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1. 08:35 AM - GRT standard probes. (DLM)
2. 01:11 PM - reliability (DLM)
3. 01:42 PM - EGT probes (DLM)
4. 03:22 PM - Re: reliability (Carl Froehlich)
5. 03:40 PM - Re: reliability (Kelly McMullen)
6. 05:47 PM - Fuel Injection (Bob Leffler)
7. 06:22 PM - Re: reliability (DLM)
8. 06:32 PM - Re: reliability (Jack Phillips)
9. 06:36 PM - Re: reliability (Linn Walters)
10. 06:37 PM - Re: Fuel Injection (Rick)
11. 07:01 PM - Re: Fuel Injection (Carl Froehlich)
12. 07:05 PM - Re: reliability (Tim Olson)
13. 07:41 PM - Re: Fuel Injection (Kelly McMullen)
14. 08:25 PM - Re: reliability (Rick)
15. 08:41 PM - Re: reliability (Bruceklas)
16. 08:47 PM - Re: reliability (John Erickson)
17. 09:48 PM - Re: reliability (Dave Leikam)
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| Subject: | GRT standard probes. |
I started flying with 6 standard EIS 6000 probes. I have had five
failures in 310 hours. I don't know whether it is just a bad batch or
what. I have three of their higher quality probes (white taped leads)
which were their replacements and they have not failed yet, but they
have less than 150 hours on them. The latest failure occurred last
Saturday and since I had already ordered a set of EI P-110, I am going
to change them all as opposed to changing them individually every 50-100
hours. So far my failures occurred at <200, 210, 250,278,and 310 hours.
Temperatures were normally 1375-1420 (as measured by the EIS) and
located 2" from the exhaust flange. My previous experience with probes
is 2000 hours on Insight GEM 603 with one failure and 530 hours on an EI
SU8A with no failures. Has anyone else had any EGT probe difficulties?
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Just started to look at additional things to do that improve
reliability.
A check with Skytec indicates that the starters are engineered for about
5500 starts. At 2 starts per hour that should be about 2700 hours. The
starter can be rebuilt for about $160-200.
The plane power alternator which Vans supplies, should have new brush
assembly at 1000 hours. The replacement part assembly which includes the
regulator circuitry, is about $50. I plan to add the assembly to my
parts kit.
I already carry an additional master contactor, a starter relay, several
serviceable sparkplugs and prop O-ring. The tool box contains , in
additional to tools, additional wire, safety wire, tie wraps, electrical
connectors, fuses, screws, bolts and washers.
Anyone else carrying additional spare parts? Many FBOs can't/won't
(insurance) work on your experimental because they do not have
continuing airworthiness data.
N46007 at 310TT
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Just a heads up. If you swap the GRT EGT probes for another brand, i.e.
EI P-110, you may require some additional length on the GRT EIS wires.
The GRT probes have a length of about 24" while my replacements have
only 12". This means I will have to splice with crimp connectors for
cylinder 1 and 2.
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A couple more:
- Spare fuel cap. The pin connecting the tab may break. You can
get the cap off with a vice grip but having a spare once you get it off
makes life easier when on the road.
- Spare alternator belt. An FBO may be able to help pull the prop
to replace it.
Carl Froehlich
RV-8A (550 hrs)
RV-10 (system install)
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DLM
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 4:10 PM
Subject: RV10-List: reliability
Just started to look at additional things to do that improve reliability.
A check with Skytec indicates that the starters are engineered for about
5500 starts. At 2 starts per hour that should be about 2700 hours. The
starter can be rebuilt for about $160-200.
The plane power alternator which Vans supplies, should have new brush
assembly at 1000 hours. The replacement part assembly which includes the
regulator circuitry, is about $50. I plan to add the assembly to my parts
kit.
I already carry an additional master contactor, a starter relay, several
serviceable sparkplugs and prop O-ring. The tool box contains , in
additional to tools, additional wire, safety wire, tie wraps, electrical
connectors, fuses, screws, bolts and washers.
Anyone else carrying additional spare parts? Many FBOs can't/won't
(insurance) work on your experimental because they do not have continuing
airworthiness data.
N46007 at 310TT
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RV specific parts would be the main thing. If the alternator belt is a
standard Lycoming part (likely) any FBO will have or can get it from the
nearest National Aviation Parts Alternative (NAPA) store. Most of your
engine compartment stuff is either going to be stock Lycoming, or
homebuilt specific, so keep that in mind for spares. Starter and master
relays that Vans supplies are stock Cessna parts. Spark plugs will
depend on whether you have aviation plugs (18mm) or auto plugs (14mm).
All are considerations for choosing which parts to use in the first
place...will a failure leave you AOG, or is a spare easy and cheap to carry.
On 8/24/2010 3:21 PM, Carl Froehlich wrote:
>
> A couple more:
>
> - Spare fuel cap. The pin connecting the tab may break. You can get
> the cap off with a vice grip but having a spare once you get it off
> makes life easier when on the road.
>
> - Spare alternator belt. An FBO may be able to help pull the prop to
> replace it.
>
> Carl Froehlich
>
> RV-8A (550 hrs)
>
> RV-10 (system install)
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *DLM
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 24, 2010 4:10 PM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RV10-List: reliability
>
> Just started to look at additional things to do that improve reliability.
>
> A check with Skytec indicates that the starters are engineered for
> about 5500 starts. At 2 starts per hour that should be about 2700
> hours. The starter can be rebuilt for about $160-200.
>
> The plane power alternator which Vans supplies, should have new brush
> assembly at 1000 hours. The replacement part assembly which includes
> the regulator circuitry, is about $50. I plan to add the assembly to
> my parts kit.
>
> I already carry an additional master contactor, a starter relay,
> several serviceable sparkplugs and prop O-ring. The tool box contains
> , in additional to tools, additional wire, safety wire, tie wraps,
> electrical connectors, fuses, screws, bolts and washers.
>
> Anyone else carrying additional spare parts? Many FBOs can't/won't
> (insurance) work on your experimental because they do not have
> continuing airworthiness data.
>
> N46007 at 310TT
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I'm getting ready to order an engine....
I am looking for opinions pro/con for Precision Airmotive (Bendix) versus
AirFlow Performance.
. Don at Airflow seems to be very active in the experimental
community and provides great support.
. AFP requires a purge valve whereas the Precision doesn't.
. Precision seems to be the default injectors on the OEM from Van's,
Aerosport, and a couple others.
I just exhausted my knowledge on the subject.
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I will consider the cap; I plan to keep the part number for the belt
handy; but would buy when needed. Those who safety an extra alt belt to
the engine may find just another weathered belt in an emergency.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carl Froehlich
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 3:21 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: reliability
A couple more:
- Spare fuel cap. The pin connecting the tab may break. You
can get the cap off with a vice grip but having a spare once you get it
off makes life easier when on the road.
- Spare alternator belt. An FBO may be able to help pull the
prop to replace it.
Carl Froehlich
RV-8A (550 hrs)
RV-10 (system install)
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DLM
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 4:10 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: reliability
Just started to look at additional things to do that improve
reliability.
A check with Skytec indicates that the starters are engineered for
about 5500 starts. At 2 starts per hour that should be about 2700 hours.
The starter can be rebuilt for about $160-200.
The plane power alternator which Vans supplies, should have new brush
assembly at 1000 hours. The replacement part assembly which includes the
regulator circuitry, is about $50. I plan to add the assembly to my
parts kit.
I already carry an additional master contactor, a starter relay,
several serviceable sparkplugs and prop O-ring. The tool box contains ,
in additional to tools, additional wire, safety wire, tie wraps,
electrical connectors, fuses, screws, bolts and washers.
Anyone else carrying additional spare parts? Many FBOs can't/won't
(insurance) work on your experimental because they do not have
continuing airworthiness data.
N46007 at 310TT
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I can verify the need for a spare fuel cap. I broke the pin on one cap of
my RV-4 when doing my preflight inspection before making an important trip.
Of course it was a weekend and no parts were available. Fortunately the
caps in the RV-10 wing kit were the same and a quick trip home to rob my
RV-10 (it will be a long time before it needs fuel caps except to keep dust
out of the tanks) and I was on my way.
Jack Phillips
#40610 (wings)
Raleigh, NC
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DLM
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: reliability
I will consider the cap; I plan to keep the part number for the belt handy;
but would buy when needed. Those who safety an extra alt belt to the engine
may find just another weathered belt in an emergency.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carl <mailto:carl.froehlich@verizon.net> Froehlich
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 3:21 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: reliability
A couple more:
- Spare fuel cap. The pin connecting the tab may break. You can
get the cap off with a vice grip but having a spare once you get it off
makes life easier when on the road.
- Spare alternator belt. An FBO may be able to help pull the prop
to replace it.
Carl Froehlich
RV-8A (550 hrs)
RV-10 (system install)
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DLM
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 4:10 PM
Subject: RV10-List: reliability
Just started to look at additional things to do that improve reliability.
A check with Skytec indicates that the starters are engineered for about
5500 starts. At 2 starts per hour that should be about 2700 hours. The
starter can be rebuilt for about $160-200.
The plane power alternator which Vans supplies, should have new brush
assembly at 1000 hours. The replacement part assembly which includes the
regulator circuitry, is about $50. I plan to add the assembly to my parts
kit.
I already carry an additional master contactor, a starter relay, several
serviceable sparkplugs and prop O-ring. The tool box contains , in
additional to tools, additional wire, safety wire, tie wraps, electrical
connectors, fuses, screws, bolts and washers.
Anyone else carrying additional spare parts? Many FBOs can't/won't
(insurance) work on your experimental because they do not have continuing
airworthiness data.
N46007 at 310TT
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DLM wrote:
> I will consider the cap; I plan to keep the part number for the belt
> handy; but would buy when needed. Those who safety an extra alt belt
> to the engine may find just another weathered belt in an emergency.
In order to install a newly purchased belt, you have to remove the prop
along with the cowl. Terribly time consuming even if you have the tools
handy. The belts typically will last for years if aligned and tensioned
properly. A spare, weathered belt is still better than nothing if
you're AOG on a late Sunday afternoon .......
Linn
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Carl Froehlich <mailto:carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 24, 2010 3:21 PM
> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: reliability
>
> A couple more:
>
> - Spare fuel cap. The pin connecting the tab may break.
> You can get the cap off with a vice grip but having a spare once
> you get it off makes life easier when on the road.
>
> - Spare alternator belt. An FBO may be able to help pull
> the prop to replace it.
>
>
>
> Carl Froehlich
>
> RV-8A (550 hrs)
>
> RV-10 (system install)
>
>
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *DLM
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 24, 2010 4:10 PM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RV10-List: reliability
>
>
>
> Just started to look at additional things to do that improve
> reliability.
>
>
>
> A check with Skytec indicates that the starters are engineered for
> about 5500 starts. At 2 starts per hour that should be about 2700
> hours. The starter can be rebuilt for about $160-200.
>
>
>
> The plane power alternator which Vans supplies, should have new
> brush assembly at 1000 hours. The replacement part assembly which
> includes the regulator circuitry, is about $50. I plan to add
> the assembly to my parts kit.
>
>
>
> I already carry an additional master contactor, a starter relay,
> several serviceable sparkplugs and prop O-ring. The tool box
> contains , in additional to tools, additional wire, safety wire,
> tie wraps, electrical connectors, fuses, screws, bolts and washers.
>
>
>
> Anyone else carrying additional spare parts? Many FBOs can't/won't
> (insurance) work on your experimental because they do not have
> continuing airworthiness data.
>
>
>
> N46007 at 310TT
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Injection |
Bob,
The purge valve is an option but I like mine for removing the
Fuel from the distribution block at shut down as well as pumping cool
fuel during hot starts. Maybe I was lucky but as built by Barrets all
my injectors are right on and I have had to do nothing to operate LOP
with all the temps very close to each other.
Rick S.
N246RS
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 24, 2010, at 5:44 PM, "Bob Leffler" <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
> I=99m getting ready to order an engine..
>
>
> I am looking for opinions pro/con for Precision Airmotive (Bendix)
> versus AirFlow Performance.
>
>
> =C2=B7 Don at Airflow seems to be very active in the
experimental
> community and provides great support.
>
>
> =C2=B7 AFP requires a purge valve whereas the Precision
doesn=99t.
>
>
> =C2=B7 Precision seems to be the default injectors on the OEM
fro
> m Van=99s, Aerosport, and a couple others.
>
>
> I just exhausted my knowledge on the subject.
>
>
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If given the option, I=99d lean toward the AirFlow Performance
system.
I have that on my 8A and can vouch for it. I run LOP 95% of the time in
cruise and all cylinder EGTs are within 20 degrees (delta between each
EGT temperature and that cylinder=99s temperature at peak EGT). I
got the Precision on my Van=99s IO-540 only because of the great
price I got during a Van=99s engine sale a couple of years ago.
If it ever needs replacing I=99ll back fit with the AirFlow
Performance system.
I too like the purge valve for engine shutdown as it limits the fuel
dripping back down into the filter box.
Carl
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel Injection
Bob,
The purge valve is an option but I like mine for removing the
Fuel from the distribution block at shut down as well as pumping cool
fuel during hot starts. Maybe I was lucky but as built by Barrets all my
injectors are right on and I have had to do nothing to operate LOP with
all the temps very close to each other.
Rick S.
N246RS
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 24, 2010, at 5:44 PM, "Bob Leffler" <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
I=99m getting ready to order an engine..
I am looking for opinions pro/con for Precision Airmotive (Bendix)
versus AirFlow Performance.
=C2=B7 Don at Airflow seems to be very active in the
experimental community and provides great support.
=C2=B7 AFP requires a purge valve whereas the Precision
doesn=99t.
=C2=B7 Precision seems to be the default injectors on the OEM
from Van=99s, Aerosport, and a couple others.
I just exhausted my knowledge on the subject.
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I sealed my spare belt with a food vacuum sealer. Kept out of
the light I'd think it would outlast my emergency need for a belt.
When I want to replace mine for maintenance, I'll go buy a new
fresh one...this sealed one can stay as a spare.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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On 8/24/2010 8:15 PM, DLM wrote:
> I will consider the cap; I plan to keep the part number for the belt
> handy; but would buy when needed. Those who safety an extra alt belt to
> the engine may find just another weathered belt in an emergency.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Carl Froehlich <mailto:carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 24, 2010 3:21 PM
> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: reliability
>
> A couple more:
>
> - Spare fuel cap. The pin connecting the tab may break. You can get
> the cap off with a vice grip but having a spare once you get it off
> makes life easier when on the road.
>
> - Spare alternator belt. An FBO may be able to help pull the prop to
> replace it.
>
> Carl Froehlich
>
> RV-8A (550 hrs)
>
> RV-10 (system install)
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *DLM
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 24, 2010 4:10 PM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RV10-List: reliability
>
> Just started to look at additional things to do that improve
> reliability.
>
> A check with Skytec indicates that the starters are engineered for
> about 5500 starts. At 2 starts per hour that should be about 2700
> hours. The starter can be rebuilt for about $160-200.
>
> The plane power alternator which Vans supplies, should have new
> brush assembly at 1000 hours. The replacement part assembly which
> includes the regulator circuitry, is about $50. I plan to add the
> assembly to my parts kit.
>
> I already carry an additional master contactor, a starter relay,
> several serviceable sparkplugs and prop O-ring. The tool box
> contains , in additional to tools, additional wire, safety wire, tie
> wraps, electrical connectors, fuses, screws, bolts and washers.
>
> Anyone else carrying additional spare parts? Many FBOs can't/won't
> (insurance) work on your experimental because they do not have
> continuing airworthiness data.
>
> N46007 at 310TT
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Injection |
Well, I've been operating a Mooney for about 800 hours over the past
dozen years with a Precision RSA fuel injection system on an IO-360A1A
engine. After the first few months of learning how to hot start it
without effort, it hasn't given me a lick of trouble. I had the system
overhauled at the same time I did the rest of the engine 8 years ago.
It has always allowed me to run up to 70 LOP without more than a hint
of roughness, runs with EGT and CHT all within 30 of each other when
about 10 LOP to peak at appropriate power settings. On the other hand,
AirFlow lets you do more fine tuning on your own, if that is your bag.
Precision needs to be properly set up on a flow bench, but if done
right will be good for pretty close to TBO with no more than cleaning
the inlet screen every couple hundred hours and cleaning the injectors
on about the same schedule.
Purge valve to me is just one more thing to deal with, check that it
isn't in the wrong position, etc.
You probably won't go wrong with either system.
Kelly
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Bob Leffler <rv@thelefflers.com> wrote:
> Im getting ready to order an engine..
>
>
> I am looking for opinions pro/con for Precision Airmotive (Bendix) versus
> AirFlow Performance.
>
>
> Don at Airflow seems to be very active in the experimental
> community and provides great support.
>
>
> AFP requires a purge valve whereas the Precision doesnt.
>
>
> Precision seems to be the default injectors on the OEM from Vans,
> Aerosport, and a couple others.
>
>
> I just exhausted my knowledge on the subject.
>
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I know this will get some kinda kinky response but.... Keep a pair of
pantyhose onboard... You can fabricate a very reliable belt by cutting
off a leg, stretching it tight and tying. I ran my 1971 Maverick for
500 miles in 1980 in the middle of nowwhere driving from NJ to Las
Vegas. I heard of doing this on a radio show and for two bucks I
bought a Leggs egg in my favorite color "Midnight black" and tossed it
the trunk. Sure enough in good ol Arkansas my belt let go. It worked
great until I reached a "real town" without white haired pink eyed
residents where I bought a real belt. Now some would say why not buy a
spare belt? Anyone ever been 18 and just out of tech school as a E-2
Airmen knows why!! Belts are expensive when you only make $526 a month!!
Rick
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 24, 2010, at 7:04 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
>
> I sealed my spare belt with a food vacuum sealer. Kept out of
> the light I'd think it would outlast my emergency need for a belt.
> When I want to replace mine for maintenance, I'll go buy a new
> fresh one...this sealed one can stay as a spare.
>
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
>
>
> On 8/24/2010 8:15 PM, DLM wrote:
>> I will consider the cap; I plan to keep the part number for the belt
>> handy; but would buy when needed. Those who safety an extra alt
>> belt to
>> the engine may find just another weathered belt in an emergency.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Carl Froehlich <mailto:carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
>> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 24, 2010 3:21 PM
>> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: reliability
>>
>> A couple more:
>>
>> - Spare fuel cap. The pin connecting the tab may break. You can
>> get
>> the cap off with a vice grip but having a spare once you get it
>> off
>> makes life easier when on the road.
>>
>> - Spare alternator belt. An FBO may be able to help pull the
>> prop to
>> replace it.
>>
>> Carl Froehlich
>>
>> RV-8A (550 hrs)
>>
>> RV-10 (system install)
>>
>> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *DLM
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 24, 2010 4:10 PM
>> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
>> *Subject:* RV10-List: reliability
>>
>> Just started to look at additional things to do that improve
>> reliability.
>>
>> A check with Skytec indicates that the starters are engineered for
>> about 5500 starts. At 2 starts per hour that should be about 2700
>> hours. The starter can be rebuilt for about $160-200.
>>
>> The plane power alternator which Vans supplies, should have new
>> brush assembly at 1000 hours. The replacement part assembly which
>> includes the regulator circuitry, is about $50. I plan to add the
>> assembly to my parts kit.
>>
>> I already carry an additional master contactor, a starter relay,
>> several serviceable sparkplugs and prop O-ring. The tool box
>> contains , in additional to tools, additional wire, safety wire,
>> tie
>> wraps, electrical connectors, fuses, screws, bolts and washers.
>>
>> Anyone else carrying additional spare parts? Many FBOs can't/won't
>> (insurance) work on your experimental because they do not have
>> continuing airworthiness data.
>>
>> N46007 at 310TT
>>
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Rick,
It's ok to tell all the folks here that you do, in fact, wear the "socks"...
Not my thing, but who am I to judge?
:-)
John
40208 Wings... (wishing it was flying like Ricks bird...)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: reliability
I know this will get some kinda kinky response but.... Keep a pair of
pantyhose onboard... You can fabricate a very reliable belt by cutting
off a leg, stretching it tight and tying. I ran my 1971 Maverick for
500 miles in 1980 in the middle of nowwhere driving from NJ to Las
Vegas. I heard of doing this on a radio show and for two bucks I
bought a Leggs egg in my favorite color "Midnight black" and tossed it
the trunk. Sure enough in good ol Arkansas my belt let go. It worked
great until I reached a "real town" without white haired pink eyed
residents where I bought a real belt. Now some would say why not buy a
spare belt? Anyone ever been 18 and just out of tech school as a E-2
Airmen knows why!! Belts are expensive when you only make $526 a month!!
Rick
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 24, 2010, at 7:04 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
>
> I sealed my spare belt with a food vacuum sealer. Kept out of
> the light I'd think it would outlast my emergency need for a belt.
> When I want to replace mine for maintenance, I'll go buy a new
> fresh one...this sealed one can stay as a spare.
>
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
>
>
> On 8/24/2010 8:15 PM, DLM wrote:
>> I will consider the cap; I plan to keep the part number for the belt
>> handy; but would buy when needed. Those who safety an extra alt
>> belt to
>> the engine may find just another weathered belt in an emergency.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Carl Froehlich <mailto:carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
>> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 24, 2010 3:21 PM
>> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: reliability
>>
>> A couple more:
>>
>> - Spare fuel cap. The pin connecting the tab may break. You can
>> get
>> the cap off with a vice grip but having a spare once you get it
>> off
>> makes life easier when on the road.
>>
>> - Spare alternator belt. An FBO may be able to help pull the
>> prop to
>> replace it.
>>
>> Carl Froehlich
>>
>> RV-8A (550 hrs)
>>
>> RV-10 (system install)
>>
>> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *DLM
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 24, 2010 4:10 PM
>> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
>> *Subject:* RV10-List: reliability
>>
>> Just started to look at additional things to do that improve
>> reliability.
>>
>> A check with Skytec indicates that the starters are engineered for
>> about 5500 starts. At 2 starts per hour that should be about 2700
>> hours. The starter can be rebuilt for about $160-200.
>>
>> The plane power alternator which Vans supplies, should have new
>> brush assembly at 1000 hours. The replacement part assembly which
>> includes the regulator circuitry, is about $50. I plan to add the
>> assembly to my parts kit.
>>
>> I already carry an additional master contactor, a starter relay,
>> several serviceable sparkplugs and prop O-ring. The tool box
>> contains , in additional to tools, additional wire, safety wire,
>> tie
>> wraps, electrical connectors, fuses, screws, bolts and washers.
>>
>> Anyone else carrying additional spare parts? Many FBOs can't/won't
>> (insurance) work on your experimental because they do not have
>> continuing airworthiness data.
>>
>> N46007 at 310TT
>>
>> * *
>>
>> * *
>>
>> http://www.matronic================
>>
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Has anyone seen these used for aviation? Seems like they might make a good
replacement belt or spare. No removing the prop.
http://www.fennerdrives.com/high_performance_composite_vbelts/powertwist_home.aspx
Dave Leikam
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: reliability
>
> I sealed my spare belt with a food vacuum sealer. Kept out of
> the light I'd think it would outlast my emergency need for a belt.
> When I want to replace mine for maintenance, I'll go buy a new
> fresh one...this sealed one can stay as a spare.
>
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
>
>
> On 8/24/2010 8:15 PM, DLM wrote:
>> I will consider the cap; I plan to keep the part number for the belt
>> handy; but would buy when needed. Those who safety an extra alt belt to
>> the engine may find just another weathered belt in an emergency.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Carl Froehlich <mailto:carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
>> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 24, 2010 3:21 PM
>> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: reliability
>>
>> A couple more:
>>
>> - Spare fuel cap. The pin connecting the tab may break. You can get
>> the cap off with a vice grip but having a spare once you get it off
>> makes life easier when on the road.
>>
>> - Spare alternator belt. An FBO may be able to help pull the prop to
>> replace it.
>>
>> Carl Froehlich
>>
>> RV-8A (550 hrs)
>>
>> RV-10 (system install)
>>
>> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *DLM
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 24, 2010 4:10 PM
>> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
>> *Subject:* RV10-List: reliability
>>
>> Just started to look at additional things to do that improve
>> reliability.
>>
>> A check with Skytec indicates that the starters are engineered for
>> about 5500 starts. At 2 starts per hour that should be about 2700
>> hours. The starter can be rebuilt for about $160-200.
>>
>> The plane power alternator which Vans supplies, should have new
>> brush assembly at 1000 hours. The replacement part assembly which
>> includes the regulator circuitry, is about $50. I plan to add the
>> assembly to my parts kit.
>>
>> I already carry an additional master contactor, a starter relay,
>> several serviceable sparkplugs and prop O-ring. The tool box
>> contains , in additional to tools, additional wire, safety wire, tie
>> wraps, electrical connectors, fuses, screws, bolts and washers.
>>
>> Anyone else carrying additional spare parts? Many FBOs can't/won't
>> (insurance) work on your experimental because they do not have
>> continuing airworthiness data.
>>
>> N46007 at 310TT
>>
>> * *
>>
>> * *
>>
>> http://www.matronic================
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com - List Contribution Web generous nbsp;
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>> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution>
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