---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 07/08/10: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:47 AM - Re: Door Latch Redux (Bob Leffler) 2. 06:08 AM - Re: Door Latch Redux (Seano) 3. 11:52 AM - Arlington? (Rob Kochman) 4. 12:39 PM - N52KS is now an airplane! (Dawson-Townsend,Timothy) 5. 12:41 PM - Re: Re: Door Latch Redux (Scott Schmidt) 6. 12:48 PM - Re: Door Latch Redux (johngoodman) 7. 01:09 PM - Firewall temp? (Dawson-Townsend,Timothy) 8. 01:34 PM - Re: N52KS is now an airplane! (Robin Marks) 9. 01:46 PM - Re: Door Latch Redux (Ron B.) 10. 02:03 PM - Re: N52KS is now an airplane! (Steve Stella) 11. 02:47 PM - Re: N52KS is now an airplane! (Fred Williams, M.D.) 12. 05:27 PM - Re: N52KS is now an airplane! (rv10flyer) 13. 06:24 PM - Re: N52KS is now an airplane! (Sean Stephens) 14. 08:55 PM - [RV Builders] UFO Alert - EAA 21 Club Fly-In Lunch at KEHR (Steven Eberhart) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:47:52 AM PST US From: "Bob Leffler" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Door Latch Redux Ask me at OSH. I have handles and pins from iflyrv10.com. I'm just finishing trimming the doors and hope to have the hardware installed before OSH. Bob From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pascal Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 9:55 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Door Latch Redux Has anyone had an issue with the doors with the aftermarket pins and aluminum versus plastic that Vans sells in their kits? I know of one builder who upgraded his and tells me his doors close every time now without an issue, which wasn't the case before he installed them. From: Albert Gardner Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:45 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Door Latch Redux On the other hand: I don't believe anyone has lost a door when it was installed properly and then closed properly. The issue seems to be that either the pins do not penetrate the door frame sufficently to secure it or the sealing material makes it more difficult to close the door and the pins were not engaged before flight. I think that if we verify the doors are closed and latched we would have no problem with the existing latch system. Albert Gardner N9914RV Yuma, Az From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 1:19 PM Subject: RV10-List: Door Latch Redux Hi A few weeks back there was a great thread on door latches. Is there any consensus as to what the best solution is - Sean's latches / 90 or 180 degree etc? Are there other options worth pursuing? I'll assume that the latches from the iron works at Van's don't make the cut. Cheers Les #40643 http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:08:56 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Door Latch Redux From: Seano That's great. I am around again if you still want the cord Sent from my iPhone On Jul 8, 2010, at 3:47, "Bob Leffler" wrote: > Ask me at OSH. > > > > I have handles and pins from iflyrv10.com. I=99m just finishing tr imming the doors and hope to have the hardware installed before OSH. > > > > Bob > > > > > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@ matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pascal > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 9:55 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Door Latch Redux > > > > Has anyone had an issue with the doors with the aftermarket pins and alumi num versus plastic that Vans sells in their kits? I know of one builder who u pgraded his and tells me his doors close every time now without an issue, wh ich wasn't the case before he installed them. > > > > > From: Albert Gardner > > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:45 PM > > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: RV10-List: Door Latch Redux > > > > On the other hand: > > I don't believe anyone has lost a door when it was installed properly and t hen closed properly. The issue seems to be that either the pins do not penet rate the door frame sufficently to secure it or the sealing material makes i t more difficult to close the door and the pins were not engaged before flig ht. I think that if we verify the doors are closed and latched we would have no problem with the existing latch system. > > Albert Gardner > > N9914RV > > Yuma, Az > > > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@ matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 1:19 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Door Latch Redux > > > > Hi > > A few weeks back there was a great thread on door latches. > > Is there any consensus as to what the best solution is - Sean's latches / 9 0 or 180 degree etc? Are there other options worth pursuing? I'll assume tha t the latches from the iron works at Van's don't make the cut. > > Cheers > > Les > #40643 > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > http://forums.matronics.com > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics .com/Navigator?RV10-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > http://forums.matronics.com > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:52:28 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Arlington? From: Rob Kochman Anyone planning on being at the Arlington fly-in this weekend? -- Rob Kochman RV-10 "Finishing" Kit Woodinville, WA (near Seattle) http://kochman.net/N819K ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:39:34 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: N52KS is now an airplane! From: "Dawson-Townsend,Timothy" N52KS is now an airplane after its inspection yesterday! Not too many squawks except not enough threads showing through on a couple of non-structural bolts, and the fact that the engraver added an extra zero in our serial number on the data plate! (We were allowed to obliterate the extra zero with the Dremel so now the data plate is correct, if somewhat ugly.) As General McPeak used to say, "See you on the flightline." Tim Tim Dawson-Townsend RV-10 40025 tdt@aurora.aero 617-500-4812 (office) 617-905-4800 (mobile) ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:41:33 PM PST US From: Scott Schmidt Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Door Latch Redux Early on in the discussions Van's said they have not tested the SB latch and it would be too dangerous to test. I tend to agree. I also agree that if the doors are built correct you should never have a problem with the doors. My indicator light work great, I wired all four pins to one light. After seeing Sean's system work I was impressed and decided to buy one too. I have really liked it and it makes it almost impossible not to close correctly. I could have a jacket hanging out the back that may keep the rear pin from going in but I would still have an indicator light on and the cam should keep the door on. If you are still evaluating the different designs just wait a couple of weeks for Oshkosh. I also really like his 45 degree pins. I have the stock seals from Van's and my pilot side rear has the largest gap that has problems with the bullet style where the 45 degree system allows you to close the largest gap. It will be fun opening and closing all the doors and different systems. I want to find a non-bias judge to evaluate all the "third latch" systems and award the winner with something. Scott Schmidt scottmschmidt@yahoo.com ________________________________ From: AirMike Sent: Wed, July 7, 2010 9:39:40 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Door Latch Redux I tend to be in Dave "Nukeflyboy's" camp. I am not that sold on the Van's fix, but I did install it on the Pilot side only. I want to use it for a few months and then tender an opinion before putting it on the passenger side. The two touch system is not that great, but it is a solid item after installation. Installation was about 5 hrs as you want the fix right and exact. The reverse detent is pretty fail safe at low speed, but how it will operate at 100+ kts is a real unknown. I presume that Vans tested it....????,,?>?>??>>??? One bonus is that the fit is loose, so when you land on a hot day you can open the door latch and get a small bit of air in the cabin -------- OSH '10 or Bust Q/B - finally done Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304130#304130 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:48:22 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Door Latch Redux From: "johngoodman" > I do follow Alberts checklist and confirm pin penetration twice during preflight, and I ALWAYS close the pax side door from the outside. > > Cheers > Ron > VH-XRM flying in Oz I would agree but I can see a passenger sweating bullets in a long taxi line finally yanking it open for air, with the apology that they will make sure it's closed before takeoff.... John -------- #40572 QB. Working on Cowling & Panel N711JG reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304232#304232 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:09:13 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Firewall temp? From: "Dawson-Townsend,Timothy" Anyone got an idea what the ambient temps are like on the engine side of the firewall? Obviously there's a range, but what might that range be? Maybe eventually I'll hang a temperature probe out there and see what it says . .. Tim Dawson-Townsend RV-10 40025 tdt@aurora.aero 617-500-4812 (office) 617-905-4800 (mobile) ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:34:53 PM PST US From: Robin Marks Subject: RE: RV10-List: N52KS is now an airplane! Inspection pic Way to go Tim! Have a enjoyable & safe Phase 1. Robin Do Not Archive *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Dawson-Townsend,Timoth y *Sent:* Thursday, July 08, 2010 12:36 PM *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com *Subject:* RV10-List: N52KS is now an airplane! N52KS is now an airplane after its inspection yesterday! Not too many squawks except not enough threads showing through on a couple of non-structural bolts, and the fact that the engraver added an extra zero in our serial number on the data plate! (We were allowed to obliterate the extra zero with the Dremel so now the data plate is correct, if somewhat ugly.) As General McPeak used to say, =93See you on the flightline.=94 Tim Tim Dawson-Townsend RV-10 40025 tdt@aurora.aero 617-500-4812 (office) 617-905-4800 (mobile) ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:46:16 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Door Latch Redux From: "Ron B." I can see someone opening it up after you closed it and went into the hangar to get something you forgot. They are thinking how hard can it be to close? I would rather have a door that others can close . I will still close the door for my passengers but if they mistakenly were the last ones to close the door I would expect it to be close. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304242#304242 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:03:15 PM PST US From: "Steve Stella" Subject: RE: RV10-List: N52KS is now an airplane! Congrats Tim, Now that's its officially an airplane when is first flight. Steve Stella #40654 Wings N521RV reserved _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dawson-Townsend,Timothy Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 3:36 PM Subject: RV10-List: N52KS is now an airplane! N52KS is now an airplane after its inspection yesterday! Not too many squawks except not enough threads showing through on a couple of non-structural bolts, and the fact that the engraver added an extra zero in our serial number on the data plate! (We were allowed to obliterate the extra zero with the Dremel so now the data plate is correct, if somewhat ugly.) As General McPeak used to say, "See you on the flightline." Tim Tim Dawson-Townsend RV-10 40025 tdt@aurora.aero 617-500-4812 (office) 617-905-4800 (mobile) ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:47:08 PM PST US From: "Fred Williams, M.D." Subject: Re: RV10-List: N52KS is now an airplane! Dawson-Townsend,Timothy wrote: Yea!. Congratulations. Now the fun begins. Dr Fred. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:27:16 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: N52KS is now an airplane! From: "rv10flyer" Congratulations. Have fun! -------- Wayne Gillispie, A&P 5/93, PPC 10/08 Grayson, KY Bldr# 40983 Ord complete kit 8/24/09; DB Sch del 11/20/09 Emp 12/01/09-3/14/10 332 hrs Wings 3/14/10- Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304266#304266 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:24:21 PM PST US From: Sean Stephens Subject: Re: RV10-List: N52KS is now an airplane! Congrats Tim! Still have an Avidyne panel? -Sean #40303 Slow-build fuse On 7/8/10 2:36 PM, Dawson-Townsend,Timothy wrote: > > N52KS is now an airplane after its inspection yesterday! > > Not too many squawks except not enough threads showing through on a > couple of non-structural bolts, and the fact that the engraver added > an extra zero in our serial number on the data plate! (We were > allowed to obliterate the extra zero with the Dremel so now the data > plate is correct, if somewhat ugly.) > > As General McPeak used to say, "See you on the flightline." > > Tim > > Tim Dawson-Townsend > > RV-10 40025 > > tdt@aurora.aero > > 617-500-4812 (office) > > 617-905-4800 (mobile) > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:55:12 PM PST US From: Steven Eberhart Subject: RV10-List: [RV Builders] UFO Alert - EAA 21 Club Fly-In Lunch at KEHR This Saturday is the monthly EAA 21 Club Fly-In Lunch. We will be preparing Hamburgers, Brats and Hot Dogs for all that fly-in. Just as New York's 21 Club has become known as the HAPPENING PLACE to be and be seen, EAA 21 Club is the place to be on the first Saturday (with a couple of exceptions THIS MONTH BEING ONE) each month. When: July 10, August 14, September 4, October 2 10:00 AM till 2:00 PM Central time Where: Henderson Kentucky City-County Airport (KEHR) If KEHR is VFR then we are grilling the best gourmet hamburgers, brats and hot dogs this side of Sporty's for all that fly or drive in. Steve Eberhart Program Chairman EAA Chapter 21 Evansvile, IN http://www.eaa21.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.