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1. 03:23 AM - RV-10 Kit for sale (doctornigel)
2. 07:33 AM - Re: 2010 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping (Bill Gipson)
3. 12:06 PM - Re: 2010 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping (Bob Leffler)
4. 12:24 PM - RV-10 Rear Seat Foam from Van's (Mr Luther Strickland)
5. 01:14 PM - survey (DLM)
6. 01:46 PM - Re: survey (Rene)
7. 02:26 PM - Re: survey (John Cox)
8. 05:06 PM - Comm Antennas (Les Kearney)
9. 05:38 PM - Re: 2010 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping (Scott Schmidt)
10. 07:00 PM - Re: Comm Antennas (Kelly McMullen)
11. 09:05 PM - Re: Comm Antennas (Les Kearney)
12. 09:31 PM - Re: Comm Antennas (Perry, Phil)
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| Subject: | RV-10 Kit for sale |
I am selling my RV-10 kit. I stumbled into a half lease of a Cirrus about six
months ago and now the half owner wants to sell his half and I couldnt pass it
up. My wife wants to fly rather than build. Whoever gets this will get a major
jump start on their RV-10. I am 95% finished on the emp, all parts were
aluma-preped, alodined, and epoxy primed except the skins which were spray primed.
I have unpacked and inventoried the QB fuse, the QB wing I have unpacked
and setup on a custom rolling dolly, the only work done is the pushrods and
autopilot install. Included with the wing is the dolly, Trutrak autopilot servo,
Dynon heated pitot/AOA, LED red/green position lights with HID mount, flap
positioning kit, float sensors, static plumb kit. It is a real deal if you
are close to me in East Central Florida and you can pick up. Included is also
a hybrid of Brown and Avery tools to work on your new project including extras
(ie C-frame dimpler with table, pneumatic rivet squeezer). I am selling it
all for 39K and you pickup, you will be 10K and 400 hours ahead. I am not in
financial stress to sell, Im a general dentist. If you want a great deal and want
to fly your new RV-10 sooner, send me an email at nschultz3 at cfl.rr.com.
do not archive
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300103#300103
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| Subject: | 2010 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping |
Bob=2C thanks for getting this together again this year. My wife and I are
planning our first trip to Oshkosh this year and will reserve a site in th
e RV-10HQ area as instructed below. As this will be our first Oshkosh expe
rience=2C I have no idea what the logistics at the field will be other than
we plan to get to Oshkosh on Friday or Saturday before the show. How do t
he guys get their camping stuff from RV parking to the HQ camping site. Sh
uttles=2C carry on your back..??? We are planning on arriving early in hop
es of beating the crowd and besides we want to take in the whole positive e
xperience=2C so we are staying to the end. Having a premo camp site close
to facilities with other RV10'ers will go a long way in making this a pleas
ant week. So any helpful hints on what to bring=2C what not to bring=2C et
c would be most appreciated.
Looking forward to meeting you and the other RV10 families this year.
Regards=2C
Bill Gipson
Conroe=2C Texas
281-814-6006
> Subject: RV10-List: 2010 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping
> From: bob.condrey@baesystems.com
> Date: Thu=2C 3 Jun 2010 08:23:47 -0700
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>
>
> It's getting to be that time of year because phone calls and emails have
started!
>
> Gary and I will again stake out sites for those who are interested in bei
ng in the RV-10 HQ area. In past years this has been a group of around 25 R
V-10 folks ranging from those just starting the tail kit to those that have
been flying for multiple years. Additionally we=99ve traditionally f
acilitated a couple of large cookouts where those not camping with us can a
ttend =93 typically upwards of 75-100 people including some notable v
endors.
> We will again stake out the sites on the Tuesday before Airventure starts
which is 7/20 this year. Payment is required in advance from the first nig
ht through the Sunday night at the end of Airventure which winds up being 1
3 nights. Price this year is $22 per night which comes out to $286. You can
either mail me a check (contact me offline for address) or use PayPal. Pay
Pal is much easier all the way around but there's a fee of about $9 that th
ey'll take out so if you use that service you'll need to send $295.
>
> Here=99s how it works if you=99re interested:
> Gary=2C Tim and I (and wives) simply facilitate this for the good of the
group. Cost is actual cost of the sites - this is not a profit making ventu
re. Your campsite will be in your name (I will need your EAA number) and wi
ll be paid for with a check rather than a credit card. This means if you le
ave early you will receive a check from EAA when you turn in your site regi
stration on your way out of the campgrounds. I will check with Tim to see i
f he=99s willing to once again have info on his website to facilitate
people leaving early coordinating with others coming late in the week.
>
> Summary=2C if you want a campsite with the group:
> - I need $286 from you ($295 if using PayPal) no later than 7/14/2010.
> - If using PayPal=2C please send to bcondrey at cox dot net
> - I will need your EAA number for the registration and your membership mu
st be valid through at least August 2010.
> - It would be helpful if you'd send me an email with the date you're plan
ning to arrive and leave and the type of camper (Class A=2C tent=2C etc)
> - We'll use our best judgment for the group location based on what's avai
lable when we get there but our target will be in the same area that we've
been the last few years which is immediately south of Paul=99s Park i
n Camp Scholler (around 55th and Lindbergh).
> - Sites get tagged as required using a little logic based on size of the
camper=2C tent vs. Class A motorhome=2C whether you=99ve got kids=2C
etc. If you don=99t like the location you can swap around when you ge
t there.
> - We=99ll have your car pass=2C etc. at one of our sites and you si
mply call when you get close and somebody meet you at the registration gate
.
> Most questions can be answered with the info from last year on Tim
=99s website at: www.myrv10.com/osh/Camping_FAQ.html
>
> I=99ll post more info and a reminder in a few weeks when it gets cl
oser.
>
> Bob
> RV-10 N442PM (flying)
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=299863#299863
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | 2010 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping |
Bill,
The folks that run the RV parking area have a shuttle and are more than
happy to drive folks with their camping gear to the RV-10HQ. With that
said, I don=99t know when the shuttles start running.
If the shuttle isn=99t running, just give somebody a call. All I
can share at the moment, is that some folks have been very resourceful
in providing transportation between the two areas.
This camping guide is a good resource for first timers:
http://www.upaero.com/oshkoshairshowcampingguide.pdf
The first mass arrivals usually start after lunch on Saturday. Last
year=99s cross wind made the arrival a little more entertaining
than usual.
bob
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Gipson
Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 10:31 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: 2010 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping
Bob, thanks for getting this together again this year. My wife and I
are planning our first trip to Oshkosh this year and will reserve a site
in the RV-10HQ area as instructed below. As this will be our first
Oshkosh experience, I have no idea what the logistics at the field will
be other than we plan to get to Oshkosh on Friday or Saturday before the
show. How do the guys get their camping stuff from RV parking to the HQ
camping site. Shuttles, carry on your back..??? We are planning on
arriving early in hopes of beating the crowd and besides we want to take
in the whole positive experience, so we are staying to the end. Having
a premo camp site close to facilities with other RV10'ers will go a long
way in making this a pleasant week. So any helpful hints on what to
bring, what not to bring, etc would be most appreciated.
Looking forward to meeting you and the other RV10 families this year.
Regards,
Bill Gipson
Conroe, Texas
281-814-6006
> Subject: RV10-List: 2010 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping
> From: bob.condrey@baesystems.com
> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 08:23:47 -0700
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>
<bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
>
> It's getting to be that time of year because phone calls and emails
have started!
>
> Gary and I will again stake out sites for those who are interested in
being in the RV-10 HQ area. In past years this has been a group of
around 25 RV-10 folks ranging from those just starting the tail kit to
those that have been flying for multiple years. Additionally
we=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2ve traditionally facilitated a couple of large
cookouts where those not camping with us can attend
=C3=A2=82=AC=9C typically upwards of 75-100 people including
some notable vendors.
> We will again stake out the sites on the Tuesday before Airventure
starts which is 7/20 this year. Payment is required in advance from the
first night through the Sunday night at the end of Airventure which
winds up being 13 nights. Price this year is $22 per night which comes
out to $286. You can either mail me a check (contact me offline for
address) or use PayPal. PayPal is much easier all the way around but
there's a fee of about $9 that they'll take out so if you use that
service you'll need to send $295.
>
> Here=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2s how it works if
you=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2re interested:
> Gary, Tim and I (and wives) simply facilitate this for the good of the
group. Cost is actual cost of the sites - this is not a profit making
venture. Your campsite will be in your name (I will need your EAA
number) and will be paid for with a check rather than a credit card.
This means if you leave early you will receive a check from EAA when you
turn in your site registration on your way out of the campgrounds. I
will check with Tim to see if he=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2s willing to
once again have info on his website to facilitate people leaving early
coordinating with others coming late in the week.
>
> Summary, if you want a campsite with the group:
> - I need $286 from you ($295 if using PayPal) no later than 7/14/2010.
> - If using PayPal, please send to bcondrey at cox dot net
> - I will need your EAA number for the registration and your membership
must be valid through at least August 2010.
> - It would be helpful if you'd send me an email with the date you're
planning to arrive and leave and the type of camper (Class A, tent, etc)
> - We'll use our best judgment for the group location based on what's
available when we get there but our target will be in the same area that
we've been the last few years which is immediately south of
Paul=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2s Park in Camp Scholler (around 55th and
Lindbergh).
> - Sites get tagged as required using a little logic based on size of
the camper, tent vs. Class A motorhome, whether
you=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2ve got kids, etc. If you
don=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2t like the location you can swap around when
you get there.
> - We=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2ll have your car pass, etc. at one of our
sites and you simply call when you get close and somebody meet you at
the registration gate.
> Most questions can be answered with the info from last year on
Tim=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2s website at:
www.myrv10.com/osh/Camping_FAQ.html
>
> I=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2ll post more info and a reminder in a few
weeks when it gets closer.
>
> Bob
> RV-10 N442PM (flying)
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=299863#299863
>
>
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| Subject: | RV-10 Rear Seat Foam from Van's |
I have an extra set of Vans' rear seat foam for the two seats, including the patterns.
Part number is CA SEAT SET REAR 10. The list price is $315. I will
take $215 including shipping to the lower 48 states. If you are interested please
send me a note to my work e-mail at LJS2@pge.com.
Thanks
L. Jearl Strickland
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What rpm is being used for the magneto check and what limits are
considered acceptable? magneto drop? and drop difference?
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1700 RPM
175 Max drop and 50 different
Rene'
801-721-6080
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DLM
Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 2:13 PM
Subject: RV10-List: survey
What rpm is being used for the magneto check and what limits are considered
acceptable? magneto drop? and drop difference?
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Lycoming, the manufacturer of the powerplant most builders select is the
best source of said numbers to establish a baseline. The advantage is
to determine if timing, wiring, spark or other issues are standing in
the way of making adequate horsepower output which could jeopardize safe
flight and certainly take-off. Each Builder of the RV-10 establishers
their own numbers based on their extensive research before acquiring the
coveted DAR or FAA Inspection Signoff. Choice of spark ignition
systems, compression, internal components, fuel used and other issues
can skew the use of one other builders choice.
Personally, I would run the question passed Rhonda on what the Dyno
tells her dad with the quality units that they provide. They are solid
reference sources for magneto driven powerplants.
Choice wisely.
John Cox
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene
Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 2:19 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: survey
1700 RPM
175 Max drop and 50 different
Rene'
801-721-6080
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DLM
Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 2:13 PM
Subject: RV10-List: survey
What rpm is being used for the magneto check and what limits are
considered acceptable? magneto drop? and drop difference?
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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Hi
I am planning on installing two Comant CI-122 antennas tomorrow. My plan is
to fab doublers and install the antennas / doublers just aft and inboard of
the fuse steps. My reason for this is I have inspection panels in that area
for the steps so it seems like a good choice. I am not keen on installing
anything where access is a problem.
Can anyone thing of reasons to not do what I plan? Are there better options
for these antennas?
Cheers
Les
#40643
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| Subject: | Re: 2010 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping |
I will have two trucks there Friday(before Oshkosh starts) night and can dr
ive over and shuttle people to the camping area. They shut it down to drivi
ng out there on Sunday or Monday but that is when homebuilt headquarters wi
ll shuttle people. =0AMy cell is 801-718-1277=0A=0A-Scott Schmidt =0A=0ASe
nt from my iPhone=0A=0AOn Jun 5, 2010, at 1:06 PM, "Bob Leffler" <rv@thelef
flers.com> wrote:=0A=0ABill,=0A=0A =0A=0AThe folks that run the RV parking
area have a shuttle and are more than happy to drive folks with their campi
ng gear to the RV-10HQ. With that said, I don=99t know when the shu
ttles start running.=0A=0A =0A=0AIf the shuttle isn=99t running, just
give somebody a call. All I can share at the moment, is that some folks h
ave been very resourceful in providing transportation between the two areas
.=0A=0A =0A=0AThis camping guide is a good resource for first timers: http
://www.upaero.com/oshkoshairshowcampingguide.pdf=0A=0A =0A=0AThe first mass
arrivals usually start after lunch on Saturday. Last year=99s cross
wind made the arrival a little more entertaining than usual.=0A=0A =0A=0Ab
ob=0A=0A =0A=0AFrom: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv1
0-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Gipson=0ASent: Saturday, Jun
e 05, 2010 10:31 AM=0ATo: rv10-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: RE: RV10-List:
2010 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping=0A=0A =0A=0ABob, thanks for getting this togethe
r again this year. My wife and I are planning our first trip to Oshkosh th
is year and will reserve a site in the RV-10HQ area as instructed below. A
s this will be our first Oshkosh experience, I have no idea what the logist
ics at the field will be other than we plan to get to Oshkosh on Friday or
Saturday before the show. How do the guys get their camping stuff from RV
parking to the HQ camping site. Shuttles, carry on your back..??? We are
planning on arriving early in hopes of beating the crowd and besides we wan
t to take in the whole positive experience, so we are staying to the end.
Having a premo camp site close to facilities with other RV10'ers will go a
long way in making this a pleasant week. So any helpful hints on what to b
ring, what not to bring, etc would be most appreciated. =0A =0ALooking for
ward to meeting you and the other RV10 families this year.=0A =0ARegards,
=0A =0ABill Gipson=0AConroe, Texas=0A281-814-6006=0A =0A> Subject: RV10-Lis
t: 2010 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping=0A> From: bob.condrey@baesystems.com=0A> Date:
Thu, 3 Jun 2010 08:23:47 -0700=0A> To: rv10-list@matronics.com=0A> =0A> --
=0A> It's getting to be that time of year because phone calls and emails ha
ve started! =0A> =0A> Gary and I will again stake out sites for those who a
re interested in being in the RV-10 HQ area. In past years this has been a
group of around 25 RV-10 folks ranging from those just starting the tail ki
t to those that have been flying for multiple years. Additionally we=C3=A2
=82=AC=84=A2ve traditionally facilitated a couple of large cookouts w
here those not camping with us can attend =C3=A2=82=AC=9C typicall
y upwards of 75-100 people including some notable vendors.=0A> We will agai
n stake out the sites on the Tuesday before Airventure starts which is 7/20
this year. Payment is required in advance from the first night through the
Sunday night at the end of Airventure which winds up being 13 nights. Pric
e this year is $22 per night which comes out to $286. You can either mail m
e a check (contact me offline for address) or use PayPal. PayPal is much ea
sier all the way around but there's a fee of about $9 that they'll take out
so if you use that service you'll need to send $295. =0A> =0A> Here=C3=A2
=82=AC=84=A2s how it works if you=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2re intereste
d:=0A> Gary, Tim and I (and wives) simply facilitate this for the good of t
he group. Cost is actual cost of the sites - this is not a profit making ve
nture. Your campsite will be in your name (I will need your EAA number) and
will be paid for with a check rather than a credit card. This means if you
leave early you will receive a check from EAA when you turn in your site r
egistration on your way out of the campgrounds. I will check with Tim to se
e if he=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2s willing to once again have info on his web
site to facilitate people leaving early coordinating with others coming lat
e in the week. =0A> =0A> Summary, if you want a campsite with the group:
=0A> - I need $286 from you ($295 if using PayPal) no later than 7/14/2010.
=0A> - If using PayPal, please send to bcondrey at cox dot net =0A> - I wil
l need your EAA number for the registration and your membership must be val
id through at least August 2010.=0A> - It would be helpful if you'd send me
an email with the date you're planning to arrive and leave and the type of
camper (Class A, tent, etc) =0A> - We'll use our best judgment for the gro
up location based on what's available when we get there but our target will
be in the same area that we've been the last few years which is immediatel
y south of Paul=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2s Park in Camp Scholler (around 55th
and Lindbergh).=0A> - Sites get tagged as required using a little logic ba
sed on size of the camper, tent vs. Class A motorhome, whether you=C3=A2
=82=AC=84=A2ve got kids, etc. If you don=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2t like t
he location you can swap around when you get there. =0A> - We=C3=A2=82
=AC=84=A2ll have your car pass, etc. at one of our sites and you simply
call when you get close and somebody meet you at the registration gate.=0A>
Most questions can be answered with the info from last year on Tim=C3=A2
=82=AC=84=A2s website at: www.myrv10.com/osh/Camping_FAQ.html =0A>
=0A> I=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2ll post more info and a reminder in a few wee
ks when it gets closer. =0A> =0A> Bob =0A> RV-10 N442PM (flying)=0A> =0A>
=0A> =0A> =0A> Read this topic online here:=0A> =0A> http://forums.matronic
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| Subject: | Re: Comm Antennas |
Les,
That might be a good location for one antenna. Putting two antennas within
about 2 ft of each other is not good.
I'd consider either mounting one near an access panel on underside of wing
or far enough back in the tail cone to have more than 3 ft separation
between antennas. Alternatives include a Bob Archer wingtip Com antenna, an
antenna on the top of the fuselage. The more separation you can get, the
better. Of course you also need to consider separation from your ELT antenna
and from GPS antenna.
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I am planning on installing two Comant CI-122 antennas tomorrow. My plan is
> to fab doublers and install the antennas / doublers just aft and inboard of
> the fuse steps. My reason for this is I have inspection panels in that area
> for the steps so it seems like a good choice. I am not keen on installing
> anything where access is a problem.
>
> Can anyone thing of reasons to not do what I plan? Are there better options
> for these antennas?
>
> Cheers
>
> Les
> #40643
>
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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Kelley
Is 3 ft the magic number? If so, I might be okay. I'll measure tomorrow.
Cheers
Les
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
Sent: June-05-10 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Comm Antennas
Les,
That might be a good location for one antenna. Putting two antennas within
about 2 ft of each other is not good.
I'd consider either mounting one near an access panel on underside of wing
or far enough back in the tail cone to have more than 3 ft separation
between antennas. Alternatives include a Bob Archer wingtip Com antenna, an
antenna on the top of the fuselage. The more separation you can get, the
better. Of course you also need to consider separation from your ELT antenna
and from GPS antenna.
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> wrote:
Hi
I am planning on installing two Comant CI-122 antennas tomorrow. My plan is
to fab doublers and install the antennas / doublers just aft and inboard of
the fuse steps. My reason for this is I have inspection panels in that area
for the steps so it seems like a good choice. I am not keen on installing
anything where access is a problem.
Can anyone thing of reasons to not do what I plan? Are there better options
for these antennas?
Cheers
Les
#40643
get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
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This is exactly the place where Deems installed his CI-122's.
Flip through the folder:
http://www.deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2033%20Baggage%20Area/index.html
Perhaps he can give a report.
Phil
From: Les Kearney [mailto:kearney@shaw.ca]
Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 11:00 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Comm Antennas
Kelley
Is 3 ft the magic number? If so, I might be okay. I'll measure tomorrow.
Cheers
Les
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly
McMullen
Sent: June-05-10 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Comm Antennas
Les,
That might be a good location for one antenna. Putting two antennas
within about 2 ft of each other is not good.
I'd consider either mounting one near an access panel on underside of
wing or far enough back in the tail cone to have more than 3 ft
separation between antennas. Alternatives include a Bob Archer wingtip
Com antenna, an antenna on the top of the fuselage. The more separation
you can get, the better. Of course you also need to consider separation
from your ELT antenna and from GPS antenna.
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> wrote:
Hi
I am planning on installing two Comant CI-122 antennas tomorrow. My plan
is to fab doublers and install the antennas / doublers just aft and
inboard of the fuse steps. My reason for this is I have inspection
panels in that area for the steps so it seems like a good choice. I am
not keen on installing anything where access is a problem.
Can anyone thing of reasons to not do what I plan? Are there better
options for these antennas?
Cheers
Les
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