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1. 03:37 AM - Another RV10 crash (Wayne Edgerton)
2. 04:26 AM - Re: Another RV10 crash (Tim Olson)
3. 05:02 AM - Re: Five point harness? (Tim Olson)
4. 05:25 AM - Another RV10 crash (Wayne Edgerton)
5. 07:36 AM - Re: Another RV10 crash (Miller John)
6. 07:42 AM - Re: RV-10 HQ (rleffler)
7. 08:05 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 HQ (Don McDonald)
8. 12:25 PM - Re: Re: iPhone Apps (fixitauto@aol.com)
9. 02:32 PM - Retaining Mcmaster carr door seal in place (jchang10)
10. 02:39 PM - "Doubletree Manufacturing" grommet Template issue (Eric_Kallio)
11. 03:02 PM - Re: Retaining Mcmaster carr door seal in place (jchang10)
12. 03:23 PM - Re: Retaining Mcmaster carr door seal in place (Fred Williams, M.D.)
13. 04:06 PM - Re: Retaining Mcmaster carr door seal in place (Bob Leffler)
14. 05:20 PM - Re: Re: RV-10 HQ (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
15. 05:35 PM - Re: Re: RV-10 HQ (Brent P. Humphreys)
16. 06:31 PM - Re: Retaining Mcmaster carr door seal in place (Les Kearney)
17. 07:01 PM - Re: Retaining Mcmaster carr door seal in place (Les Kearney)
18. 07:38 PM - Re: RV-10 HQ (bcondrey)
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| Subject: | Another RV10 crash |
Another RV10 has crashed in Denton, TX, which is just a short distance
from my airport. I didn't know these people. Apparently they crashed
shortly after take off and the plane ended up burning after it crashed.
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/stories/DN-den
toncrash_20met.ART.State.Edition1.2950b15.html
http://www.myfoxdfw.com/dpp/news/071910-1-dead-1-hurt-in-plane-crash
Wayne Edgerton N602WT
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| Subject: | Re: Another RV10 crash |
Wayne, you had me petrified for another black eye on the -10s, but
while this is sad and tragic and all, it wasn't an RV-10...
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=767GW
http://www.thekathrynreport.com/2010/07/tr-4-experimental-n767gw-1-dead-1-hurt.html
http://flightaware.com/resources/registration/N767GW
That tail was very spooky in that it kind of looks like an
RV-10 but it's a KIS Cruiser TR4, so it isn't someone from
our "family" of RV's thank goodness. Still sad, as it sounds
like a couple.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
On 7/20/2010 5:19 AM, Wayne Edgerton wrote:
> Another RV10 has crashed in Denton, TX, which is just a short distance
> from my airport. I didn't know these people. Apparently they crashed
> shortly after take off and the plane ended up burning after it crashed.
> http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/stories/DN-dentoncrash_20met.ART.State.Edition1.2950b15.html
> http://www.myfoxdfw.com/dpp/news/071910-1-dead-1-hurt-in-plane-crash
> Wayne Edgerton N602WT
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: Five point harness? |
Same here....the 4 points are far better with the kids than any of our
cars offer and they can crank them nice and tight.
Tim
On Jul 19, 2010, at 9:46 PM, Rick <ricksked@cox.net> wrote:
> Most of us cut that crotch tab off long ago. Even in heavy bumps
> none of my backseaters ever slid out or hit the lid.
>
> Rick S.
> N246RS
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 19, 2010, at 6:15 PM, "Richard Bibb" <rbibb@tomet.net> wrote:
>
>> I=99d go with four point. Simpler and its not like you=99r
e doing
>> acro in the -10.
>>
>> Richard Bibb
>>
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-
>> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Froehlich
>> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 7:23 PM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RV10-List: Five point harness?
>>
>> All,
>>
>> Looking for the general consensus, 5 point harness for the rear
>> seats or 4 point?
>>
>> Carl Froehlich
>> RV-8A (540 hrs)
>> RV-10 (systems install)
>>
>>
>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>> http://forums.matronics.com
>> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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ntribution
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| Subject: | Another RV10 crash |
I made a mistake in my recent post about an RV10 crash. Tim O did a little
more research than me and found that it's not an RV10, see his email to me
below. Sorry for the misinformation, but boy that sure looks like a 10, what
is left of it.
Wayne Edgerton N602WT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@myrv10.com>
Cc: "Wayne Edgerton" <w.edgerton@verizon.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 6:24 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Another RV10 crash
> Wayne, you had me petrified for another black eye on the -10s, but
> while this is sad and tragic and all, it wasn't an RV-10...
>
> http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=767GW
>
> http://www.thekathrynreport.com/2010/07/tr-4-experimental-n767gw-1-dead-1-hurt.html
>
> http://flightaware.com/resources/registration/N767GW
>
> That tail was very spooky in that it kind of looks like an
> RV-10 but it's a KIS Cruiser TR4, so it isn't someone from
> our "family" of RV's thank goodness. Still sad, as it sounds
> like a couple.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
>
>
> On 7/20/2010 5:19 AM, Wayne Edgerton wrote:
>> Another RV10 has crashed in Denton, TX, which is just a short distance
>> from my airport. I didn't know these people. Apparently they crashed
>> shortly after take off and the plane ended up burning after it crashed.
>> http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/stories/DN-dentoncrash_20met.ART.State.Edition1.2950b15.html
>> http://www.myfoxdfw.com/dpp/news/071910-1-dead-1-hurt-in-plane-crash
>> Wayne Edgerton N602WT
>>
>> *
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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
13:36:00
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| Subject: | Re: Another RV10 crash |
It appears that this was NOT an RV 10 (tail section looks different in
the picture).
Here is from the FAA incident report:
IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 767GW Make/Model: EXP Description: TR-4
Date: 07/19/2010 Time: 0012
Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: Serious Mid Air: N
Missing: N
Damage: Destroyed
LOCATION
City: DENTON State: TX Country: US
DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT SHORTLY AFTER DEPARTURE, CRASHED INTO AN OPEN FIELD AND
CAUGHT
FIRE, NEAR DENTON, TX
INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 2 Min:
0 Unk:
# Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min:
0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min:
0 Unk:
WEATHER: VFR
OTHER DATA
Activity: Pleasure Phase: Take-off Operation: OTHER
FAA FSDO: FORT WORTH, TX (SW19) Entry date:
07/19/2010
On Jul 20, 2010, at 5:19 AM, Wayne Edgerton wrote:
> Another RV10 has crashed in Denton, TX, which is just a short
> distance from my airport. I didn't know these people. Apparently
> they crashed shortly after take off and the plane ended up burning
> after it crashed.
>
>
> http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/stories/DN-dentoncrash_20met.ART.State.Edition1.2950b15.html
>
> http://www.myfoxdfw.com/dpp/news/071910-1-dead-1-hurt-in-plane-crash
>
> Wayne Edgerton N602WT
>
>
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Any chance of getting a RV-10 HQ Campsite layout like you've done in previous years?
I also wanted to thank Bob, Susan, Gary, and Brenda for all the effort they put
into making the RV-10 HQ happen.
thanks,
bob
--------
Bob Leffler
N410BL - Finish
RV-10 #40684
http://mykitlog.com/rleffler
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I'll second third and fourth the thanks to all those on the grounds there a
lready setting this thing up for the rest of us.- The updates are great.
- Hopefully, we'll see you in a few days.
Don McDonald
--- On Tue, 7/20/10, rleffler <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
From: rleffler <rv@thelefflers.com>
Subject: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 HQ
Any chance of getting a RV-10 HQ Campsite layout like you've done in previo
us years?
I also wanted to thank Bob, Susan, Gary, and Brenda for all the effort they
put into making the RV-10 HQ happen.
thanks,
bob
--------
Bob Leffler
N410BL - Finish
RV-10 #40684
http://mykitlog.com/rleffler
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le, List Admin.
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CAN I REALLY GET ONE FROM WALGREENS
-----Original Message-----
From: RV Builder (Michael Sausen) <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
Sent: Mon, Jul 19, 2010 12:30 pm
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: iPhone Apps
rvbuilder@sausen.net>
My personal favorite......
http://techcrunch.com/2010/06/28/iphone-4-vs-evo-4g/
do not archive
----Original Message-----
rom: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com]
n Behalf Of Jesse Saint
ent: Monday, July 19, 2010 10:34 AM
o: rv10-list@matronics.com
ubject: Re: RV10-List: Re: iPhone Apps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKIcaejkpD4
do not archive
Jesse Saint
aint Aviation, Inc.
esse@saintaviation.com
: 352-427-0285
: 815-377-3694
On Jul 18, 2010, at 5:34 PM, Robin Marks wrote:
You know what the iPad & iPhone have in common? Neither make phone calls.
See you all at OSH.
Robin
Do Not Archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 2:15 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: iPhone Apps
Ditto here. I have skycharts, foreflight, and wingx. Foreflight is
my favorite. They are all different in some way. They all have ipad
versions that are even nicer than on the iPhone. Foreflight is the
only one that transfers your subscription to both devices.
Tim
On Jul 18, 2010, at 2:13 PM, "egohr1"
<EGOHR86@alumni.carnegiemellon.edu> wrote:
<EGOHR86@alumni.carnegiemellon.edu
>>
>
> I have a Iphone and foreflight. I love the app on the Iphone, but
> the best is the foreflight on the Ipad.
>
> One foreflight subscription works for both devices.
>
> --------
> eric gohr
> EGOHR86@alumni.carnegiemellon.edu
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305331#305331
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| Subject: | Retaining Mcmaster carr door seal in place |
I finally decided to use the same mcmaster carr seal. in the process of trimming
the door frame to make room for the seal, i was curious about what others may
have done to keep the door seal in place.
you can see in the picture linked below, that it would be great to make that barb
useful. the barb is located on the interior, to minimize the amount of distortion
the seal makes on the door.
however, now would be a good time to find a solution to use that barb. the possible
options i can think of are:
1. create a channel or lip to catch the barb. the tricky part is that the edge
tapers quite a bit on the end.
2. build up a channel or lip. thus, how to build it up nicely?
3. do nothing at all and glue it in.
thus, i'm left pondering what approach the many others who have gone down this
path have taken?
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_E3nI7J8M6Iw/TEYT7M07YnI/AAAAAAAAB80/85rOXQ2Amsk/s640/IMG_0010.JPG
Jae
40533
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| Subject: | "Doubletree Manufacturing" grommet Template issue |
I installed the metal spherical eye grommets on the firewall today for the control
cables. The engine is on so this was an even more challenging task than normal.
The first one was drilled right on the template...so I thought...but the
holes on one end weren't even close. Took awhile to fix that. On the second one
I figure I let the drill drift , or the template shifted on the first one.
I was going to pay real good attention this time. Wasn't going to make the same
mistake twice. Son of a *&#@^! Same results and more fixing of misplaced holes.
Took a closer look at the template provided by the manufacturer and it was
off on the length by 1/16". After a lengthy bout with Tourette's syndrome and
some funny looks from the neighbors. Made my own template and the third went
fine.
The template provided with the grommets from "Doubletree Manufacturing" is off!
If you have any of these check it against the retainer and make your own template.
Don't remember who the vendor was but it isn't really there fault. The products
themselves are great, just watch your drilling locations. Sorry, for
the long winded rant...I'm going for a beer, that'll help.
Eric Kallio
Still messing around with the cowl and plenum.
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| Subject: | Re: Retaining Mcmaster carr door seal in place |
I was playing with some tape to simulate what a built up layer would do. It works
surprisingly well. Sorry for thinking out loud here...
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_E3nI7J8M6Iw/TEYa-nBI0SI/AAAAAAAAB9g/u7qR8gplE2c/IMG_0011.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: Retaining Mcmaster carr door seal in place |
Jay;
I know this sounds simple, but did you squeeze the seal? I was able to
make it tighter just by compressing the metal in the seal.
Dr Fred.
515FW
Oshkosh bound Saturday.
jchang10 wrote:
>
> I finally decided to use the same mcmaster carr seal. in the process of trimming
the door frame to make room for the seal, i was curious about what others
may have done to keep the door seal in place.
>
> you can see in the picture linked below, that it would be great to make that
barb useful. the barb is located on the interior, to minimize the amount of distortion
the seal makes on the door.
>
> however, now would be a good time to find a solution to use that barb. the possible
options i can think of are:
>
> 1. create a channel or lip to catch the barb. the tricky part is that the edge
tapers quite a bit on the end.
>
> 2. build up a channel or lip. thus, how to build it up nicely?
>
> 3. do nothing at all and glue it in.
>
> thus, i'm left pondering what approach the many others who have gone down this
path have taken?
>
> http://lh6.ggpht.com/_E3nI7J8M6Iw/TEYT7M07YnI/AAAAAAAAB80/85rOXQ2Amsk/s640/IMG_0010.JPG
>
> Jae
> 40533
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305641#305641
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Retaining Mcmaster carr door seal in place |
This what I did, which I've copied from several other builders that did the
same before me.
When you trim the rain gutter, trim in square so the trim installs in the
appropriate orientation. You will have to build up portions of the rain
gutter to 1/4". The best method is to use thin strips of glass since there
are places that you'll need to build up over 1/8". So folks have just used
micro or flox, but I think using fiberglass strips will make it stronger.
There are some places where you may also need to sand a flat area on the
back side to get a good grip.
Ivan Kristensen and Geoff Combs have good photos on their sites. Ivan also
has a video showing the dimensions on his rain gutter after trimming. I've
tried pulling off the seal on Geoff's RV-10. It's almost impossible to get
off and it's not glued. He just built up the edge so the fit is very tight.
Les Kearney wrote a doc on how he did his door seals. I can forward a copy
if anyone wants it. He also filled in the rear of the seal so it's smooth
on the interior. Basically making a channel for the seal to sit in.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jchang10
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 5:32 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Retaining Mcmaster carr door seal in place
--> <jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com>
I finally decided to use the same mcmaster carr seal. in the process of
trimming the door frame to make room for the seal, i was curious about what
others may have done to keep the door seal in place.
you can see in the picture linked below, that it would be great to make that
barb useful. the barb is located on the interior, to minimize the amount of
distortion the seal makes on the door.
however, now would be a good time to find a solution to use that barb. the
possible options i can think of are:
1. create a channel or lip to catch the barb. the tricky part is that the
edge tapers quite a bit on the end.
2. build up a channel or lip. thus, how to build it up nicely?
3. do nothing at all and glue it in.
thus, i'm left pondering what approach the many others who have gone down
this path have taken?
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_E3nI7J8M6Iw/TEYT7M07YnI/AAAAAAAAB80/85rOXQ2Amsk/s640/I
MG_0010.JPG
Jae
40533
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Later this evening - connectivity issues here.
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>
Sent: Tue Jul 20 07:41:57 2010
Subject: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 HQ
Any chance of getting a RV-10 HQ Campsite layout like you've done in previous years?
I also wanted to thank Bob, Susan, Gary, and Brenda for all the effort they put
into making the RV-10 HQ happen.
thanks,
bob
--------
Bob Leffler
N410BL - Finish
RV-10 #40684
http://mykitlog.com/rleffler
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I will have a Verizon Mifi that will support up to 5 users at a time.
We will be in HQ Saturday. Anyone needing a connection will be welcome
to connect.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Condrey, Bob
(US SSA)
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 HQ
--> <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
Later this evening - connectivity issues here.
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
<owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>
Sent: Tue Jul 20 07:41:57 2010
Subject: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 HQ
Any chance of getting a RV-10 HQ Campsite layout like you've done in
previous years?
I also wanted to thank Bob, Susan, Gary, and Brenda for all the effort
they put into making the RV-10 HQ happen.
thanks,
bob
--------
Bob Leffler
N410BL - Finish
RV-10 #40684
http://mykitlog.com/rleffler
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| Subject: | Retaining Mcmaster carr door seal in place |
Hi
Here is the document Fred mentioned. I sent a few emails describing what I
did to Pat Pulis in Australia who converted them into a small Word Doc.
My doors are largely done and close quite nicely - not perfect but pretty
good. The techniques are all borrowed from those who have gone before so I
take no credit whatsoever.
The one thing that made a HUGE difference was not installing screws in the
door frame until after the doors were fitted. Being able to move the door
frame in by an 1/8th of an inch on one side made a very tight door easy to
close.
I also found the door latches close much easier if lubricated with white
grease. There is a lot of internal friction in the stock Van's setup - or so
I found.
When fitting and adjusting the doors and gap, be sure to have all the door
hardware installed - especially the door openers. I found these do affect
the geometry and how easily the doors open / close.
Cheers
Les
#40643
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: July-20-10 5:06 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Retaining Mcmaster carr door seal in place
This what I did, which I've copied from several other builders that did the
same before me.
When you trim the rain gutter, trim in square so the trim installs in the
appropriate orientation. You will have to build up portions of the rain
gutter to 1/4". The best method is to use thin strips of glass since there
are places that you'll need to build up over 1/8". So folks have just used
micro or flox, but I think using fiberglass strips will make it stronger.
There are some places where you may also need to sand a flat area on the
back side to get a good grip.
Ivan Kristensen and Geoff Combs have good photos on their sites. Ivan also
has a video showing the dimensions on his rain gutter after trimming. I've
tried pulling off the seal on Geoff's RV-10. It's almost impossible to get
off and it's not glued. He just built up the edge so the fit is very tight.
Les Kearney wrote a doc on how he did his door seals. I can forward a copy
if anyone wants it. He also filled in the rear of the seal so it's smooth
on the interior. Basically making a channel for the seal to sit in.
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jchang10
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 5:32 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Retaining Mcmaster carr door seal in place
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I finally decided to use the same mcmaster carr seal. in the process of
trimming the door frame to make room for the seal, i was curious about what
others may have done to keep the door seal in place.
you can see in the picture linked below, that it would be great to make that
barb useful. the barb is located on the interior, to minimize the amount of
distortion the seal makes on the door.
however, now would be a good time to find a solution to use that barb. the
possible options i can think of are:
1. create a channel or lip to catch the barb. the tricky part is that the
edge tapers quite a bit on the end.
2. build up a channel or lip. thus, how to build it up nicely?
3. do nothing at all and glue it in.
thus, i'm left pondering what approach the many others who have gone down
this path have taken?
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_E3nI7J8M6Iw/TEYT7M07YnI/AAAAAAAAB80/85rOXQ2Amsk/s640/I
MG_0010.JPG
Jae
40533
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Hi
Here is the document Fred mentioned. I sent a few emails describing what I
did to Pat Pulis in Australia who converted them into a small Word Doc.
My doors are largely done and close quite nicely - not perfect but pretty
good. The techniques are all borrowed from those who have gone before so I
take no credit whatsoever.
The one thing that made a HUGE difference was not installing screws in the
door frame until after the doors were fitted. Being able to move the door
frame in by an 1/8th of an inch on one side made a very tight door easy to
close.
I also found the door latches close much easier if lubricated with white
grease. There is a lot of internal friction in the stock Van's setup - or so
I found.
When fitting and adjusting the doors and gap, be sure to have all the door
hardware installed - especially the door openers. I found these do affect
the geometry and how easily the doors open / close.
Cheers
Les
#40643
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: July-20-10 5:06 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Retaining Mcmaster carr door seal in place
This what I did, which I've copied from several other builders that did the
same before me.
When you trim the rain gutter, trim in square so the trim installs in the
appropriate orientation. You will have to build up portions of the rain
gutter to 1/4". The best method is to use thin strips of glass since there
are places that you'll need to build up over 1/8". So folks have just used
micro or flox, but I think using fiberglass strips will make it stronger.
There are some places where you may also need to sand a flat area on the
back side to get a good grip.
Ivan Kristensen and Geoff Combs have good photos on their sites. Ivan also
has a video showing the dimensions on his rain gutter after trimming. I've
tried pulling off the seal on Geoff's RV-10. It's almost impossible to get
off and it's not glued. He just built up the edge so the fit is very tight.
Les Kearney wrote a doc on how he did his door seals. I can forward a copy
if anyone wants it. He also filled in the rear of the seal so it's smooth
on the interior. Basically making a channel for the seal to sit in.
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jchang10
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 5:32 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Retaining Mcmaster carr door seal in place
--> <jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com>
I finally decided to use the same mcmaster carr seal. in the process of
trimming the door frame to make room for the seal, i was curious about what
others may have done to keep the door seal in place.
you can see in the picture linked below, that it would be great to make that
barb useful. the barb is located on the interior, to minimize the amount of
distortion the seal makes on the door.
however, now would be a good time to find a solution to use that barb. the
possible options i can think of are:
1. create a channel or lip to catch the barb. the tricky part is that the
edge tapers quite a bit on the end.
2. build up a channel or lip. thus, how to build it up nicely?
3. do nothing at all and glue it in.
thus, i'm left pondering what approach the many others who have gone down
this path have taken?
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_E3nI7J8M6Iw/TEYT7M07YnI/AAAAAAAAB80/85rOXQ2Amsk/s640/I
MG_0010.JPG
Jae
40533
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For those attending OSH, attached is the tentative layout of the RV-10 HQ camping
area. This year in addition to the camping crowds getting here much earlier,
there is the water to deal with. In prior years folks seemed to have preference
for being stretched out along a single road but with the swampy areas it
just wasn't possible. The layout is tentative because folks always have the
option of swapping when they get here.
I've highlighted the RV-10 group area in green to make it easy for those not camping
with us to find it. We have several picnic tables and are up to 500 square
feet of canopy shade space. We'll be adding another 200 square feet to that
tomorrow (courtesy of Michael).
We've used our discretion in where we've placed specific people based on either
camping vehicle size, consideration for tents (dry high ground), etc. For those
wondering, Dave Leikam specifically requested the same site he had last year
and it happened to be open but nothing adjacent to it was.
The map is not to scale but the sites for those with motorhomes are larger than
those with tents and the relative positions are accurate.
Bob
RV-10 N442PM
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