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1. 07:55 AM - Re: Re: VOR Antenna Experiment - report (Bill Mauledriver Watson)
2. 08:12 AM - Re: Primer Question (johngoodman)
3. 08:39 AM - Re: Re: VOR Antenna Experiment - report (Robert Brunkenhoefer)
4. 09:14 AM - Re: Re: Primer Question (Linn Walters)
5. 10:13 AM - Re: VOR Antenna Experiment - report (Bob Turner)
6. 11:24 AM - Re: Prop Governors (Richard Martin)
7. 01:06 PM - Re: Re: VOR Antenna Experiment - report (Jesse Saint)
8. 02:08 PM - Re: Prop Governors (Kelly McMullen)
9. 02:29 PM - Re: Re: VOR Antenna Experiment - report (Bill Mauledriver Watson)
10. 02:44 PM - Re: Prop Governors (Pascal)
11. 03:49 PM - Re: Prop Governors (Kelly McMullen)
12. 04:06 PM - Re: Prop Governors (Deems Davis)
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| Subject: | Re: VOR Antenna Experiment - report |
This raises the question I keep wanting to ask of the G430W folks flying
IFR - Are you still routinely and primarily flying precision approaches
using the ILS or RNAV? At controlled airports, do they gdefault to the
ILS or RNAV for vectored approaches? Can you freely use either when
available?
I haven't been flying in the system for a couple of years now and have
never seen/touched a precision RNAV approach. Just wondering what
reality is like out there now.
Bill "really wanting to fly this thing" Watson
AirMike wrote:
>
> I appreciate all of the thoughtful responses to my comments ( especially Tim
L, Tim O, and Kelly). We asked Reno APP for vectors to the ILS. They essentially
sent us in a teardrop pattern. Approaching from close to the airport we had
some reception problems at 90 degrees off our rt wingtip - presumably the wingtip
blanketing the signal.
>
> Then the N to So. approach is VERY long due to the Sierra Mtns at 8000 to 10000
ft to the west. Reno sits at 4200 ft. At 5-6 miles and on in (Loc & G/S) there
was no problem. It was out a ways like Kelly said on the intercept and even
after the intercept (10-12 miles) that the signal was erratic. Reno is a real
acid test of these antennas.
>
> --------
> OSH '10 or Bust
> Q/B - finally done
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309356#309356
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| Subject: | Re: Primer Question |
Corrosion X
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#40572 QB. Working on Cowling & Panel
N711JG reserved
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| Subject: | Re: VOR Antenna Experiment - report |
i general fly rnav approaches with vectors. they work great. robert
On Aug 19, 2010, at 9:53 AM, Bill Mauledriver Watson wrote:
>
> This raises the question I keep wanting to ask of the G430W folks flying IFR
- Are you still routinely and primarily flying precision approaches using the
ILS or RNAV? At controlled airports, do they gdefault to the ILS or RNAV for
vectored approaches? Can you freely use either when available?
>
> I haven't been flying in the system for a couple of years now and have never
seen/touched a precision RNAV approach. Just wondering what reality is like out
there now.
>
> Bill "really wanting to fly this thing" Watson
>
> AirMike wrote:
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>> I appreciate all of the thoughtful responses to my comments ( especially Tim
L, Tim O, and Kelly). We asked Reno APP for vectors to the ILS. They essentially
sent us in a teardrop pattern. Approaching from close to the airport we had
some reception problems at 90 degrees off our rt wingtip - presumably the wingtip
blanketing the signal.
>>
>> Then the N to So. approach is VERY long due to the Sierra Mtns at 8000 to 10000
ft to the west. Reno sits at 4200 ft. At 5-6 miles and on in (Loc & G/S) there
was no problem. It was out a ways like Kelly said on the intercept and even
after the intercept (10-12 miles) that the signal was erratic. Reno is a real
acid test of these antennas.
>>
>> --------
>> OSH '10 or Bust Q/B - finally done
>>
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>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309356#309356
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| Subject: | Re: Primer Question |
Corrosion X is expensive. Get Boeshield by the gallon and cut it with
mineral spirits.
Linn
johngoodman wrote:
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> Corrosion X
>
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> #40572 QB. Working on Cowling & Panel
> N711JG reserved
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309402#309402
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| Subject: | Re: VOR Antenna Experiment - report |
At most (all?) airports around here ATC will let you fly whatever approach you
want, except for maybe opposite to the traffic direction. Even then they often
let you do it, asking you to break off and circle early (if vfr) for opposing
traffic reasons.
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Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
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| Subject: | Re: Prop Governors |
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| Subject: | Re: VOR Antenna Experiment - report |
They always give me whichever I ask for. I usually do the rnav.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
www.mavericklsa.com
C: 352-427-0285
O: 352-465-4545
F: 815-377-3694
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 19, 2010, at 10:53 AM, Bill Mauledriver Watson <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> This raises the question I keep wanting to ask of the G430W folks flying IFR
- Are you still routinely and primarily flying precision approaches using the
ILS or RNAV? At controlled airports, do they gdefault to the ILS or RNAV for
vectored approaches? Can you freely use either when available?
>
> I haven't been flying in the system for a couple of years now and have never
seen/touched a precision RNAV approach. Just wondering what reality is like out
there now.
>
> Bill "really wanting to fly this thing" Watson
>
> AirMike wrote:
>>
>> I appreciate all of the thoughtful responses to my comments ( especially Tim
L, Tim O, and Kelly). We asked Reno APP for vectors to the ILS. They essentially
sent us in a teardrop pattern. Approaching from close to the airport we had
some reception problems at 90 degrees off our rt wingtip - presumably the wingtip
blanketing the signal.
>>
>> Then the N to So. approach is VERY long due to the Sierra Mtns at 8000 to 10000
ft to the west. Reno sits at 4200 ft. At 5-6 miles and on in (Loc & G/S) there
was no problem. It was out a ways like Kelly said on the intercept and even
after the intercept (10-12 miles) that the signal was erratic. Reno is a real
acid test of these antennas.
>>
>> --------
>> OSH '10 or Bust Q/B - finally done
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309356#309356
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Prop Governors |
Hartzells in general have some expensive ADs on them, and have
restrictions on rpm ranges on their aluminum prop for many engine/prop
combinations. I don't believe MT has either, or if you really want to
spend big money, the composite Hartzell doesn't have any problems that
have shown up, so far, except for price.
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Richard Martin
<martinaerodrome@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hartzell products are available at every repair station in the US. Does MT
> have the same market penetration?
> Dick Martin
>
> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
>>
>> Now that Vans sell both MT and Hartzell prop governors, is there any
>> reason to buy one over the other?
>>
>>
>>
>> Does anyone have any experience or know of somebody that has the Harrzell?
>>
>> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>> ttp://forums.matronics.com
>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>
>
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| Subject: | Re: VOR Antenna Experiment - report |
When I was flying non-precision RNAV approaches, it was still 'awkward'
to get properly vectored or cleared for them. They controllers tended
to not be familiar with the T-style approaches at non-controlled
airports. The overlays worked fine. Never even tried to do an RNAV
non-precision at a controlled AP - just took vectors for the ILS.
Do you ever do the ILS for something other than proficiency?
Jesse Saint wrote:
>
> They always give me whichever I ask for. I usually do the rnav.
>
> Jesse Saint
> I-TEC, Inc.
> jesse@itecusa.org
> www.itecusa.org
> www.mavericklsa.com
> C: 352-427-0285
> O: 352-465-4545
> F: 815-377-3694
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 19, 2010, at 10:53 AM, Bill Mauledriver Watson <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>
wrote:
>
>
>>
>> This raises the question I keep wanting to ask of the G430W folks flying IFR
- Are you still routinely and primarily flying precision approaches using the
ILS or RNAV? At controlled airports, do they gdefault to the ILS or RNAV for
vectored approaches? Can you freely use either when available?
>>
>> I haven't been flying in the system for a couple of years now and have never
seen/touched a precision RNAV approach. Just wondering what reality is like
out there now.
>>
>> Bill "really wanting to fly this thing" Watson
>>
>> AirMike wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I appreciate all of the thoughtful responses to my comments ( especially Tim
L, Tim O, and Kelly). We asked Reno APP for vectors to the ILS. They essentially
sent us in a teardrop pattern. Approaching from close to the airport we had
some reception problems at 90 degrees off our rt wingtip - presumably the wingtip
blanketing the signal.
>>>
>>> Then the N to So. approach is VERY long due to the Sierra Mtns at 8000 to 10000
ft to the west. Reno sits at 4200 ft. At 5-6 miles and on in (Loc & G/S)
there was no problem. It was out a ways like Kelly said on the intercept and even
after the intercept (10-12 miles) that the signal was erratic. Reno is a real
acid test of these antennas.
>>>
>>> --------
>>> OSH '10 or Bust Q/B - finally done
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309356#309356
>>>
>>>
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| Subject: | Re: Prop Governors |
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the PCU5000 and the "X" model as an
option. I know that wasn't the question but wanted to raise that there is a
3rd option out there.
Can be bought for about the same price as the MT. I have it but have not
tested/flown with it yet, Deems might be able to give his thoughts. VAF
forums had great feedback when I was researching this.
Pascal
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From: "Kelly McMullen" <apilot2@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Prop Governors
>
> Hartzells in general have some expensive ADs on them, and have
> restrictions on rpm ranges on their aluminum prop for many engine/prop
> combinations. I don't believe MT has either, or if you really want to
> spend big money, the composite Hartzell doesn't have any problems that
> have shown up, so far, except for price.
>
> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Richard Martin
> <martinaerodrome@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hartzell products are available at every repair station in the US. Does
>> MT
>> have the same market penetration?
>> Dick Martin
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Now that Vans sell both MT and Hartzell prop governors, is there any
>>> reason to buy one over the other?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any experience or know of somebody that has the
>>> Harrzell?
>>>
>>> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>>> ttp://forums.matronics.com
>>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Prop Governors |
That will teach me to read the subject line more carefully. I was
referring to props, not governors.
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Pascal <rv10builder@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> I'm surprised no one has mentioned the PCU5000 and the "X" model as an
> option. I know that wasn't the question but wanted to raise that there is a
> 3rd option out there.
> Can be bought for about the same price as the MT. I have it but have not
> tested/flown with it yet, Deems might be able to give his thoughts. VAF
> forums had great feedback when I was researching this.
> Pascal
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Kelly McMullen" <apilot2@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 2:07 PM
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Prop Governors
>
>>
>> Hartzells in general have some expensive ADs on them, and have
>> restrictions on rpm ranges on their aluminum prop for many engine/prop
>> combinations. I don't believe MT has either, or if you really want to
>> spend big money, the composite Hartzell doesn't have any problems that
>> have shown up, so far, except for price.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Richard Martin
>> <martinaerodrome@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hartzell products are available at every repair station in the US. Does
>>> MT
>>> have the same market penetration?
>>> Dick Martin
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Now that Vans sell both MT and Hartzell prop governors, is there any
>>>> reason to buy one over the other?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have any experience or know of somebody that has the
>>>> Harrzell?
>>>>
>>>> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>>>> ttp://forums.matronics.com
>>>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Prop Governors |
When I was shopping for a governor, I contacted American Propeller in
Ca. They had overhauled 3 props for me and are a well known major shop
on the west coast. I asked them for a recommendation and they
recommended the PCU5000 because,
A. it outputs 20-30% higher oil pressure than the others, and
B. as of my call (2007-2008) they had seen NO service,maintenance
issues. I have it installed, and haven't had any issues in its limited
170 hours life.
Deems
On 8/19/2010 2:43 PM, Pascal wrote:
>
> I'm surprised no one has mentioned the PCU5000 and the "X" model as
> an option. I know that wasn't the question but wanted to raise that
> there is a 3rd option out there.
> Can be bought for about the same price as the MT. I have it but have
> not tested/flown with it yet, Deems might be able to give his
> thoughts. VAF forums had great feedback when I was researching this.
> Pascal
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Kelly McMullen" <apilot2@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 2:07 PM
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Prop Governors
>
>>
>> Hartzells in general have some expensive ADs on them, and have
>> restrictions on rpm ranges on their aluminum prop for many engine/prop
>> combinations. I don't believe MT has either, or if you really want to
>> spend big money, the composite Hartzell doesn't have any problems that
>> have shown up, so far, except for price.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Richard Martin
>> <martinaerodrome@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hartzell products are available at every repair station in the US.
>>> Does MT
>>> have the same market penetration?
>>> Dick Martin
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Now that Vans sell both MT and Hartzell prop governors, is there any
>>>> reason to buy one over the other?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have any experience or know of somebody that has the
>>>> Harrzell?
>>>>
>>>> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>>>> ttp://forums.matronics.com
>>>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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