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1. 02:47 AM - Re: Door Latch Redux (Bob Leffler)
2. 06:08 AM - Re: Door Latch Redux (Seano)
3. 11:52 AM - Arlington? (Rob Kochman)
4. 12:39 PM - N52KS is now an airplane! (Dawson-Townsend,Timothy)
5. 12:41 PM - Re: Re: Door Latch Redux (Scott Schmidt)
6. 12:48 PM - Re: Door Latch Redux (johngoodman)
7. 01:09 PM - Firewall temp? (Dawson-Townsend,Timothy)
8. 01:34 PM - Re: N52KS is now an airplane! (Robin Marks)
9. 01:46 PM - Re: Door Latch Redux (Ron B.)
10. 02:03 PM - Re: N52KS is now an airplane! (Steve Stella)
11. 02:47 PM - Re: N52KS is now an airplane! (Fred Williams, M.D.)
12. 05:27 PM - Re: N52KS is now an airplane! (rv10flyer)
13. 06:24 PM - Re: N52KS is now an airplane! (Sean Stephens)
14. 08:55 PM - [RV Builders] UFO Alert - EAA 21 Club Fly-In Lunch at KEHR (Steven Eberhart)
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| Subject: | Door Latch Redux |
Ask me at OSH.
I have handles and pins from iflyrv10.com. I'm just finishing trimming the
doors and hope to have the hardware installed before OSH.
Bob
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pascal
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Door Latch Redux
Has anyone had an issue with the doors with the aftermarket pins and
aluminum versus plastic that Vans sells in their kits? I know of one builder
who upgraded his and tells me his doors close every time now without an
issue, which wasn't the case before he installed them.
From: Albert Gardner <mailto:ibspud@roadrunner.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:45 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Door Latch Redux
On the other hand:
I don't believe anyone has lost a door when it was installed properly and
then closed properly. The issue seems to be that either the pins do not
penetrate the door frame sufficently to secure it or the sealing material
makes it more difficult to close the door and the pins were not engaged
before flight. I think that if we verify the doors are closed and latched we
would have no problem with the existing latch system.
Albert Gardner
N9914RV
Yuma, Az
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 1:19 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Door Latch Redux
Hi
A few weeks back there was a great thread on door latches.
Is there any consensus as to what the best solution is - Sean's latches / 90
or 180 degree etc? Are there other options worth pursuing? I'll assume that
the latches from the iron works at Van's don't make the cut.
Cheers
Les
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| Subject: | Re: Door Latch Redux |
That's great. I am around again if you still want the cord
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 8, 2010, at 3:47, "Bob Leffler" <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
> Ask me at OSH.
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> I have handles and pins from iflyrv10.com. I=99m just finishing tr
imming the doors and hope to have the hardware installed before OSH.
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> Bob
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> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@
matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pascal
> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 9:55 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Door Latch Redux
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> Has anyone had an issue with the doors with the aftermarket pins and alumi
num versus plastic that Vans sells in their kits? I know of one builder who u
pgraded his and tells me his doors close every time now without an issue, wh
ich wasn't the case before he installed them.
>
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> From: Albert Gardner
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> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:45 PM
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> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
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> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Door Latch Redux
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> On the other hand:
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> I don't believe anyone has lost a door when it was installed properly and t
hen closed properly. The issue seems to be that either the pins do not penet
rate the door frame sufficently to secure it or the sealing material makes i
t more difficult to close the door and the pins were not engaged before flig
ht. I think that if we verify the doors are closed and latched we would have
no problem with the existing latch system.
>
> Albert Gardner
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> N9914RV
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> Yuma, Az
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> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@
matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney
> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 1:19 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Door Latch Redux
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>
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> Hi
>
> A few weeks back there was a great thread on door latches.
>
> Is there any consensus as to what the best solution is - Sean's latches / 9
0 or 180 degree etc? Are there other options worth pursuing? I'll assume tha
t the latches from the iron works at Van's don't make the cut.
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> Cheers
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> Les
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Anyone planning on being at the Arlington fly-in this weekend?
--
Rob Kochman
RV-10 "Finishing" Kit
Woodinville, WA (near Seattle)
http://kochman.net/N819K
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| Subject: | N52KS is now an airplane! |
N52KS is now an airplane after its inspection yesterday!
Not too many squawks except not enough threads showing through on a
couple of non-structural bolts, and the fact that the engraver added an
extra zero in our serial number on the data plate! (We were allowed to
obliterate the extra zero with the Dremel so now the data plate is
correct, if somewhat ugly.)
As General McPeak used to say, "See you on the flightline."
Tim
Tim Dawson-Townsend
RV-10 40025
tdt@aurora.aero
617-500-4812 (office)
617-905-4800 (mobile)
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| Subject: | Re: Door Latch Redux |
Early on in the discussions Van's said they have not tested the SB latch and it
would be too dangerous to test. I tend to agree.
I also agree that if the doors are built correct you should never have a problem
with the doors. My indicator light work great, I wired all four pins to one
light.
After seeing Sean's system work I was impressed and decided to buy one too. I
have really liked it and it makes it almost impossible not to close correctly.
I could have a jacket hanging out the back that may keep the rear pin from going
in but I would still have an indicator light on and the cam should keep the
door on.
If you are still evaluating the different designs just wait a couple of weeks for
Oshkosh.
I also really like his 45 degree pins. I have the stock seals from Van's and my
pilot side rear has the largest gap that has problems with the bullet style
where the 45 degree system allows you to close the largest gap.
It will be fun opening and closing all the doors and different systems. I want
to find a non-bias judge to evaluate all the "third latch" systems and award
the winner with something.
Scott Schmidt
scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
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From: AirMike <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net>
Sent: Wed, July 7, 2010 9:39:40 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Door Latch Redux
I tend to be in Dave "Nukeflyboy's" camp. I am not that sold on the Van's fix,
but I did install it on the Pilot side only. I want to use it for a few months
and then tender an opinion before putting it on the passenger side. The two touch
system is not that great, but it is a solid item after installation. Installation
was about 5 hrs as you want the fix right and exact. The reverse detent
is pretty fail safe at low speed, but how it will operate at 100+ kts is a
real unknown. I presume that Vans tested it....????,,?>?>??>>???
One bonus is that the fit is loose, so when you land on a hot day you can open
the door latch and get a small bit of air in the cabin
--------
OSH '10 or Bust
Q/B - finally done
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| Subject: | Re: Door Latch Redux |
> I do follow Alberts checklist and confirm pin penetration twice during preflight,
and I ALWAYS close the pax side door from the outside.
>
> Cheers
> Ron
> VH-XRM flying in Oz
I would agree but I can see a passenger sweating bullets in a long taxi line finally
yanking it open for air, with the apology that they will make sure it's
closed before takeoff....
John
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#40572 QB. Working on Cowling & Panel
N711JG reserved
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Anyone got an idea what the ambient temps are like on the engine side of
the firewall? Obviously there's a range, but what might that range be?
Maybe eventually I'll hang a temperature probe out there and see what it
says . ..
Tim Dawson-Townsend
RV-10 40025
tdt@aurora.aero
617-500-4812 (office)
617-905-4800 (mobile)
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| Subject: | N52KS is now an airplane! |
Inspection pic
Way to go Tim!
Have a enjoyable & safe Phase 1.
Robin
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*From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Dawson-Townsend,Timoth
y
*Sent:* Thursday, July 08, 2010 12:36 PM
*To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
*Subject:* RV10-List: N52KS is now an airplane!
N52KS is now an airplane after its inspection yesterday!
Not too many squawks except not enough threads showing through on a couple
of non-structural bolts, and the fact that the engraver added an extra zero
in our serial number on the data plate! (We were allowed to obliterate the
extra zero with the Dremel so now the data plate is correct, if somewhat
ugly.)
As General McPeak used to say, =93See you on the flightline.=94
Tim
Tim Dawson-Townsend
RV-10 40025
tdt@aurora.aero
617-500-4812 (office)
617-905-4800 (mobile)
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| Subject: | Re: Door Latch Redux |
I can see someone opening it up after you closed it and went into the hangar to
get something you forgot. They are thinking how hard can it be to close? I would
rather have a door that others can close . I will still close the door for
my passengers but if they mistakenly were the last ones to close the door I would
expect it to be close.
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| Subject: | N52KS is now an airplane! |
Congrats Tim,
Now that's its officially an airplane when is first flight.
Steve Stella
#40654 Wings
N521RV reserved
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Dawson-Townsend,Timothy
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 3:36 PM
Subject: RV10-List: N52KS is now an airplane!
N52KS is now an airplane after its inspection yesterday!
Not too many squawks except not enough threads showing through on a couple
of non-structural bolts, and the fact that the engraver added an extra zero
in our serial number on the data plate! (We were allowed to obliterate the
extra zero with the Dremel so now the data plate is correct, if somewhat
ugly.)
As General McPeak used to say, "See you on the flightline."
Tim
Tim Dawson-Townsend
RV-10 40025
tdt@aurora.aero
617-500-4812 (office)
617-905-4800 (mobile)
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| Subject: | Re: N52KS is now an airplane! |
Dawson-Townsend,Timothy wrote:
Yea!. Congratulations.
Now the fun begins.
Dr Fred.
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| Subject: | Re: N52KS is now an airplane! |
Congratulations. Have fun!
--------
Wayne Gillispie, A&P 5/93, PPC 10/08
Grayson, KY Bldr# 40983
Ord complete kit 8/24/09; DB Sch del 11/20/09
Emp 12/01/09-3/14/10 332 hrs
Wings 3/14/10-
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| Subject: | Re: N52KS is now an airplane! |
Congrats Tim! Still have an Avidyne panel?
-Sean #40303 Slow-build fuse
On 7/8/10 2:36 PM, Dawson-Townsend,Timothy wrote:
>
> N52KS is now an airplane after its inspection yesterday!
>
> Not too many squawks except not enough threads showing through on a
> couple of non-structural bolts, and the fact that the engraver added
> an extra zero in our serial number on the data plate! (We were
> allowed to obliterate the extra zero with the Dremel so now the data
> plate is correct, if somewhat ugly.)
>
> As General McPeak used to say, "See you on the flightline."
>
> Tim
>
> Tim Dawson-Townsend
>
> RV-10 40025
>
> tdt@aurora.aero <mailto:tdt@aurora.aero>
>
> 617-500-4812 (office)
>
> 617-905-4800 (mobile)
>
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| Subject: | [RV Builders] UFO Alert - EAA 21 Club Fly-In Lunch at KEHR |
This Saturday is the monthly EAA 21 Club Fly-In Lunch. We will be
preparing Hamburgers, Brats and Hot Dogs for all that fly-in. Just as
New York's 21 Club has become known as the HAPPENING PLACE to be and be
seen, EAA 21 Club is the place to be on the first Saturday (with a
couple of exceptions THIS MONTH BEING ONE) each month.
When: July 10, August 14, September 4, October 2
10:00 AM till 2:00 PM Central time
Where: Henderson Kentucky City-County Airport (KEHR)
If KEHR is VFR then we are grilling the best gourmet hamburgers, brats
and hot dogs this side of Sporty's for all that fly or drive in.
Steve Eberhart
Program Chairman
EAA Chapter 21
Evansvile, IN
http://www.eaa21.org
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