RV10-List Digest Archive

Fri 09/24/10


Total Messages Posted: 31



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 01:42 AM - Re: California coast via RV10? (woxofswa)
     2. 01:59 AM - I heard your email  (ch_khong@yahoo.com)
     3. 03:49 AM - Re: California coast via RV10? (Rob Kermanj)
     4. 05:50 AM - Re: Re: California coast via RV10? (Kelly McMullen)
     5. 05:52 AM - Re: California coast via RV10? (rv10flyer)
     6. 06:52 AM - Re: Re: California coast via RV10? (Tim Olson)
     7. 07:35 AM - Re: Fw: iPad Mount update (Deems Davis)
     8. 07:36 AM - Re: California coast via RV10? (John Gonzalez)
     9. 08:06 AM - Re: Fw: iPad Mount update (Kelly McMullen)
    10. 08:13 AM - Re: California coast via RV10? (Masys, Daniel R)
    11. 08:14 AM - Re: Re: California coast via RV10? (Pascal)
    12. 08:28 AM - Re: Fw: iPad Mount update (Tim Olson)
    13. 08:42 AM - Re: Fw: iPad Mount update (Tim Olson)
    14. 08:43 AM - Re: Re: California coast via RV10? (Tim Olson)
    15. 08:44 AM - Re: iPad Mount update (Rob Kermanj)
    16. 08:45 AM - Re: Re: California coast via RV10? (Robin Marks)
    17. 08:48 AM - Blank Messages (was: iPad Mount update) (Sean Stephens)
    18. 08:57 AM - Re: iPad Mount update (Tim Olson)
    19. 08:59 AM - Re: Fw: iPad Mount update (Sean Stephens)
    20. 09:03 AM - Re: Blank Messages (was: iPad Mount update) (Tim Olson)
    21. 09:06 AM - Re: iPad Mount update (Rob Kermanj)
    22. 09:32 AM - Re: Fw: iPad Mount update (Robin Marks)
    23. 09:46 AM - Re: California coast via RV10? (Jeff Carpenter)
    24. 10:04 AM - Re: Blank Messages (was: iPad Mount update) (Matt Dralle)
    25. 10:45 AM - Re: Fw: iPad Mount update (Tim Olson)
    26. 11:09 AM - Re: Fw: iPad Mount update (Tim Olson)
    27. 12:05 PM - Re: Fw: iPad Mount update (Robin Marks)
    28. 04:34 PM - Aviation Resources On The Web (Albert Gardner)
    29. 06:58 PM - Re: Aviation Resources On The Web (Bob Turner)
    30. 07:41 PM - Re: Aviation Resources On The Web (Pascal)
    31. 07:50 PM - Re: Aviation Resources On The Web (John Melchert)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:42:07 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: California coast via RV10?
    From: "woxofswa" <woxof@aol.com>
    Tim, I haven't done much on the coast in little airplanes, but I've been watching them for 25 years from up higher. It seems to me that there are VFR corridors through most of it. At LAX, it is right off the end of the runways along the shoreline, and we often get traffic along there pointed out. I did fly my Socata into Hawthorne near LAX and it was actually quite easy in and out. There are several smaller airports around San Diego, but even SAN itself seems GA friendly as long as you don't hit them during a rush. I've been to Catalina and it wan't bad at all. I think the only real problem area on the coast is around Vandenberg AFB and Point Magu. San Luis Obisbo, Santa Maria were nice stops in my Metro days as were Santa Barbara and Monterrey. They are all GA friendly. One caution for any California airport is that they do ramp inspections and note N numbers and send out tax notices if you haven't paid them any tax. It happened to me and is a pain to prove that you are just a visitor. Sedona is very nice. Great restaurant and a decent hotel a short walk from the ramp. Plan it during Copperstate and stop by the RV10 nest. -------- Myron Nelson Mesa, AZ Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse in progress Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313560#313560


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    Time: 01:59:02 AM PST US
    Subject: I heard your email
    From: ch_khong@yahoo.com
    www.DriveSafe.ly read it to me.I will get back to you soon. Sent via BlackBerry from Telstra


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    Time: 03:49:04 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: California coast via RV10?
    From: Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com>
    I have flown the coast a couple of times and did not find anything special to worry about. It has been a while but I remember that both San Francisco and LAX controllers were very helpful. Make sure you ask for the Golden Gate bridge tour when you talk to San Francisco. They have a routine where they send you over the bridge at lower altitude for sight seeing. On that day, half of the bridge was under fog and it was a awesome sight. The sight seeing routine was offered to me by the controllers and I did not know anything about it before I got there. One thing I did not like; the coast has a rugged landscape and if I remember right, most of the time you have no emergency lading spot other than ditching in cold waters. Do Not archive. On Sep 24, 2010, at 12:17 AM, Tim Olson wrote: > > I'd like to find out the feasibility of a flight, from those > who live out on the far West...near the coast. > > I'm contemplating a flight that goes all the way from > Washington State to San Diego, with a couple of quick > stops on the way. I want to stop for a quick trip out to > Catalina island, since that's one of those places you > read about all the time, but I rarely will ever get to > that part of the country. After a short stop at Catalina > island it would be back to the mainland maybe by San Diego. > Not sure if I'd even stay the night there...seems that > it's hard to find a real regular small GA airport in those > parts. But on to the Sedona area. > > My concern is that I would LOVE to do the flight down the > California coast at 2000-3000', just cruising along and > seeing the sights. Even 1000' some of the time. > But, with all the airspace and cities and KSFO's Bravo > and especially the LAX area as I go out to the island, > how practical is that idea? And, is the weather this > coming time of year usually conducive to such a flight? > I can do it another time if I'm picking a bad time for > such a trip. > > Any good advice on how to flight plan that one? It's > all foreign territory to me. Florida is busy too, but > not mountainous, so it's easier. > > -- > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD > do not archive > > > >


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    Time: 05:50:47 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: California coast via RV10?
    From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
    Unfortunately, the restaurant at Sedona is closed, pending replacement of the old building with something in the terminal. Would be fantastic if you can schedule to make Copperstate. Montgomery Field in San Diego is fine. If you want to land below sea level, there is Imperial Valley on the way from the Coast to Arizona. On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 1:19 AM, woxofswa <woxof@aol.com> wrote: > > Tim, > > Sedona is very nice. Great restaurant and a decent hotel a short walk from > the ramp. > > Plan it during Copperstate and stop by the RV10 nest. > > -------- > Myron Nelson > Mesa, AZ > Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse in progress > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313560#313560 > >


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    Time: 05:52:27 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: California coast via RV10?
    From: "rv10flyer" <wayne.gillispie@yahoo.com>
    Good information for us low time pilots. Keep it coming! -------- Wayne Gillispie, A&amp;P 5/93, PPC 10/08 Grayson, KY Bldr# 40983 Ord complete kit 8/24/09; DB Sch del 11/20/09 Emp 12/01/09-3/14/10 332 hrs Wings 3/14/10-9/18/10 360 hrs Fuselage 9/21/10- Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313576#313576


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    Time: 06:52:32 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: California coast via RV10?
    I agree, thanks to all of the good replies, both on and off-list. It sounds like it should be no problem at all. A few have mentioned the off-airport landing possibilities (very few) along the coast, and yeah, that does make a person nervous, but at the same time it's done every day and a once-in-a-lifetime flight for me probably, so we'll probably do it if we can. We'll have the same life jackets used for the Bahamas trip. The kids will be along, and they'll love the view. It's a vacation but we'll be moving along at a good clip because we've got many thousands of miles to cover in one week. We may have one or two planes coming with us for portions of the time too. I don't plan to do copperstate, as this one we'll be real pressed for time to cover the miles and stops, and this one is about family vacation less than pilot vacation. ;) So far we have extreme interest from the kids in a whale watching trip, so I have to figure out which area would be best to do that, since we'll basically cover most of the US West coast. I'd hope there was somewhere where there would be *guaranteed* whale encounter trips. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive On 9/24/2010 7:49 AM, rv10flyer wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "rv10flyer"<wayne.gillispie@yahoo.com> > > Good information for us low time pilots. Keep it coming! > > -------- > Wayne Gillispie, A&amp;P 5/93, PPC 10/08 > Grayson, KY Bldr# 40983 > Ord complete kit 8/24/09; DB Sch del 11/20/09 > Emp 12/01/09-3/14/10 332 hrs > Wings 3/14/10-9/18/10 360 hrs > Fuselage 9/21/10- >


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    Time: 07:35:13 AM PST US
    From: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: iPad Mount update


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    Time: 07:36:58 AM PST US
    From: John Gonzalez <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: California coast via RV10?
    Another thing to consider during this time of years is indeed the fog most likely will be less=2C but there is also the chance for the Santa Ana wind conditions which are present in the mid to southern portion of the state. T he winds can be very strong and will not make for nice flying. These winds become more likely late in September=2C and get more and more likely throu gh January. On another note=2C might I recommend Camarillo airport or Oxnard airport an d a whale watching trip form Ventura harbor.. Those Channel Islands are nic er than Catalina=2C but sounds like you would like to land at the famous Ca talina airport=2C which has plenty of wrecked airplanes at the end of the f ield. Catalina Island has more touristy stuff to do=2C the other islands ar e remote and prettier because they are away from Los Angeles. Just stuff to look at.


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    Time: 08:06:31 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: iPad Mount update
    From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
    Hey good buddy, got yor ears on? You is shootin' blanks. On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> wrote: > >


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    Time: 08:13:15 AM PST US
    From: "Masys, Daniel R" <dan.masys@vanderbilt.edu>
    Subject: California coast via RV10?
    > > Any good advice on how to flight plan that one? It's > > all foreign territory to me. Florida is busy too, but > > not mountainous, so it's easier. > > > > -- > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD > > do not archive Since I am now using my RV-10 from time to time to do the 1750nm commute between Nashville and the Olympic Peninsula in Washington, and flew the route between San Diego and the Pacific Northwest many times, I would add the following to the good information already posted. 1. In an RV-10 with you as a current instrument rated pilot, you're gonna have big fun and tons of options. It is a glorious route in good weather, and even with the coastal stratus, if temps are not conducive to icing, you generally only have to hop over a few miles inland along the central coast to get to a clear path. More coastal mountains north of San Francisco but still lots of options. Just call for flight following wherever you are, and you'll generally have very helpful controllers. If they are busy and it's getting a little scuzzy, just land inland or air-file IFR and get in the system. 2. We flew the route from Oakland to Victoria BC along the coast in one day when there was a big high pressure system over the region, doing just what you describe: 2500 feet following the coastline. Things not to miss, north to south: a. Swing by Mount St. Helens. You will be shocked on the north side to see the moonscape with trees flattened like toothpicks for miles, now 30 years after the event. (Don't get spooked by the steam still rising from the crater!). b. Take a jog inland to McMinnville OR to see the Evergreen Aviation Museum (home of Spruce Goose) c. There is a great string of picturesque lighthouses along the Oregon Coast, also Crescent City and Point Reyes. d. The Bay tour over the Golden Gate bridge, as others have mentioned e. Fly by the San Simeon castle, just north of Morro Bay and San Luis Obispo. f. After you make the carrier-style landing at Catalina Island, get a buffalo burger at the restaurant on the airport. If more time available, take the shuttle bus down to Avalon and walk around the town or get one of the little rental surreys and do the whole tour of the town and the Wrigley botanical gardens. g. Headed back over to the mainland, the most GA friendly airport in the San Diego area is Gillespie (KSEE in El Cajon, about 20 miles inland with lots of experimentals based there) but Montgomery Field (KMYF) is fine too, and much closer to downtown attractions like the zoo, the Midway aircraft carrier museum and harbor walk-around. Enjoy! -Dan Masys RV-10 N104LD 402 hrs RV-12 N122LD firewall forward


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    Time: 08:14:04 AM PST US
    From: "Pascal" <rv10builder@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: California coast via RV10?
    Keep in mind, there is a landing fee at Catalina, I think I heard it was $15-20, the airport is not near Avalon (main town) so you need a taxi to get there and I hear that is quite expensive as well. Oh and expect the trip down and up the hill to/from town to the airport to take a fair amount of time.. if you have 1/2 a day minimum this will work for you. This is the same experience as Sedona, now that I think about it. Pascal From: John Gonzalez Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 7:26 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: California coast via RV10? Another thing to consider during this time of years is indeed the fog most likely will be less, but there is also the chance for the Santa Ana wind conditions which are present in the mid to southern portion of the state. The winds can be very strong and will not make for nice flying. These winds become more likely late in September, and get more and more likely through January. On another note, might I recommend Camarillo airport or Oxnard airport and a whale watching trip form Ventura harbor.. Those Channel Islands are nicer than Catalina, but sounds like you would like to land at the famous Catalina airport, which has plenty of wrecked airplanes at the end of the field. Catalina Island has more touristy stuff to do, the other islands are remote and prettier because they are away from Los Angeles. Just stuff to look at.


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    Time: 08:28:10 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: iPad Mount update
    He's got something funky with his email program. I am trying to pull it apart now and see if there is an attachment to view. But here is the text I extracted. I noticed the message had size, but just wasn't displaying.... Tim <From Deems> Rob, Thanks for the update, I've been following a thread on VAF that is similar. I've flown about 40 hours with my Ipad, and have a pretty good feel for how I use it (VFR). Today, I spent 30 + minutes in the cockpit trying to identify the 'optimum' mounting location. The Ram-Mount hardware is VERY impressive. It was hard to find a location that both provides excellent access, AND didn't interfere with another cockpit function. (I really like the way my panel is laid out and don't want to compromise it) I came to the conclusion that for me, a hard mount isn't the best bet. I've got moving map gps/efis on the panel with approaches, etc. I'm only flying the plane VFR now, so the main use for me is: Pre-flight planning (means that it's got to be easily removable). I'm not keen about having the 'empty mounting gear Electronic POH _ I've got options on Primary and backup EFIS for checklists, but I've converting my POH to a pdf, that I have on the IPAD Sectional scanning - My EFIS only zooms out to 200 miles, and it doesn't provide the ability to 'scroll' around and see what the surrounding landscape holds Flight Guide Replacement Airport info - With the changes to pricing for the hard copy, it's really convenient to have it all in the IPAD. So most of my usage is intermittent while in flight. I like being able to grab the IPAD and do whatever I need to do, and then put it out ot the way. When I need it it's really convenient to have visible with a hands free view. (my wife is getting tired of 'here, hold this'). I have a center console, that is now pretty empty , with all of the charts, POH, and Flight Guide removed. So I think the solution for me, is to fabricate a kneeboard-holder, that serves as a "platform" where I can set/rest the Ipad when I need the information/function handy, (e.g. airport/rwy data landing & TO) and my hands free. I'll make it with an angle that allows for best viewing /access, but I'll probably put some 'non-skid' material on the back of it, and the knee-pad so that it can be easily rotated and stored in the center console when its just in the way. Deems On 9/24/2010 10:03 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > Hey good buddy, got yor ears on? You is shootin' blanks. > > On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net > <mailto:deemsdavis@cox.net>> wrote: > > > * > > > *


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    Time: 08:42:03 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: iPad Mount update
    After reading Deems's email I have to say that I didn't want to even reply before, because I don't want to knock anyones install, but I personally feel that I love my panel layout. I wouldn't WANT an ipad on the panel. I think it would be a pain in the butt to use in flight on the panel and I think even hard mounted it would be a pain in the butt in turbulence when you need it. I think a mount might be nice as a holder, but for in flight USE I think just hand-holding is great. It's just a reference device....the panel holds all the real navigation gear. I do like holding it, and like being able to hand it to the wife or kids, and if I were going to mount it anywhere, it would be as a kneeboard. Although as a kneeboard it's a little large. But, personally I feel it's far more important to have a good place to handily STOW it than it would be to mount it. Other than that, it's the ideal cockpit sized device. On the panel though I think it would really suck in bumps.....there are days I can't even push the buttons on my radios or turn a knob without my hand bouncing around hitting the wrong thing....a touchscreen would be miserable. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive On 9/24/2010 10:03 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > Hey good buddy, got yor ears on? You is shootin' blanks. > > On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net > <mailto:deemsdavis@cox.net>> wrote: >


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    Time: 08:43:37 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: California coast via RV10?
    :) In the scope of flying the approximately 5000 round trip statute miles that the trip will be, I guess $20 is swallowable. :) I think for Catalina Island while I wouldn't mind touring the island for a while, that I'll be happy to just land and eat and turn around. To me, Catalina Island would be about the view, the airport, and the flying experience. Then I'll have to get back to things the kids would prefer. ;) You guys have been great at your tips. Thanks to Dan Masys, as I hadn't even though about Mt. St. Helens, and San Simeon Castle. Lots of near things to see. Glad I did McMinnville already or I'd never have time to see what I want on this trip! Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive On 9/24/2010 10:11 AM, Pascal wrote: > Keep in mind, there is a landing fee at Catalina, I think I heard it was > $15-20, the airport is not near Avalon (main town) so you need a taxi to > get there and I hear that is quite expensive as well. > Oh and expect the trip down and up the hill to/from town to the airport > to take a fair amount of time.. if you have 1/2 a day minimum this will > work for you. > This is the same experience as Sedona, now that I think about it. > Pascal >


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    Time: 08:44:14 AM PST US
    From: Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: iPad Mount update
    Thanks Tim, Deems, If you are going to use a "kneeboard", Ram Mount has the solution of the iPad. Here it is: On Sep 24, 2010, at 11:21 AM, Tim Olson wrote: > > He's got something funky with his email program. I am > trying to pull it apart now and see if there is an attachment > to view. But here is the text I extracted. I noticed the message > had size, but just wasn't displaying.... > Tim > > <=46rom Deems> > > Rob, Thanks for the update, I've been following a thread on VAF that > is similar. I've flown about 40 hours with my Ipad, and have a pretty > good feel for how I use it (VFR). Today, I spent 30 + minutes in the > cockpit trying to identify the 'optimum' mounting location. The > Ram-Mount hardware is VERY impressive. > > It was hard to find a location that both provides excellent access, AND > didn't interfere with another cockpit function. (I really like the way > my panel is laid out and don't want to compromise it) I came to the > conclusion that for me, a hard mount isn't the best bet. I've got moving > map gps/efis on the panel with approaches, etc. I'm only flying the > plane VFR now, so the main use for me is: > > Pre-flight planning (means that it's got to be easily removable). I'm > not keen about having the 'empty mounting gear > Electronic POH _ I've got options on Primary and backup EFIS for > checklists, but I've converting my POH to a pdf, that I have on the IPAD > Sectional scanning - My EFIS only zooms out to 200 miles, and it doesn't > provide the ability to 'scroll' around and see what the surrounding > landscape holds > Flight Guide Replacement Airport info - With the changes to pricing for > the hard copy, it's really convenient to have it all in the IPAD. > > So most of my usage is intermittent while in flight. I like being able > to grab the IPAD and do whatever I need to do, and then put it out ot > the way. When I need it it's really convenient to have visible with a > hands free view. (my wife is getting tired of 'here, hold this'). I > have a center console, that is now pretty empty , with all of the > charts, POH, and Flight Guide removed. So I think the solution for me, > is to fabricate a kneeboard-holder, that serves as a "platform" where I > can set/rest the Ipad when I need the information/function handy, (e.g. > airport/rwy data landing & TO) and my hands free. I'll make it with an > angle that allows for best viewing /access, but I'll probably put some > 'non-skid' material on the back of it, and the knee-pad so that it can > be easily rotated and stored in the center console when its just in the way. > > Deems > > > > On 9/24/2010 10:03 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote: >> Hey good buddy, got yor ears on? You is shootin' blanks. >> >> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net >> <mailto:deemsdavis@cox.net>> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> * >> >> >> * > > > >


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    Time: 08:45:52 AM PST US
    From: Robin Marks <Robin@PaintTheWeb.com>
    Subject: Re: California coast via RV10?
    Tim, I may still be sun bathing around that time, that is as close to a whale watching guarantee as one can get! BTW the Monterey Bay Aquarium is pretty fantastic if you are stopping there. I know, I know not enough time. Robin Do Not Archive


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    Time: 08:48:51 AM PST US
    From: Sean Stephens <sean@stephensville.com>
    Subject: Blank Messages (was: iPad Mount update)
    I noticed something similar that started just recently with the Matronics lists. Not sure if Matt changed anything recently, but... I use Thunderbird (on a Mac) and had to set my account to always use plain text when sending emails to the matronics.com domain or they would just show up as blank. I never had to do this until about a month ago. Maybe Matt could chime in with any suggestions. -Sean On 9/24/10 10:21 AM, Tim Olson wrote: > > He's got something funky with his email program. I am > trying to pull it apart now and see if there is an attachment > to view. But here is the text I extracted. I noticed the message > had size, but just wasn't displaying.... > Tim >


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    Time: 08:57:14 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: iPad Mount update
    Cool, I've seen one other ipad kneeboard I think but this one looks really nice. Rob, if you're gonna mount your iPad as a hard mount, I think that location you have now, on the tunnel right by your side, is about as ideal of a place as you'll find. At least in that location you can rest your hand on it while you tap and move things, and it's in good view. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive On 9/24/2010 10:41 AM, Rob Kermanj wrote: > Thanks Tim, > > Deems, If you are going to use a "kneeboard", Ram Mount has the solution of the iPad. > > Here it is: > >


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    Time: 08:59:19 AM PST US
    From: Sean Stephens <sean@stephensville.com>
    Subject: Re: iPad Mount update
    I think this has already been linked before. It seems a bit pricey, but it *is* an "aviation" product. :) http://www.forpilotsonly.com/ipad.htm -Sean On 9/24/10 10:26 AM, Tim Olson wrote: > > After reading Deems's email I have to say that I didn't > want to even reply before, because I don't want to knock > anyones install, but I personally feel that I love > my panel layout. I wouldn't WANT an ipad on the panel. > I think it would be a pain in the butt to use in flight > on the panel and I think even hard mounted it would be > a pain in the butt in turbulence when you need it. > I think a mount might be nice as a holder, but for in > flight USE I think just hand-holding is great. It's > just a reference device....the panel holds all the real > navigation gear. > > I do like holding it, and like being able to hand it > to the wife or kids, and if I were going to mount it > anywhere, it would be as a kneeboard. Although as > a kneeboard it's a little large. But, personally I > feel it's far more important to have a good place to > handily STOW it than it would be to mount it. > Other than that, it's the ideal cockpit sized device. > On the panel though I think it would really suck > in bumps.....there are days I can't even push the > buttons on my radios or turn a knob without > my hand bouncing around hitting the wrong thing....a > touchscreen would be miserable. > > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD > do not archive > > > On 9/24/2010 10:03 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote: >> Hey good buddy, got yor ears on? You is shootin' blanks. >> >> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net >> <mailto:deemsdavis@cox.net>> wrote: >> > >


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    Time: 09:03:00 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Blank Messages (was: iPad Mount update)
    Actually, to be a friendly email person, it's a good idea to use only text email anyway, when possible. In thunderbird you can still compose an HTML email if you hold SHIFT while you click "write" for a new email. The reason is, if you send HTML email, in most people's cases, the HTML email takes up more space than a text email does, but it gets worse, it also sends a text version of it and the recipient's viewer chooses which one to display. So now you're increasing each message size by 2X just because you are sending HTML emails. Things like background images to emails, and stuff like that, are just a waste of space. Also, it's a little harder to embed malicious scripts into text-only emails. So I set that as my default for all emails, and only send HTML when there is good reason. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive On 9/24/2010 10:45 AM, Sean Stephens wrote: > > I noticed something similar that started just recently with the > Matronics lists. Not sure if Matt changed anything recently, but... > > I use Thunderbird (on a Mac) and had to set my account to always use > plain text when sending emails to the matronics.com domain or they would > just show up as blank. I never had to do this until about a month ago. > Maybe Matt could chime in with any suggestions. > > -Sean >


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    Time: 09:06:59 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: iPad Mount update
    From: Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com>
    I agree. It is located where we traditionally have our knee boards. I have found one thing that I do not like; if I leave the iPad in the cockpit turned on, it will shut down due to high temps in Florida and it takes about 10 min. or so to power back up. I will see you at Copper State Tim. do not archive Rob On Sep 24, 2010, at 11:54 AM, Tim Olson wrote: > > Cool, I've seen one other ipad kneeboard I think but this one > looks really nice. > > Rob, if you're gonna mount your iPad as a hard mount, > I think that location you have now, on the tunnel > right by your side, is about as ideal of a place > as you'll find. At least in that location you can > rest your hand on it while you tap and move things, > and it's in good view. > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD > do not archive > > > On 9/24/2010 10:41 AM, Rob Kermanj wrote: >> Thanks Tim, >> >> Deems, If you are going to use a "kneeboard", Ram Mount has the solution of the iPad. >> >> Here it is: >> >> > > > >


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    Time: 09:32:26 AM PST US
    From: Robin Marks <Robin@PaintTheWeb.com>
    Subject: iPad Mount update
    I was at the Apple store yesterday and saw a cool iPad accessory that converts the iPad to a back of the head rest mounted display (straps around the headrest). An obvious choice for car rides or rear pax video entertainment in a -10. Plus a good place to store it. Out of the way but handy. Robin -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 8:26 AM Subject: Re: Fwd: RV10-List: iPad Mount update After reading Deems's email I have to say that I didn't want to even reply before, because I don't want to knock anyones install, but I personally feel that I love my panel layout. I wouldn't WANT an ipad on the panel. I think it would be a pain in the butt to use in flight on the panel and I think even hard mounted it would be a pain in the butt in turbulence when you need it. I think a mount might be nice as a holder, but for in flight USE I think just hand-holding is great. It's just a reference device....the panel holds all the real navigation gear. I do like holding it, and like being able to hand it to the wife or kids, and if I were going to mount it anywhere, it would be as a kneeboard. Although as a kneeboard it's a little large. But, personally I feel it's far more important to have a good place to handily STOW it than it would be to mount it. Other than that, it's the ideal cockpit sized device. On the panel though I think it would really suck in bumps.....there are days I can't even push the buttons on my radios or turn a knob without my hand bouncing around hitting the wrong thing....a touchscreen would be miserable. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive On 9/24/2010 10:03 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote: > Hey good buddy, got yor ears on? You is shootin' blanks. > > On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net > <mailto:deemsdavis@cox.net>> wrote: >


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    Time: 09:46:25 AM PST US
    From: Jeff Carpenter <jeff@westcottpress.com>
    Subject: Re: California coast via RV10?
    Hi Tim, I'm not a high time pilot, and with all the time I spend building these days I'm not getting much time in at all of late, but the time I do have is in Southern California, up the coast and out East to Arizona. Considering that, I can offer the following bits of info: The Catalina runway is tricky, at best. FBO's around here insist on a check ride with an instructor before they'll let you take their planes there on your own. I have not made the trip, but my understanding is that the runway is shaped like an inverted "V". Visually, it seems to end well before it actually does end. But, when it does end, it ends abruptly on the edge of a cliff. The preponderance of accidents there are the result of the unnecessarily aborted landings that that site picture creates. Catalina is a great spot for SCUBA diving... though the water is cold. Fog can roll in quickly off the ocean at the end of the day... and I mean quickly. If you're cruising down the coast in the late afternoon, have inland alternates planned because the airports beneath you can go 0/0 before you know it. There is a VFR corridor over LAX that's easy to pass through and intended for the coastal cruise you're planning. Pay attention to the jump zones around San Diego and glider areas in the high desert above LA (in case the fog bumps you inland). They are active. All that having been said, I've driven the entire West Coast from San Diego to Alaska and you are in for a treat. It is unbelievably beautiful and you will want to come back for more. If you need hangar space, I've got an empty one at Chino that you are welcome to use. Jeff Carpenter 40304 On Sep 23, 2010, at 9:17 PM, Tim Olson wrote: > > I'd like to find out the feasibility of a flight, from those > who live out on the far West...near the coast. > > I'm contemplating a flight that goes all the way from > Washington State to San Diego, with a couple of quick > stops on the way. I want to stop for a quick trip out to > Catalina island, since that's one of those places you > read about all the time, but I rarely will ever get to > that part of the country. After a short stop at Catalina > island it would be back to the mainland maybe by San Diego. > Not sure if I'd even stay the night there...seems that > it's hard to find a real regular small GA airport in those > parts. But on to the Sedona area. > > My concern is that I would LOVE to do the flight down the > California coast at 2000-3000', just cruising along and > seeing the sights. Even 1000' some of the time. > But, with all the airspace and cities and KSFO's Bravo > and especially the LAX area as I go out to the island, > how practical is that idea? And, is the weather this > coming time of year usually conducive to such a flight? > I can do it another time if I'm picking a bad time for > such a trip. > > Any good advice on how to flight plan that one? It's > all foreign territory to me. Florida is busy too, but > not mountainous, so it's easier. > > -- > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD > do not archive > >


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    Time: 10:04:48 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Re: Blank Messages (was: iPad Mount update)
    I haven't changed anything on the input message processing in quite a while. As has been pointed out, make sure to configure the email client to send "plain-text" only. If the messages are showing up blank, the lack of a legitimate plain-text MIME section is almost always the cause. Matt Dralle Matronics List Admin At 08:45 AM 9/24/2010 Friday, you wrote: > > I noticed something similar that started just recently with the Matronics lists. Not sure if Matt changed anything recently, but... > >I use Thunderbird (on a Mac) and had to set my account to always use plain text when sending emails to the matronics.com domain or they would just show up as blank. I never had to do this until about a month ago. >Maybe Matt could chime in with any suggestions. > >-Sean > >On 9/24/10 10:21 AM, Tim Olson wrote: >> >>He's got something funky with his email program. I am >>trying to pull it apart now and see if there is an attachment >>to view. But here is the text I extracted. I noticed the message >>had size, but just wasn't displaying.... >>Tim - Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel Status: 95+ Hours TTSN - Enjoying Every Minute...


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    Time: 10:45:24 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: iPad Mount update
    Now that is a NEED for me! I'll have to quick find out about that and order one up for this trip! Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive On 9/24/2010 11:25 AM, Robin Marks wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: Robin Marks<Robin@painttheweb.com> > > I was at the Apple store yesterday and saw a cool iPad accessory that > converts the iPad to a back of the head rest mounted display (straps > around the headrest). An obvious choice for car rides or rear pax video > entertainment in a -10. Plus a good place to store it. Out of the way but > handy. > > Robin > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson > Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 8:26 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Fwd: RV10-List: iPad Mount update > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson<Tim@myrv10.com> > > After reading Deems's email I have to say that I didn't > want to even reply before, because I don't want to knock > anyones install, but I personally feel that I love > my panel layout. I wouldn't WANT an ipad on the panel. > I think it would be a pain in the butt to use in flight > on the panel and I think even hard mounted it would be > a pain in the butt in turbulence when you need it. > I think a mount might be nice as a holder, but for in > flight USE I think just hand-holding is great. It's > just a reference device....the panel holds all the real > navigation gear. > > I do like holding it, and like being able to hand it > to the wife or kids, and if I were going to mount it > anywhere, it would be as a kneeboard. Although as > a kneeboard it's a little large. But, personally I > feel it's far more important to have a good place to > handily STOW it than it would be to mount it. > Other than that, it's the ideal cockpit sized device. > On the panel though I think it would really suck > in bumps.....there are days I can't even push the > buttons on my radios or turn a knob without > my hand bouncing around hitting the wrong thing....a > touchscreen would be miserable. > > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD > do not archive > > > On 9/24/2010 10:03 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote: >> Hey good buddy, got yor ears on? You is shootin' blanks. >> >> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Deems Davis<deemsdavis@cox.net >> <mailto:deemsdavis@cox.net>> wrote: >> > >


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    Time: 11:09:04 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: iPad Mount update
    Was it this one by chance? http://www.zoogue.com/ Looks like they're sold out right now, but after Oct 14th they are going to have more. Some insane turkey on eBay marked them up 4X, too....nice... http://cgi.ebay.com/IPAD-CASE-CAR-Headrest-mount-ZooGue-Smart-Case-seat-/110563554818?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19be19f602 How do people think they'll fool someone that way? Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive On 9/24/2010 11:25 AM, Robin Marks wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: Robin Marks<Robin@painttheweb.com> > > I was at the Apple store yesterday and saw a cool iPad accessory that > converts the iPad to a back of the head rest mounted display (straps > around the headrest). An obvious choice for car rides or rear pax video > entertainment in a -10. Plus a good place to store it. Out of the way but > handy. > > Robin > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson > Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 8:26 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Fwd: RV10-List: iPad Mount update > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson<Tim@myrv10.com> > > After reading Deems's email I have to say that I didn't > want to even reply before, because I don't want to knock > anyones install, but I personally feel that I love > my panel layout. I wouldn't WANT an ipad on the panel. > I think it would be a pain in the butt to use in flight > on the panel and I think even hard mounted it would be > a pain in the butt in turbulence when you need it. > I think a mount might be nice as a holder, but for in > flight USE I think just hand-holding is great. It's > just a reference device....the panel holds all the real > navigation gear. > > I do like holding it, and like being able to hand it > to the wife or kids, and if I were going to mount it > anywhere, it would be as a kneeboard. Although as > a kneeboard it's a little large. But, personally I > feel it's far more important to have a good place to > handily STOW it than it would be to mount it. > Other than that, it's the ideal cockpit sized device. > On the panel though I think it would really suck > in bumps.....there are days I can't even push the > buttons on my radios or turn a knob without > my hand bouncing around hitting the wrong thing....a > touchscreen would be miserable. > > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD > do not archive > > > On 9/24/2010 10:03 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote: >> Hey good buddy, got yor ears on? You is shootin' blanks. >> >> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Deems Davis<deemsdavis@cox.net >> <mailto:deemsdavis@cox.net>> wrote: >> > >


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    Time: 12:05:21 PM PST US
    From: Robin Marks <Robin@PaintTheWeb.com>
    Subject: iPad Mount update
    I have seen the Zoogue. It is a bit bulkier than I like but it does much more than the one I saw because it's a "convertible" much like the official apple case but I was not a fan of the Velcro portion. The one I saw is from Griffin and it is a dedicated headrest unit with a place to store headsets etc.. $40.00 (I have posted one of these on eBay for $175 if interested J) http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/cinemaseat-ipad [image: Cinemaseat_ipad-1] [image: Cinemaseat_ipad-1] Robin -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 11:06 AM Subject: Re: Fwd: RV10-List: iPad Mount update Was it this one by chance? http://www.zoogue.com/ Looks like they're sold out right now, but after Oct 14th they are going to have more. Some insane turkey on eBay marked them up 4X, too....nice... http://cgi.ebay.com/IPAD-CASE-CAR-Headrest-mount-ZooGue-Smart-Case-seat-/110563554818?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19be19f602 How do people think they'll fool someone that way? Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive On 9/24/2010 11:25 AM, Robin Marks wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: Robin Marks<Robin@painttheweb.com> > > I was at the Apple store yesterday and saw a cool iPad accessory that > converts the iPad to a back of the head rest mounted display (straps > around the headrest). An obvious choice for car rides or rear pax video > entertainment in a -10. Plus a good place to store it. Out of the way but > handy. > > Robin > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson > Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 8:26 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Fwd: RV10-List: iPad Mount update > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson<Tim@myrv10.com> > > After reading Deems's email I have to say that I didn't > want to even reply before, because I don't want to knock > anyones install, but I personally feel that I love > my panel layout. I wouldn't WANT an ipad on the panel. > I think it would be a pain in the butt to use in flight > on the panel and I think even hard mounted it would be > a pain in the butt in turbulence when you need it. > I think a mount might be nice as a holder, but for in > flight USE I think just hand-holding is great. It's > just a reference device....the panel holds all the real > navigation gear. > > I do like holding it, and like being able to hand it > to the wife or kids, and if I were going to mount it > anywhere, it would be as a kneeboard. Although as > a kneeboard it's a little large. But, personally I > feel it's far more important to have a good place to > handily STOW it than it would be to mount it. > Other than that, it's the ideal cockpit sized device. > On the panel though I think it would really suck > in bumps.....there are days I can't even push the > buttons on my radios or turn a knob without > my hand bouncing around hitting the wrong thing....a > touchscreen would be miserable. > > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD > do not archive > > > On 9/24/2010 10:03 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote: >> Hey good buddy, got yor ears on? You is shootin' blanks. >> >> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Deems Davis<deemsdavis@cox.net >> <mailto:deemsdavis@cox.net>> wrote: >> > > > > >


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    Time: 04:34:21 PM PST US
    From: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@roadrunner.com>
    Subject: Aviation Resources On The Web
    I'm doing a presentation to our EAA Chapter on Aviation Resources on the Internet and could use a little help. Is anyone willing to share what their 3 or 4 favorite sites are? Probably should do this off list. Thanks, Albert Gardner N991RV Yuma, AZ


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    Time: 06:58:28 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Aviation Resources On The Web
    From: "Bob Turner" <bobturner@alum.rpi.edu>
    airnav.com for fuel prices, FBO services aviationweather.gov for weather, including icing forecasts that are more realistic than what you get from FSS/DUAT. -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313671#313671


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    Time: 07:41:22 PM PST US
    From: "Pascal" <rv10builder@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Aviation Resources On The Web
    The AOPA ASF - http://www.aopa.org/asf/ AOPA online including flight planning-http://www.aopa.org/ EAA homebuilders site- http://www.eaavideo.org/channel.aspx?ch=ch_hints -------------------------------------------------- From: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@roadrunner.com> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 4:30 PM Subject: RV10-List: Aviation Resources On The Web > > I'm doing a presentation to our EAA Chapter on Aviation Resources on the > Internet and could use a little help. Is anyone willing to share what > their > 3 or 4 favorite sites are? Probably should do this off list. > Thanks, > Albert Gardner > N991RV > Yuma, AZ > > >


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    Time: 07:50:25 PM PST US
    From: "John Melchert" <pilotmelch@omnav.com>
    Subject: Aviation Resources On The Web
    Here's my top hits: In addition to http://aviationweather.gov and http://airnav.com, FlightCentral (http://www.flightcentral.net/) for airport, weather and basic flight planning FlightAware (http://flightaware.com/) to track IFR flights I've made and for family and friends to track while I'm enroute LiveATC (http://www.liveatc.net/feedmap/feedmap.html) to listen in on ATC while at my desk Airsports Wx (http://www.usairnet.com/cgi-bin/launch/code.cgi?sta=KFCM&model=avn&state=MN &Submit=Get+Forecast) Visual weather trends from NWS weather data for the next couple + days Oshkosh365 (http://www.oshkosh365.org/) need I say more? FAA NOTAM Retrieval (https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWeb/) FAA N-Number Registry and other databases (http://registry.faa.gov/) 100 Dollar Hamburger (http://www.100dollarhamburger.com/) John Melchert N316PT RV-10 (building, QB fuse) Eden Prairie, MN -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Albert Gardner Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 6:30 PM Subject: RV10-List: Aviation Resources On The Web I'm doing a presentation to our EAA Chapter on Aviation Resources on the Internet and could use a little help. Is anyone willing to share what their 3 or 4 favorite sites are? Probably should do this off list. Thanks, Albert Gardner N991RV Yuma, AZ




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