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1. 10:34 AM - Re: step drills etc (John Cumins)
2. 11:25 AM - Re: step drills etc (Sean Stephens)
3. 02:52 PM - Re: TT Hours? (RobHickman@aol.com)
4. 03:41 PM - Re: step drills etc (rv10flyer)
5. 05:31 PM - Re: Re: step drills etc (Rick Lark)
6. 09:07 PM - Re: Re: step drills etc (Tim Olson)
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Rick
Everyone builds at different speeds. I suspect I am about the same time hours wise
as you. So dont worry about it take your time pay close attention to the
details and you will be fine.
John G. Cumins
40864 Mounted elevators to horz stab Emp almost complete
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick and Sandra Lark
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: step drills etc
Ok, thx Rick. I kind of wondered about those brackets. I probably will
just leave them detached from the cover plates until I start rigging, which
appears to be a ways down the road.
I have to ask another question. At this point (elevators just about
complete), I have 300 man hrs into this project. I noticed on Tim O's web
site, he had about 170 hrs at this same point..... I must be really slow
or????? How much time did other builders have at this stage?
I don't want to set a record as the slowest RV10 build, but still want it
done correctly. Maybe I'm a little anal retentive??
All opinions appreciated.
Rick Lark
#40956
----- Original Message -----
From: <ricksked@cox.net>
Cc: "Rick and Sandra Lark" <jrlark@bmts.com>
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: step drills etc
> Rick,
>
> Don't use rivets at all to attach those brackets, use machine screws and
> stopnuts. You will need to rotate the brackets when rigging the trim, just
> bolt them up when you have them adjusted.
>
> I'm not sure what the problem with the step drill except you ARE drilling
> an hole first before using the drill right? They don't start holes very
> well.
>
> Rick Sked
> N246RS
> Annual time!!
> ---- Rick and Sandra Lark <jrlark@bmts.com> wrote:
>> Hi all
>>
>> I'm just about done with my elevator construction and while I'm waiting
>> for the prosealed trailing edges to set up I went to rivet the trim cable
>> attachment brackets to the cover plates. The plans call out for LP4-3
>> rivets. I've bought the Cleveland Tools brackets but I can't figure out
>> why solid rivets wouldn't be used here. Can anyone shed some light on
>> why I need to use LP4-3's?
>>
>> Question 2: Can anyone tell me how to properly use a step drill? I've
>> been a woodworker for more than 30 years and have never had a hand tool I
>> couldn't figure out how to use. I've now bought 2 different sized drills
>> thinking the first one was a dud, but can't seem to get the newer one to
>> work worth a d**n either. Case in point, when I tried to drill out the
>> .060" front elevator spar for the snap bushing, I would have bent the
>> spar before I forced it to drill the proper sizes hole. What am I
>> missing????
>>
>> Regards, Rick
>>
>> #40956
>> Southampton, Ont
>>
>
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| Subject: | Re: step drills etc |
Here here. Approaching 5 years and I am just finishing the wings. Good
part is that avionics and after market "stuff" just keeps getting better
the longer it takes me. Bad part is that kit, engine and prop prices
keep going up the longer it takes me. :)
-Sean #40303
http://rv10.stephensville.com
On 5/24/10 10:58 PM, Rick wrote:
>
> Enjoy the process. My Dad got sick and passed away during my
> build...during that time all I knew was I couldn't park my car in the
> garage because of my "project" which was nothing in comparison to my
> life at the time My total build time is about 2400 hours, or 5 years 4
> months and 23 days. Build time is like a fingerprint...no two are the
> same. Perserverance is the best ribbon they can give you at Osh....
>
> Rick
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 24, 2010, at 7:56 PM, "Rick and Sandra Lark" <jrlark@bmts.com>
> wrote:
>
>> <jrlark@bmts.com>
>>
>> Ok, thx Rick. I kind of wondered about those brackets. I probably
>> will just leave them detached from the cover plates until I start
>> rigging, which appears to be a ways down the road.
>>
>> I have to ask another question. At this point (elevators just about
>> complete), I have 300 man hrs into this project. I noticed on Tim
>> O's web site, he had about 170 hrs at this same point..... I must be
>> really slow or????? How much time did other builders have at this
>> stage?
>>
>> I don't want to set a record as the slowest RV10 build, but still
>> want it done correctly. Maybe I'm a little anal retentive??
>>
>> All opinions appreciated.
>>
>> Rick Lark
>> #40956
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <ricksked@cox.net>
>> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>> Cc: "Rick and Sandra Lark" <jrlark@bmts.com>
>> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 7:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: step drills etc
>>
>>
>>> Rick,
>>>
>>> Don't use rivets at all to attach those brackets, use machine screws
>>> and stopnuts. You will need to rotate the brackets when rigging the
>>> trim, just bolt them up when you have them adjusted.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure what the problem with the step drill except you ARE
>>> drilling an hole first before using the drill right? They don't
>>> start holes very well.
>>>
>>> Rick Sked
>>> N246RS
>>> Annual time!!
>>> ---- Rick and Sandra Lark <jrlark@bmts.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi all
>>>>
>>>> I'm just about done with my elevator construction and while I'm
>>>> waiting for the prosealed trailing edges to set up I went to rivet
>>>> the trim cable attachment brackets to the cover plates. The plans
>>>> call out for LP4-3 rivets. I've bought the Cleveland Tools
>>>> brackets but I can't figure out why solid rivets wouldn't be used
>>>> here. Can anyone shed some light on why I need to use LP4-3's?
>>>>
>>>> Question 2: Can anyone tell me how to properly use a step drill?
>>>> I've been a woodworker for more than 30 years and have never had a
>>>> hand tool I couldn't figure out how to use. I've now bought 2
>>>> different sized drills thinking the first one was a dud, but can't
>>>> seem to get the newer one to work worth a d**n either. Case in
>>>> point, when I tried to drill out the .060" front elevator spar for
>>>> the snap bushing, I would have bent the spar before I forced it to
>>>> drill the proper sizes hole. What am I missing????
>>>>
>>>> Regards, Rick
>>>>
>>>> #40956
>>>> Southampton, Ont
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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I have just over 310 hours in less than 2 years, most of it from a grass
runway.
Rob Hickman
N402RH RV-10
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| Subject: | Re: step drills etc |
It depends alot on how you track time. I just write start and end time right on
the plans as I check off the steps. At the end of the section go back and add
the highlighted times up. My time starts when I am actually working with tools/parts
in my hand. I don't count ordering, a picture every now and then, lunch/supper
breaks, or reading plans before work starts.
It also depends on how much you spent on tools up front, shop conditions, your
mechanical ability and comfort using tools that can hurt if not used correctly.
Like most said...just enjoy the build, hang some pics of finished rv's/trip
pics like I did for motivation, fly/hang out with at least one other builder/rv
owner for motivation which I do, and save as much $$$ as possible for the next
piece but lastly don't forget the family. My wonderful wife of 21 yrs is a
really good riveter now...only had to drill out 2 or 3 so far. My 10 & 7 yr olds
are good at clecoing and placing rivets for Dad.
--------
Wayne Gillispie, A&P 5/93, PPC 10/08
Grayson, KY Bldr# 40983
Ord complete kit 8/24/09; DB Sch del 11/20/09
Emp 12/01/09-3/14/10 332 hrs
Wings 3/14/10-
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| Subject: | Re: step drills etc |
Guys
Thx for the advise and words of encouragement concerning build times.
I really am enjoying building this aircraft. Maybe that's why I'm so slow,
I'm savoring it too much ;-)
Tim you are one lucky man to have a spouse that mowed the lawn while you
built. Having said that I don't think I'd trust my wife with the mower
anyway.
I will keep working away at it, and as someone said, "it'll be done when
it's done".
Thx, Rick
#40956
Southampton, Ont
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| Subject: | Re: step drills etc |
:) Yes, I'm lucky, but trust me, every time I tell someone how
it was fun for "me to build an RV-10", she constantly reminds me
that the only reason I was able to do it was because she picked
up a lot of the loose ends around the house. ;) I appreciate the
heck out of her though. I'm very lucky we had the same goals.
Like the others said, enjoy it and make the build the way YOU want
it. Some want a relaxing building hobby...that's awesome. Some
see building as the journey to the reward at the end of the rainbow,
and they want to get there quick. Each person can approach it
with the level of "push" that they want. The part that gets tough
is when you want it done soon, but you don't want to dig in. I
spent countless nights laying awake just honestly praying for
spirit of dedication to the task, to enable me to make it though
the project at a rate that would satisfy the burning want to get
it done before I got too impatient to appreciate the time spent.
It's a very tough mental exercise to take on such a project if
you're impatient for the end result, as I was, because you
constantly have to see the light at the end of the tunnel lest
you let it break your spirit if you become discouraged. It's
one of the reasons I usually recommend saving enough money ahead
of time to finish the kit before your money pile runs out....because
if someone is really driven for that end result, it IS possible
to build the entire plane in such a short timeline that you
can easily get to the major spending sections before you have
the money saved. You start on the tail, and the next thing you
know you're buying your panel. For some people, patience comes
easy....for others (me), it was a learned thing on this project.
Thankfully there are numerous "I finished" experiences throughout
the process, as each section is completed.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
Rick Lark wrote:
>
> Guys
>
> Thx for the advise and words of encouragement concerning build times.
>
> I really am enjoying building this aircraft. Maybe that's why I'm so
> slow, I'm savoring it too much ;-)
>
> Tim you are one lucky man to have a spouse that mowed the lawn while you
> built. Having said that I don't think I'd trust my wife with the mower
> anyway.
>
> I will keep working away at it, and as someone said, "it'll be done when
> it's done".
>
> Thx, Rick
> #40956
> Southampton, Ont
>>
>>
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