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1. 08:23 AM - Firewall And Two Fwd K1000-3 (Sean Stephens)
2. 09:09 AM - Re: Firewall And Two Fwd K1000-3 (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
3. 10:32 AM - Re: AC cooling chest (Lew Gallagher)
4. 10:46 AM - Re: Firewall And Two Fwd K1000-3 (Rob Kochman)
5. 10:48 AM - Re: RV10-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 07/15/10 (Ted Chang)
6. 10:48 AM - Re: RV10-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 07/15/10 (Ted Chang)
7. 11:04 AM - Re: Firewall And Two Fwd K1000-3 (Sean Stephens)
8. 11:50 AM - RTV vs ProSeal on Firewall (Sean Stephens)
9. 12:32 PM - Re: RTV vs ProSeal on Firewall (Dave Saylor)
10. 01:13 PM - Re: RTV vs ProSeal on Firewall (Jeff Carpenter)
11. 01:37 PM - Re: RTV vs ProSeal on Firewall (Paul Bowmar)
12. 01:40 PM - Re: Re: 2010 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping (Tim Olson)
13. 01:46 PM - Re: RTV vs ProSeal on Firewall (Rob Kochman)
14. 01:59 PM - Re: RTV vs ProSeal on Firewall (Kelly McMullen)
15. 02:10 PM - Re: RTV vs ProSeal on Firewall (Paul Bowmar)
16. 02:22 PM - Re: RTV vs ProSeal on Firewall (Carlos Hernandez)
17. 02:37 PM - Re: RTV vs ProSeal on Firewall (Carlos Hernandez)
18. 02:50 PM - Cabin Cover..minor glitch (Kelly McMullen)
19. 03:06 PM - Re: Cabin Cover..minor glitch (egohr1)
20. 09:33 PM - Re: RTV vs ProSeal on Firewall (Linn Walters)
21. 09:44 PM - Re: RTV vs ProSeal on Firewall (Linn Walters)
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| Subject: | Firewall And Two Fwd K1000-3 |
On page 27-5 there are two K1000-3 nutplates that are called out as
being on the forward side of the firewall. Step 7 on page 27-2 also
calls your attention to these two nutplates as being on the forward side.
My question is how are these attached? The plans call for dimpling all
the attach holes for a flush head rivet on the fwd side of the firewall,
but that doesn't seem correct for the four mounting holes for these two
nutplates. But the rivet callouts for these nutplates on page 27-5
still call for flush rivets for mounting these two nutplates.
Manufactured head on aft side of firewall for these two nutplates and no
forward side dimple?
Any help appreciated.
Thanks,
Sean #40303
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| Subject: | Firewall And Two Fwd K1000-3 |
At least 1 of those nutplates are for attaching the adel clamps that secure the
heat control cables. Dimple flush on the aft side of the firewall with the nutplates
on the forward side to provide for mounting these adel clamps on the
aft (cabin) side of the firewall. The cables are routed through the oval shaped
hole near those nutplates and then further secured with adel clamps on the
forward side. This is shown much later in the plans - page FF1-3.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 10:16 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Firewall And Two Fwd K1000-3
On page 27-5 there are two K1000-3 nutplates that are called out as
being on the forward side of the firewall. Step 7 on page 27-2 also
calls your attention to these two nutplates as being on the forward side.
My question is how are these attached? The plans call for dimpling all
the attach holes for a flush head rivet on the fwd side of the firewall,
but that doesn't seem correct for the four mounting holes for these two
nutplates. But the rivet callouts for these nutplates on page 27-5
still call for flush rivets for mounting these two nutplates.
Manufactured head on aft side of firewall for these two nutplates and no
forward side dimple?
Any help appreciated.
Thanks,
Sean #40303
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| Subject: | Re: AC cooling chest |
Hey Guys,
OK, I flew with Wes for the first time to check out the ice A/C. (Flying was OK,
but building is still my thing!)
I didnt have a thermometer for the actual inside temp, but on the taxiway it was
HOT instant sweat hot. As soon as the engine was cranked, I turned on the
air with the two 4 inch ducts just hand held between the pilot/copilot seats (Ill
probably come up with a tunnel console later) and there is immediate relief.
Cool, dry air and complete comfort by take off.
I immediately turned off the air during climb out to save ice, and to not add any
unnecessary load during critical times. When at cruise I noticed that the
amp draw on the instrument panel was at 1. Turning the cooler on and off, it
pulls a little over 7 amps. I turned it on again at touch down to shut off.
The male plug into the socket was not hot after using it. Two store bought bags
of ice lasted for two take offs and landings, with plenty of cold water left
in the cooler, but no ice. There is enough room for 4 or five bags of ice in
the cooler if you wanted to run it longer or do more take offs and landings.
Your mileage may vary, keep weight in mind.
The first pilot to see this at the hangar, asked me to make one for him, which
I did. Total cost with shipping would be $250. New 48 qt. cooler, new fans,
hoses, ducts, switches, etc. used heater core.
Later, - Lew
--------
non-pilot
crazy about building
NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
Fly off completed !
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305082#305082
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| Subject: | Re: Firewall And Two Fwd K1000-3 |
The other one is used to secure the brake lines on the aft side of the
firewall. Make the dimples flush on the aft side.
-Rob
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Condrey, Bob (US SSA) <
bob.condrey@baesystems.com> wrote:
> bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
>
> At least 1 of those nutplates are for attaching the adel clamps that secure
> the heat control cables. Dimple flush on the aft side of the firewall with
> the nutplates on the forward side to provide for mounting these adel clamps
> on the aft (cabin) side of the firewall. The cables are routed through the
> oval shaped hole near those nutplates and then further secured with adel
> clamps on the forward side. This is shown much later in the plans - page
> FF1-3.
>
> Bob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 10:16 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Firewall And Two Fwd K1000-3
>
>
> On page 27-5 there are two K1000-3 nutplates that are called out as
> being on the forward side of the firewall. Step 7 on page 27-2 also
> calls your attention to these two nutplates as being on the forward side.
>
> My question is how are these attached? The plans call for dimpling all
> the attach holes for a flush head rivet on the fwd side of the firewall,
> but that doesn't seem correct for the four mounting holes for these two
> nutplates. But the rivet callouts for these nutplates on page 27-5
> still call for flush rivets for mounting these two nutplates.
>
> Manufactured head on aft side of firewall for these two nutplates and no
> forward side dimple?
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sean #40303
>
>
--
Rob Kochman
RV-10 "Finishing" Kit
Woodinville, WA (near Seattle)
http://kochman.net/N819K
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| Subject: | Re: RV10-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 07/15/10 |
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> 1. 12:23 AM - Re: Re: 2010 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping (Vijay Pisini)
> 2. 02:12 PM - Re: Re: 2010 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping (Geoff Combs)
> 3. 02:18 PM - Re: Re: 2010 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
> 4. 03:38 PM - Santa Barbara (bruce breckenridge)
> 5. 07:25 PM - Re: Santa Barbara (Bob Turner)
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>________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
>
>
>Time: 12:23:49 AM PST US
>From: Vijay Pisini <vijaypisini@yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: 2010 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping
>
>
>Bob,
>
>This is my first post on Matronics RV-10 list but have been following the list
>
>(somewhat) for some time.
>
>I'm Vijay Pisinifrom Cedar Rapids, IA. I'll be in Osh the whole week except
>for one day on 7/28. I would like to camp with you all. Please let me know the
>
>details as to how much I need to pay and to who. I'll be flying a C-172 and
>arriving on Sunday 7/25 with a friend of mine and will leave on 7/27. I'll be
>back in Osh by car on 7/29 and will leave Osh on 8/1.
>
>By the way, I had my first RV-10 ride on Tim's N104CD in Aug'09 from Menominie,
>
>WI. He was very generous and explained a whole lot and let me fly his plane for
>
>some time. Just finished Emp and started on std wings (www.vijaypisini.com).
>Thanks.
>
>
>vj
>
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: bcondrey <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
>Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 1:29:56 PM
>Subject: RV10-List: Re: 2010 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping
>
>
>Last bump - need to have funds in hand no later than tomorrow PM if you would
>like to camp with the RV-10 group. Here's the current list
>http://www.myrv10.com/osh/2010_Campsites.html
>
>Even if you're not camping with us, feel free to swing by - there's usually a
>group of us every evening. We'll probably also do at least 1 or 2 large
>cookouts for all RV-10 builders/enthusiasts with info to come later.
>
>Bob
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304781#304781
>
>
>________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
>
>
>Time: 02:12:22 PM PST US
>From: "Geoff Combs" <g.combs@aerosportmodeling.com>
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: 2010 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping
>
>
>Bob I will be flying in in N829GW on 7-24 and leaving 7-31
>
>Thanks Geoff
>
>Geoff Combs
>President
>Aerosport Modeling & Design
>8090 Howe Industrial Parkway
>Canal Winchester, Ohio 43110
>614-834-5227p
>614-834-5230f
>www.aerosportmodeling.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bcondrey
>Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:30 PM
>Subject: RV10-List: Re: 2010 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping
>
>
>Last bump - need to have funds in hand no later than tomorrow PM if you
>would like to camp with the RV-10 group. Here's the current list
>http://www.myrv10.com/osh/2010_Campsites.html
>
>Even if you're not camping with us, feel free to swing by - there's usually
>a group of us every evening. We'll probably also do at least 1 or 2 large
>cookouts for all RV-10 builders/enthusiasts with info to come later.
>
>Bob
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304781#304781
>
>
>________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
>
>
>Time: 02:18:45 PM PST US
>From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: 2010 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping
>
>
>Got it, thx
>
>Bob
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Geoff Combs
>Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 4:12 PM
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: 2010 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping
>
>
>Bob I will be flying in in N829GW on 7-24 and leaving 7-31
>
>Thanks Geoff
>
>Geoff Combs
>President
>Aerosport Modeling & Design
>8090 Howe Industrial Parkway
>Canal Winchester, Ohio 43110
>614-834-5227p
>614-834-5230f
>www.aerosportmodeling.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bcondrey
>Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:30 PM
>Subject: RV10-List: Re: 2010 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping
>
>
>Last bump - need to have funds in hand no later than tomorrow PM if you
>would like to camp with the RV-10 group. Here's the current list
>http://www.myrv10.com/osh/2010_Campsites.html
>
>Even if you're not camping with us, feel free to swing by - there's usually
>a group of us every evening. We'll probably also do at least 1 or 2 large
>cookouts for all RV-10 builders/enthusiasts with info to come later.
>
>Bob
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304781#304781
>
>
>________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
>
>
>Time: 03:38:56 PM PST US
>Subject: RV10-List: Santa Barbara
>From: bruce breckenridge <bbreckenridge@gmail.com>
>
>If there's anybody familiar with Santa Barbara, my wife and I are planning a
>mid/early week visit next week. Which FBO do we use? We'll need a car to
>see the sights, so a rental will be necessary for the day. Last of course,
>"which sights?"! An old mission, a wonderful seafood lunch, a walk on the
>peir, etc... Lend me your ideas!
>
>Thanks!
>
>Bruce Breckenridge
>Happy Valley, OR
>40018 wings, 7s9
>
>________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________
>
>
>Time: 07:25:10 PM PST US
>Subject: RV10-List: Re: Santa Barbara
>From: "Bob Turner" <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
>
>
>KSBA is "upscale", e.g., expensive.
>Signature and Atlantic are the FBO's. Both charge a handling fee ($39??) as soon
>as you show up. Waived with a minimum gas purchase. 100LL is something like
>$5/gal, although 50 cents cheaper on the weekends at Signature. Parking is $15
>a night, last time we were there.
>
>They can get you a rental car.
>
>My preference is for Signature. (Atlantic seems to cater to the jet crowd.)
>Expensive, but good service. Plan to buy gas to avoid the handling charge.
>
>I hear there is a new, third fbo, selling self serve fuel well under the price
>of the others. But I don't know if they offer parking or rental cars.
>
>Lots to do in Santa Barbara. Visit the UC campus if you just want to walk around
>a nice place.
>
>--------
>Bob Turner
>RV-10 QB
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305019#305019
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>Today's Message Index:
>----------------------
>
> 1. 12:23 AM - Re: Re: 2010 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping (Vijay Pisini)
> 2. 02:12 PM - Re: Re: 2010 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping (Geoff Combs)
> 3. 02:18 PM - Re: Re: 2010 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
> 4. 03:38 PM - Santa Barbara (bruce breckenridge)
> 5. 07:25 PM - Re: Santa Barbara (Bob Turner)
>
>
>
>________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
>
>
>Time: 12:23:49 AM PST US
>From: Vijay Pisini <vijaypisini@yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: 2010 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping
>
>
>Bob,
>
>This is my first post on Matronics RV-10 list but have been following the list
>
>(somewhat) for some time.
>
>I'm Vijay Pisinifrom Cedar Rapids, IA. I'll be in Osh the whole week except
>for one day on 7/28. I would like to camp with you all. Please let me know the
>
>details as to how much I need to pay and to who. I'll be flying a C-172 and
>arriving on Sunday 7/25 with a friend of mine and will leave on 7/27. I'll be
>back in Osh by car on 7/29 and will leave Osh on 8/1.
>
>By the way, I had my first RV-10 ride on Tim's N104CD in Aug'09 from Menominie,
>
>WI. He was very generous and explained a whole lot and let me fly his plane for
>
>some time. Just finished Emp and started on std wings (www.vijaypisini.com).
>Thanks.
>
>
>vj
>
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: bcondrey <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
>Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 1:29:56 PM
>Subject: RV10-List: Re: 2010 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping
>
>
>Last bump - need to have funds in hand no later than tomorrow PM if you would
>like to camp with the RV-10 group. Here's the current list
>http://www.myrv10.com/osh/2010_Campsites.html
>
>Even if you're not camping with us, feel free to swing by - there's usually a
>group of us every evening. We'll probably also do at least 1 or 2 large
>cookouts for all RV-10 builders/enthusiasts with info to come later.
>
>Bob
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304781#304781
>
>
>________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
>
>
>Time: 02:12:22 PM PST US
>From: "Geoff Combs" <g.combs@aerosportmodeling.com>
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: 2010 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping
>
>
>Bob I will be flying in in N829GW on 7-24 and leaving 7-31
>
>Thanks Geoff
>
>Geoff Combs
>President
>Aerosport Modeling & Design
>8090 Howe Industrial Parkway
>Canal Winchester, Ohio 43110
>614-834-5227p
>614-834-5230f
>www.aerosportmodeling.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bcondrey
>Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:30 PM
>Subject: RV10-List: Re: 2010 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping
>
>
>Last bump - need to have funds in hand no later than tomorrow PM if you
>would like to camp with the RV-10 group. Here's the current list
>http://www.myrv10.com/osh/2010_Campsites.html
>
>Even if you're not camping with us, feel free to swing by - there's usually
>a group of us every evening. We'll probably also do at least 1 or 2 large
>cookouts for all RV-10 builders/enthusiasts with info to come later.
>
>Bob
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304781#304781
>
>
>________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
>
>
>Time: 02:18:45 PM PST US
>From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: 2010 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping
>
>
>Got it, thx
>
>Bob
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Geoff Combs
>Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 4:12 PM
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: 2010 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping
>
>
>Bob I will be flying in in N829GW on 7-24 and leaving 7-31
>
>Thanks Geoff
>
>Geoff Combs
>President
>Aerosport Modeling & Design
>8090 Howe Industrial Parkway
>Canal Winchester, Ohio 43110
>614-834-5227p
>614-834-5230f
>www.aerosportmodeling.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bcondrey
>Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:30 PM
>Subject: RV10-List: Re: 2010 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping
>
>
>Last bump - need to have funds in hand no later than tomorrow PM if you
>would like to camp with the RV-10 group. Here's the current list
>http://www.myrv10.com/osh/2010_Campsites.html
>
>Even if you're not camping with us, feel free to swing by - there's usually
>a group of us every evening. We'll probably also do at least 1 or 2 large
>cookouts for all RV-10 builders/enthusiasts with info to come later.
>
>Bob
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304781#304781
>
>
>________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
>
>
>Time: 03:38:56 PM PST US
>Subject: RV10-List: Santa Barbara
>From: bruce breckenridge <bbreckenridge@gmail.com>
>
>If there's anybody familiar with Santa Barbara, my wife and I are planning a
>mid/early week visit next week. Which FBO do we use? We'll need a car to
>see the sights, so a rental will be necessary for the day. Last of course,
>"which sights?"! An old mission, a wonderful seafood lunch, a walk on the
>peir, etc... Lend me your ideas!
>
>Thanks!
>
>Bruce Breckenridge
>Happy Valley, OR
>40018 wings, 7s9
>
>________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________
>
>
>Time: 07:25:10 PM PST US
>Subject: RV10-List: Re: Santa Barbara
>From: "Bob Turner" <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
>
>
>KSBA is "upscale", e.g., expensive.
>Signature and Atlantic are the FBO's. Both charge a handling fee ($39??) as soon
>as you show up. Waived with a minimum gas purchase. 100LL is something like
>$5/gal, although 50 cents cheaper on the weekends at Signature. Parking is $15
>a night, last time we were there.
>
>They can get you a rental car.
>
>My preference is for Signature. (Atlantic seems to cater to the jet crowd.)
>Expensive, but good service. Plan to buy gas to avoid the handling charge.
>
>I hear there is a new, third fbo, selling self serve fuel well under the price
>of the others. But I don't know if they offer parking or rental cars.
>
>Lots to do in Santa Barbara. Visit the UC campus if you just want to walk around
>a nice place.
>
>--------
>Bob Turner
>RV-10 QB
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305019#305019
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| Subject: | Re: Firewall And Two Fwd K1000-3 |
Thanks guys...
-Sean
DO NOT ARCHIVE
On 7/16/10 12:37 PM, Rob Kochman wrote:
> The other one is used to secure the brake lines on the aft side of the
> firewall. Make the dimples flush on the aft side.
> -Rob
>
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Condrey, Bob (US SSA)
> <bob.condrey@baesystems.com <mailto:bob.condrey@baesystems.com>> wrote:
>
> <bob.condrey@baesystems.com <mailto:bob.condrey@baesystems.com>>
>
> At least 1 of those nutplates are for attaching the adel clamps
> that secure the heat control cables. Dimple flush on the aft side
> of the firewall with the nutplates on the forward side to provide
> for mounting these adel clamps on the aft (cabin) side of the
> firewall. The cables are routed through the oval shaped hole near
> those nutplates and then further secured with adel clamps on the
> forward side. This is shown much later in the plans - page FF1-3.
>
> Bob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> <mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> <mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>] On Behalf Of Sean
> Stephens
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 10:16 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV10-List: Firewall And Two Fwd K1000-3
>
> <sean@stephensville.com <mailto:sean@stephensville.com>>
>
> On page 27-5 there are two K1000-3 nutplates that are called out as
> being on the forward side of the firewall. Step 7 on page 27-2 also
> calls your attention to these two nutplates as being on the
> forward side.
>
> My question is how are these attached? The plans call for
> dimpling all
> the attach holes for a flush head rivet on the fwd side of the
> firewall,
> but that doesn't seem correct for the four mounting holes for
> these two
> nutplates. But the rivet callouts for these nutplates on page 27-5
> still call for flush rivets for mounting these two nutplates.
>
> Manufactured head on aft side of firewall for these two nutplates
> and no
> forward side dimple?
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sean #40303
>
>
> ator to browse
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| Subject: | RTV vs ProSeal on Firewall |
Is it acceptable practice to use red rtv in place of proseal where it is
called out in the firewall sections such as the heater vents and the box
corners? I realize red rtv is not a true fire barrier, but then neither
is proseal at an upper range of +275 degrees.
-Sean #40303
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| Subject: | Re: RTV vs ProSeal on Firewall |
Sean,
I'm not sure I'd use either one. We get this 3M fire sealant at Home Depot:
http://tinyurl.com/25663eu
It isn't expensive. One tube would do the whole firewall perimeter and
misc. gaps.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Sean Stephens <sean@stephensville.com>wrote:
>
> Is it acceptable practice to use red rtv in place of proseal where it is
> called out in the firewall sections such as the heater vents and the box
> corners? I realize red rtv is not a true fire barrier, but then neither is
> proseal at an upper range of +275 degrees.
>
> -Sean #40303
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RTV vs ProSeal on Firewall |
Thanks Dave... just what I was after at the moment as well.
Jeff Carpenter
Do Not Archive
On Jul 16, 2010, at 12:31 PM, Dave Saylor wrote:
> Sean,
>
> I'm not sure I'd use either one. We get this 3M fire sealant at
> Home Depot:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/25663eu
>
> It isn't expensive. One tube would do the whole firewall perimeter
> and misc. gaps.
>
> Dave Saylor
> AirCrafters
> 140 Aviation Way
> Watsonville, CA 95076
> 831-722-9141 Shop
> 831-750-0284 Cell
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Sean Stephens <sean@stephensville.com
> > wrote:
> <sean@stephensville.com>
>
> Is it acceptable practice to use red rtv in place of proseal where
> it is called out in the firewall sections such as the heater vents
> and the box corners? I realize red rtv is not a true fire barrier,
> but then neither is proseal at an upper range of +275 degrees.
>
> -Sean #40303
>
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| Subject: | Re: RTV vs ProSeal on Firewall |
Plane Innovations LLC sells 2000 degree fire block sealant for that purpose.
www.planeinnovations.com
Paul
67KB flying RV-4
On Jul 16, 2010, at 12:47 PM, Sean Stephens wrote:
>
> Is it acceptable practice to use red rtv in place of proseal where it is called
out in the firewall sections such as the heater vents and the box corners?
I realize red rtv is not a true fire barrier, but then neither is proseal at
an upper range of +275 degrees.
>
> -Sean #40303
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 2010 OSH RV-10 HQ Camping |
Went to OSH this a.m. and saw scholler. It looks much like
it did most years. They have more young trees planted in many
of the rows now, so in future years there will be more shade
available. The grounds are VERY wet right now. There has
been a lot of rain and they are actively pumping water out
from some areas of the campground.
It is very likely that Bob and Gary will be able to get
a very similar location to the last couple years, so
RV-10 HQ should end up in about the same area. It may be
a little more quicker filling this year...hard to tell,
but there are some folks picking up sole campsites in
areas that usually didn't have campers when I got there
this early.
I updated a couple minor things at http://www.myrv10.com/osh/
and added a food concession schedule thanks to Bob Leffler.
It should be a great year....lets hope for another year of
75 degrees and sunny, and hopefully with no rain!
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
On 7/14/2010 1:29 PM, bcondrey wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by:
> "bcondrey"<bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
>
> Last bump - need to have funds in hand no later than tomorrow PM if
> you would like to camp with the RV-10 group. Here's the current list
> http://www.myrv10.com/osh/2010_Campsites.html
>
> Even if you're not camping with us, feel free to swing by - there's
> usually a group of us every evening. We'll probably also do at least
> 1 or 2 large cookouts for all RV-10 builders/enthusiasts with info to
> come later.
>
> Bob
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RTV vs ProSeal on Firewall |
"Continuous Operating Temperature not to exceed 120=B0F (48=B0C)."
How hot do these firewalls get, anyway?
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Dave Saylor <
dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sean,
>
> I'm not sure I'd use either one. We get this 3M fire sealant at Home
> Depot:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/25663eu
>
> It isn't expensive. One tube would do the whole firewall perimeter and
> misc. gaps.
>
> Dave Saylor
> AirCrafters
> 140 Aviation Way
> Watsonville, CA 95076
> 831-722-9141 Shop
> 831-750-0284 Cell
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Sean Stephens <sean@stephensville.com>
wrote:
>
>>
>> Is it acceptable practice to use red rtv in place of proseal where it is
>> called out in the firewall sections such as the heater vents and the box
>> corners? I realize red rtv is not a true fire barrier, but then neither
is
>> proseal at an upper range of +275 degrees.
>>
>> -Sean #40303
>>
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| Subject: | Re: RTV vs ProSeal on Firewall |
Vans sells, and I believe recommends for the firewall a high temp
ProSeal or equivalent. It is NOT the standard tank sealant that is
being called for.
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Continuous Operating Temperature not to exceed 120F (48C)."
>
> How hot do these firewalls get, anyway?
>
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Dave Saylor
> <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Sean,
>>
>> I'm not sure I'd use either one. We get this 3M fire sealant at Home
>> Depot:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/25663eu
>>
>> It isn't expensive. One tube would do the whole firewall perimeter and
>> misc. gaps.
>>
>> Dave Saylor
>> AirCrafters
>> 140 Aviation Way
>> Watsonville, CA 95076
>> 831-722-9141 Shop
>> 831-750-0284 Cell
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Sean Stephens <sean@stephensville.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Is it acceptable practice to use red rtv in place of proseal where it is
>>> called out in the firewall sections such as the heater vents and the box
>>> corners? I realize red rtv is not a true fire barrier, but then neither is
>>> proseal at an upper range of +275 degrees.
>>>
>>> -Sean #40303
>>>
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> RV-10 "Finishing" Kit
> Woodinville, WA (near Seattle)
> http://kochman.net/N819K
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| Subject: | Re: RTV vs ProSeal on Firewall |
Normally not bad, but windblown avgas burns at 1875 degrees. Just a
precaution in case of engine fire.
Paul
On Jul 16, 2010, at 2:45 PM, Rob Kochman wrote:
> "Continuous Operating Temperature not to exceed 120=B0F (48=B0C)."
> How hot do these firewalls get, anyway?
>
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Dave Saylor
<dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sean,
>
> I'm not sure I'd use either one. We get this 3M fire sealant at Home
Depot:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/25663eu
>
> It isn't expensive. One tube would do the whole firewall perimeter
and misc. gaps.
>
> Dave Saylor
> AirCrafters
> 140 Aviation Way
> Watsonville, CA 95076
> 831-722-9141 Shop
> 831-750-0284 Cell
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Sean Stephens
<sean@stephensville.com> wrote:
<sean@stephensville.com>
>
> Is it acceptable practice to use red rtv in place of proseal where it
is called out in the firewall sections such as the heater vents and the
box corners? I realize red rtv is not a true fire barrier, but then
neither is proseal at an upper range of +275 degrees.
>
> -Sean #40303
>
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> RV-10 "Finishing" Kit
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> http://kochman.net/N819K
>
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| Subject: | Re: RTV vs ProSeal on Firewall |
CS 1900 Firewall sealant. As Kelly stated, Vans has it.
http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1279315031-208-606&action=search
Carlos in AZ
Kelly McMullen wrote:
>
> Vans sells, and I believe recommends for the firewall a high temp
> ProSeal or equivalent. It is NOT the standard tank sealant that is
> being called for.
>
>
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Structural Engineers Company
2963 W. Elliot Rd. - Suite 3
Chandler, AZ 85224
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| Subject: | Re: RTV vs ProSeal on Firewall |
Bad link. My bad. Here you go -
http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1279315031-208-606&browse=misc&product=cs1900
Carlos in AZ
Carlos Hernandez wrote:
> <carlosh@structuralaz.com>
>
> CS 1900 Firewall sealant. As Kelly stated, Vans has it.
> http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1279315031-208-606&action=search
>
>
> Carlos in AZ
>
> Kelly McMullen wrote:
>>
>> Vans sells, and I believe recommends for the firewall a high temp
>> ProSeal or equivalent. It is NOT the standard tank sealant that is
>> being called for.
>>
>>
--
Carlos Hernandez <carlosh@sec-engr.com>
Structural Engineers Company
2963 W. Elliot Rd. - Suite 3
Chandler, AZ 85224
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| Subject: | Cabin Cover..minor glitch |
Step 4 on page 43-6 has you drill 5 holes into the fiberglass.
However, lo and behold, the top hole is already filled with an AN-470
rivet securing the angle to the longeron. Obviously I will need to
drill out this rivet. I could not tell, looking back at section 29
where these pieces are installed whether that hole was supposed to be
riveted or the thrillers in Manila just filled it because it was
there.
Kelly
40866, Sec 43..aka fiberglass fun(Not)
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| Subject: | Re: Cabin Cover..minor glitch |
there should be 5 holes under the bracket. The holes you are drilling will get
screws to hold the door frame. The rivets in the post angle should all be in
at this point
--------
eric gohr
EGOHR86@alumni.carnegiemellon.edu
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| Subject: | Re: RTV vs ProSeal on Firewall |
I used the red silicone to fill the corners of the recessed box on the
firewall, and used it to 'glue' thin red silicone sheet to the flapper
on the cabin heat valve so it'd seal really well.
Acceptable??? Only you will be able to answer that!!! :-P
Linn
Sean Stephens wrote:
>
> Is it acceptable practice to use red rtv in place of proseal where it
> is called out in the firewall sections such as the heater vents and
> the box corners? I realize red rtv is not a true fire barrier, but
> then neither is proseal at an upper range of +275 degrees.
>
> -Sean #40303
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RTV vs ProSeal on Firewall |
Rob Kochman wrote:
> "Continuous Operating Temperature not to exceed 120F (48C)."
>
> How hot do these firewalls get, anyway?
>
Good question. I'm more interested in fire prevention than fire control.
Linn
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Dave Saylor
> <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com
> <mailto:dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Sean,
>
> I'm not sure I'd use either one. We get this 3M fire sealant at
> Home Depot:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/25663eu
>
> It isn't expensive. One tube would do the whole firewall
> perimeter and misc. gaps.
>
> Dave Saylor
> AirCrafters
> 140 Aviation Way
> Watsonville, CA 95076
> 831-722-9141 Shop
> 831-750-0284 Cell
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Sean Stephens
> <sean@stephensville.com <mailto:sean@stephensville.com>> wrote:
>
> <sean@stephensville.com <mailto:sean@stephensville.com>>
>
> Is it acceptable practice to use red rtv in place of proseal
> where it is called out in the firewall sections such as the
> heater vents and the box corners? I realize red rtv is not a
> true fire barrier, but then neither is proseal at an upper
> range of +275 degrees.
>
> -Sean #40303
>
> ==========
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> Woodinville, WA (near Seattle)
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