---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 09/23/10: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:28 AM - Fw: Re: performance (pitch trim) (Kevin Belue) 2. 07:37 AM - Andair Fuel Assembly (Phillip Perry) 3. 07:37 AM - Re: performance (pitch trim) (bcondrey) 4. 10:42 AM - Re: performance (pitch trim) (Lenny Iszak) 5. 11:09 AM - Re: performance (pitch trim) (Lenny Iszak) 6. 12:53 PM - Re: performance (pitch trim) (rv10flyer) 7. 05:00 PM - Fw: iPad Mount update (Rob Kermanj) 8. 07:49 PM - Re: Fw: iPad Mount update (Deems Davis) 9. 10:17 PM - California coast via RV10? (Tim Olson) 10. 11:43 PM - Re: California coast via RV10? (Chris Colohan) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:28:21 AM PST US Subject: Fwd: RV10-List: Re: performance (pitch trim) From: Kevin Belue ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:37:17 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Andair Fuel Assembly From: Phillip Perry Hi Everyone, Are any of you using the Andair Fuel Filter and Pump? If so, do you have photos of your installation? I'll post some photos or a video of mine so you can see how I did it. But I'd like to compare my installation to others and confirm that I haven't done anything stupid. I'm also curious to know which model number of pump and filter you're using. I have their filter/pump combo for 3/8" lines (which are what we use in the RV-10), but their site suggest this pump combo is for IO360's and such. The folks from Andair said this was the right pump at Oshkosh, but I'd like to make sure. Andair sells a pump marketed for the IO540, but it has 1/2" lines. So before I do something really stupid, I'd like to bounce this off a few other Andair RV-10 drivers/builders to see what they're using and doing inside the tunnel. Thanks, Phil ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:37:59 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: performance (pitch trim) From: "bcondrey" Lyle, There are two ways to wire in the AP auto-trim system from TT. First way is as you describe - when the AP is enabled the auto-trim system takes over and manual trim is disabled. Second way has a switch to disable autotrim completely at any time and revert to manual trim. Bob Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313479#313479 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:42:57 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: performance (pitch trim) From: "Lenny Iszak" Here's how Trio Avionics suggests to wire in their autotrim. The autopilot has trim all the time, except when you activate the manual trim, the power going down the trim wires, will activate a relay which removes control from the autopilot's autotrim and gives control to the manual one. This works out pretty good as long as that relay doesn't fail. I have yet to figure out what are the failure modes of the Omron relay. I was thinking of hooking up a relay to a microcontroller and let it switch on and off a gazillion times until it fails. The cool feature i like about this is that when the autopilot is not engaged, the knob on the autopilot can be used to run the trim, which provides for a nice backup to the manual trim system. See attached image for wiring (Option 2) Lenny Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313511#313511 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:09:40 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: performance (pitch trim) From: "Lenny Iszak" Oops, forgot the picture. Here it is: -------- Lenny #40803 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313518#313518 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/trio_autotrim_157.jpg ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:53:29 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: performance (pitch trim) From: "rv10flyer" I think I will install a "pitch trim enable" push button switch just above my rocker switch on the panel. Switch will have deep bezel. Both next to throttle control. Then no worries about motor speed, stuck relays, kids or something resting on the stick. Also less weight/money/build time. -------- Wayne Gillispie, A&P 5/93, PPC 10/08 Grayson, KY Bldr# 40983 Ord complete kit 8/24/09; DB Sch del 11/20/09 Emp 12/01/09-3/14/10 332 hrs Wings 3/14/10- Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313527#313527 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:00:33 PM PST US From: Rob Kermanj Subject: Fwd: RV10-List: iPad Mount update I decided to relocate my iPad after my a flight test last weekend. I found the previous location a little too distant for my taste. I think the most ideal position is at eye level where John Miller has installed his. Hopefully the Gizmo guys will come up with a panel mount and give those in process of planning their panel another option. I swapped the 2" standard clamp leg with a 6" long leg from Ram Mount (they are great people to deal with) and I think that I like this arrangement much better. The second picture shows the iPad in it's pilot-exit configuration. Will post a flight test report this weekend. Begin forwarded message: > From: Rob Kermanj > Date: September 13, 2010 6:17:08 PM EDT > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: iPad Mount > > I finally received my iPad mount from Ram Mounts. It is a good quality and strong mount. > > I used a sheet of aluminum and formed it around the tunnel to use as a temporary bracket and to mount the iPad. Once flight testing t is complete, I will most likely remove the extra aluminum bracket and attach the mount with thru bolts to the tunnel cover. > > I have pointed the iPad's charging port up under the panel; so that I can get a 12V charger and connect it behind the panel to charge continuously during flights. > > Flight test, this weekend. > > > > > > IMG_0046.JPG > > > > IMG_0047.JPG > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:49:51 PM PST US From: Deems Davis Subject: Re: Fwd: RV10-List: iPad Mount update ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:17:36 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: RV10-List: California coast via RV10? I'd like to find out the feasibility of a flight, from those who live out on the far West...near the coast. I'm contemplating a flight that goes all the way from Washington State to San Diego, with a couple of quick stops on the way. I want to stop for a quick trip out to Catalina island, since that's one of those places you read about all the time, but I rarely will ever get to that part of the country. After a short stop at Catalina island it would be back to the mainland maybe by San Diego. Not sure if I'd even stay the night there...seems that it's hard to find a real regular small GA airport in those parts. But on to the Sedona area. My concern is that I would LOVE to do the flight down the California coast at 2000-3000', just cruising along and seeing the sights. Even 1000' some of the time. But, with all the airspace and cities and KSFO's Bravo and especially the LAX area as I go out to the island, how practical is that idea? And, is the weather this coming time of year usually conducive to such a flight? I can do it another time if I'm picking a bad time for such a trip. Any good advice on how to flight plan that one? It's all foreign territory to me. Florida is busy too, but not mountainous, so it's easier. -- Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:43:21 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: California coast via RV10? From: Chris Colohan I'm not super experienced, but I learned to fly in California, and have flow to San Diego, so I can offer at least a few random data points: - If you are IFR rated, everything becomes easier. Transitioning the LAX or SFO class B while IFR is trivial. - In the SFO area is is quite possible to fly under the class B while staying near the coast. At one point north of Half Moon Bay you end up out of gliding range of shore for a minute -- whether this is okay with you depends on your risk tolerance. It is also quite reasonable to get a class B transition right over SFO (ask for a "Bay Tour"), or to fly up the east bay over Oakland. Just be sure you are comfortable talking to ATC, and do what you can to memorize the complex airspace before doing this segment, as it is quite common to be told "avoid class B" for some routings, or if they are too busy for VFR planes. - There are plenty of places along the coast where you have a rocky cliff dropping to the ocean, followed by mountains. This means "few choices for a good emergency landing if you fly low". Folks seem to fly here anyways, so this also depends on your tolerance for risk. - During the summer the ocean by the shore in the SF area gets a marine layer on it every day, and it is rare to find a good clear day for flying on the coast. During the fall it is much easier to avoid flying over a layer. - If you want to stop in San Diego KMYF is quite convenient. - If you happen to stop at Palo Alto (KPAO) I live pretty darn close, and would be happy to buy you dinner. (I owe you at least that, given the huge value of your web site...) - If you've never done any mountain flying, it is quite worthwhile to get a mountain checkout before spending too much time flying over/near mountains. Even on clear not-too-windy days it can be quite surprising when you get 1000fpm sink from a mountain wave coming off a distant mountain (as I did in the LA area as I flew down to San Diego). At a minimum, read Sparky Imeson's book, it is quite short and very educational. Chris On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:17 PM, Tim Olson wrote: > > I'd like to find out the feasibility of a flight, from those > who live out on the far West...near the coast. > > I'm contemplating a flight that goes all the way from > Washington State to San Diego, with a couple of quick > stops on the way. I want to stop for a quick trip out to > Catalina island, since that's one of those places you > read about all the time, but I rarely will ever get to > that part of the country. After a short stop at Catalina > island it would be back to the mainland maybe by San Diego. > Not sure if I'd even stay the night there...seems that > it's hard to find a real regular small GA airport in those > parts. But on to the Sedona area. > > My concern is that I would LOVE to do the flight down the > California coast at 2000-3000', just cruising along and > seeing the sights. Even 1000' some of the time. > But, with all the airspace and cities and KSFO's Bravo > and especially the LAX area as I go out to the island, > how practical is that idea? And, is the weather this > coming time of year usually conducive to such a flight? > I can do it another time if I'm picking a bad time for > such a trip. > > Any good advice on how to flight plan that one? It's > all foreign territory to me. Florida is busy too, but > not mountainous, so it's easier. > > -- > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD > do not archive > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.