---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 06/04/10: 21 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:04 AM - Re: Bulk Wire Order (davidsoutpost@comcast.net) 2. 05:45 AM - Re: Bulk Wire Order (Jesse Saint) 3. 05:55 AM - Re: Bulk Wire Order (Rene Felker) 4. 05:56 AM - Re: HID Landing Lights (Richard Barnes) 5. 06:06 AM - Re: Bulk Wire Order (Kelly McMullen) 6. 06:13 AM - Re: Bulk Wire Order (Rene Felker) 7. 06:22 AM - Re: Bulk Wire Order (Rene Felker) 8. 06:38 AM - Re: Bulk Wire Order (Tim Olson) 9. 06:40 AM - Re: HID Landing Lights (lbgjb10) 10. 06:50 AM - Re: HID Landing Lights (jayb) 11. 07:04 AM - Re: HID Landing Lights (Kelly McMullen) 12. 07:22 AM - Re: HID Landing Lights (Richard Barnes) 13. 07:42 AM - UREM38E Plugs For Sale (Barry Marz) 14. 11:08 AM - Spam (Lew Gallagher) 15. 11:33 AM - Re: Spam (Seano) 16. 11:34 AM - Re: Spam (Tim Olson) 17. 11:42 AM - Re: Spam (Jack Phillips) 18. 11:51 AM - Re: Spam (Robin Marks) 19. 11:52 AM - Re: Spam (Perry, Phil) 20. 12:02 PM - Re: Spam (Rhonda Bewley) 21. 12:48 PM - Re: Spam (Albert Gardner) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:04:09 AM PST US From: davidsoutpost@comcast.net Subject: Re: RV10-List: Bulk Wire Order If you have not tried SteinAir, they are competitive on pricing and offer e xcellent customer service. http://www.steinair.com/store.htm David Clifford RV-10 Builder 65% Done-95% To Go N849RV (reserved) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Perry" Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2010 11:12:01 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RV10-List: Bulk Wire Order Ever since the baby showed up about a month ago, my airplane building time has gone in the drink. But last weekend I fortunately found ~2 hours to wor k on the airplane, so hopefully we=99re getting back on track. I=99m getting ready to place a bulk wire order and I=99m curiou s what sizes seem to be the ones used most? I=99m hoping to standardi ze on 3-4 sizes and use the next largest size; even if it=99s not the smallest size capable of the load. This way I can minimize how many spools I need to buy and store in the garage. Anyone have any recommendations on the sizes they used the most? Phil == ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:45:04 AM PST US From: Jesse Saint Subject: Re: RV10-List: Bulk Wire Order I personally like to use the correct size for each application to balance weight and safety. Using a wire that's too big for the application only adds weight. I understand the desire to save space, but you can get a wire spool holder that holds 8 spools of wire in a very small space. I have a friend that bought one at Lowes, I think, but I'm not sure. I actually built a wire cart, which would obviously take too much space. Another thing I like to do is use different colors as much as possible. I always use Red for power and Black for ground, of which I use mostly 18AWG, but also use a fair bit of 16AWG and 20AWG. I usually use another color for signal wires that don't actually carry power amperage, and I usually use 22AWG for this. For wires like Master and Starter, I usually use Yellow 18AWG. For Trim Servos I usually use a 3-conductor Shielded wire and a 2-conductor Shielded wire, since the servo(s) need 5 wires. Using different color wires make it much easier to trace a wire through a bundle when (not if) you have to do repairs down the road. I also like to use Stein's auto pilot servo bundle for the auto pilot servos, but I've also done that with the shielded multi-conductor wire plus red and black or with just individual wires of different colors. I also use a decent amount of 14AWG for landing lights (when HID) and for E-Bus and Backup Bus when using Vertical Power. You'll also need some 2AWG for power and starter main wires and 8AWG for Alternator and Bus wires. Or, you could just get white 22, 20, 18, 16, 8 and 2 and make a nightmare for yourself down the road when it comes time to modify or repair. I don't recommend this. The wire bundles might look nicer this way, but they are a pain to deal with. Oh, on the multi-conductor shielded wire, I recommend using no smaller than 22AWG. 24 is a pain to work with and 26 is rediculous, IMHO. The added weight of going to 22 is negligible for the small amount needed. This is all assuming a 12-Volt system. That's my $.02 Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 On Jun 3, 2010, at 11:12 PM, Perry, Phil wrote: > Ever since the baby showed up about a month ago, my airplane building time has gone in the drink. But last weekend I fortunately found ~2 hours to work on the airplane, so hopefully we=92re getting back on track. > > I=92m getting ready to place a bulk wire order and I=92m curious what sizes seem to be the ones used most? I=92m hoping to standardize on 3-4 sizes and use the next largest size; even if it=92s not the smallest size capable of the load. This way I can minimize how many spools I need to buy and store in the garage. > > Anyone have any recommendations on the sizes they used the most? > > Phil > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:55:33 AM PST US From: "Rene Felker" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Bulk Wire Order I went with a very similar list from Stein. But ordered extra 22 and 18, 5 different colors (Red, Green, Black, White, Yellow), 100 feet each. I have some left, but NOT some of each color. I did not wire my own panel, but...there is a lot of wire outside the panel. For example, the wing is a little over 12 feet long, from the wing root to the back of the panel (or strobe power supply) lets say it is 6 feet depending on routing..that makes each run about 19' so far.you will need a maintenance loop (unless you are putting in connectors), let's say 3'. So each run out to the wing tip will be 22 feet. Now since you don't want to come up short, better add a few feet for good measure. So lets just say, for a budget number you will need 30' feet per run out to the wing tips. This may be a little overkill, but you will be surprised at how much wire you end up using. RG-400. I ordered 100 feet and had to get more for the transponder cable because I ran out. Again, it is a long way out to the wing tip...and don't forget those maintenance loops... Rene' Felker N423CF 801-721-6080 From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pascal Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 9:36 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Bulk Wire Order Here is something from my archives from Stein. Sending the whole message but stick with the wires section only, worry about the BNC after you have the panel figured out. -------------- Stick with the standard M22759/16 Tefzel wire...don't bother with teflon, silver plated, etc...or surplus stuff (you never know what you're getting). Also, if you spend more than a few hours "hunting" for a deal, you've just wasted enough time to buy what you want and what you need brand new. Depending on what you're doing with the plane and panel, buy at least the following initially: 200' AWG22 200' AWG18 150' AWG16 50' AWG20 50' AWG14 25' AWG12 25' AWG10 100' RG-400 Coax a dozen male BNC's, a half dozen female BNC's, a couple hundred PIDG ring terminals, and some heatshrink. Now, depending on if you want colors or not you can split all that up. The above wiring amounts could vary pretty significantly depending on if you're wiring your own panel or not, whether you're going full boat on lighting, radios, IFR/VFR, etc.. I wouldn't waste my time buying whole spools then trying to sell the surplus. Heck, wire is relatively cheap, we're talking about something that costs pennies per foot...you'll only spend a couple/few hundred bucks of wire total. Why waste your time goofing around.......figure out what you need, what colors you want and just buy it. As someone who regularly buys wire in 10,000' - 20,000' spools and keeps over a half million feet of wire "hanging around", I can tell you playing with spools to save a few percent is a waste of time on an item like this, for one airplane. With your Avionics or engine it's a different story because you can save a lot of dough, but in the wiring it's such a cheap item to begin with that it's not worth much effort to save a buck. Just my 2 cents as usual! Cheers, Stein. -------------------- Pascal From: Perry, Phil Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 8:12 PM Subject: RV10-List: Bulk Wire Order Ever since the baby showed up about a month ago, my airplane building time has gone in the drink. But last weekend I fortunately found ~2 hours to work on the airplane, so hopefully we're getting back on track. I'm getting ready to place a bulk wire order and I'm curious what sizes seem to be the ones used most? I'm hoping to standardize on 3-4 sizes and use the next largest size; even if it's not the smallest size capable of the load. This way I can minimize how many spools I need to buy and store in the garage. Anyone have any recommendations on the sizes they used the most? Phil href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:56:39 AM PST US From: "Richard Barnes" Subject: RE: RV10-List: HID Landing Lights We also bought the Planelights 50W lights. Although we haven't flown yet, they seem to be much brighter than the stock Van's lights. We bought them last year and when we went to install them, last month, one of the lights didn't work. I called Planelights and they sent me a new light, no questions asked. Great service!!! We had the DAR inspection a few weeks ago, the instruments passed IFR, and the engine started on the first turn. High speed taxi test this weekend and first flight next week. Rick Barnes Mike Howe From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DLM Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 4:42 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: HID Landing Lights also mine run much cooler than the halogen. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Saylor Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 2:55 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: HID Landing Lights I'm using the 50W lights in my wingtips too. I'm also using the XeVision wig wag. Works like a champ. I have Archer antennas in the tips, comm 2 on the right, nav 1&2 on the left. The lights and the antennas don't play well together. The antennas pick up a lot of noise from the lights. When I remove a wingtip and separate the components, all is well. I tried all the suggestions that Rigid had: isolated the transformer, grounded the transformer case, shielded the lights, various combinations and other things as well. No luck. The good news is that the lights are so awesome that I can live with the problem. They make the halogens look just plain silly. The navs work within about 5 miles of the station, and if I really need comm2 I can shut the lights off. BTW, don't put any dark colored flammable materials within about 10" of the lamp... Dave Saylor AirCrafters 140 Aviation Way Watsonville, CA 95076 831-722-9141 Shop 831-750-0284 Cell On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:47 PM, DLM wrote: My aircraft is the one shown on the website. http://www.planelights.com/index.php?id=661 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Albert Gardner" Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 12:03 PM Subject: RV10-List: HID Landing Lights I was very unhappy with the standard wing tip landing lights because they were not very bright and did not light up the yellow strip in front of the plane. I bought a pair of HID Lights from Rigid Industries of Arizona, Mesa, AZ and they work very, very well. Direct replacement for Vans lamps, and the power supply is small and easily mounts to the last rib. Very bright and lights up the area directly in front. Tower says I look like an airliner on approach. Albert Gardner N991RV Yuma, AZ ========== arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List ========== http://forums.matronics.com ========== le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ========== href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:06:39 AM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV10-List: Bulk Wire Order While RG-400 looks and sounds sexy, I personally don't see the advantage of using it for nav antennas, and benefit for comm antennas is probably marginal. I can see using it for transponder and GPS antennas. All of the RG-58 in my Mooney is at least 20 yrs old, and radios still work fine. That extra $1.50 a foot sure adds up in a hurry. Opinion over on Aero-electric list recently was minimal difference for normal VHF stuff. I guess that puts it in the primer discussion category. ;-) On 6/4/2010 5:50 AM, Rene Felker wrote: > > RG-400. I ordered 100 feet and had to get more for the transponder > cable because I ran out. Again, it is a long way out to the wing > tip..and dont forget those maintenance loops. > > Rene' Felker > > N423CF > > 801-721-6080 > > * > * ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:13:48 AM PST US From: "Rene Felker" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Bulk Wire Order I forgot something.. Crimp tools, pins, connectors...etc. I did not wire my panel, but did need plenty of these. Stein sells a great crimper and all the parts you need to make good connections. Rene' Felker N423CF 801-721-6080 From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 6:50 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Bulk Wire Order I went with a very similar list from Stein. But ordered extra 22 and 18, 5 different colors (Red, Green, Black, White, Yellow), 100 feet each. I have some left, but NOT some of each color. I did not wire my own panel, but...there is a lot of wire outside the panel. For example, the wing is a little over 12 feet long, from the wing root to the back of the panel (or strobe power supply) lets say it is 6 feet depending on routing..that makes each run about 19' so far.you will need a maintenance loop (unless you are putting in connectors), let's say 3'. So each run out to the wing tip will be 22 feet. Now since you don't want to come up short, better add a few feet for good measure. So lets just say, for a budget number you will need 30' feet per run out to the wing tips. This may be a little overkill, but you will be surprised at how much wire you end up using. RG-400. I ordered 100 feet and had to get more for the transponder cable because I ran out. Again, it is a long way out to the wing tip...and don't forget those maintenance loops... Rene' Felker N423CF 801-721-6080 From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pascal Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 9:36 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Bulk Wire Order Here is something from my archives from Stein. Sending the whole message but stick with the wires section only, worry about the BNC after you have the panel figured out. -------------- Stick with the standard M22759/16 Tefzel wire...don't bother with teflon, silver plated, etc...or surplus stuff (you never know what you're getting). Also, if you spend more than a few hours "hunting" for a deal, you've just wasted enough time to buy what you want and what you need brand new. Depending on what you're doing with the plane and panel, buy at least the following initially: 200' AWG22 200' AWG18 150' AWG16 50' AWG20 50' AWG14 25' AWG12 25' AWG10 100' RG-400 Coax a dozen male BNC's, a half dozen female BNC's, a couple hundred PIDG ring terminals, and some heatshrink. Now, depending on if you want colors or not you can split all that up. The above wiring amounts could vary pretty significantly depending on if you're wiring your own panel or not, whether you're going full boat on lighting, radios, IFR/VFR, etc.. I wouldn't waste my time buying whole spools then trying to sell the surplus. Heck, wire is relatively cheap, we're talking about something that costs pennies per foot...you'll only spend a couple/few hundred bucks of wire total. Why waste your time goofing around.......figure out what you need, what colors you want and just buy it. As someone who regularly buys wire in 10,000' - 20,000' spools and keeps over a half million feet of wire "hanging around", I can tell you playing with spools to save a few percent is a waste of time on an item like this, for one airplane. With your Avionics or engine it's a different story because you can save a lot of dough, but in the wiring it's such a cheap item to begin with that it's not worth much effort to save a buck. Just my 2 cents as usual! Cheers, Stein. -------------------- Pascal From: Perry, Phil Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 8:12 PM Subject: RV10-List: Bulk Wire Order Ever since the baby showed up about a month ago, my airplane building time has gone in the drink. But last weekend I fortunately found ~2 hours to work on the airplane, so hopefully we're getting back on track. I'm getting ready to place a bulk wire order and I'm curious what sizes seem to be the ones used most? I'm hoping to standardize on 3-4 sizes and use the next largest size; even if it's not the smallest size capable of the load. This way I can minimize how many spools I need to buy and store in the garage. Anyone have any recommendations on the sizes they used the most? Phil href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:22:02 AM PST US From: "Rene Felker" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Bulk Wire Order I prefer the "sexy" cable, lord knows my body does not fit that description (sexy). As far as function???????, I don't know and I am not advocating the use of 400 over anything else. My estimate is that is cost me an extra $200 to use the 400. It does pull easy. :) Do not archive Rene' Felker N423CF 801-721-6080 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 7:06 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Bulk Wire Order While RG-400 looks and sounds sexy, I personally don't see the advantage of using it for nav antennas, and benefit for comm antennas is probably marginal. I can see using it for transponder and GPS antennas. All of the RG-58 in my Mooney is at least 20 yrs old, and radios still work fine. That extra $1.50 a foot sure adds up in a hurry. Opinion over on Aero-electric list recently was minimal difference for normal VHF stuff. I guess that puts it in the primer discussion category. ;-) On 6/4/2010 5:50 AM, Rene Felker wrote: > > RG-400. I ordered 100 feet and had to get more for the transponder > cable because I ran out. Again, it is a long way out to the wing > tip...and don't forget those maintenance loops... > > Rene' Felker > > N423CF > > 801-721-6080 > > * > * ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:38:36 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Bulk Wire Order With the teflon construction and all, if it's not soaked in water or banged up on the ends, it should be a "forever" wire. As Rene' says, it slides and pulls real easily. I may take a very different view than some, but I don't mind spending a little more on some of this stuff for the RV-10 if it means it's done to the highest standard and will outlast me. It's been very nice over the past 4+ years to find that having everything start off as new has proved to make most things pretty trouble-free. Man, I sure don't miss the days of KX-170B's, fiber-wrapped wires, and all the aged stuff you get with a 25+ year old airframe. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive Rene Felker wrote: > > I prefer the "sexy" cable, lord knows my body does not fit that description > (sexy). As far as function???????, I don't know and I am not advocating the > use of 400 over anything else. My estimate is that is cost me an extra $200 > to use the 400. > > It does pull easy. :) > > Do not archive > > Rene' Felker > N423CF > 801-721-6080 > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen > Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 7:06 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Bulk Wire Order > > > While RG-400 looks and sounds sexy, I personally don't see the advantage > of using it for nav antennas, and benefit for comm antennas is probably > marginal. I can see using it for transponder and GPS antennas. All of > the RG-58 in my Mooney is at least 20 yrs old, and radios still work > fine. That extra $1.50 a foot sure adds up in a hurry. Opinion over on > Aero-electric list recently was minimal difference for normal VHF stuff. > I guess that puts it in the primer discussion category. ;-) > > > On 6/4/2010 5:50 AM, Rene Felker wrote: >> RG-400. I ordered 100 feet and had to get more for the transponder >> cable because I ran out. Again, it is a long way out to the wing >> tip...and don't forget those maintenance loops... >> >> Rene' Felker >> >> N423CF >> >> 801-721-6080 >> >> * >> * > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:40:22 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: HID Landing Lights From: "lbgjb10" I put in bilateral Duckworks 50w in the leading edge of wings--great light--during day towers think it's a turbo airline arriving. No RF problem. I think in retrospect I would have also put in Vans landing lights in the wing tips --I don't think you can have too much light--I fly off grass and at night any extra light is helpful. Advantage of lights in leading edge is that the wing tip lights get shadowed by the wing itself and don't do as good a job for landing. IMHO larry -------- Larry and Gayle N104LG Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300011#300011 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:50:26 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: HID Landing Lights From: "jayb" I'll jump in here with my 2 cents. I have a set of the Plane Lights HIDs in my tips. Each tip also has Bob Archer ants for VOR only. The ballasts are easy to mount. The power connector to the ballast certainly won't match Vans anything so expect to splice one side of the connector to whatever existing wiring you have. The ballast high tension output wire carries K-Volts and comes with special shielding and connectors. The output pigtail is maybe 12" and includes a hard-to-mount inline black rectangular plastic box. I RTV'ed the external box to the rib. I may go back and add an additional support bracket before flying. I don't recall my lights coming with any directions, but that may have changed since as it's been a while. Be warned that adding a do-it-yourself splice to extend the output side wire length is asking for trouble down the road (don't ask, but thanks for pointing that out Bob). 3 foot long wire extensions are available from the vendor, but you really don't need them if you mount the ballast far enough forward on the outboard rib. The HID bulb assembly is a drop in replacement into the Vans standard lighting mount. The assembly includes integrated bulb, reflector, ceramic mount, ~8" high tension wires and special connectors. The bulb itself is not removable from the rest of the assembly. The lights work as advertised. Bright as heck. I'm not flying and haven't hooked up radios so the jury is out on how well the solution works. Can always pull them out if the HF interferes with other electro-goodies. Jay Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300012#300012 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:04:18 AM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV10-List: HID Landing Lights Please consider either skipping the high-speed taxi, or plan and be prepared that it might very well be your first flight. The plane accelerates very rapidly, and could easily surprise you into getting above lift off speed. IIRC the EAA now advocates against high speed taxi tests due to significant number of mishaps. On 6/4/2010 5:51 AM, Richard Barnes wrote: > > We had the DAR inspection a few weeks ago, High speed taxi test > this weekend and first flight next week. > > Rick Barnes > > Mike Howe > > * > * ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:22:52 AM PST US From: "Richard Barnes" Subject: RE: RV10-List: HID Landing Lights Thanks for the insight. I noticed during the transition training the plane wants to fly at very low speeds. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 8:04 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: HID Landing Lights Please consider either skipping the high-speed taxi, or plan and be prepared that it might very well be your first flight. The plane accelerates very rapidly, and could easily surprise you into getting above lift off speed. IIRC the EAA now advocates against high speed taxi tests due to significant number of mishaps. On 6/4/2010 5:51 AM, Richard Barnes wrote: > > We had the DAR inspection a few weeks ago, High speed taxi test > this weekend and first flight next week. > > Rick Barnes > > Mike Howe > > * > * ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:42:56 AM PST US From: Barry Marz Subject: RV10-List: UREM38E Plugs For Sale 12 Autolite UREM38E Spark Plugs with 120hr. on them in good shape for $120.00 plus $15.00 S&H. I have pictures and contact me direct with email or 239-567-2271. Do Not Archive Barry Marz 18735 Baseleg AVE. FT. Myers, Fl 33917 239-567-2271 blalmarz@embarqmail.com ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:08:38 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Spam From: "Lew Gallagher" Hey Matt, This is the first time I've gotten this. Is anybody else getting this? Has it happened before? Any way to prevent it? See below: "My name is miss Nina, i'm a free minded, open hearted girl i like to take life as easy as i could, i'm one of the few that still belives in friendship, love, trust and signs, am very much single and was browsing through the forums.matronics.com and came across your contact belive me i like what i see, it will be my sincere pleasure to be your friend if you don't mind, i hope you will not take my request for granted, feel free to email me i will appreciate it if you can send me some pics, i look forward to hear from you soon. Take care. Nina. " (mis_martha@yahoo.com) Later, - Lew -------- non-pilot crazy about building NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 Fly off completed ! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300050#300050 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 11:33:39 AM PST US From: "Seano" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Spam Man, I thought I was the ONE she was looking for :( I was feeling so special. I got it too. Sean Strasburg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lew Gallagher" Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 12:07 PM Subject: RV10-List: Spam > > Hey Matt, > > This is the first time I've gotten this. Is anybody else getting this? > Has it happened before? Any way to prevent it? See below: > > "My name is miss Nina, i'm a free minded, open hearted girl i like to take > life as easy as i could, i'm one of the few that still belives in > friendship, love, trust and signs, am very much single and was browsing > through the forums.matronics.com and came across your contact belive me i > like what i see, it will be my sincere pleasure to be your friend if you > don't mind, i hope you will not take my request for granted, feel free to > email me i will appreciate it if you can send me some pics, i look forward > to hear from you soon. > Take care. > > Nina. " (mis_martha@yahoo.com) > > > Later, - Lew > > -------- > non-pilot > crazy about building > NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 > Fly off completed ! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300050#300050 > > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 11:34:16 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Spam Lew, I don't think that came from the list. But, Nina does sound pretty hot, maybe you want to shoot her back an email just to see if she's nice. :) Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive Lew Gallagher wrote: > > > Hey Matt, > > This is the first time I've gotten this. Is anybody else getting > this? Has it happened before? Any way to prevent it? See below: > > "My name is miss Nina, i'm a free minded, open hearted girl i like to > take life as easy as i could, i'm one of the few that still belives > in friendship, love, trust and signs, am very much single and was > browsing through the forums.matronics.com and came across your > contact belive me i like what i see, it will be my sincere pleasure > to be your friend if you don't mind, i hope you will not take my > request for granted, feel free to email me i will appreciate it if > you can send me some pics, i look forward to hear from you soon. Take > care. > > Nina. " (mis_martha@yahoo.com) > > > Later, - Lew > > -------- non-pilot crazy about building NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 > Fly off completed ! > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300050#300050 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 11:42:12 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Spam I got it too. If she had only sent that before I had prostate surgery. Oh well... Jack Phillips #40610 Still working on the wings (very slowly) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 2:34 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Spam Lew, I don't think that came from the list. But, Nina does sound pretty hot, maybe you want to shoot her back an email just to see if she's nice. :) Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive Lew Gallagher wrote: > > > Hey Matt, > > This is the first time I've gotten this. Is anybody else getting > this? Has it happened before? Any way to prevent it? See below: > > "My name is miss Nina, i'm a free minded, open hearted girl i like to > take life as easy as i could, i'm one of the few that still belives > in friendship, love, trust and signs, am very much single and was > browsing through the forums.matronics.com and came across your > contact belive me i like what i see, it will be my sincere pleasure > to be your friend if you don't mind, i hope you will not take my > request for granted, feel free to email me i will appreciate it if > you can send me some pics, i look forward to hear from you soon. Take > care. > > Nina. " (mis_martha@yahoo.com) > > > Later, - Lew > > -------- non-pilot crazy about building NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 > Fly off completed ! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300050#300050 > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 11:51:48 AM PST US From: Robin Marks Subject: RE: RV10-List: Spam Or maybe see if she has a degree in aeronautical engineering? No I said "BUCKING Bar" Please Do Not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 11:34 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Spam Lew, I don't think that came from the list. But, Nina does sound pretty hot, maybe you want to shoot her back an email just to see if she's nice. :) Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive Lew Gallagher wrote: > > > Hey Matt, > > This is the first time I've gotten this. Is anybody else getting > this? Has it happened before? Any way to prevent it? See below: > > "My name is miss Nina, i'm a free minded, open hearted girl i like to > take life as easy as i could, i'm one of the few that still belives > in friendship, love, trust and signs, am very much single and was > browsing through the forums.matronics.com and came across your > contact belive me i like what i see, it will be my sincere pleasure > to be your friend if you don't mind, i hope you will not take my > request for granted, feel free to email me i will appreciate it if > you can send me some pics, i look forward to hear from you soon. Take > care. > > Nina. " (mis_martha@yahoo.com) > > > Later, - Lew > > -------- non-pilot crazy about building NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 > Fly off completed ! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300050#300050 > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 11:52:29 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Spam From: "Perry, Phil" VG9vIGxhdGUuIA0KDQpJIHRvb2sgaGVyIHRvIE9zaGtvc2ggbGFzdCB5ZWFyLiAgOikNCg0KDQoN Ci0tLS0tIE9yaWdpbmFsIE1lc3NhZ2UgLS0tLS0NCkZyb206IFNlYW5vIDxzZWFuQGJyYXVuYW5k Y28uY29tPg0KVG86IHJ2MTAtbGlzdEBtYXRyb25pY3MuY29tIDxydjEwLWxpc3RAbWF0cm9uaWNz LmNvbT4NClNlbnQ6IEZyaSBKdW4gMDQgMTE6MTQ6MTMgMjAxMA0KU3ViamVjdDogUmU6IFJWMTAt TGlzdDogU3BhbQ0KDQotLT4gUlYxMC1MaXN0IG1lc3NhZ2UgcG9zdGVkIGJ5OiAiU2Vhbm8iIDxz ZWFuQGJyYXVuYW5kY28uY29tPg0KDQpNYW4sIEkgdGhvdWdodCBJIHdhcyB0aGUgT05FIHNoZSB3 YXMgbG9va2luZyBmb3IgIDooICBJIHdhcyBmZWVsaW5nIHNvIA0Kc3BlY2lhbC4NCg0KSSBnb3Qg aXQgdG9vLg0KDQoNClNlYW4gU3RyYXNidXJnDQoNCi0tLS0tIE9yaWdpbmFsIE1lc3NhZ2UgLS0t LS0gDQpGcm9tOiAiTGV3IEdhbGxhZ2hlciIgPGxld2dhbGxAY2hhcnRlci5uZXQ+DQpUbzogPHJ2 MTAtbGlzdEBtYXRyb25pY3MuY29tPg0KU2VudDogRnJpZGF5LCBKdW5lIDA0LCAyMDEwIDEyOjA3 IFBNDQpTdWJqZWN0OiBSVjEwLUxpc3Q6IFNwYW0NCg0KDQo+IC0tPiBSVjEwLUxpc3QgbWVzc2Fn ZSBwb3N0ZWQgYnk6ICJMZXcgR2FsbGFnaGVyIiA8bGV3Z2FsbEBjaGFydGVyLm5ldD4NCj4NCj4g SGV5IE1hdHQsDQo+DQo+IFRoaXMgaXMgdGhlIGZpcnN0IHRpbWUgSSd2ZSBnb3R0ZW4gdGhpcy4g IElzIGFueWJvZHkgZWxzZSBnZXR0aW5nIHRoaXM/IA0KPiBIYXMgaXQgaGFwcGVuZWQgYmVmb3Jl PyAgQW55IHdheSB0byBwcmV2ZW50IGl0PyAgU2VlIGJlbG93Og0KPg0KPiAiTXkgbmFtZSBpcyBt aXNzIE5pbmEsIGknbSBhIGZyZWUgbWluZGVkLCBvcGVuIGhlYXJ0ZWQgZ2lybCBpIGxpa2UgdG8g dGFrZSANCj4gbGlmZSBhcyBlYXN5IGFzIGkgY291bGQsIGknbSBvbmUgb2YgdGhlIGZldyB0aGF0 IHN0aWxsIGJlbGl2ZXMgaW4gDQo+IGZyaWVuZHNoaXAsIGxvdmUsIHRydXN0IGFuZCBzaWducywg YW0gdmVyeSBtdWNoIHNpbmdsZSBhbmQgd2FzIGJyb3dzaW5nIA0KPiB0aHJvdWdoIHRoZSBmb3J1 bXMubWF0cm9uaWNzLmNvbSBhbmQgY2FtZSBhY3Jvc3MgeW91ciBjb250YWN0IGJlbGl2ZSBtZSBp IA0KPiBsaWtlIHdoYXQgaSBzZWUsIGl0IHdpbGwgYmUgbXkgc2luY2VyZSBwbGVhc3VyZSB0byBi ZSB5b3VyIGZyaWVuZCBpZiB5b3UgDQo+IGRvbid0IG1pbmQsIGkgaG9wZSB5b3Ugd2lsbCBub3Qg dGFrZSBteSByZXF1ZXN0IGZvciBncmFudGVkLCBmZWVsIGZyZWUgdG8gDQo+IGVtYWlsIG1lIGkg d2lsbCBhcHByZWNpYXRlIGl0IGlmIHlvdSBjYW4gc2VuZCBtZSBzb21lIHBpY3MsIGkgbG9vayBm b3J3YXJkIA0KPiB0byBoZWFyIGZyb20geW91IHNvb24uDQo+IFRha2UgY2FyZS4NCj4NCj4gTmlu YS4gIiAgICAgIChtaXNfbWFydGhhQHlhaG9vLmNvbSkNCj4NCj4NCj4gTGF0ZXIsIC0gTGV3DQo+ DQo+IC0tLS0tLS0tDQo+IG5vbi1waWxvdA0KPiBjcmF6eSBhYm91dCBidWlsZGluZw0KPiBOT1cg T0ZJQ0lBTExZIEJVSUxERVIgIzQwNTQ5DQo+IEZseSBvZmYgY29tcGxldGVkICENCj4NCj4NCj4N Cj4NCj4gUmVhZCB0aGlzIHRvcGljIG9ubGluZSBoZXJlOg0KPg0KPiBodHRwOi8vZm9ydW1zLm1h dHJvbmljcy5jb20vdmlld3RvcGljLnBocD9wPTMwMDA1MCMzMDAwNTANCj4NCj4NCj4NCj4NCj4N Cj4NCj4NCj4NCj4NCj4gDQoNCg0KXy09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09 PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT0NCl8tPSAgICAgICAgICAtIFRoZSBSVjEwLUxpc3Qg RW1haWwgRm9ydW0gLQ0KXy09IFVzZSB0aGUgTWF0cm9uaWNzIExpc3QgRmVhdHVyZXMgTmF2aWdh dG9yIHRvIGJyb3dzZQ0KXy09IHRoZSBtYW55IExpc3QgdXRpbGl0aWVzIHN1Y2ggYXMgTGlzdCBV bi9TdWJzY3JpcHRpb24sDQpfLT0gQXJjaGl2ZSBTZWFyY2ggJiBEb3dubG9hZCwgNy1EYXkgQnJv d3NlLCBDaGF0LCBGQVEsDQpfLT0gUGhvdG9zaGFyZSwgYW5kIG11Y2ggbXVjaCBtb3JlOg0KXy09 DQpfLT0gICAtLT4gaHR0cDovL3d3dy5tYXRyb25pY3MuY29tL05hdmlnYXRvcj9SVjEwLUxpc3QN Cl8tPQ0KXy09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09 PT09PT09PT09PT0NCl8tPSAgICAgICAgICAgICAgIC0gTUFUUk9OSUNTIFdFQiBGT1JVTVMgLQ0K Xy09IFNhbWUgZ3JlYXQgY29udGVudCBhbHNvIGF2YWlsYWJsZSB2aWEgdGhlIFdlYiBGb3J1bXMh DQpfLT0NCl8tPSAgIC0tPiBodHRwOi8vZm9ydW1zLm1hdHJvbmljcy5jb20NCl8tPQ0KXy09PT09 PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT0N Cl8tPSAgICAgICAgICAgICAtIExpc3QgQ29udHJpYnV0aW9uIFdlYiBTaXRlIC0NCl8tPSAgVGhh bmsgeW91IGZvciB5b3VyIGdlbmVyb3VzIHN1cHBvcnQhDQpfLT0gICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAg ICAgICAgICAgICAtTWF0dCBEcmFsbGUsIExpc3QgQWRtaW4uDQpfLT0gICAtLT4gaHR0cDovL3d3 dy5tYXRyb25pY3MuY29tL2NvbnRyaWJ1dGlvbg0KXy09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09 PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT0NCg0KDQoNCg= ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 12:02:51 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Spam From: "Rhonda Bewley" Hey now! That was uncalled for!!! :-D Rhonda -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 1:45 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Spam Or maybe see if she has a degree in aeronautical engineering? No I said "BUCKING Bar" Please Do Not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 11:34 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Spam Lew, I don't think that came from the list. But, Nina does sound pretty hot, maybe you want to shoot her back an email just to see if she's nice. :) Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive Lew Gallagher wrote: > > > Hey Matt, > > This is the first time I've gotten this. Is anybody else getting > this? Has it happened before? Any way to prevent it? See below: > > "My name is miss Nina, i'm a free minded, open hearted girl i like to > take life as easy as i could, i'm one of the few that still belives > in friendship, love, trust and signs, am very much single and was > browsing through the forums.matronics.com and came across your > contact belive me i like what i see, it will be my sincere pleasure > to be your friend if you don't mind, i hope you will not take my > request for granted, feel free to email me i will appreciate it if > you can send me some pics, i look forward to hear from you soon. Take > care. > > Nina. " (mis_martha@yahoo.com) > > > Later, - Lew > > -------- non-pilot crazy about building NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 > Fly off completed ! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300050#300050 > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 12:48:27 PM PST US From: "Albert Gardner" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Spam Nina kept telling me all those other guys were 'just friends.' I believed her - till now. 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