RV10-List Digest Archive

Thu 09/02/10


Total Messages Posted: 25



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 06:04 AM - post replies (Chris Hukill)
     2. 08:18 AM - Bose Headset for sale (Mark Garrison)
     3. 10:22 AM - Seat Belt Counter Sink...... (Phillip Perry)
     4. 11:02 AM - Re: Copperstate RV10 Nest 2010 (woxofswa)
     5. 12:41 PM - Fw: HID Lights (Pascal)
     6. 01:22 PM - Re: Fw: HID Lights (Danny Riggs)
     7. 01:40 PM - Re: Fw: HID Lights (Sean Stephens)
     8. 01:54 PM - Re: Fw: HID Lights (William Curtis)
     9. 02:03 PM - Re: Fw: HID Lights (William Curtis)
    10. 02:12 PM - Re: Fw: HID Lights (Tim Olson)
    11. 02:42 PM - Oil Temp issues (Kelly McMullen)
    12. 02:46 PM - Re: Fw: HID Lights (Danny Riggs)
    13. 02:56 PM - Re: Final fitting of the doors (Eric_Kallio)
    14. 03:23 PM - Re: Fw: HID Lights (William Curtis)
    15. 03:23 PM - Re: Seat Belt Counter Sink...... (Lew Gallagher)
    16. 03:29 PM - Re: Fw: HID Lights (DLM)
    17. 03:30 PM - Re: Seat Belt Counter Sink...... (Phillip Perry)
    18. 03:30 PM - Re: Fw: HID Lights (Kelly McMullen)
    19. 03:44 PM - Re: Fw: HID Lights (Tim Olson)
    20. 04:33 PM - Re: HID Lights (Strasnuts)
    21. 05:38 PM - Re: Re: HID Lights (Tim Olson)
    22. 05:47 PM - Re: Re: Final fitting of the doors (Pascal)
    23. 06:02 PM - Re: HID Lights (Lenny Iszak)
    24. 06:05 PM - Re: Re: HID Lights (Seano)
    25. 08:19 PM - Re: Fw: HID Lights (Rick Lark)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:04:01 AM PST US
    From: "Chris Hukill" <cjhukill@cox.net>
    Subject: post replies
    Myron A quote from Matt Dralle's guidelines: (everyone should review these from time to time). - If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it easy to find threads in the archive. - When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive can not be overstated! Chris Hukill do not archive


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    Time: 08:18:01 AM PST US
    From: Mark Garrison <sean@hangerg.com>
    Subject: Bose Headset for sale
    Hello all, If anyone is interested I am selling a used Bose Aviation X headset with about 15 hours of use on it. My wife who hated to fly used this headset and it is no longer needed. So I am looking to sell it for $750 if anyone is interested.


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    Time: 10:22:03 AM PST US
    Subject: Seat Belt Counter Sink......
    From: Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com>
    It's almost time to countersink the seatbelt anchors into the cabin top. Does anyone know the current location of the countersink? It probably time for me to put my name on the list. Thanks, Phil


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    Time: 11:02:55 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Copperstate RV10 Nest 2010
    From: "woxofswa" <woxof@aol.com>
    There has been a request to do the meal on Friday night instead of Sat noon. I am happy either way and will go with the preferences of the majority of those planning to attend. -------- Myron Nelson Mesa, AZ Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse in progress Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=311102#311102


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    Time: 12:41:22 PM PST US
    From: "Pascal" <rv10builder@verizon.net>
    Subject: Fw: HID Lights
    There was a Tom who did this. Hopefully the pictures will come through. He had his light right inside the inlet on the cowls. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Sean Stephens" <sean@stephensville.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 1:22 PM Subject: RV10-List: Taxi Light > > Has anyone put a taxi light in their cowl, or are most just aiming one > of two landing lights for taxi? > > Sean #40303 fuse side skins


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    Time: 01:22:47 PM PST US
    From: Danny Riggs <jdriggs49@msn.com>
    Subject: Fw: HID Lights
    Not too many are putting the light in the cowl because with the engine runn ing you get a LOT of reflection off the back of the prop. At any kind of en gine revolutions the prop disc becomes rather solid and reflects back most of the light trying to shine through it. > From: rv10builder@verizon.net > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Fw: HID Lights > Date: Thu=2C 2 Sep 2010 12:35:25 -0700 > > There was a Tom who did this. Hopefully the pictures will come through. > He had his light right inside the inlet on the cowls. > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Sean Stephens" <sean@stephensville.com> > Sent: Wednesday=2C September 01=2C 2010 1:22 PM > To: "RV 10 list" <rv10-list@matronics.com> > Subject: RV10-List: Taxi Light > > > > > Has anyone put a taxi light in their cowl=2C or are most just aiming o ne > > of two landing lights for taxi? > > > > Sean #40303 fuse side skins >


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    Time: 01:40:38 PM PST US
    From: Sean Stephens <sean@stephensville.com>
    Subject: Re: Fw: HID Lights
    That's kind of what I was worried about. So, one of the two leading edge duckworks aimed for landing and the other aimed for taxi. During landing, both on, during taxi, only taxi aimed one on. That will be easy to setup in the VP-200 menus. :) -Sean #40303 On 9/2/10 3:20 PM, Danny Riggs wrote: > Not too many are putting the light in the cowl because with the engine > running you get a LOT of reflection off the back of the prop. At any > kind of engine revolutions the prop disc becomes rather solid and > reflects back most of the light trying to shine through it. > > > From: rv10builder@verizon.net > > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RV10-List: Fw: HID Lights > > Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 12:35:25 -0700 > > > > There was a Tom who did this. Hopefully the pictures will come through. > > He had his light right inside the inlet on the cowls. > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > From: "Sean Stephens" <sean@stephensville.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 1:22 PM > > To: "RV 10 list" <rv10-list@matronics.com> > > Subject: RV10-List: Taxi Light > > > <sean@stephensville.com> > > > > > > Has anyone put a taxi light in their cowl, or are most just aiming > one > > > of two landing lights for taxi? > > > > > > Sean #40303 fuse side skins > > > * > > > *


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    Time: 01:54:52 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fw: HID Lights
    From: William Curtis <wwc4@njit.edu>
    Cirrus use to mount their lights in the cowl inlets but since they were unable to cushion them effectively, the failed prematurely. Cirrus has subsequently moved the single main landing light to the forward base of the cowl. I'll be mounting my lights in the cowl just like they are on my Cardinal RG. One oriented for landing, the other oriented for taxi. On Van's Airforce forum, there was a picture of an RV-10 fro Brazil with dual cowl mounted lights. -- William N40237 - http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/ On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Pascal <rv10builder@verizon.net> wrote: > There was a Tom who did this. Hopefully the pictures will come through. > He had his light right inside the inlet on the cowls. > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Sean Stephens" <sean@stephensville.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 1:22 PM > To: "RV 10 list" <rv10-list@matronics.com> > Subject: RV10-List: Taxi Light > >> >> Has anyone put a taxi light in their cowl, or are most just aiming one of >> two landing lights for taxi? >> >> Sean #40303 fuse side skins >> >


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    Time: 02:03:45 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fw: HID Lights
    From: William Curtis <wwc4@njit.edu>
    Are you stating this from experience or ... truthiness? This is definately not my experience with the dual cowl mounted lights on my Cardinal RG. As mentioned in my other post, Cirrus also mounts a single HID light in the cowl. William N40237 - http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/ On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Danny Riggs <jdriggs49@msn.com> wrote: > Not too many are putting the light in the cowl because with the engine > running you get a LOT of reflection off the back of the prop. At any kind of > engine revolutions the prop disc becomes rather solid and reflects back most > of the light trying to shine through it. > > > From: rv10builder@verizon.net > > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RV10-List: Fw: HID Lights > > Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 12:35:25 -0700 > > > > > There was a Tom who did this. Hopefully the pictures will come through. > > He had his light right inside the inlet on the cowls. > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > From: "Sean Stephens" <sean@stephensville.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 1:22 PM > > To: "RV 10 list" <rv10-list@matronics.com> > > Subject: RV10-List: Taxi Light > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone put a taxi light in their cowl, or are most just aiming one > > > of two landing lights for taxi? > > > > > > Sean #40303 fuse side skins >


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    Time: 02:12:15 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Fw: HID Lights
    Why put anything in the way of cooling air? Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive On 9/2/2010 2:35 PM, Pascal wrote: > There was a Tom who did this. Hopefully the pictures will come through. > He had his light right inside the inlet on the cowls. > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Sean Stephens" <sean@stephensville.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 1:22 PM > To: "RV 10 list" <rv10-list@matronics.com> > Subject: RV10-List: Taxi Light > >> >> Has anyone put a taxi light in their cowl, or are most just aiming one >> of two landing lights for taxi? >> >> Sean #40303 fuse side skins >


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    Time: 02:42:10 PM PST US
    Subject: Oil Temp issues
    From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
    I was working with an RV-7 owner on finding the cause of his high oil temps(220+) today. He had IO-360 parallel valve engine built from an ECI kit, including an ECI oil filter adapter that put the filter at a 45 degree angle. What we found was a bit surprising. The stock Lycoming filter adapter has both the Vernatherm valve and seat in the adaptor. The ECI, which is FAA/PMA approved has the vernatherm in the adaptor, sealing against a seat on the accessory case. The stock Lycoming filter adapter gasket precluded 3/4 of the radius of the vernatherm from seating at all. You could see where it had pressed against the gasket, and less than 10% of the vernatherm nose had any mark from seating on metal. Thus it was always allowing some of the oil to bypass the oil cooler. It took some sleuthing to determine that the offending part of the gasket could be cut away without harm. Hopefully I will know in a couple days how much difference this makes. Talked to a major engine shop, they had never seen this adapter before. Talked to local FBO, they had seen it, but had nothing but stock Lycoming gasket, like the one causing the problem. Just a caution that just because all of the parts were approved for use on a certified engine, does not mean they will work in harmony with each other. Kelly


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    Time: 02:46:33 PM PST US
    From: Danny Riggs <jdriggs49@msn.com>
    Subject: Fw: HID Lights
    Experience. Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fw: HID Lights From: wwc4@njit.edu Are you stating this from experience or ... truthiness? This is definately not my experience with the dual cowl mounted lights on m y Cardinal RG. As mentioned in my other post=2C Cirrus also mounts a singl e HID light in the cowl. William N40237 - http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/ On Thu=2C Sep 2=2C 2010 at 4:20 PM=2C Danny Riggs <jdriggs49@msn.com> wrote : Not too many are putting the light in the cowl because with the engine runn ing you get a LOT of reflection off the back of the prop. At any kind of en gine revolutions the prop disc becomes rather solid and reflects back most of the light trying to shine through it. > From: rv10builder@verizon.net > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Fw: HID Lights > Date: Thu=2C 2 Sep 2010 12:35:25 -0700 > > There was a Tom who did this. Hopefully the pictures will come through. > He had his light right inside the inlet on the cowls. > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Sean Stephens" <sean@stephensville.com> > Sent: Wednesday=2C September 01=2C 2010 1:22 PM > To: "RV 10 list" <rv10-list@matronics.com> > Subject: RV10-List: Taxi Light > > > > > Has anyone put a taxi light in their cowl=2C or are most just aiming on e > > of two landing lights for taxi? > > > > Sean #40303 fuse side skins


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    Time: 02:56:20 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Final fitting of the doors
    From: "Eric_Kallio" <scout019@msn.com>
    I have pictures uploaded at the link below. http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=61944 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=311144#311144


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    Time: 03:23:26 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fw: HID Lights
    From: William Curtis <wwc4@njit.edu>
    Danny, Can you share some details on this? Type of light, etc? Aircraft type? Wa s this on an RV? Unless the cowl mounted light was cycling at the same frequency as the propeller rotation, and the back of the prop was painted white, I can=92t imagine how the light would be reflected back toward the pilot. As previously stated many certified propeller aircraft have cowl mounted lights. If your experience was borne out, I think those manufacturers woul d have altered that approach. -- William N40237 - http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/ On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Danny Riggs <jdriggs49@msn.com> wrote: > Experience. > > ------------------------------ > Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 17:03:07 -0400 > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fw: HID Lights > From: wwc4@njit.edu > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > > Are you stating this from experience or ... truthiness? > > This is definately not my experience with the dual cowl mounted lights on > my Cardinal RG. As mentioned in my other post, Cirrus also mounts a sing le > HID light in the cowl. > > William > N40237 - http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/ > > On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Danny Riggs <jdriggs49@msn.com> wrote: > > Not too many are putting the light in the cowl because with the engine > running you get a LOT of reflection off the back of the prop. At any kind of > engine revolutions the prop disc becomes rather solid and reflects back m ost > of the light trying to shine through it. > >


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    Time: 03:23:26 PM PST US
    From: "Lew Gallagher" <lewgall@charter.net>
    Subject: Re: Seat Belt Counter Sink......
    Hey Phil, The magical mystery countersink has been here dormant for awhile and is ready to venture out again. Send me your mailing address and I'll get it on it's way. Others interested should let me know so I can send it on a circuit. Later, - Lew ----- Original Message ----- From: Phillip Perry To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 1:19 PM Subject: RV10-List: Seat Belt Counter Sink...... It's almost time to countersink the seatbelt anchors into the cabin top. Does anyone know the current location of the countersink? It probably time for me to put my name on the list. Thanks, Phil


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    Time: 03:29:12 PM PST US
    From: "DLM" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Fw: HID Lights
    The halogens get very hot but HID do not. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 2:11 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fw: HID Lights > > Why put anything in the way of cooling air? > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD > do not archive > > > On 9/2/2010 2:35 PM, Pascal wrote: >> There was a Tom who did this. Hopefully the pictures will come through. >> He had his light right inside the inlet on the cowls. >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Sean Stephens" <sean@stephensville.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 1:22 PM >> To: "RV 10 list" <rv10-list@matronics.com> >> Subject: RV10-List: Taxi Light >> >>> >>> Has anyone put a taxi light in their cowl, or are most just aiming one >>> of two landing lights for taxi? >>> >>> Sean #40303 fuse side skins >> > > > >


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    Time: 03:30:13 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Seat Belt Counter Sink......
    From: Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com>
    Lew, I'll be happy to take responsibility for it at this point and then pass it along to the next poor soul who is stuck in fiberglass purgatory. I'll send you my mailing address in a direct message. Thanks! Phil On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Lew Gallagher <lewgall@charter.net> wrote: > Hey Phil, > > The magical mystery countersink has been here dormant for awhile and is > ready to venture out again. Send me your mailing address and I'll get it on > it's way. Others interested should let me know so I can send it on a > circuit. > > Later, - Lew > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com> > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Thursday, September 02, 2010 1:19 PM > *Subject:* RV10-List: Seat Belt Counter Sink...... > > It's almost time to countersink the seatbelt anchors into the cabin top. > > Does anyone know the current location of the countersink? It probably time > for me to put my name on the list. > > Thanks, > Phil > > > * > > * > >


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    Time: 03:30:13 PM PST US
    From: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
    Subject: Re: Fw: HID Lights
    I think the difference is that the lights pictured are in the cowl inlets at the top of the cowl, where all certified aircraft lighting in the cowl is near the bottom of the cowl. You only need to look at the projector based product that was displaying a heads up EFIS on the back of the prop to see how reflective it can be. Kelly On 9/2/2010 3:22 PM, William Curtis wrote: > Danny, > > Can you share some details on this? Type of light, etc? Aircraft > type? Was this on an RV? > > Unless the cowl mounted light was cycling at the same frequency as the > propeller rotation, and the back of the prop was painted white, I > cant imagine how the light would be reflected back toward the pilot. > > As previously stated many certified propeller aircraft have cowl > mounted lights. If your experience was borne out, I think those > manufacturers would have altered that approach. > > > -- > William > N40237 - http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/ > On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Danny Riggs <jdriggs49@msn.com > <mailto:jdriggs49@msn.com>> wrote: > > Experience. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 17:03:07 -0400 > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fw: HID Lights > From: wwc4@njit.edu <mailto:wwc4@njit.edu> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com> > > Are you stating this from experience or ... truthiness? > This is definately not my experience with the dual cowl mounted > lights on my Cardinal RG. As mentioned in my other post, Cirrus > also mounts a single HID light in the cowl. > > William > N40237 - http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/ > On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Danny Riggs <jdriggs49@msn.com > <mailto:jdriggs49@msn.com>> wrote: > > Not too many are putting the light in the cowl because with > the engine running you get a LOT of reflection off the back of > the prop. At any kind of engine revolutions the prop disc > becomes rather solid and reflects back most of the light > trying to shine through it. > > > * > > > *


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    Time: 03:44:44 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fw: HID Lights
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    That's not my point. Like James cowl users found, something as simple as a deflector in front of an injector causing various air pressure and flow changes....in that case a positive one. So why stick a big lightbulb right in the path of airflow coming into the cowl and plenum when we spend time trying to make air ramps and smooth flow transitions. Seems pointless to me when there are plenty of superior lighting positions to choose from. Why in a cowl inlet? Tim On Sep 2, 2010, at 5:26 PM, "DLM" <dlm46007@cox.net> wrote: > > The halogens get very hot but HID do not. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com> > To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 2:11 PM > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fw: HID Lights > > >> Why put anything in the way of cooling air? >> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD >> do not archive >> On 9/2/2010 2:35 PM, Pascal wrote: >>> There was a Tom who did this. Hopefully the pictures will come through. >>> He had his light right inside the inlet on the cowls. >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Sean Stephens" <sean@stephensville.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 1:22 PM >>> To: "RV 10 list" <rv10-list@matronics.com> >>> Subject: RV10-List: Taxi Light >>> >>>> >>>> Has anyone put a taxi light in their cowl, or are most just aiming one >>>> of two landing lights for taxi? >>>> >>>> Sean #40303 fuse side skins >>> >> > > >


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    Time: 04:33:46 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: HID Lights
    From: "Strasnuts" <sean@braunandco.com>
    Geez Tim, I already fitted one light on my cowl. I bet you are REALLY going to hate it. -------- Cust. #40936 RV-10 SB Fuselage N801VR reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=311157#311157 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/cowl_121.jpg


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    Time: 05:38:01 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: HID Lights
    HA! Hey, but you can say you spent less than anyone else on your lights. :) Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive On 9/2/2010 6:31 PM, Strasnuts wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Strasnuts"<sean@braunandco.com> > > Geez Tim, I already fitted one light on my cowl. I bet you are REALLY going to hate it. > > -------- > Cust. #40936 > RV-10 SB Fuselage > N801VR reserved > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/cowl_121.jpg >


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    Time: 05:47:17 PM PST US
    From: "Pascal" <rv10builder@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Final fitting of the doors
    Eric; I posted a response. when you have a chance answer some questions so we can get this resolved for you. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Eric_Kallio" <scout019@msn.com> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 2:55 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Final fitting of the doors > > I have pictures uploaded at the link below. > > http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=61944 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=311144#311144 > > >


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    Time: 06:02:03 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: HID Lights
    From: "Lenny Iszak" <lenard@rapiddecision.com>
    Sean, mind if i steal your idea? This should fix my James cowl injector problems with those positive air pressures. :) Lenny Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=311174#311174


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    Time: 06:05:56 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: HID Lights
    From: Seano <sean@braunandco.com>
    Maybe I'll sell a kit for it on PlaneAround.com! Sent from my iPhone On Sep 2, 2010, at 19:01, "Lenny Iszak" <lenard@rapiddecision.com> wrote: > > Sean, mind if i steal your idea? This should fix my James cowl injector problems with those positive air pressures. :) > > Lenny > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=311174#311174 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:19:52 PM PST US
    From: Rick Lark <larkrv10@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: Re: Fw: HID Lights
    I think Kelly (and William) hit it bang on.=C2- The Cessna Cardinals have the lights down low in the cowl, so there is=C2-no reflection back into the cockpit from the prop.=C2- Certainly I have never seen any in mine. Thx for the opinions.=C2- I will be ordering the Duckworth's 35W D1S HID with the Phillips bulb. =C2- Another question then begs an answer.=C2- Why the left wing for the landi ng light as opposed to the right? =C2- Regards,=C2- Rick #40956 Southampton, Ont =C2- --- On Thu, 9/2/10, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote: From: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fw: HID Lights Received: Thursday, September 2, 2010, 10:28 PM I think the difference is that the lights pictured are in the cowl inlets a t the top of the cowl, where all certified aircraft lighting in the cowl is near the bottom of the cowl. You only need to look at the projector based product that was displaying a heads up EFIS on the back of the prop to see how reflective it can be. Kelly On 9/2/2010 3:22 PM, William Curtis wrote: > Danny, > > Can you share some details on this? Type of light, etc?=C2- Aircraft ty pe?=C2- Was this on an RV? > > Unless the cowl mounted light was cycling at the same frequency as the pr opeller rotation, and the back of the prop was painted white, I can =99t imagine how the light would be reflected back toward the pilot. > > As previously stated many certified propeller aircraft have cowl mounted lights. If your experience was borne out, I think those manufacturers would have altered that approach. > > > -- William > N40237 - http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/ > On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Danny Riggs <jdriggs49@msn.com <mailto:jd riggs49@msn.com>> wrote: > >=C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-Experience. > >=C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-------------------------------------------------- ----------------------- >=C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 17:03:07 -0400 >=C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fw: HID Lights >=C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-From: wwc4@njit.edu <mailto:wwc4@njit.edu> >=C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-To: rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@mat ronics.com> > >=C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-Are you stating this from experience or ... truth iness? >=C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-This is definately not my experience with the dua l cowl mounted >=C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-lights on my Cardinal RG.=C2- As mentioned in m y other post, Cirrus >=C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-also mounts a single HID light in the cowl. > >=C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-William >=C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-N40237 - http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/ >=C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Danny Riggs <jdri ggs49@msn.com >=C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-<mailto:jdriggs49@msn.com>> wrote: > >=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-Not too many are putting the light in the cowl because with >=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-the engine running you get a LOT of reflection off the back of >=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-the prop. At any kind of engine rev olutions the prop disc >=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-becomes rather solid and reflects b ack most of the light >=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-trying to shine through it. > > > > * > > > * S WEB FORUMS - on Web Site - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin. =0A=0A




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