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1. 05:04 AM - Re: Bulk Wire Order (davidsoutpost@comcast.net)
2. 05:45 AM - Re: Bulk Wire Order (Jesse Saint)
3. 05:55 AM - Re: Bulk Wire Order (Rene Felker)
4. 05:56 AM - Re: HID Landing Lights (Richard Barnes)
5. 06:06 AM - Re: Bulk Wire Order (Kelly McMullen)
6. 06:13 AM - Re: Bulk Wire Order (Rene Felker)
7. 06:22 AM - Re: Bulk Wire Order (Rene Felker)
8. 06:38 AM - Re: Bulk Wire Order (Tim Olson)
9. 06:40 AM - Re: HID Landing Lights (lbgjb10)
10. 06:50 AM - Re: HID Landing Lights (jayb)
11. 07:04 AM - Re: HID Landing Lights (Kelly McMullen)
12. 07:22 AM - Re: HID Landing Lights (Richard Barnes)
13. 07:42 AM - UREM38E Plugs For Sale (Barry Marz)
14. 11:08 AM - Spam (Lew Gallagher)
15. 11:33 AM - Re: Spam (Seano)
16. 11:34 AM - Re: Spam (Tim Olson)
17. 11:42 AM - Re: Spam (Jack Phillips)
18. 11:51 AM - Re: Spam (Robin Marks)
19. 11:52 AM - Re: Spam (Perry, Phil)
20. 12:02 PM - Re: Spam (Rhonda Bewley)
21. 12:48 PM - Re: Spam (Albert Gardner)
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Subject: | Re: Bulk Wire Order |
If you have not tried SteinAir, they are competitive on pricing and offer e
xcellent customer service. http://www.steinair.com/store.htm
David Clifford
RV-10 Builder
65% Done-95% To Go
N849RV (reserved)
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From: "Phil Perry" <Phil.Perry@netapp.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2010 11:12:01 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RV10-List: Bulk Wire Order
Ever since the baby showed up about a month ago, my airplane building time
has gone in the drink. But last weekend I fortunately found ~2 hours to wor
k on the airplane, so hopefully we=99re getting back on track.
I=99m getting ready to place a bulk wire order and I=99m curiou
s what sizes seem to be the ones used most? I=99m hoping to standardi
ze on 3-4 sizes and use the next largest size; even if it=99s not the
smallest size capable of the load. This way I can minimize how many spools
I need to buy and store in the garage.
Anyone have any recommendations on the sizes they used the most?
Phil
==
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Subject: | Re: Bulk Wire Order |
I personally like to use the correct size for each application to
balance weight and safety. Using a wire that's too big for the
application only adds weight. I understand the desire to save space,
but you can get a wire spool holder that holds 8 spools of wire in a
very small space. I have a friend that bought one at Lowes, I think,
but I'm not sure. I actually built a wire cart, which would obviously
take too much space. Another thing I like to do is use different colors
as much as possible. I always use Red for power and Black for ground,
of which I use mostly 18AWG, but also use a fair bit of 16AWG and 20AWG.
I usually use another color for signal wires that don't actually carry
power amperage, and I usually use 22AWG for this. For wires like Master
and Starter, I usually use Yellow 18AWG. For Trim Servos I usually use
a 3-conductor Shielded wire and a 2-conductor Shielded wire, since the
servo(s) need 5 wires. Using different color wires make it much easier
to trace a wire through a bundle when (not if) you have to do repairs
down the road. I also like to use Stein's auto pilot servo bundle for
the auto pilot servos, but I've also done that with the shielded
multi-conductor wire plus red and black or with just individual wires of
different colors. I also use a decent amount of 14AWG for landing
lights (when HID) and for E-Bus and Backup Bus when using Vertical
Power. You'll also need some 2AWG for power and starter main wires and
8AWG for Alternator and Bus wires.
Or, you could just get white 22, 20, 18, 16, 8 and 2 and make a
nightmare for yourself down the road when it comes time to modify or
repair. I don't recommend this. The wire bundles might look nicer this
way, but they are a pain to deal with.
Oh, on the multi-conductor shielded wire, I recommend using no smaller
than 22AWG. 24 is a pain to work with and 26 is rediculous, IMHO. The
added weight of going to 22 is negligible for the small amount needed.
This is all assuming a 12-Volt system.
That's my $.02
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
On Jun 3, 2010, at 11:12 PM, Perry, Phil wrote:
> Ever since the baby showed up about a month ago, my airplane building
time has gone in the drink. But last weekend I fortunately found ~2
hours to work on the airplane, so hopefully we=92re getting back on
track.
>
> I=92m getting ready to place a bulk wire order and I=92m curious what
sizes seem to be the ones used most? I=92m hoping to standardize on 3-4
sizes and use the next largest size; even if it=92s not the smallest
size capable of the load. This way I can minimize how many spools I
need to buy and store in the garage.
>
> Anyone have any recommendations on the sizes they used the most?
>
> Phil
>
>
>
>
>
>
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I went with a very similar list from Stein. But ordered extra 22 and 18, 5
different colors (Red, Green, Black, White, Yellow), 100 feet each. I have
some left, but NOT some of each color. I did not wire my own panel,
but...there is a lot of wire outside the panel. For example, the wing is a
little over 12 feet long, from the wing root to the back of the panel (or
strobe power supply) lets say it is 6 feet depending on routing..that makes
each run about 19' so far.you will need a maintenance loop (unless you are
putting in connectors), let's say 3'. So each run out to the wing tip will
be 22 feet. Now since you don't want to come up short, better add a few
feet for good measure. So lets just say, for a budget number you will need
30' feet per run out to the wing tips. This may be a little overkill, but
you will be surprised at how much wire you end up using.
RG-400. I ordered 100 feet and had to get more for the transponder cable
because I ran out. Again, it is a long way out to the wing tip...and don't
forget those maintenance loops...
Rene' Felker
N423CF
801-721-6080
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pascal
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Bulk Wire Order
Here is something from my archives from Stein.
Sending the whole message but stick with the wires section only, worry about
the BNC after you have the panel figured out.
--------------
Stick with the standard M22759/16 Tefzel wire...don't bother with teflon,
silver plated, etc...or surplus stuff (you never know what you're getting).
Also, if you spend more than a few hours "hunting" for a deal, you've just
wasted enough time to buy what you want and what you need brand new.
Depending on what you're doing with the plane and panel, buy at least the
following initially:
200' AWG22
200' AWG18
150' AWG16
50' AWG20
50' AWG14
25' AWG12
25' AWG10
100' RG-400 Coax
a dozen male BNC's, a half dozen female BNC's, a couple hundred PIDG ring
terminals, and some heatshrink.
Now, depending on if you want colors or not you can split all that up. The
above wiring amounts could vary pretty significantly depending on if you're
wiring your own panel or not, whether you're going full boat on lighting,
radios, IFR/VFR, etc.. I wouldn't waste my time buying whole spools then
trying to sell the surplus. Heck, wire is relatively cheap, we're talking
about something that costs pennies per foot...you'll only spend a couple/few
hundred bucks of wire total. Why waste your time goofing
around.......figure out what you need, what colors you want and just buy it.
As someone who regularly buys wire in 10,000' - 20,000' spools and keeps
over a half million feet of wire "hanging around", I can tell you playing
with spools to save a few percent is a waste of time on an item like this,
for one airplane. With your Avionics or engine it's a different story
because you can save a lot of dough, but in the wiring it's such a cheap
item to begin with that it's not worth much effort to save a buck.
Just my 2 cents as usual!
Cheers,
Stein.
--------------------
Pascal
From: Perry, <mailto:Phil.Perry@netapp.com> Phil
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 8:12 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Bulk Wire Order
Ever since the baby showed up about a month ago, my airplane building time
has gone in the drink. But last weekend I fortunately found ~2 hours to
work on the airplane, so hopefully we're getting back on track.
I'm getting ready to place a bulk wire order and I'm curious what sizes seem
to be the ones used most? I'm hoping to standardize on 3-4 sizes and use
the next largest size; even if it's not the smallest size capable of the
load. This way I can minimize how many spools I need to buy and store in
the garage.
Anyone have any recommendations on the sizes they used the most?
Phil
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Subject: | HID Landing Lights |
We also bought the Planelights 50W lights. Although we haven't flown yet,
they seem to be much brighter than the stock Van's lights. We bought them
last year and when we went to install them, last month, one of the lights
didn't work. I called Planelights and they sent me a new light, no
questions asked. Great service!!! We had the DAR inspection a few weeks
ago, the instruments passed IFR, and the engine started on the first turn.
High speed taxi test this weekend and first flight next week.
Rick Barnes
Mike Howe
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Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: HID Landing Lights
also mine run much cooler than the halogen.
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From: Dave Saylor <mailto:dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: HID Landing Lights
I'm using the 50W lights in my wingtips too.
I'm also using the XeVision wig wag. Works like a champ.
I have Archer antennas in the tips, comm 2 on the right, nav 1&2 on the
left.
The lights and the antennas don't play well together. The antennas pick up
a lot of noise from the lights. When I remove a wingtip and separate the
components, all is well.
I tried all the suggestions that Rigid had: isolated the transformer,
grounded the transformer case, shielded the lights, various combinations and
other things as well. No luck.
The good news is that the lights are so awesome that I can live with the
problem. They make the halogens look just plain silly. The navs work
within about 5 miles of the station, and if I really need comm2 I can shut
the lights off.
BTW, don't put any dark colored flammable materials within about 10" of the
lamp...
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:47 PM, DLM <dlm46007@cox.net> wrote:
My aircraft is the one shown on the website.
http://www.planelights.com/index.php?id=661
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Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 12:03 PM
Subject: RV10-List: HID Landing Lights
I was very unhappy with the standard wing tip landing lights because they
were not very bright and did not light up the yellow strip in front of the
plane. I bought a pair of HID Lights from Rigid Industries of Arizona, Mesa,
AZ and they work very, very well. Direct replacement for Vans lamps, and the
power supply is small and easily mounts to the last rib. Very bright and
lights up the area directly in front.
Tower says I look like an airliner on approach.
Albert Gardner
N991RV
Yuma, AZ
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Subject: | Re: Bulk Wire Order |
While RG-400 looks and sounds sexy, I personally don't see the advantage
of using it for nav antennas, and benefit for comm antennas is probably
marginal. I can see using it for transponder and GPS antennas. All of
the RG-58 in my Mooney is at least 20 yrs old, and radios still work
fine. That extra $1.50 a foot sure adds up in a hurry. Opinion over on
Aero-electric list recently was minimal difference for normal VHF stuff.
I guess that puts it in the primer discussion category. ;-)
On 6/4/2010 5:50 AM, Rene Felker wrote:
>
> RG-400. I ordered 100 feet and had to get more for the transponder
> cable because I ran out. Again, it is a long way out to the wing
> tip..and dont forget those maintenance loops.
>
> Rene' Felker
>
> N423CF
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> 801-721-6080
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I forgot something..
Crimp tools, pins, connectors...etc.
I did not wire my panel, but did need plenty of these. Stein sells a great
crimper and all the parts you need to make good connections.
Rene' Felker
N423CF
801-721-6080
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 6:50 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Bulk Wire Order
I went with a very similar list from Stein. But ordered extra 22 and 18, 5
different colors (Red, Green, Black, White, Yellow), 100 feet each. I have
some left, but NOT some of each color. I did not wire my own panel,
but...there is a lot of wire outside the panel. For example, the wing is a
little over 12 feet long, from the wing root to the back of the panel (or
strobe power supply) lets say it is 6 feet depending on routing..that makes
each run about 19' so far.you will need a maintenance loop (unless you are
putting in connectors), let's say 3'. So each run out to the wing tip will
be 22 feet. Now since you don't want to come up short, better add a few
feet for good measure. So lets just say, for a budget number you will need
30' feet per run out to the wing tips. This may be a little overkill, but
you will be surprised at how much wire you end up using.
RG-400. I ordered 100 feet and had to get more for the transponder cable
because I ran out. Again, it is a long way out to the wing tip...and don't
forget those maintenance loops...
Rene' Felker
N423CF
801-721-6080
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pascal
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Bulk Wire Order
Here is something from my archives from Stein.
Sending the whole message but stick with the wires section only, worry about
the BNC after you have the panel figured out.
--------------
Stick with the standard M22759/16 Tefzel wire...don't bother with teflon,
silver plated, etc...or surplus stuff (you never know what you're getting).
Also, if you spend more than a few hours "hunting" for a deal, you've just
wasted enough time to buy what you want and what you need brand new.
Depending on what you're doing with the plane and panel, buy at least the
following initially:
200' AWG22
200' AWG18
150' AWG16
50' AWG20
50' AWG14
25' AWG12
25' AWG10
100' RG-400 Coax
a dozen male BNC's, a half dozen female BNC's, a couple hundred PIDG ring
terminals, and some heatshrink.
Now, depending on if you want colors or not you can split all that up. The
above wiring amounts could vary pretty significantly depending on if you're
wiring your own panel or not, whether you're going full boat on lighting,
radios, IFR/VFR, etc.. I wouldn't waste my time buying whole spools then
trying to sell the surplus. Heck, wire is relatively cheap, we're talking
about something that costs pennies per foot...you'll only spend a couple/few
hundred bucks of wire total. Why waste your time goofing
around.......figure out what you need, what colors you want and just buy it.
As someone who regularly buys wire in 10,000' - 20,000' spools and keeps
over a half million feet of wire "hanging around", I can tell you playing
with spools to save a few percent is a waste of time on an item like this,
for one airplane. With your Avionics or engine it's a different story
because you can save a lot of dough, but in the wiring it's such a cheap
item to begin with that it's not worth much effort to save a buck.
Just my 2 cents as usual!
Cheers,
Stein.
--------------------
Pascal
From: Perry, <mailto:Phil.Perry@netapp.com> Phil
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 8:12 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Bulk Wire Order
Ever since the baby showed up about a month ago, my airplane building time
has gone in the drink. But last weekend I fortunately found ~2 hours to
work on the airplane, so hopefully we're getting back on track.
I'm getting ready to place a bulk wire order and I'm curious what sizes seem
to be the ones used most? I'm hoping to standardize on 3-4 sizes and use
the next largest size; even if it's not the smallest size capable of the
load. This way I can minimize how many spools I need to buy and store in
the garage.
Anyone have any recommendations on the sizes they used the most?
Phil
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I prefer the "sexy" cable, lord knows my body does not fit that description
(sexy). As far as function???????, I don't know and I am not advocating the
use of 400 over anything else. My estimate is that is cost me an extra $200
to use the 400.
It does pull easy. :)
Do not archive
Rene' Felker
N423CF
801-721-6080
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 7:06 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Bulk Wire Order
While RG-400 looks and sounds sexy, I personally don't see the advantage
of using it for nav antennas, and benefit for comm antennas is probably
marginal. I can see using it for transponder and GPS antennas. All of
the RG-58 in my Mooney is at least 20 yrs old, and radios still work
fine. That extra $1.50 a foot sure adds up in a hurry. Opinion over on
Aero-electric list recently was minimal difference for normal VHF stuff.
I guess that puts it in the primer discussion category. ;-)
On 6/4/2010 5:50 AM, Rene Felker wrote:
>
> RG-400. I ordered 100 feet and had to get more for the transponder
> cable because I ran out. Again, it is a long way out to the wing
> tip...and don't forget those maintenance loops...
>
> Rene' Felker
>
> N423CF
>
> 801-721-6080
>
> *
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Subject: | Re: Bulk Wire Order |
With the teflon construction and all, if it's not soaked
in water or banged up on the ends, it should be a "forever"
wire. As Rene' says, it slides and pulls real easily.
I may take a very different view than some, but I don't
mind spending a little more on some of this stuff for the
RV-10 if it means it's done to the highest standard
and will outlast me. It's been very nice over the past
4+ years to find that having everything start off as
new has proved to make most things pretty trouble-free.
Man, I sure don't miss the days of KX-170B's,
fiber-wrapped wires, and all the aged stuff you get
with a 25+ year old airframe.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
Rene Felker wrote:
>
> I prefer the "sexy" cable, lord knows my body does not fit that description
> (sexy). As far as function???????, I don't know and I am not advocating the
> use of 400 over anything else. My estimate is that is cost me an extra $200
> to use the 400.
>
> It does pull easy. :)
>
> Do not archive
>
> Rene' Felker
> N423CF
> 801-721-6080
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
> Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 7:06 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Bulk Wire Order
>
>
> While RG-400 looks and sounds sexy, I personally don't see the advantage
> of using it for nav antennas, and benefit for comm antennas is probably
> marginal. I can see using it for transponder and GPS antennas. All of
> the RG-58 in my Mooney is at least 20 yrs old, and radios still work
> fine. That extra $1.50 a foot sure adds up in a hurry. Opinion over on
> Aero-electric list recently was minimal difference for normal VHF stuff.
> I guess that puts it in the primer discussion category. ;-)
>
>
> On 6/4/2010 5:50 AM, Rene Felker wrote:
>> RG-400. I ordered 100 feet and had to get more for the transponder
>> cable because I ran out. Again, it is a long way out to the wing
>> tip...and don't forget those maintenance loops...
>>
>> Rene' Felker
>>
>> N423CF
>>
>> 801-721-6080
>>
>> *
>> *
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: HID Landing Lights |
I put in bilateral Duckworks 50w in the leading edge of wings--great light--during
day towers think it's a turbo airline arriving. No RF problem. I think in
retrospect I would have also put in Vans landing lights in the wing tips --I
don't think you can have too much light--I fly off grass and at night any extra
light is helpful. Advantage of lights in leading edge is that the wing tip
lights get shadowed by the wing itself and don't do as good a job for landing.
IMHO larry
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Subject: | Re: HID Landing Lights |
I'll jump in here with my 2 cents. I have a set of the Plane Lights HIDs in my
tips. Each tip also has Bob Archer ants for VOR only.
The ballasts are easy to mount. The power connector to the ballast certainly won't
match Vans anything so expect to splice one side of the connector to whatever
existing wiring you have.
The ballast high tension output wire carries K-Volts and comes with special shielding
and connectors. The output pigtail is maybe 12" and includes a hard-to-mount
inline black rectangular plastic box. I RTV'ed the external box to the rib.
I may go back and add an additional support bracket before flying.
I don't recall my lights coming with any directions, but that may have changed
since as it's been a while.
Be warned that adding a do-it-yourself splice to extend the output side wire length
is asking for trouble down the road (don't ask, but thanks for pointing that
out Bob). 3 foot long wire extensions are available from the vendor, but you
really don't need them if you mount the ballast far enough forward on the outboard
rib.
The HID bulb assembly is a drop in replacement into the Vans standard lighting
mount. The assembly includes integrated bulb, reflector, ceramic mount, ~8" high
tension wires and special connectors. The bulb itself is not removable from
the rest of the assembly.
The lights work as advertised. Bright as heck. I'm not flying and haven't hooked
up radios so the jury is out on how well the solution works. Can always pull
them out if the HF interferes with other electro-goodies.
Jay
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Subject: | Re: HID Landing Lights |
Please consider either skipping the high-speed taxi, or plan and be
prepared that it might very well be your first flight. The plane
accelerates very rapidly, and could easily surprise you into getting
above lift off speed. IIRC the EAA now advocates against high speed taxi
tests due to significant number of mishaps.
On 6/4/2010 5:51 AM, Richard Barnes wrote:
>
> We had the DAR inspection a few weeks ago, High speed taxi test
> this weekend and first flight next week.
>
> Rick Barnes
>
> Mike Howe
>
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Subject: | HID Landing Lights |
Thanks for the insight. I noticed during the transition training the plane
wants to fly at very low speeds.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 8:04 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: HID Landing Lights
Please consider either skipping the high-speed taxi, or plan and be
prepared that it might very well be your first flight. The plane
accelerates very rapidly, and could easily surprise you into getting
above lift off speed. IIRC the EAA now advocates against high speed taxi
tests due to significant number of mishaps.
On 6/4/2010 5:51 AM, Richard Barnes wrote:
>
> We had the DAR inspection a few weeks ago, High speed taxi test
> this weekend and first flight next week.
>
> Rick Barnes
>
> Mike Howe
>
> *
> *
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Subject: | UREM38E Plugs For Sale |
12 Autolite UREM38E Spark Plugs with 120hr. on them in good shape for
$120.00 plus $15.00 S&H. I have pictures and contact me direct with
email or 239-567-2271. Do Not Archive
Barry Marz
18735 Baseleg AVE.
FT. Myers, Fl 33917
239-567-2271
blalmarz@embarqmail.com
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Hey Matt,
This is the first time I've gotten this. Is anybody else getting this? Has it
happened before? Any way to prevent it? See below:
"My name is miss Nina, i'm a free minded, open hearted girl i like to take life
as easy as i could, i'm one of the few that still belives in friendship, love,
trust and signs, am very much single and was browsing through the forums.matronics.com
and came across your contact belive me i like what i see, it will be
my sincere pleasure to be your friend if you don't mind, i hope you will not
take my request for granted, feel free to email me i will appreciate it if you
can send me some pics, i look forward to hear from you soon.
Take care.
Nina. " (mis_martha@yahoo.com)
Later, - Lew
--------
non-pilot
crazy about building
NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
Fly off completed !
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300050#300050
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Man, I thought I was the ONE she was looking for :( I was feeling so
special.
I got it too.
Sean Strasburg
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lew Gallagher" <lewgall@charter.net>
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 12:07 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Spam
>
> Hey Matt,
>
> This is the first time I've gotten this. Is anybody else getting this?
> Has it happened before? Any way to prevent it? See below:
>
> "My name is miss Nina, i'm a free minded, open hearted girl i like to take
> life as easy as i could, i'm one of the few that still belives in
> friendship, love, trust and signs, am very much single and was browsing
> through the forums.matronics.com and came across your contact belive me i
> like what i see, it will be my sincere pleasure to be your friend if you
> don't mind, i hope you will not take my request for granted, feel free to
> email me i will appreciate it if you can send me some pics, i look forward
> to hear from you soon.
> Take care.
>
> Nina. " (mis_martha@yahoo.com)
>
>
> Later, - Lew
>
> --------
> non-pilot
> crazy about building
> NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
> Fly off completed !
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300050#300050
>
>
>
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Lew,
I don't think that came from the list.
But, Nina does sound pretty hot, maybe you want
to shoot her back an email just to see if she's
nice. :)
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
Lew Gallagher wrote:
> <lewgall@charter.net>
>
> Hey Matt,
>
> This is the first time I've gotten this. Is anybody else getting
> this? Has it happened before? Any way to prevent it? See below:
>
> "My name is miss Nina, i'm a free minded, open hearted girl i like to
> take life as easy as i could, i'm one of the few that still belives
> in friendship, love, trust and signs, am very much single and was
> browsing through the forums.matronics.com and came across your
> contact belive me i like what i see, it will be my sincere pleasure
> to be your friend if you don't mind, i hope you will not take my
> request for granted, feel free to email me i will appreciate it if
> you can send me some pics, i look forward to hear from you soon. Take
> care.
>
> Nina. " (mis_martha@yahoo.com)
>
>
> Later, - Lew
>
> -------- non-pilot crazy about building NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
> Fly off completed !
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300050#300050
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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I got it too. If she had only sent that before I had prostate surgery. Oh
well...
Jack Phillips
#40610
Still working on the wings (very slowly)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Spam
Lew,
I don't think that came from the list.
But, Nina does sound pretty hot, maybe you want
to shoot her back an email just to see if she's
nice. :)
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
Lew Gallagher wrote:
> <lewgall@charter.net>
>
> Hey Matt,
>
> This is the first time I've gotten this. Is anybody else getting
> this? Has it happened before? Any way to prevent it? See below:
>
> "My name is miss Nina, i'm a free minded, open hearted girl i like to
> take life as easy as i could, i'm one of the few that still belives
> in friendship, love, trust and signs, am very much single and was
> browsing through the forums.matronics.com and came across your
> contact belive me i like what i see, it will be my sincere pleasure
> to be your friend if you don't mind, i hope you will not take my
> request for granted, feel free to email me i will appreciate it if
> you can send me some pics, i look forward to hear from you soon. Take
> care.
>
> Nina. " (mis_martha@yahoo.com)
>
>
> Later, - Lew
>
> -------- non-pilot crazy about building NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
> Fly off completed !
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300050#300050
>
>
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Or maybe see if she has a degree in aeronautical engineering?
No I said "BUCKING Bar"
Please Do Not Archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Spam
Lew,
I don't think that came from the list.
But, Nina does sound pretty hot, maybe you want
to shoot her back an email just to see if she's
nice. :)
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
Lew Gallagher wrote:
> <lewgall@charter.net>
>
> Hey Matt,
>
> This is the first time I've gotten this. Is anybody else getting
> this? Has it happened before? Any way to prevent it? See below:
>
> "My name is miss Nina, i'm a free minded, open hearted girl i like to
> take life as easy as i could, i'm one of the few that still belives
> in friendship, love, trust and signs, am very much single and was
> browsing through the forums.matronics.com and came across your
> contact belive me i like what i see, it will be my sincere pleasure
> to be your friend if you don't mind, i hope you will not take my
> request for granted, feel free to email me i will appreciate it if
> you can send me some pics, i look forward to hear from you soon. Take
> care.
>
> Nina. " (mis_martha@yahoo.com)
>
>
> Later, - Lew
>
> -------- non-pilot crazy about building NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
> Fly off completed !
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300050#300050
>
>
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Hey now! That was uncalled for!!! :-D
Rhonda
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 1:45 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Spam
Or maybe see if she has a degree in aeronautical engineering?
No I said "BUCKING Bar"
Please Do Not Archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Spam
Lew,
I don't think that came from the list.
But, Nina does sound pretty hot, maybe you want
to shoot her back an email just to see if she's
nice. :)
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
Lew Gallagher wrote:
> <lewgall@charter.net>
>
> Hey Matt,
>
> This is the first time I've gotten this. Is anybody else getting
> this? Has it happened before? Any way to prevent it? See below:
>
> "My name is miss Nina, i'm a free minded, open hearted girl i like to
> take life as easy as i could, i'm one of the few that still belives
> in friendship, love, trust and signs, am very much single and was
> browsing through the forums.matronics.com and came across your
> contact belive me i like what i see, it will be my sincere pleasure
> to be your friend if you don't mind, i hope you will not take my
> request for granted, feel free to email me i will appreciate it if
> you can send me some pics, i look forward to hear from you soon. Take
> care.
>
> Nina. " (mis_martha@yahoo.com)
>
>
> Later, - Lew
>
> -------- non-pilot crazy about building NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
> Fly off completed !
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300050#300050
>
>
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Nina kept telling me all those other guys were 'just friends.'
I believed her - till now.
Albert Gardner
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