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1. 06:42 AM - Re: Re: Wisconsin ADS-B Rollout (Tim Olson)
2. 08:56 AM - Re: Building again.... question (John J)
3. 11:21 AM - overhead console (rwwende)
4. 11:42 AM - Re: overhead console (Strasnuts)
5. 12:15 PM - Re: overhead console (Robin Marks)
6. 12:27 PM - Re: overhead console (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
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| Subject: | Re: Wisconsin ADS-B Rollout |
The 330 provides more flexibility and capability for panel
installations, due to it's variety of ports. It has 4 ARINC
Ports and can act as an ARINC concentrator, while the 327
has none. It also has 2 complete pairs of serial
ports, with 2 in's and 2 out's. The 327 only has one
In/Out pair, and then an additional IN. Some of these things
may or may not matter to someone building a panel, depending
on their installation. Or, it may not initially matter, but
may later be helpful. Also, some of the ports on the
transponders can only support certain data messages. For
instance, Garmin's REMOTE format doesn't contain Pressure
altitude. But, you can get that out from a 330 via ARINC,
as it IS sent via the GARMIN and GARMIN+TIS format. And like
I mentioned, some of these things may not matter to someone
today, but may matter later. I feed the NavWorx it's PALT
via the ARINC output from the 330. It was real convenient
in my installation, and will probably be that way permanently.
It also was what made composite TIS possible for me. There
are a variety of things that will you'll see changing as
ADS-B rolls out, and having some of the capabilities may help
people with easier integrations of that gear.
Additionally, the GTX330 would be upgradeable to 1090ES if
some day you find yourself wanting to go that route, so while
UAT's are a great way for us to go, it opens the door to
that possibility too.
In my install, the GTX330 is the only TIS device that is
connected to my GNS480, because the data format used by
the Chelton is different than what the 480 would use, so
I can only choose one. But, even without Composite TIS,
I'll still have ModeS TIS on the 480...and ADS-B on
the Chelton.
As as aside, the GTX327 and GTX330 are remote-operable via
some systems, and you'll likely find this to be a very
valuable asset in the future too. More on that some day.
Regarding the "tell the FAA who you are at all times" theme,
I don't think privacy is something that anyone needs bother
to talk about. Since 2001, the powers in charge in the
country long since wiped out all privacy, and it's been
happening from both parties, and in both that and the
present administration. The fact is, with Mode S, they
have your ICAO Code that is tied to your N-Number. When
you look up your aircraft registration, the code is shown
on the FAA site. Well, that same ICAO code is required
to be broacast via ADS-B. So, to meet the mandate, you
are, unless you want to be severely restricted in flight
area, going to be broadcasting your position and
identification to the government....with either system.
And both will broadcast your altitude. So will many people's
APRS systems broadcast your position, and also your ELT's
likely will. So from an aviation perspective, there is
no privacy, and they will always know where you are.
They'll also know who you email, what you say, who you
text, who you connect with via blackberry, you location
via your cellphone signal, and pretty much everything else
they want to know. The privacy issue while flying doesn't
bother me. While not flying, I think we went so far off
the cliff that privacy already died.
Needless to say, the GTX330 is still going to be a great
choice for a lot of builders. The 327 is a good
transponder but may require a build put more time
and thought into how they're going to get things to
talk the language they need to the other systems.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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On 9/27/2010 7:56 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
> Hmm, what does the 330 do by ARINC that your ADS-B receiver would not
> do? Both would supply TIS. What else does Mode S do for you besides tell
> the FAA who you are at all times?
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> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 8:11 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com
> <mailto:Tim@myrv10.com>> wrote:
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> <mailto:Tim@myrv10.com>>
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> Nope, the 330 still offers more, like ARINC, that I am in need of.
> Plus it still does mode s to my gns480.
> Tim
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| Subject: | Building again.... question |
Thanks, guys, I'll go with these numbers. Thanks also for the web site
compliments. Look for a redesign in the next month or so.
John J
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Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Building again.... question
Tail kits were up to 41108 about a month ago.
Bob
From: Pascal [mailto:rv10builder@verizon.net]
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 01:56 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Building again.... question
Vans website shows:
RV-10 326 as of September 27th.
agree that John Cox will have the actual number however.
From: Kelly McMullen <mailto:apilot2@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Building again.... question
Mssr Cox probably has the best count. Last I recall it was something
over 1000 sold and somewhere around 250+ flying.
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 3:35 PM, John J <n212pj@gmail.com> wrote:
I've started building again, and I want to update my website. So, a
question. Anyone know how many kits we're up to and how many completed?
John J
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| Subject: | overhead console |
Any one know if Accuracy Avionics is still in business and offering their overhead
console? Thanks Ross
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| Subject: | Re: overhead console |
You will want to get the AeroSport Overhead console. It is made of carbon fiber
and weighs a lot less than the old fiberglass overheads and is exceptionally
nice.
www.aerosportproducts.com
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| Subject: | overhead console |
No & no.... Ant that is actually good news for you.
Try Stein or direct from http://www.aerosportproducts.com/rv10overhead.htm
Lucky bastards! Sure wish the carbon fiber panels were available when we
were building.
Robin
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rwwende
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 11:18 AM
Subject: RV10-List: overhead console
Any one know if Accuracy Avionics is still in business and offering their
overhead console? Thanks Ross
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| Subject: | overhead console |
They are not - Tony (the owner) passed away. I'd recommend looking at these http://www.aerosportproducts.com/index.htm. They are lighter and much higher quality than those that Accuracy was providing.
Bob
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rwwende
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 1:18 PM
Subject: RV10-List: overhead console
Any one know if Accuracy Avionics is still in business and offering their overhead
console? Thanks Ross
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