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1. 05:19 AM - Re: RV-10 HQ - OSH10 (gary)
2. 05:20 AM - Re: Re: Canopy Covers (gary)
3. 09:23 AM - Re: RV-10 HQ - OSH10 (Geoff Combs)
4. 09:23 AM - Doors & gas struts (jayb)
5. 09:59 AM - Wings and Finish Kits... (Phillip Perry)
6. 10:46 AM - Re: Wings and Finish Kits... (Kelly McMullen)
7. 11:51 AM - Re: trip efficiency (Linn Walters)
8. 01:00 PM - Re: trip efficiency (Ron B.)
9. 01:13 PM - Re: KOSH flight fuel expense (Strasnuts)
10. 01:14 PM - Re: Re: trip efficiency (Tim Olson)
11. 01:25 PM - Re: Re: trip efficiency (Linn Walters)
12. 01:34 PM - Re: Re: trip efficiency (Jesse Saint)
13. 03:22 PM - Re: Wings and Finish Kits... (Eric_Kallio)
14. 04:16 PM - Re: Re: trip efficiency (Alan Mekler)
15. 05:07 PM - Re: RV-10 HQ - OSH10 (Phillip Perry)
16. 06:00 PM - Re: RV-10 HQ - OSH10 (Vijay Pisini)
17. 06:38 PM - WTB: Wing Kit (Brent P. Humphreys)
18. 06:57 PM - RV 10 Quick build Kit and Engine for sale (David Boone)
19. 07:00 PM - Re: WTB: Wing Kit (Tom Koelzer)
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| Subject: | RV-10 HQ - OSH10 |
You are welcome. Good to see RV10 friends again.
Gary
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 4:52 PM
Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 HQ - OSH10
I wanted to thank Bob, Gary, and Neal for setting up RV-10 HQ again this
year. While the weather wasn't the best at the beginning, it turned out to
be a great week. Especially getting to see all the fellow RV-10 builders
again. I also wanted to thank Brenda, Susan, and Ally (sp?) for hosting the
dinners.
I hope those that stayed through the weekend experienced a great night
airshow.
Counting down the days until next year...
bob
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| Subject: | Re: Canopy Covers |
Now that you are back home, wash the cover to remove all that fine grit that
gets up under the cover and sticks in the soft inner lining. If left as is
over time it will build up enough grit to scratch the windows and paint when
the wind blows hard. Ask me how I know!
Gary Specketer
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AirMike
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 12:21 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Canopy Covers
I got a Bruce's cover at OSH two years ago. This was it's first real acid
test at OSH this summer - performed great.....lots of rain. Real important
is the super soft inside that rides against the canopy and does not seem to
scratch it. They seem to have many custom permutations to fit your specific
needs . I recommend.
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OSH '10 or Bust
Q/B - finally done
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| Subject: | RV-10 HQ - OSH10 |
I would also like to personally Thank Gary,Bob,Neal and of course
Brenda,
Sue and Ally. The RV-10 HQ was in fine shape given the weather.
Gary thanks again for the use of your Tracker or (tractor). Enjoyed
meeting
the new and seeing the old faces
again. Putting a name with a face really helps.
Great Job guys and many Thanks
Geoff
Geoff Combs
President
Aerosport Modeling & Design
8090 Howe Industrial Parkway
Canal Winchester, Ohio 43110
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 5:52 PM
Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 HQ - OSH10
I wanted to thank Bob, Gary, and Neal for setting up RV-10 HQ again this
year. While the weather wasn't the best at the beginning, it turned out
to
be a great week. Especially getting to see all the fellow RV-10
builders
again. I also wanted to thank Brenda, Susan, and Ally (sp?) for hosting
the
dinners.
I hope those that stayed through the weekend experienced a great night
airshow.
Counting down the days until next year...
bob
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| Subject: | Doors & gas struts |
They've been hanging there long enough... staring at me in all their ill-fitting
glory. After many hours filing and sanding, my doors sort of fit. Anyone approaching
this point should take a look at Deems website as it's very helpful.
A couple of questions...
Gas Struts - I searched the archives and found a couple people mentioned getting
upgraded struts. Cost? Sources? Really necessary? Are they drop in replacements?
Sounds like the standard Vans-supplied part is about to join other dead parts
in my orange Homer Bucket.
DISCOAT 4220 - Wish I'd have known about it before installing windows... Hadn't
heard anyone mention this stuff. Found it until poking around on Deems website.
Looks really useful!
Cheers,
Jay
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| Subject: | Wings and Finish Kits... |
It was good seeing everyone at OSH. The food and folks were great - in that
order. :)
I'm getting ready to swipe the debit card for the wing and finish kits.
Are there any obvious items that I should consider omiting? The fuse is
already in-house.
Phil
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| Subject: | Re: Wings and Finish Kits... |
Search the archives on the finish kit. There are several things to
omit, like nose wheel and axle.
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com> wrote:
> It was good seeing everyone at OSH. The food and folks were great- in that
> order. :)
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> I'm getting ready to swipe the debit card for the wing and finish kits.
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> Are there any obvious items that I should consider omiting? The fuse is
> already in-house.
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> Phil
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| Subject: | Re: trip efficiency |
Linn Walters wrote:
> With y'all talking about your OSH trip and how nice it was to fly, I
> was thinking of a way to rate the efficiency of flying to driving, and
> gave it a stab.
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> The trip is X59, (Valkaria FL) to OSH.
> The numbers may not be totally accurate, and some assumptions made.
> By car:
> DIST 1412 miles
> SPD 62 MPH
> MPG 30
> GPH 2
> TIME 22.75 Hours
> (from MapQuest)
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> By RV-10
> DIST 1034 Miles
> SPD 175 MPH
> GPH 10
> TIME 5.9 Hours
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> The 'formula' is DISTANCE/(TIME * GPH)
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> The 'efficiency' then is 25.86 by car and 17.52 by RV-10.
> What's surprising to me is the 'time * GPH' (gallons for the
> trip)..... which is 54.6 for the car, and only 59 for the RV10.
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> Any comments???
> Linn
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| Subject: | Re: trip efficiency |
I'm no expert with only 22 hrs on the meter, but 10 GPH seems very low to me? More
like 14 per hr.
Ron
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| Subject: | Re: KOSH flight fuel expense |
After I thought I was so careful watching numbers I forgot Scott took a 30 to 45
minute flight at OSH using the total gallons and cost so the numbers are actually
a little better than what I originally posted.
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Cust. #40936
RV-10 SB Fuselage
N801VR reserved
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| Subject: | Re: trip efficiency |
Nah, my AVERAGE fuel burn for an entire flight is usually
around 10gph, if I take total hours and total gallons.
When you run LOP, you'll have fuel burns into the 7's
with probably 11.5 or so being the HIGH end of fuel flows.
Switch it to ROP flying and you're right...14 or so is a
good number. I burn 13.5-15 usually when ROP.
I flight plan 160kts and 14gph. In reality, I end up
usually a tad bit faster, and can plan on 10-10.5gph
for most any flight, as long as I can get up above
7 or 8000'. If I'm stuck "under the weather", then I
have to revert to the 14gph planned number.
That's why I find it nice to have fuel price info on board
when I fly, using Voyager....my flight plans always show
me at destinations reachable with 14gph flows, but I
typically can do much better, so if I've been cruising
for 3 hours LOP, I may need to search for a better
fuel stop that clears me from whatever weather is around,
and is reachable at my real burn rate. I could pre-plan
multiple options, but I find in the real world, your
weather diversions may make some plans not work out
anyway, if you're staying VFR.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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On 8/2/2010 2:58 PM, Ron B. wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Ron B."<cfxoa@klis.com>
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> I'm no expert with only 22 hrs on the meter, but 10 GPH seems very low to me?
More like 14 per hr.
> Ron
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| Subject: | Re: trip efficiency |
Thanks for the data point .... You've got 22 hours on me!!! And that's
only 175 MPH. More data points needed!
Linn
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| Subject: | Re: trip efficiency |
I flew nonstop from X35 (north central FL) to KRHI (north WI) just before the show.
I was a 16,000 ft burning 9.5 gph just rich of peak (headwinds most of the
trip, so I needed some speed), getting about 165 ktas. I burned 71 gals on
the 1,090 nm trip in 7:08. It was a great flight and very economical. You can
check out the trip log on flight aware for N256H. You can actually get more
efficiency if you lean it past peak. I have seen fuel flows of under 8 gph
in high altitude cruise before, although it's best to do that, IMHO, when you
have winds at your back.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
On Aug 2, 2010, at 3:58 PM, Ron B. wrote:
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More like 14 per hr.
> Ron
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| Subject: | Re: Wings and Finish Kits... |
After just receiving my intersection fairings from Jan Hanekom's site at rvbits.com,
I would certainly go with those over Vans intersection fairings. There are
many other recommendations in the archives. These kits involve alot of builder
preference.
Eric Kallio
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| Subject: | Re: trip efficiency |
Jesse,
You must carry more than 60 gallons of fuel.
Alan
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: trip efficiency
I flew nonstop from X35 (north central FL) to KRHI (north WI) just before
the show. I was a 16,000 ft burning 9.5 gph just rich of peak (headwinds
most of the trip, so I needed some speed), getting about 165 ktas. I burned
71 gals on the 1,090 nm trip in 7:08. It was a great flight and very
economical. You can check out the trip log on flight aware for N256H. You
can actually get more efficiency if you lean it past peak. I have seen fuel
flows of under 8 gph in high altitude cruise before, although it's best to
do that, IMHO, when you have winds at your back.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
On Aug 2, 2010, at 3:58 PM, Ron B. wrote:
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me? More like 14 per hr.
> Ron
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 HQ - OSH10 |
*I want to throw in my appreciation to those who coordinated the RV-10 HQ
too.
Our plans originally had us staying at a cabin in Sleepy Hollow Farms, but
that didn't work out. We were lucky to find a room in Appleton at the
Holiday Inn. This cut down the amount of time we could spend with the
fellow RV-10 crowd, but we had a great time when we were able to get over to
54th and Lindbergh.
I especially want to thank John Cox for providing local beer. After a full
day of crowds and 100LL, it hit the spot. :)
Most importantly, I think the ladies really enjoyed themselves too. Despite
having a fun little 3 month old boy constantly attached to her, Sara enjoyed
herself. She also commented how much fun the RV-10 crowd was.
We'll see you all in 51 weeks, if not sooner.
Phil
*
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 HQ - OSH10 |
Thank you all RV-10'ers at HQ.=C2- It is my first camping with you all an
d you all =0Amade me feel welcome.=C2- Good to see you all in person and
put a name to a face.=C2- =0AThe discussions are very helpful.=C2- Spec
ial thanks to the ladies.=C2- Wanted to meet =0ATim and Scott and say hel
lo, but missed them.=0A=0ANeal and Gary, thanks for picking us from the gat
e with all the luggage.=C2- Bob C, =0Athanks for co-ordinating all the HQ
set-up and for driving us to the Bus Park =0Aand all the pointers in build
process.=C2- Adrian, thanks for spending some time =0Awith me...see you
& Mari in Boone some time...=0A=0ADon, Dave (Houston), Bob L, John (9A), Me
l, Brian, Deems, Bob N (TCW), Geoff, =0ASusan (and the grand kids), Brenda,
Alli (and the kids), Judy, Lenel...nice =0Ameeting you all at HQ.=C2- Wi
ll be there next year...=0A=0A=0Avj=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_________________________
_______=0AFrom: Geoff Combs <g.combs@aerosportmodeling.com>=0ATo: rv10-list
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List: RV-10 HQ - OSH10=0A=0A=0AI would also like to personally Thank Gary,B
ob,Neal and of course Brenda, Sue =0Aand Ally. The RV-10 HQ was in fine sha
pe given the weather.=0AGary thanks again for the use of your Tracker or (t
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I am getting ready to place my order for the wings, and I thought I
would check here to see if anyone has a wing kit that they would like to
sell?
Van's has a 12 week lead time posted for the wing kit.
Does anyone have any recent experience with actual wait times?
--
Brent Humphreys
RV-10 #40873
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| Subject: | RV 10 Quick build Kit and Engine for sale |
Unfortunately, in the last 6 months I have been unable to work on the 10, it
appears that my work schedule will not change in the foreseeable future and
I have decided to sell the 10, I plan on selling it for Vans replacement
costs if I can. There is probably 600 to 800 hours of work top quality work
completed. The doors are hanging on the fuselage. The engine (C4B5) is
rebuilt to new spec's for twin electronic ignition (not included), if
someone is planning for a single or dual Mags, the "gears" would have to be
added. I would prefer to sell the engine and kit together but will separate
if I am I cannot sell them together. I am located in Chesapeake Va. E-mail
david555@cox.net
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brent P.
Humphreys
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 9:38 PM
Subject: RV10-List: WTB: Wing Kit
<bhumphreys@stonetek.com>
I am getting ready to place my order for the wings, and I thought I
would check here to see if anyone has a wing kit that they would like to
sell?
Van's has a 12 week lead time posted for the wing kit.
Does anyone have any recent experience with actual wait times?
--
Brent Humphreys
RV-10 #40873
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| Subject: | Re: WTB: Wing Kit |
My long build wing quote was also 12 weeks, but really took 14 weeks for a March
2010 delivery.
Tom Koelzer
RV-10 #40950 Wings
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On Aug 2, 2010, at 8:37 PM, Brent P. Humphreys wrote:
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> I am getting ready to place my order for the wings, and I thought I
> would check here to see if anyone has a wing kit that they would like to
> sell?
>
> Van's has a 12 week lead time posted for the wing kit.
>
> Does anyone have any recent experience with actual wait times?
> --
> Brent Humphreys
> RV-10 #40873
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