Today's Message Index:
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1. 06:22 AM - Re: Flight tracker (Lew Gallagher)
2. 06:36 AM - Re: Re: Flight tracker (Brent P. Humphreys)
3. 06:36 AM - Overhead Console Airflow (Michael Kraus)
4. 07:34 AM - Re: Overhead Console Airflow (Fred Williams, M.D.)
5. 07:44 AM - Re: Overhead Console Airflow (Linn Walters)
6. 08:23 AM - Re: Overhead Console Airflow (Geoff Combs)
7. 09:13 AM - Re: Overhead Console Airflow (Robin Marks)
8. 09:24 AM - Re: Flight tracker (AirMike)
9. 09:46 AM - Re: Re: Flight tracker (DLM)
10. 10:07 AM - Re: Overhead Console Airflow (Jae Chang)
11. 11:35 AM - Re: Re: Flight tracker (Lew Gallagher)
12. 12:10 PM - Re: Re: Flight tracker (Tim Olson)
13. 01:23 PM - Re: Overhead Console Airflow (dmaib@me.com)
14. 03:47 PM - GPS and ELT Antennae mounting (Jeff Carpenter)
15. 03:57 PM - Re: Overhead Console Airflow (rvdave)
16. 04:03 PM - Re: Re: Overhead Console Airflow (Geoff Combs)
17. 05:08 PM - Re: Overhead Console Airflow (dmaib@me.com)
18. 05:17 PM - Re: Overhead Console Airflow (dmaib@me.com)
19. 05:31 PM - Re: GPS and ELT Antennae mounting (dmaib@me.com)
20. 05:50 PM - Re: Re: GPS and ELT Antennae mounting (Jeff Carpenter)
21. 06:08 PM - Re: Re: GPS and ELT Antennae mounting (Carl Froehlich)
22. 06:24 PM - Re: Re: GPS and ELT Antennae mounting (Kelly McMullen)
23. 06:33 PM - Re: Re: GPS and ELT Antennae mounting (John Cumins)
24. 06:47 PM - Plane power Vs B&C Alternators (Patrick Pulis)
25. 06:58 PM - Re: Re: GPS and ELT Antennae mounting (Carl Froehlich)
26. 07:03 PM - Re: Re: GPS and ELT Antennae mounting (Rene Felker)
27. 07:17 PM - Re: Plane power Vs B&C Alternators (zackrv8)
28. 07:46 PM - Re: Re: GPS and ELT Antennae mounting (Patrick Thyssen)
29. 08:08 PM - Re: Overhead Console Airflow (rvdave)
30. 09:22 PM - Re: Re: GPS and ELT Antennae mounting (Kelly McMullen)
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| Subject: | Re: Flight tracker |
Thanks for the responses.
I am tracking him at this moment on FlightAware (9:20 AM, arrival 11:22AM). N620EB
I am just refreshing every few minutes, is that the only way to get "live" tracking?
Later, - Lew
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NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
Fly off completed !
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| Subject: | Re: Flight tracker |
On my browser flightaware will refresh every few minutes on its own.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lew Gallagher
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 8:21 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Flight tracker
Thanks for the responses.
I am tracking him at this moment on FlightAware (9:20 AM, arrival
11:22AM). N620EB
I am just refreshing every few minutes, is that the only way to get
"live" tracking?
Later, - Lew
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non-pilot
crazy about building
NOW OFICIALLY BUILDER #40549
Fly off completed !
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| Subject: | Overhead Console Airflow |
Another overhead console question:
Do you get enough airflow, and in the right location from the overhead conso
le only? I am thinking of only using the overhead vents for the front seat.
.... Unless they don't have enough airflow or airflow not in the right plac
es.....
Sent from my iPhone
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead Console Airflow |
You need both. I would not jut put in the overhead. I just don't think
you would be happy in the long run. I still use the side vents for the
front seats the most.
Dr Fred.
Michael Kraus wrote:
> Another overhead console question:
>
> Do you get enough airflow, and in the right location from the overhead
> console only? I am thinking of only using the overhead vents for the
> front seat..... Unless they don't have enough airflow or airflow not
> in the right places.....
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead Console Airflow |
No real world experience since I'm building, but I'm installing the
normal front seat air vents, and adding the overhead console with air
vents for front and rear seats. Only one NACA scoop on the right side
behind baggage area feeds the OH console (from other comments here). I
also covered over the rear side vents that appears to cool the belly
buttons of the rear pass. I'll be flying mostly in FL, and that means
those draggy vents will be open most all of the time. Plus the crappy
little arm as a way of opening/closing the vent didn't strike me as
aesthetically pleasing..
Linn
Michael Kraus wrote:
> Another overhead console question:
>
> Do you get enough airflow, and in the right location from the overhead
> console only? I am thinking of only using the overhead vents for the
> front seat..... Unless they don't have enough airflow or airflow not
> in the right places.....
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Overhead Console Airflow |
I would not cover up the side vents. I have both overhead vents and side
vents. Passengers like both of them. More vents the better.
Just my 2 cents worth after 135 hrs flying and one of the hottest
summers in
Ohio recently
Geoff
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Linn Walters
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Overhead Console Airflow
No real world experience since I'm building, but I'm installing the
normal
front seat air vents, and adding the overhead console with air vents for
front and rear seats. Only one NACA scoop on the right side behind
baggage
area feeds the OH console (from other comments here). I also covered
over
the rear side vents that appears to cool the belly buttons of the rear
pass.
I'll be flying mostly in FL, and that means those draggy vents will be
open
most all of the time. Plus the crappy little arm as a way of
opening/closing the vent didn't strike me as aesthetically pleasing..
Linn
Michael Kraus wrote:
Another overhead console question:
Do you get enough airflow, and in the right location from the overhead
console only? I am thinking of only using the overhead vents for the
front
seat..... Unless they don't have enough airflow or airflow not in the
right
places.....
Sent from my iPhone
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| Subject: | Overhead Console Airflow |
Message
Agreed!
Robin
*From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Geoff Combs
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 11, 2010 8:23 AM
*To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
*Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Overhead Console Airflow
I would not cover up the side vents. I have both overhead vents and side
vents. Passengers like both of them. More vents the better.
Just my 2 cents worth after 135 hrs flying and one of the hottest summers in
Ohio recently
Geoff
* *
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| Subject: | Re: Flight tracker |
I brought by Spot2 along with me to OSH and back to ease the anxiety of my wife.
It is quite cool. Costs $150 for the unit and $100-150 for the bells and whistles
annually. Anyway you have different options to use including breadcrumb
tracking and "hi - here I am and I am ok". It sends an e-mail/instant message
(with a 1 minute or so delay) to any e-mail enabled cel phone. She was able to
see my exact position all the way across the west in near real-time. I just pushed
the, "I am ok" button every 10-20 minutes. It is velcro fixed to the top
of the panel. Since I only have a 121.5 ELT, it provides a nice back-up emergency
system. It has pretty much world wide coverage. If someone in back had carried
one on the Ted Stevens plane the EMS guys might have been on the scene more
quickly. See Findmespot.com. there have also been several write-ups recently
in the aviation press about the Spot.
--------
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Q/B - finally done
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| Subject: | Re: Flight tracker |
Several alternatives.
http://www.ems.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4063257
use of APRS trackers by hams; track appears on the internet. using RTG from
www.byonics.com KE7TPH
no monthly or annual fees. I too have only the 121.5 ELT.
----- Original Message -----
From: "AirMike" <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 9:23 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Flight tracker
>
> I brought by Spot2 along with me to OSH and back to ease the anxiety of my
> wife. It is quite cool. Costs $150 for the unit and $100-150 for the bells
> and whistles annually. Anyway you have different options to use including
> breadcrumb tracking and "hi - here I am and I am ok". It sends an
> e-mail/instant message (with a 1 minute or so delay) to any e-mail enabled
> cel phone. She was able to see my exact position all the way across the
> west in near real-time. I just pushed the, "I am ok" button every 10-20
> minutes. It is velcro fixed to the top of the panel. Since I only have a
> 121.5 ELT, it provides a nice back-up emergency system. It has pretty much
> world wide coverage. If someone in back had carried one on the Ted Stevens
> plane the EMS guys might have been on the scene more quickly. See
> Findmespot.com. there have also been several write-ups recently in the
> aviation press about the Spot.
>
> --------
> OSH '10 or Bust
> Q/B - finally done
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=308378#308378
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead Console Airflow |
Thanks for that feedback. I was just wondering about these factory
vents. The rear side vents seem to point at the belly buttons. The front
one seems to be aimed at ones crotch. I was wondering about eliminating
those, but alas i'll leave them be.
It is strange to be hearing about heat waves in the rest of the world.
The bay area and most of CA is having lower than average if not record
low temperatures all summer long. We'll be lucky if we break 60F. Of
course, weldon still skinned over quicker than I expected. Will have to
change my routine on the next window.
Jae
40533
On 8/11/2010 9:11 AM, Robin Marks wrote:
>
> Agreed!
>
> Robin
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> <mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> <mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>] *On Behalf Of *Geoff Combs
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 11, 2010 8:23 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Overhead Console Airflow
>
> I would not cover up the side vents. I have both overhead vents and
> side vents. Passengers like both of them. More vents the better.
>
> Just my 2 cents worth after 135 hrs flying and one of the hottest
> summers in Ohio recently
>
> Geoff
>
> * *
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: Flight tracker |
Thanks for the additional resources, I'll check into it.
After Brent's comment, I surfed FlightAware's site further and found that if
I registered and logged in, I too get automatic refreshes.
Probably that is good enough for me, but the other tracking methods may be
of interest to Wes's wife. This is the first real trip he's made so she is
torn between wanting to know everything is going OK vs. being too scared to
watch!
I, on the other hand, was so excited watching his progress that I'm
considering doping up my motion sickness so I can go with him on the next
one!
By the way, he says it is very hot and humid in Florida and he will be
filling up the ice chest a/c for the trip back.
Later, - Lew
----- Original Message -----
From: "DLM" <dlm46007@cox.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Flight tracker
>
> Several alternatives.
>
> http://www.ems.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4063257
>
> use of APRS trackers by hams; track appears on the internet. using RTG
> from www.byonics.com KE7TPH
>
> no monthly or annual fees. I too have only the 121.5 ELT.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "AirMike" <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 9:23 AM
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Flight tracker
>
>
>>
>> I brought by Spot2 along with me to OSH and back to ease the anxiety of
>> my wife. It is quite cool. Costs $150 for the unit and $100-150 for the
>> bells and whistles annually. Anyway you have different options to use
>> including breadcrumb tracking and "hi - here I am and I am ok". It sends
>> an e-mail/instant message (with a 1 minute or so delay) to any e-mail
>> enabled cel phone. She was able to see my exact position all the way
>> across the west in near real-time. I just pushed the, "I am ok" button
>> every 10-20 minutes. It is velcro fixed to the top of the panel. Since I
>> only have a 121.5 ELT, it provides a nice back-up emergency system. It
>> has pretty much world wide coverage. If someone in back had carried one
>> on the Ted Stevens plane the EMS guys might have been on the scene more
>> quickly. See Findmespot.com. there have also been several write-ups
>> recently in the aviation press about the Spot.
>>
>> --------
>> OSH '10 or Bust
>> Q/B - finally done
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=308378#308378
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flight tracker |
SPOT is great for some situations or preferences. It's one of
the only few ways you can get coverage when not anywhere near
ground stations, so for Bahamas flying, or low-altitude or
sometimes (not many times) mountainous flying, it would be great.
It comes at a few costs though....one being the annual subscription
price. Another is that the updates are only 10 minute intervals.
That's enough to watch friends travel across the country,
but, it's not enough to get some cool track detail.
Also, the SPOT website is slow to access and isn't friendly
for mobile devices. Then, although it may in fact be
preferable in cases where you crash and are conscious and can
activate it, it's also going to be less useful if you're
unconscious and don't have a view of the sky anymore....because
now you could be 30 miles at RV-10 speeds from your last
update. Also, you have to have that thing sitting on your
glareshield or somewhere in the way, for it to have a sky view,
so that's a down side. That isn't to say it's a bad system.
It's just a preference thing. I myself wish I'd have had one
for the Bahamas trips...but I find that APRS is much nicer for
me on all my other trips.
APRS is cheap, an easy install, has no annual fees, and you can
set your update rate as needed, even 1 minute or less updates.
It makes for a nice smooth track. It also can be programmed
to monitor the GPS track and if you turn X degrees, it'll do
an update. See the attached .jpg from yesterday's flight.
It tracked me on the ground, and tracked me as I circled to
climb above some build-ups and get to 10.5K for an X/C flight.
The update rate quickened as I turned, so the curve is nice.
Being free, I like an awful lot. Also, the google maps
interface at http://aprs.fi (great guy that supports that site)
is much nicer for me and especially mobile users to use. The
APRS track history is kept on his site for a long time too,
so I can easily look back and check back on previous flights
if I want for logging purposes. SPOT's site lately seems to
dump all track data that is more than maybe 10 days old...of
the few people I check on that have SPOT messengers, currently
NO tracks are available for me to see...and some were from
after OSH. APRS can actually also be used to send emails and
messages, and can have a dual-format of output so you can
do different things if you're OK vs not OK, if you want to
get into some details on it and become an APRS geek beyond
my depth. Also, it can be fed from a remote GPS, or you
can install it with it's own dedicated GPS, and completely
hide the system in a wingtip if you wish, so it doesn't need
to sit on your glareshield, and you can have it activate
with some other switch, such as nav lights or strobe, so
that it's on whenever you want it on....just tie it to
something that you can switch at will. Because of this,
it also doesn't require batteries, something that SPOT does.
I also own a 406 mhz PLB, and have actually already ordered
my ACK E-04 406Mhz GPS integrated ELT, so those are for my
emergency use only. That makes my need for SPOT's emergency
functions non-required....which makes APRS a perfect match
for me. I could probably always borrow a friends SPOT if
I needed for a Bahamas trip....IF that mattered to me. For
now, I'll just keep my PLB clipped to my vest on those trips.
So like anything, there is good and bad about both methods.
APRS does require ground station reception, and although I
often transmit over 100 miles with my 300mW radio, that
isn't enough for some of the far offshore stuff I've done.
But, for many people, taking the time to get your Technicians
license (a real simple thing that is so cheap it's unbelievable)
can be well worth the effort.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
On 8/11/2010 11:45 AM, DLM wrote:
>
> Several alternatives.
>
> http://www.ems.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4063257
>
> use of APRS trackers by hams; track appears on the internet. using RTG
> from www.byonics.com KE7TPH
>
> no monthly or annual fees. I too have only the 121.5 ELT.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "AirMike" <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 9:23 AM
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Flight tracker
>
>
>>
>> I brought by Spot2 along with me to OSH and back to ease the anxiety
>> of my wife. It is quite cool. Costs $150 for the unit and $100-150 for
>> the bells and whistles annually. Anyway you have different options to
>> use including breadcrumb tracking and "hi - here I am and I am ok". It
>> sends an e-mail/instant message (with a 1 minute or so delay) to any
>> e-mail enabled cel phone. She was able to see my exact position all
>> the way across the west in near real-time. I just pushed the, "I am
>> ok" button every 10-20 minutes. It is velcro fixed to the top of the
>> panel. Since I only have a 121.5 ELT, it provides a nice back-up
>> emergency system. It has pretty much world wide coverage. If someone
>> in back had carried one on the Ted Stevens plane the EMS guys might
>> have been on the scene more quickly. See Findmespot.com. there have
>> also been several write-ups recently in the aviation press about the
>> Spot.
>>
>> --------
>> OSH '10 or Bust
>> Q/B - finally done
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=308378#308378
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead Console Airflow |
My overhead does not supply fresh air, only air conditioned air or just the blower
fan.
I put in the upgraded aluminum front seat vents and am very happy with them. Those
front seat vents are capable of bringing in a LOT of air and can be aimed
where you want it. I would definitely keep them. I don't have passengers in the
back seat too often, but have had no complaints about the rear vents. I installed
the little knobs that Alex D. sells to open and close them. They work fine.
--------
David Maib
RV-10 #40559
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| Subject: | GPS and ELT Antennae mounting |
I'm about to rivet on the F-1074 (tail cone forward top skin). All of
my wires are routed and secured... all of my d-subs are assembled...
all of my TNC and BNC connectors are crimped on and ready to go. The
last things I think I might need to consider are my GNS-430W and ELT
antenna doublers (they will mount to the F-1074). As I'm currently
operating in an "economy" phase of the build (I don't want to buy
anything I don't have to to keep moving ahead), I don't have these
antennae. Is this something I can easily do with the F-1074
attached? Does anyone have pictures of these antennae mounted? Is
there anything I'm not thinking of here?
Thank you all, as always,
Jeff Carpenter
40304
Wires, wires everywhere
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead Console Airflow |
So which are the better of the vents that Steinair sells for the overhead, the
1 1/4 or the 1 3/4, someone mentioned the smaller ones work better? Wouldn't
the larger provide more air flow?
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Dave Ford
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead Console Airflow |
Dave use the smaller ones. That is what it was designed for they work great.
Geoff
Geoff Combs
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Canal Winchester, Ohio 43110
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Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 6:57 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Overhead Console Airflow
So which are the better of the vents that Steinair sells for the overhead,
the 1 1/4 or the 1 3/4, someone mentioned the smaller ones work better?
Wouldn't the larger provide more air flow?
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead Console Airflow |
Dave, I used vents that look like these http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/largealumav.php
However, I did not buy them from Spruce. I bought mine, in black, from Van's about
2 1/2 years ago. I looked on Van's site and they don't appear to offer them
any more. They were an exact fit for the vent and they work great. I don't recall
what I paid for them at Van's, but I believe they were still a little more
expensive than Stein's vents. I can't find any photo's of mine installed, but
they look great, work great, and don't leak. (I have put them through pretty
serious rain tests) [Shocked]
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead Console Airflow |
rvdave wrote:
> So which are the better of the vents that Steinair sells for the overhead, the
1 1/4 or the 1 3/4, someone mentioned the smaller ones work better? Wouldn't
the larger provide more air flow?
I think it might depend on your panel design. I have a SteinAir RV-10 panel and
used the larger vents I mentioned in my previous post. They fit perfectly. I
suspect that some of the other custom panels out there might work better with
a smaller vent.
$.02 worth
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| Subject: | Re: GPS and ELT Antennae mounting |
Jeff, I left that top forward skin off until very late in the build. I installed
my gps antennas on the tailcone top just aft of that skin, so having if off
made the job very easy.
Having the access from the top as long as possible was a good thing.
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| Subject: | Re: GPS and ELT Antennae mounting |
yep, David... that's been my approach. I'm thinking I'm late in the
build and it's time to put it on. My need to not spend much money at
the moment is the only thing that has me hoping that I can add the
doublers later, when I fork over the big bucks for the 430W, without
too much trouble.
On Aug 11, 2010, at 5:30 PM, dmaib@me.com wrote:
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> Jeff, I left that top forward skin off until very late in the build.
> I installed my gps antennas on the tailcone top just aft of that
> skin, so having if off made the job very easy.
> Having the access from the top as long as possible was a good thing.
>
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> David Maib
> RV-10 #40559
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| Subject: | Re: GPS and ELT Antennae mounting |
Another approach is to mount the GPS antennas on top of the glare shield,
and the ELT antenna under the empennage fairing. On my 8A I covered the
white Garmin GPS antenna with dark cloth to eliminate glare. The GPS and XM
antennas for the 396 are also mounted on the glare shield. I'll do the same
on my RV-10 project.
Carl Froehlich
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Carpenter
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: GPS and ELT Antennae mounting
yep, David... that's been my approach. I'm thinking I'm late in the
build and it's time to put it on. My need to not spend much money at
the moment is the only thing that has me hoping that I can add the
doublers later, when I fork over the big bucks for the 430W, without
too much trouble.
On Aug 11, 2010, at 5:30 PM, dmaib@me.com wrote:
>
> Jeff, I left that top forward skin off until very late in the build.
> I installed my gps antennas on the tailcone top just aft of that
> skin, so having if off made the job very easy.
> Having the access from the top as long as possible was a good thing.
>
> --------
> David Maib
> RV-10 #40559
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: GPS and ELT Antennae mounting |
You want to pay attention to distance requirements for the GPS
antenna, probably at least 2 ft from any com antenna, including ELT.
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Jeff Carpenter <jeff@westcottpress.com> wrote:
>
> yep, David... that's been my approach. I'm thinking I'm late in the build
> and it's time to put it on. My need to not spend much money at the moment
> is the only thing that has me hoping that I can add the doublers later, when
> I fork over the big bucks for the 430W, without too much trouble.
>
>
> On Aug 11, 2010, at 5:30 PM, dmaib@me.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Jeff, I left that top forward skin off until very late in the build. I
>> installed my gps antennas on the tailcone top just aft of that skin, so
>> having if off made the job very easy.
>> Having the access from the top as long as possible was a good thing.
>>
>> --------
>> David Maib
>> RV-10 #40559
>>
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| Subject: | Re: GPS and ELT Antennae mounting |
You want to make sure the elt antenna is in a location protected from damage
incase of a roll over. Ie hack just fwd of the Vert stab. That is a
requirement on a certified product. I do not know how affective the antenna
would be, being under the fairing panel in the Vert stab either, there
designed to be vertically mounted not horizontally.
John G. Cumins
President
2499 B1 Martin Rd
Fairfield Ca 94534
707-425-7100
707-425-7576 Fax
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: GPS and ELT Antennae mounting
You want to pay attention to distance requirements for the GPS
antenna, probably at least 2 ft from any com antenna, including ELT.
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Jeff Carpenter <jeff@westcottpress.com>
wrote:
>
> yep, David... that's been my approach. I'm thinking I'm late in the build
> and it's time to put it on. My need to not spend much money at the moment
> is the only thing that has me hoping that I can add the doublers later,
when
> I fork over the big bucks for the 430W, without too much trouble.
>
>
> On Aug 11, 2010, at 5:30 PM, dmaib@me.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Jeff, I left that top forward skin off until very late in the build. I
>> installed my gps antennas on the tailcone top just aft of that skin, so
>> having if off made the job very easy.
>> Having the access from the top as long as possible was a good thing.
>>
>> --------
>> David Maib
>> RV-10 #40559
>>
>>
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>>
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| Subject: | Re: GPS and ELT Antennae mounting |
One consideration is the aircraft attitude after a crash. The ELT antenna
mounted horizontally but in a protected area under the empennage fairing may
just be vertical when you need it most. If the aircraft flips over, a roof
mounted antenna is not much good.
Carl Froehlich
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Cumins
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 9:30 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: GPS and ELT Antennae mounting
You want to make sure the elt antenna is in a location protected from damage
incase of a roll over. Ie hack just fwd of the Vert stab. That is a
requirement on a certified product. I do not know how affective the antenna
would be, being under the fairing panel in the Vert stab either, there
designed to be vertically mounted not horizontally.
John G. Cumins
President
2499 B1 Martin Rd
Fairfield Ca 94534
707-425-7100
707-425-7576 Fax
Your Total Technology Solution Provider
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: GPS and ELT Antennae mounting
You want to pay attention to distance requirements for the GPS
antenna, probably at least 2 ft from any com antenna, including ELT.
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Jeff Carpenter <jeff@westcottpress.com>
wrote:
>
> yep, David... that's been my approach. I'm thinking I'm late in the build
> and it's time to put it on. My need to not spend much money at the moment
> is the only thing that has me hoping that I can add the doublers later,
when
> I fork over the big bucks for the 430W, without too much trouble.
>
>
> On Aug 11, 2010, at 5:30 PM, dmaib@me.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Jeff, I left that top forward skin off until very late in the build. I
>> installed my gps antennas on the tailcone top just aft of that skin, so
>> having if off made the job very easy.
>> Having the access from the top as long as possible was a good thing.
>>
>> --------
>> David Maib
>> RV-10 #40559
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=308425#308425
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| Subject: | Re: GPS and ELT Antennae mounting |
Just to be the first wise guy......what will the orientation of the airplane
be after it crashes. :)
I put mine under the fairing, but may change when I go to the new unit.
Rene' Felker
N423CF
801-721-6080
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Cumins
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 7:30 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: GPS and ELT Antennae mounting
You want to make sure the elt antenna is in a location protected from damage
incase of a roll over. Ie hack just fwd of the Vert stab. That is a
requirement on a certified product. I do not know how affective the antenna
would be, being under the fairing panel in the Vert stab either, there
designed to be vertically mounted not horizontally.
John G. Cumins
President
2499 B1 Martin Rd
Fairfield Ca 94534
707-425-7100
707-425-7576 Fax
Your Total Technology Solution Provider
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: GPS and ELT Antennae mounting
You want to pay attention to distance requirements for the GPS
antenna, probably at least 2 ft from any com antenna, including ELT.
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Jeff Carpenter <jeff@westcottpress.com>
wrote:
>
> yep, David... that's been my approach. I'm thinking I'm late in the build
> and it's time to put it on. My need to not spend much money at the moment
> is the only thing that has me hoping that I can add the doublers later,
when
> I fork over the big bucks for the 430W, without too much trouble.
>
>
> On Aug 11, 2010, at 5:30 PM, dmaib@me.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Jeff, I left that top forward skin off until very late in the build. I
>> installed my gps antennas on the tailcone top just aft of that skin, so
>> having if off made the job very easy.
>> Having the access from the top as long as possible was a good thing.
>>
>> --------
>> David Maib
>> RV-10 #40559
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=308425#308425
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| Subject: | Re: Plane power Vs B&C Alternators |
Patrick,
I have a B&C 40 Amp alternator in my RV8 that is 10 years old. Never had a problem
with it at all. Bullet proof in my opinion. So much so, I put a 60 amp
B&C in the RV10 that I built. I also used their Linear Regulator.
B&C provides all the mounting hardware you need. Piece of cake to install.
Zack
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| Subject: | Re: GPS and ELT Antennae mounting |
-Would you put your com antenna in the fairing, if you do what- great t
ransmission and reception you would have.
The elt antenna is a transmitter and very flexible. If you do go on your-
back if you should have a accident you still have two sides open but think
how much you have if in the fairing, the vertical and the horizontal is bl
ocking it's signal.
-That's just my two cents.
Patrick Thyssen
N15PT
--- On Wed, 8/11/10, Carl Froehlich <carl.froehlich@verizon.net> wrote:
From: Carl Froehlich <carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: GPS and ELT Antennae mounting
et>
One consideration is the aircraft attitude after a crash.- The ELT antenn
a
mounted horizontally but in a protected area under the empennage fairing ma
y
just be vertical when you need it most.- If the aircraft flips over, a-
roof
mounted antenna is not much good.
Carl Froehlich
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Cumins
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 9:30 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: GPS and ELT Antennae mounting
You want to make sure the elt antenna is in a location protected from damag
e
incase of a roll over.- Ie hack just fwd of the Vert stab.- That is a
requirement on a certified product.- I do not know how affective the ante
nna
would be, being under the fairing panel in the Vert stab either, there
designed to be vertically mounted not horizontally.
John G. Cumins
President
-
2499 B1 Martin Rd
Fairfield Ca 94534
707-425-7100
707-425-7576 Fax
-
Your Total Technology Solution Provider
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: GPS and ELT Antennae mounting
You want to pay attention to distance requirements for the GPS
antenna, probably at least- 2 ft from any com antenna, including ELT.
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Jeff Carpenter <jeff@westcottpress.com>
wrote:
>
> yep, David... that's been my approach. -I'm thinking I'm late in the bu
ild
> and it's time to put it on. -My need to not spend much money at the mom
ent
> is the only thing that has me hoping that I can add the doublers later,
when
> I fork over the big bucks for the 430W, without too much trouble.
>
>
> On Aug 11, 2010, at 5:30 PM, dmaib@me.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Jeff, I left that top forward skin off until very late in the build. I
>> installed my gps antennas on the tailcone top just aft of that skin, so
>> having if off made the job very easy.
>> Having the access from the top as long as possible was a good thing.
>>
>> --------
>> David Maib
>> RV-10 #40559
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=308425#308425
>>
>>
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le, List Admin.
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead Console Airflow |
aerosport1 wrote:
> Dave use the smaller ones. That is what it was designed for they work great.
>
> Geoff
> --
Thanks Geoff, that's just what I wanted to know.
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| Subject: | Re: GPS and ELT Antennae mounting |
Mooney has FAA approval to mount the 406 ELT in just that same location.
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Rene Felker <rene@felker.com> wrote:
>
> Just to be the first wise guy......what will the orientation of the airplane
> be after it crashes. :)
>
> I put mine under the fairing, but may change when I go to the new unit.
>
> Rene' Felker
> N423CF
> 801-721-6080
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