---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 06/11/10: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:03 AM - Re: Weigh airplane? (Werner Schneider) 2. 03:24 AM - Overhead Console Question (Michael Kraus) 3. 05:30 AM - Re: Overhead Console Question (Lew Gallagher) 4. 06:58 AM - Re: Re: Overhead Console Question (Seano) 5. 07:55 AM - Re: Re: Overhead Console Question (Michael Kraus) 6. 08:20 AM - Re: Overhead Console Question (Strasnuts) 7. 12:29 PM - Re: Overhead Console Question (Linn Walters) 8. 04:33 PM - Re: Overhead Console Question (Ron B.) 9. 07:27 PM - Re: Overhead Console Question (woxofswa) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:03:06 AM PST US From: Werner Schneider Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weigh airplane? And inside a hangar where no wind affects the measurement Werner On 10.06.2010 21:13, Carl Froehlich wrote: > > > Many EAA chapters have a set of race car scales that can be borrowed. > This is really the only way to do it. Make sure you have the plane level. > > Carl > > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of > *Dawson-Townsend,Timothy > *Sent:* Thursday, June 10, 2010 2:18 PM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RV10-List: Weigh airplane? > > What have most folks done for weighing their airplane? Hire some scales > or other alternatives? > > > TDT > > Tim Dawson-Townsend > > RV-10 40025 > > tdt@aurora.aero > > 617-500-4812 (office) > > 617-905-4800 (mobile) > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:24:03 AM PST US From: Michael Kraus Subject: RV10-List: Overhead Console Question I have seen a lot of pictures regarding the full length overhead consoles, but don't recall seeing how everyone is finishing the aft end of them to the rear baggage bulkhead. On my console, the height of it covers some of the screws that hold on the upper rear baggage panel. Also the console has to have a good seal against this panel, so I am assuming this now will have to become permanent? How is everyone sealing the console to the bulkhead? I have mine cut to within 1/8" of the rear panel and was considering filling and fiberglassing it to the bulkhead, but wanted to understand what others were doing. Any help would be greatly appreciated. -Mike Kraus ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:30:05 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Overhead Console Question From: "Lew Gallagher" Hey Mike, Just a thought about sealing to the rear bulkhead. I've been roofing for the past few weekends and the "new" sealant is polyurethane in a caulk tube. Home depot is NP-1 (aluminum, black, limestone, white - 181251,181250, 181249), Lowes is PL roof and flashing sealant (black 68457). This stuff is very similar to the urethane they put windshields in cars with, creates a flexible bond that's pretty permanent but could be cut if need be -- better than silicone. Chemical guys chime in here, I just use the stuff, don't know the technical specs on it, but it bonds really well to everything. We put in headliner instead of paint -- don't know about painting polyurethane, but the joint should be inconspicuous. Later, - Lew -------- non-pilot crazy about building NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 Fly off completed ! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300926#300926 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:58:55 AM PST US From: Seano Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Overhead Console Question I used a "d" seal from mcmaster that pushes up against the rear bulkhead. It makes it possible to slide up the upper bulkhead and screw in place. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 11, 2010, at 6:29, "Lew Gallagher" wrote: > > Hey Mike, > > Just a thought about sealing to the rear bulkhead. I've been > roofing for the past few weekends and the "new" sealant is > polyurethane in a caulk tube. Home depot is NP-1 (aluminum, black, > limestone, white - 181251,181250, 181249), Lowes is PL roof and > flashing sealant (black 68457). This stuff is very similar to the > urethane they put windshields in cars with, creates a flexible bond > that's pretty permanent but could be cut if need be -- better than > silicone. > > Chemical guys chime in here, I just use the stuff, don't know the > technical specs on it, but it bonds really well to everything. We > put in headliner instead of paint -- don't know about painting > polyurethane, but the joint should be inconspicuous. > > Later, - Lew > > -------- > non-pilot > crazy about building > NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 > Fly off completed ! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300926#300926 > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:55:20 AM PST US From: Michael Kraus Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Overhead Console Question Sean, Aren't your top screws covered by the overhead console? Or do you just leave those out? Do not archive Sent from my iPhone On Jun 11, 2010, at 9:56 AM, Seano wrote: > > I used a "d" seal from mcmaster that pushes up against the rear > bulkhead. It makes it possible to slide up the upper bulkhead and > screw in place. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 11, 2010, at 6:29, "Lew Gallagher" wrote: > >> >> >> Hey Mike, >> >> Just a thought about sealing to the rear bulkhead. I've been >> roofing for the past few weekends and the "new" sealant is >> polyurethane in a caulk tube. Home depot is NP-1 (aluminum, black, >> limestone, white - 181251,181250, 181249), Lowes is PL roof and >> flashing sealant (black 68457). This stuff is very similar to the >> urethane they put windshields in cars with, creates a flexible bond >> that's pretty permanent but could be cut if need be -- better than >> silicone. >> >> Chemical guys chime in here, I just use the stuff, don't know the >> technical specs on it, but it bonds really well to everything. We >> put in headliner instead of paint -- don't know about painting >> polyurethane, but the joint should be inconspicuous. >> >> Later, - Lew >> >> -------- >> non-pilot >> crazy about building >> NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549 >> Fly off completed ! >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300926#300926 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:20:06 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Overhead Console Question From: "Strasnuts" It pushes pretty tight with the "D" seal so I leave the middle two screws out. I had two carve two small half circles out on the top of the upper bulkhead so there would be room for the duct couplers behind the overhead. -------- Cust. #40936 RV-10 SB Fuselage N801VR reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300935#300935 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:29:08 PM PST US From: Linn Walters Subject: Re: RV10-List: Overhead Console Question Michael Kraus wrote: > > I have seen a lot of pictures regarding the full length overhead consoles, but don't recall seeing how everyone is finishing the aft end of them to the rear baggage bulkhead. > Mine will have a flange on it .... will have because I'm just now getting ready to lay it up. > On my console, the height of it covers some of the screws that hold on the upper rear baggage panel. Also the console has to have a good seal against this panel, so I am assuming this now will have to become permanent? I don't think 'permanent' is a good idea. I plan on mounting mine with a couple of screws (# not yet determined) and silicone to seal it. I'm not sure yet, but I think foam door seal should work real well. Considering the surface area of the console, a little air pressure can become significant in PSI. > > > How is everyone sealing the console to the bulkhead? I have mine cut to within 1/8" of the rear panel and was considering filling and fiberglassing it to the bulkhead, but wanted to understand what others were doing. > I wouldn't seal it up permanently .... you may want to remove the bulkhead at a later date. > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > Not sure if that's help, but that's the direction I'm heading. Linn do not archive > -Mike Kraus > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:33:17 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Overhead Console Question From: "Ron B." I made a flange at the aft end on the console and used a foam gasket to seal it up. I placed a few screws through the flange into nutplates on the bulkhead. Ron Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300967#300967 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:27:53 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Overhead Console Question From: "woxofswa" I glassed mine to the bulkhead. I then put in a couple of rivets in case vibration tries to separate the glass from the metal. I wanted a tight seal for the air conditioning. I lost a couple of panel screw holes, but I am going to put an additional one on the center upright. I don't think it will be a problem. -------- Myron Nelson Mesa, AZ Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse in progress Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=300978#300978 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.