn't figure out how to use. I've now bought 2
>>> different sized drills thinking the first one was a dud, but can't
>>> seem to get the newer one to work worth a d**n either. Case in
>>> point, when I tried to drill out the .060" front elevator spar for
>>> the snap bushing, I would have bent the spar before I forced it to
>>> drill the proper sizes hole. What am I missing????
>>>
>>> Regards, Rick
>>>
>>> #40956
>>> Southampton, Ont
>>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: step drills etc |
I watched this carefully...
http://www.airspacemag.com/multimedia/videos/Go-For-Launch.html
.... and I noticed a lot of people standing around with their hands in
their pockets. I can relate. Although my project is a one man effort
(with critical assistance from my rivet bucker and life partner Alicia),
I spend plenty of time standing around admiring the kit, my progress, my
lack of progress, thinking about future progress, smoking a cigar,
watching the Waco depart, and otherwise scritching my cat. These are
the best of times.
Now, I have to admit that I have a Maule to fly when the mood strikes,
but I increasingly find myself forcing the issue just to maintain some
proficiency (or to get from A to B). Fact is, standing around with my
hands in my pockets trying to remember what I planned to do is a lot
more fun.. sort of.
Enjoy the process and remember it's not work.
Bill "trying to get comfortable with my progress as a 4th anniversary
approaches" Watson
Rick and Sandra Lark wrote:
> ....snippetysnip
> I have to ask another question. At this point (elevators just about
> complete), I have 300 man hrs into this project. I noticed on Tim O's
> web site, he had about 170 hrs at this same point..... I must be
> really slow or????? How much time did other builders have at this
> stage?
>
> I don't want to set a record as the slowest RV10 build, but still want
> it done correctly. Maybe I'm a little anal retentive??
>
> All opinions appreciated.
>
> Rick Lark
> #40956
>
>
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