---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 09/13/10: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:24 AM - Re: LED Nav lights (Bob Leffler) 2. 10:53 AM - Lower cowling slot (Strasnuts) 3. 11:12 AM - Re: Lower cowling slot (Kevin Belue) 4. 11:25 AM - Re: Lower cowling slot (Condrey, Bob (US SSA)) 5. 03:01 PM - Re: Lower cowling slot (Deems Davis) 6. 03:12 PM - Re: LED Nav lights (Deems Davis) 7. 03:27 PM - iPad Mount (Rob Kermanj) 8. 03:47 PM - For sale: Disassembled Lycoming IO-540-C4B5 (rvdave) 9. 04:16 PM - Re: LED Nav lights (Rick and Sandra Lark) 10. 05:38 PM - Re: Re: Flush door handle locks (Les Kearney) 11. 05:41 PM - Re: Re: Flush door handle locks (Les Kearney) 12. 06:14 PM - Door Attach Struts (Les Kearney) 13. 07:46 PM - Re: iPad Mount (Miller John) 14. 08:15 PM - Re: Lower cowling slot (Strasnuts) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:24:18 AM PST US From: "Bob Leffler" Subject: RE: RV10-List: LED Nav lights The Aeroled and Aveo position/strobe lights are completely self-contained. There are no other external circuit board or power supplies. You can get best pricing on the Aeroled unit through Van's. It was even better than their show pricing at OSH. From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Lark Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 11:11 PM Subject: RV10-List: LED Nav lights Ok guys, so now I'm really confused Certainly Jeffsrv-7a leds are impresive. No questions there. I was of the opinion that the new type of LED strobes would eliminate elctrical noise isues that the old strobes had. Or, is it a none issue?? Deems, I need to ask. Your coment on your site with regards to being "put off by the "circuit boards and electronic components hanging out exposed", does that apply to the Aveo and Aero Led systems? Anyway all opinions/options are still welcome. Thx. Rick #40956 Southampton, Ont ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:53:46 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Lower cowling slot From: "Strasnuts" I would like to make a removable plate on the lower cowling to make it easier to put on and take off. I was wondering if it's worth it for those of you who have done it and if I should close the gap to the front gear leg or leave the same amount of space for cooling. Was this space used for the equation for cooling? Any pics out there for reference? Thanks -------- Cust. #40936 RV-10 SB Fuselage N801VR reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312297#312297 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:12:56 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Lower cowling slot From: Kevin Belue I've wondered if this slot allows in air opposing the cooling air coming down through the engine. Especially in climb, the nose is at an upward angle to the relative airflow, allowing the air to flow into the slot and oppose the engine cooling air. I've wanted to measure the CHT difference before and after closing the slot, but haven't yet.... Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2010, at 12:50 PM, "Strasnuts" wrote: > > I would like to make a removable plate on the lower cowling to make it easier to put on and take off. I was wondering if it's worth it for those of you who have done it and if I should close the gap to the front gear leg or leave the same amount of space for cooling. Was this space used for the equation for cooling? Any pics out there for reference? > > Thanks > > -------- > Cust. #40936 > RV-10 SB Fuselage > N801VR reserved > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312297#312297 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:25:48 AM PST US From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Lower cowling slot I extended the slot forward several inches, installed nutplates along the sides and then made an aluminum cover plate that essentially made the exposed part of the slot the same as stock. No need to mess around to do anything but surface mounting of the plate - it's only visible to those on their hands and knees under the cowl. Idea came from Alex D. (RVTraining.com) who also did this on his -10. Bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Strasnuts Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 12:50 PM Subject: RV10-List: Lower cowling slot I would like to make a removable plate on the lower cowling to make it easier to put on and take off. I was wondering if it's worth it for those of you who have done it and if I should close the gap to the front gear leg or leave the same amount of space for cooling. Was this space used for the equation for cooling? Any pics out there for reference? Thanks -------- Cust. #40936 RV-10 SB Fuselage N801VR reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312297#312297 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:01:12 PM PST US From: Deems Davis Subject: Re: RV10-List: Lower cowling slot I did the same thing initially, it was to allow for ease of removal w/ 3 bld prop. http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2047%20Spinner%20and%20Cowling/slides/DSC04249.html (click forward for 8-9 pictures). But when working on cooling issues I modified the original removable plate to one which included louvers, in the hope that it would allow for more exit air and better cooling. http://deemsrv10.com/album/Phase1/slides/DSC07558.html (several pics) As you can see from the pictures, I enclosed the slot with a cover aft of the landing gear leg. RESULTS : I can't say as any of this made a significant difference in cooling. Deems Davis www.deemsrv10.com On 9/13/2010 11:19 AM, Condrey, Bob (US SSA) wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" > > I extended the slot forward several inches, installed nutplates along the sides and then made an aluminum cover plate that essentially made the exposed part of the slot the same as stock. No need to mess around to do anything but surface mounting of the plate - it's only visible to those on their hands and knees under the cowl. Idea came from Alex D. (RVTraining.com) who also did this on his -10. > > Bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Strasnuts > Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 12:50 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Lower cowling slot > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Strasnuts" > > I would like to make a removable plate on the lower cowling to make it easier to put on and take off. I was wondering if it's worth it for those of you who have done it and if I should close the gap to the front gear leg or leave the same amount of space for cooling. Was this space used for the equation for cooling? Any pics out there for reference? > > Thanks > > -------- > Cust. #40936 > RV-10 SB Fuselage > N801VR reserved > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312297#312297 > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:12:53 PM PST US From: Deems Davis Subject: Re: RV10-List: LED Nav lights I'm not familiar with the Aveo or Aero LED systems, so I can't comment. I just didin't like the green printed circuit boards that were visible on some of the commercial products at the time of my decision making. Deems On 9/12/2010 8:11 PM, Rick Lark wrote: > Ok guys, so now I'm really confused > Certainly Jeffsrv-7a leds are impresive. No questions there. > I was of the opinion that the new type of LED strobes would eliminate > elctrical noise isues that the old strobes had. Or, is it a none issue?? > Deems, I need to ask. Your coment on your site with regards to being > "put off by the "circuit boards and electronic components hanging out > exposed", does that apply to the Aveo and Aero Led systems? > Anyway all opinions/options are still welcome. Thx. > Rick > #40956 > Southampton, Ont > > > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:27:56 PM PST US From: Rob Kermanj Subject: RV10-List: iPad Mount I finally received my iPad mount from Ram Mounts. It is a good quality and strong mount. I used a sheet of aluminum and formed it around the tunnel to use as a temporary bracket and to mount the iPad. Once flight testing t is complete, I will most likely remove the extra aluminum bracket and attach the mount with thru bolts to the tunnel cover. I have pointed the iPad's charging port up under the panel; so that I can get a 12V charger and connect it behind the panel to charge continuously during flights. Flight test, this weekend. IMG_0046.JPG IMG_0047.JPG ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:47:18 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: For sale: Disassembled Lycoming IO-540-C4B5 From: "rvdave" I am posting this to the RV10 list before advertising elsewhere, I have this narrow deck engine for sale, I have decided to purchase new. This was taken off an Aztec, comes with propellor governor, Bendix mags & fuel servo. Yellow tagged items include: crankshaft & counterweights, crankcase, accessory case, oil pan, cylinders, pistons, rods. Needs piston rings, camshaft, & accessory case items. $12,500 obo. Call Dave at 231 878 6571 or rvdave@centurytel.net -------- Dave Ford RV6 flying RV10 building Cadillac, MI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312326#312326 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:16:54 PM PST US From: "Rick and Sandra Lark" Subject: Re: RV10-List: LED Nav lights Ahh, now I understand what you meant. The 2 products I'm considering aren't built that way. Thx Deems ----- Original Message ----- From: Deems Davis To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 6:07 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: LED Nav lights I'm not familiar with the Aveo or Aero LED systems, so I can't comment. I just didin't like the green printed circuit boards that were visible on some of the commercial products at the time of my decision making. Deems On 9/12/2010 8:11 PM, Rick Lark wrote: Ok guys, so now I'm really confused Certainly Jeffsrv-7a leds are impresive. No questions there. I was of the opinion that the new type of LED strobes would eliminate elctrical noise isues that the old strobes had. Or, is it a none issue?? Deems, I need to ask. Your coment on your site with regards to being "put off by the "circuit boards and electronic components hanging out exposed", does that apply to the Aveo and Aero Led systems? Anyway all opinions/options are still welcome. Thx. Rick #40956 Southampton, Ont ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 09/13/10 14:35:00 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:38:06 PM PST US From: "Les Kearney" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Flush door handle locks Sean I just installed the first of two door catches I picked up from you at KOSH. To recap, I have the IFLYRV10 flush door handles and lockks installed already. It is the flush handle cams that determine how far the door pins can move. This appears to be about 110 degrees of handle turn. I also found that the 180 degree racks are not required / -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Strasnuts Sent: September-09-10 11:39 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Flush door handle locks Mouser, If you haven't cut your Vans' handle racks yet you can just buy the 180 new kit and try to get as much rotation from it as possible. The 180 new kit and the 90 kit are the same price. The 180 retro is more because the extra gear racks to replace the Vans' handle racks are included. I have sold 180 degree kits to builders with flush handle installations do I know they are out there. Feel free to call me. number on www.planearound.com. -------- Cust. #40936 RV-10 SB Fuselage N801VR reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=311939#311939 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:41:47 PM PST US From: "Les Kearney" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Flush door handle locks Hmmm I seemed to have hit send before I finished the email below. Here it is again in its entirety... ================================= Sean I just installed the first of two door catches I picked up from you at KOSH. To recap, I have the IFLYRV10 flush door handles and lockks installed already. It is the flush handle cams that determine how far the door pins can move. This appears to be about 110 degrees of handle turn. I also found that the 180 degree racks are not required / or useful as the amount of rotation can be accomodated by the standard racks. You gent a little extra length from the racks by removing the pop rivet studs at the end of the door racks. They are not necessary as the IFLYRV10 cam limits the amount of movement. Cheers Les #40643 -----Original Message----- From: Les Kearney [mailto:kearney@shaw.ca] Sent: September-13-10 6:24 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Flush door handle locks Sean I just installed the first of two door catches I picked up from you at KOSH. To recap, I have the IFLYRV10 flush door handles and lockks installed already. It is the flush handle cams that determine how far the door pins can move. This appears to be about 110 degrees of handle turn. I also found that the 180 degree racks are not required / -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Strasnuts Sent: September-09-10 11:39 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Flush door handle locks Mouser, If you haven't cut your Vans' handle racks yet you can just buy the 180 new kit and try to get as much rotation from it as possible. The 180 new kit and the 90 kit are the same price. The 180 retro is more because the extra gear racks to replace the Vans' handle racks are included. I have sold 180 degree kits to builders with flush handle installations do I know they are out there. Feel free to call me. number on www.planearound.com. -------- Cust. #40936 RV-10 SB Fuselage N801VR reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=311939#311939 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:14:02 PM PST US From: "Les Kearney" Subject: RV10-List: Door Attach Struts Hi At KOSH I picked up a couple of door attach struts from Sean (www.planearound.com). I did the retrofit recently and the hanger consensus was they look far superior to the the steel brackets from Vans. The retrofit only required a small adjustment to one hole that I didn't drill exactly perpendicular when installing the original brackets. They can be found at http://www.planearound.com/DOOR-STRUT-ATTACH-BRACKETS-DS2.htm Cheers Les #40643 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:46:46 PM PST US From: Miller John Subject: Re: RV10-List: iPad Mount I tried my new RAM mounts today as well, but mine are hanging from the bracket over the glare shield. I like my position, but it does cover up my view of GRT EIS display. Sorry, no picture to post yet, but will do so later. Rob's is nice, but I have another row of knobs below the throttle area, plus I have a fire extinguisher mounted on top of the tunnel fwd of Rob's mount plus a spring loaded access port in the top of the tunnel where I can quickly and easily gut in a flex hose from the extinguisher inside of the tunnel to discharge if needed. grumpy N184JM On Sep 13, 2010, at 5:17 PM, Rob Kermanj wrote: > I finally received my iPad mount from Ram Mounts. It is a good > quality and strong mount. > > I used a sheet of aluminum and formed it around the tunnel to use as > a temporary bracket and to mount the iPad. Once flight testing t is > complete, I will most likely remove the extra aluminum bracket and > attach the mount with thru bolts to the tunnel cover. > > I have pointed the iPad's charging port up under the panel; so that > I can get a 12V charger and connect it behind the panel to charge > continuously during flights. > > Flight test, this weekend. > > > IMG_0046.JPG > > > IMG_0047.JPG > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:15:44 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Lower cowling slot From: "Strasnuts" Thanks for the replies. I made this today. Hopefully this makes it a little easier to take off the cowl. It is 7 more screws on the lower cowl but I will have the screwdriver out anyway. -------- Cust. #40936 RV-10 SB Fuselage N801VR reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312362#312362 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/cowl_plate_949.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/cowl_plate_312.jpg ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.