---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 10/19/10: 25 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:33 AM - Successful Windscreen installation with Weld-On 10 (Michael Wellenzohn) 2. 08:45 AM - Re: Successful Windscreen installation with Weld-On 10 (AirMike) 3. 11:59 AM - Re: Re: Successful Windscreen installation with Weld-On 10 (Kevin Belue) 4. 12:16 PM - Re: Re: Successful Windscreen installation with Weld-On 10 (John Cumins) 5. 12:52 PM - Re: gas strut (gary) 6. 12:58 PM - Re: Re: Successful Windscreen installation with Weld-On 10 (Kevin Belue) 7. 01:47 PM - Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin (Sean Stephens) 8. 02:25 PM - Re: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin (Bob Leffler) 9. 02:25 PM - Re: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin (Jeff Carpenter) 10. 02:40 PM - Re: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin (Sean Stephens) 11. 03:25 PM - Re: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin (Bob Leffler) 12. 03:34 PM - Re: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin (Pascal) 13. 03:45 PM - Re: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin (Sean Stephens) 14. 03:54 PM - Re: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin (Carlos Hernandez) 15. 03:57 PM - Re: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin (effectus@rogers.com) 16. 04:01 PM - Re: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin (Jeff Carpenter) 17. 04:09 PM - Re: gas strut (Robert Brunkenhoefer) 18. 04:50 PM - Re: Re: fuel valve with position both (Jim Combs) 19. 04:50 PM - aileron trim (DLM) 20. 05:55 PM - Re: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin (Chris Colohan) 21. 06:00 PM - Re: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin (Deems Davis) 22. 06:28 PM - Re: fuel valve with position both (Bob Turner) 23. 08:52 PM - Re: Re: Successful Windscreen installation with Weld-On 10 (Bill Watson) 24. 09:40 PM - Re: gas strut (Lenny Iszak) 25. 10:52 PM - Re: RV-10 breaks record (Lenny Iszak) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:33:24 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Successful Windscreen installation with Weld-On 10 From: "Michael Wellenzohn" Hello, after having read so much about the Weld-On 10 stories and the crazing etc I took the step last weekend and installed the windshield with the help of two friends. I guess the result is very satisfying no crazing. I put a write up and photos on my website which describes what I did. I just wanted to share my experience. It was quite easy to do. And I hope that crazing will now develop in the future. Cheers Michael -------- RV-10 builder (interior,avionics, wiring) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316296#316296 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1035_580.jpg ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:45:47 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Successful Windscreen installation with Weld-On 10 From: "AirMike" Congratulations on the good installation and the fine "write-up". I think that you have established the protocol for window installation. If others can replicate your success it would be awesome. I had crazing at two locations with the suggested Vans technique. Fortunately they have not "run" in the one year that the plane has been flying. Thanks for sharing your experience in the finest Matronics tradition. -------- OSH '10 or Bust Q/B - finally done Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316330#316330 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:59:09 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Successful Windscreen installation with Weld-On 10 From: Kevin Belue I think that window installation with Weldon without crazing is the norm and has been done for several years. Good write up. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 19, 2010, at 10:42 AM, "AirMike" wrote: > > Congratulations on the good installation and the fine "write-up". I think that you have established the protocol for window installation. If others can replicate your success it would be awesome. I had crazing at two locations with the suggested Vans technique. Fortunately they have not "run" in the one year that the plane has been flying. Thanks for sharing your experience in the finest Matronics tradition. > > -------- > OSH '10 or Bust > Q/B - finally done > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316330#316330 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:16:37 PM PST US From: "John Cumins" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Successful Windscreen installation with Weld-On 10 Whats the link to the write up. John G. Cumins 40864 Wings -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Belue Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:46 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Successful Windscreen installation with Weld-On 10 I think that window installation with Weldon without crazing is the norm and has been done for several years. Good write up. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 19, 2010, at 10:42 AM, "AirMike" wrote: > > Congratulations on the good installation and the fine "write-up". I think that you have established the protocol for window installation. If others can replicate your success it would be awesome. I had crazing at two locations with the suggested Vans technique. Fortunately they have not "run" in the one year that the plane has been flying. Thanks for sharing your experience in the finest Matronics tradition. > > -------- > OSH '10 or Bust > Q/B - finally done > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316330#316330 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:52:51 PM PST US From: "gary" Subject: RE: RV10-List: gas strut So, after all the e-mails about replacement door struts, has anyone found one that replaces Van's heavy duty one? Where do you buy, what is the part #, and what is the price? Lots of possibilities were listed but no definite conclusions from someone who has actually done it and it worked as advertised. Gary Specketer _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DLM Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 2:51 PM Subject: RV10-List: gas strut Has anyone tried the 9416K15 or 4175T5 from McMaster? This seems to be the most comparable to the original struts supplied by Vans. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:58:12 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Successful Windscreen installation with Weld-On 10 From: Kevin Belue Here: http://www.wellenzohn.net/HB-YNN/Construction_Blog/Eintrage/2010/10/19_Gluei ng_the_windshield.html Sent from my iPhone On Oct 19, 2010, at 2:08 PM, "John Cumins" wrote: > > Whats the link to the write up. > > John G. Cumins > 40864 Wings > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Belue > Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:46 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Successful Windscreen installation with Weld-O n > 10 > > > I think that window installation with Weldon without crazing is the norm a nd > has been done for several years. Good write up. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 19, 2010, at 10:42 AM, "AirMike" wrote: > >> >> Congratulations on the good installation and the fine "write-up". I think > that you have established the protocol for window installation. If others > can replicate your success it would be awesome. I had crazing at two > locations with the suggested Vans technique. Fortunately they have not "ru n" > in the one year that the plane has been flying. Thanks for sharing your > experience in the finest Matronics tradition. >> >> -------- >> OSH '10 or Bust >> Q/B - finally done >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316330#316330 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:47:41 PM PST US From: Sean Stephens Subject: RV10-List: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin Working on wrapping up the dreaded Section 29 and have come across two areas where I am unable to get the skin rivets bucked. The attached pictures show the two areas. One is in the bottom right corner where the F-1041 meets F-1042 and the other is behind the F-1001J where the forward longeron attaches. What have others done in these two spots? Anyone have a special bucking bar recommendation or maybe the use of pop rivets in these areas? Thanks, -Sean #40303 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:25:00 PM PST US From: "Bob Leffler" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin My tungsten bar fit in those places without an issue. I know that wasn't the answer you were looking for. Bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 4:44 PM Subject: RV10-List: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin Working on wrapping up the dreaded Section 29 and have come across two areas where I am unable to get the skin rivets bucked. The attached pictures show the two areas. One is in the bottom right corner where the F-1041 meets F-1042 and the other is behind the F-1001J where the forward longeron attaches. What have others done in these two spots? Anyone have a special bucking bar recommendation or maybe the use of pop rivets in these areas? Thanks, -Sean #40303 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:25:00 PM PST US From: Jeff Carpenter Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin I used 1/2" and/or 3/4" steel bar material in areas like this.... resulting in very sore fingers for a few days afterwards. Jeff Carpenter 40304 On Oct 19, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Sean Stephens wrote: > Working on wrapping up the dreaded Section 29 and have come across > two areas where I am unable to get the skin rivets bucked. The > attached pictures show the two areas. One is in the bottom right > corner where the F-1041 meets F-1042 and the other is behind the > F-1001J where the forward longeron attaches. > > What have others done in these two spots? Anyone have a special > bucking bar recommendation or maybe the use of pop rivets in these > areas? > > Thanks, > > -Sean #40303 > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:40:46 PM PST US From: Sean Stephens Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin Is that the modified emp bar you are referring to? Unfortunately an RV-10 builder in Prescott, AZ "borrowed" my emp bar a few years ago and never returned it. Cannot remember his name or if he is even still around. -Sean #40303 On 10/19/10 4:14 PM, Bob Leffler wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob Leffler" > > My tungsten bar fit in those places without an issue. I know that wasn't > the answer you were looking for. > > Bob > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens > Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 4:44 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin > > Working on wrapping up the dreaded Section 29 and have come across two > areas where I am unable to get the skin rivets bucked. The attached > pictures show the two areas. One is in the bottom right corner where the > F-1041 meets F-1042 and the other is behind the F-1001J where the forward > longeron attaches. > > What have others done in these two spots? Anyone have a special bucking bar > recommendation or maybe the use of pop rivets in these areas? > > Thanks, > > -Sean #40303 > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:25:29 PM PST US From: "Bob Leffler" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin Nope, my tungsten bar is relatively thin, but unmodified. I also have some thinner steel bars, but don't recall using them there. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 5:38 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin Is that the modified emp bar you are referring to? Unfortunately an RV-10 builder in Prescott, AZ "borrowed" my emp bar a few years ago and never returned it. Cannot remember his name or if he is even still around. -Sean #40303 On 10/19/10 4:14 PM, Bob Leffler wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob Leffler" > > My tungsten bar fit in those places without an issue. I know that > wasn't the answer you were looking for. > > Bob > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean > Stephens > Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 4:44 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin > > Working on wrapping up the dreaded Section 29 and have come across > two areas where I am unable to get the skin rivets bucked. The > attached pictures show the two areas. One is in the bottom right > corner where the > F-1041 meets F-1042 and the other is behind the F-1001J where the > forward longeron attaches. > > What have others done in these two spots? Anyone have a special > bucking bar recommendation or maybe the use of pop rivets in these areas? > > Thanks, > > -Sean #40303 > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:34:30 PM PST US From: "Pascal" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin Bob; You just had to rub that in!!, but actually it's the perfect answer. The bar is small and tough, but it's expensive too. It does work very well for a person just starting who could benefit from it throughout the build. Sean; I used thin plates (1/2 in or so) initially and grinded down one of my bucking bars to fit after not being able to take the abuse of the riveting on the plates. You'll have many more small areas that will need tight riveting. Consider cherry rivets or pop rivets- which BTW I rarely did until the RV-12 came out and I figured the whole plane is pop rivets so it can't be that bad. Pascal -------------------------------------------------- From: "Bob Leffler" Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:14 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin > > My tungsten bar fit in those places without an issue. I know that wasn't > the answer you were looking for. > > Bob > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens > Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 4:44 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin > > Working on wrapping up the dreaded Section 29 and have come across two > areas where I am unable to get the skin rivets bucked. The attached > pictures show the two areas. One is in the bottom right corner where the > F-1041 meets F-1042 and the other is behind the F-1001J where the forward > longeron attaches. > > What have others done in these two spots? Anyone have a special bucking > bar > recommendation or maybe the use of pop rivets in these areas? > > Thanks, > > -Sean #40303 > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 03:45:11 PM PST US From: Sean Stephens Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin Did you purchase the bar or make it? If you bought it, do you have a reference link? Thanks, -Sean #40303 On 10/19/10 5:20 PM, Bob Leffler wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob Leffler" > > Nope, my tungsten bar is relatively thin, but unmodified. I also have some > thinner steel bars, but don't recall using them there. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens > Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 5:38 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens > > Is that the modified emp bar you are referring to? Unfortunately an > RV-10 builder in Prescott, AZ "borrowed" my emp bar a few years ago and > never returned it. Cannot remember his name or if he is even still around. > > -Sean #40303 > > On 10/19/10 4:14 PM, Bob Leffler wrote: >> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob Leffler" >> >> My tungsten bar fit in those places without an issue. I know that >> wasn't the answer you were looking for. >> >> Bob >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean >> Stephens >> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 4:44 PM >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RV10-List: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin >> >> Working on wrapping up the dreaded Section 29 and have come across >> two areas where I am unable to get the skin rivets bucked. The >> attached pictures show the two areas. One is in the bottom right >> corner where the >> F-1041 meets F-1042 and the other is behind the F-1001J where the >> forward longeron attaches. >> >> What have others done in these two spots? Anyone have a special >> bucking bar recommendation or maybe the use of pop rivets in these areas? >> >> Thanks, >> >> -Sean #40303 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:54:38 PM PST US From: Carlos Hernandez Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin Here's a less expensive tungsten choice....http://www.tungsten-bucking-bar.com/prices.html Carlos in AZ On 10/19/2010 3:31 PM, Pascal wrote: > > Bob; > You just had to rub that in!!, but actually it's the perfect answer. > The bar is small and tough, but it's expensive too. It does work very > well for a person just starting who could benefit from it throughout > the build. > > Sean; > I used thin plates (1/2 in or so) initially and grinded down one of > my bucking bars to fit after not being able to take the abuse of the > riveting on the plates. > > You'll have many more small areas that will need tight riveting. > Consider cherry rivets or pop rivets- which BTW I rarely did until the > RV-12 came out and I figured the whole plane is pop rivets so it can't > be that bad. > > Pascal > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Bob Leffler" > Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 2:14 PM > To: > Subject: RE: RV10-List: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin > >> >> My tungsten bar fit in those places without an issue. I know that >> wasn't >> the answer you were looking for. >> >> Bob >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens >> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 4:44 PM >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RV10-List: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin >> >> Working on wrapping up the dreaded Section 29 and have come across two >> areas where I am unable to get the skin rivets bucked. The attached >> pictures show the two areas. One is in the bottom right corner where >> the >> F-1041 meets F-1042 and the other is behind the F-1001J where the >> forward >> longeron attaches. >> >> What have others done in these two spots? Anyone have a special >> bucking bar >> recommendation or maybe the use of pop rivets in these areas? >> >> Thanks, >> >> -Sean #40303 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > -- Carlos Hernandez Structural Engineers Company 2963 W. 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If you havereceived this email in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete this email from your system. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:57:13 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin From: effectus@rogers.com You can get them from Mike Lauritsen at Cleaveland Tools Dave ------Original Message------ From: Sean Stephens Sender: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: rv10-list Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin Sent: Oct 19, 2010 6:38 PM Did you purchase the bar or make it? If you bought it, do you have a reference link? Thanks, -Sean #40303 On 10/19/10 5:20 PM, Bob Leffler wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob Leffler" > > Nope, my tungsten bar is relatively thin, but unmodified. I also have some > thinner steel bars, but don't recall using them there. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens > Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 5:38 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens > > Is that the modified emp bar you are referring to? Unfortunately an > RV-10 builder in Prescott, AZ "borrowed" my emp bar a few years ago and > never returned it. Cannot remember his name or if he is even still around. > > -Sean #40303 > > On 10/19/10 4:14 PM, Bob Leffler wrote: >> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob Leffler" >> >> My tungsten bar fit in those places without an issue. I know that >> wasn't the answer you were looking for. >> >> Bob >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean >> Stephens >> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 4:44 PM >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RV10-List: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin >> >> Working on wrapping up the dreaded Section 29 and have come across >> two areas where I am unable to get the skin rivets bucked. The >> attached pictures show the two areas. One is in the bottom right >> corner where the >> F-1041 meets F-1042 and the other is behind the F-1001J where the >> forward longeron attaches. >> >> What have others done in these two spots? Anyone have a special >> bucking bar recommendation or maybe the use of pop rivets in these areas? >> >> Thanks, >> >> -Sean #40303 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:01:00 PM PST US From: Jeff Carpenter Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin Stein sells a tungsten bar. Make sure you're sitting down when you see the price. On Oct 19, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Sean Stephens wrote: > > > Did you purchase the bar or make it? If you bought it, do you have > a reference link? > > Thanks, > > -Sean #40303 > > On 10/19/10 5:20 PM, Bob Leffler wrote: >> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob Leffler" >> >> Nope, my tungsten bar is relatively thin, but unmodified. I also >> have some >> thinner steel bars, but don't recall using them there. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean >> Stephens >> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 5:38 PM >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin >> >> --> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens> > >> >> Is that the modified emp bar you are referring to? Unfortunately >> an >> RV-10 builder in Prescott, AZ "borrowed" my emp bar a few years ago >> and >> never returned it. Cannot remember his name or if he is even still >> around. >> >> -Sean #40303 >> >> On 10/19/10 4:14 PM, Bob Leffler wrote: >>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob Leffler" >>> >>> My tungsten bar fit in those places without an issue. I know that >>> wasn't the answer you were looking for. >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean >>> Stephens >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 4:44 PM >>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >>> Subject: RV10-List: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin >>> >>> Working on wrapping up the dreaded Section 29 and have come >>> across >>> two areas where I am unable to get the skin rivets bucked. The >>> attached pictures show the two areas. One is in the bottom right >>> corner where the >>> F-1041 meets F-1042 and the other is behind the F-1001J where the >>> forward longeron attaches. >>> >>> What have others done in these two spots? Anyone have a special >>> bucking bar recommendation or maybe the use of pop rivets in these >>> areas? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> -Sean #40303 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 04:09:04 PM PST US From: Robert Brunkenhoefer Subject: Re: RV10-List: gas strut I bought the ones made in Europe. When I open up they go up and stay up just fine. That's how I like them to work. Ordered from stateside. Don't remember who. But mc masters sounds right. It's windy here in kcrp but the doors are not effected. Fwiw Robert Brunkenhoefer Sent from my Apple iPad On Oct 19, 2010, at 2:49 PM, gary wrote: > So, after all the e-mails about replacement door struts, has anyone found one that replaces Van=99s heavy duty one? Where do you buy, what is the part #, and what is the price? Lots of possibilities were listed but no definite conclusions from someone who has actually done it and it worked as advertised. > > Gary Specketer > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DLM > Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 2:51 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: gas strut > > Has anyone tried the 9416K15 or 4175T5 from McMaster? This seems to be the most comparable to the original struts supplied by Vans. > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > http://forums.matronics.com > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:50:01 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: fuel valve with position both From: Jim Combs Here is my solution to the "hard to feel detent" on the Vans fuel selector. I made two stops using tubing and countersunk screws. Now the fuel is easily positioned from one fuel tank to the other even in the dark. Jim Combs - N312F ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 04:50:34 PM PST US From: "DLM" Subject: RV10-List: aileron trim Anyone have experience using and/or retrofitting the Vans aileron (spring) trim system? ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 05:55:18 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin From: Chris Colohan I picked up a tungsten bar from ebay, sold by the fine folks at www.tungsten.com. Works great. It is edging out my Cleaveland Main Squeeze as my "favourite tool". Chris On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Jeff Carpenter wrote: > > Stein sells a tungsten bar. Make sure you're sitting down when you see the > price. > > > On Oct 19, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Sean Stephens wrote: > >> >> Did you purchase the bar or make it? If you bought it, do you have a >> reference link? >> >> Thanks, >> >> -Sean #40303 >> >> On 10/19/10 5:20 PM, Bob Leffler wrote: >> >>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob Leffler" >>> >>> Nope, my tungsten bar is relatively thin, but unmodified. I also have >>> some >>> thinner steel bars, but don't recall using them there. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 5:38 PM >>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin >>> >>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens >>> >>> Is that the modified emp bar you are referring to? Unfortunately an >>> RV-10 builder in Prescott, AZ "borrowed" my emp bar a few years ago and >>> never returned it. Cannot remember his name or if he is even still >>> around. >>> >>> -Sean #40303 >>> >>> On 10/19/10 4:14 PM, Bob Leffler wrote: >>> >>>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob Leffler" >>>> >>>> My tungsten bar fit in those places without an issue. I know that >>>> wasn't the answer you were looking for. >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >>>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean >>>> Stephens >>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 4:44 PM >>>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >>>> Subject: RV10-List: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin >>>> >>>> Working on wrapping up the dreaded Section 29 and have come across >>>> two areas where I am unable to get the skin rivets bucked. The >>>> attached pictures show the two areas. One is in the bottom right >>>> corner where the >>>> F-1041 meets F-1042 and the other is behind the F-1001J where the >>>> forward longeron attaches. >>>> >>>> What have others done in these two spots? Anyone have a special >>>> bucking bar recommendation or maybe the use of pop rivets in these >>>> areas? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> -Sean #40303 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 06:00:14 PM PST US From: Deems Davis Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin Sean: Here's what I did for that situation: http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2029%20Fuse%20Side%20Skins/slides/DSC02624.html I used a cutoff wheel on a die grinder to make the cut, BTW ,I think I know where your emp bar is, it found its way into my hangar, send me your address and I'll send it to you. Deems On 10/19/2010 2:38 PM, Sean Stephens wrote: > > Is that the modified emp bar you are referring to? Unfortunately an > RV-10 builder in Prescott, AZ "borrowed" my emp bar a few years ago > and never returned it. Cannot remember his name or if he is even > still around. > > -Sean #40303 > > On 10/19/10 4:14 PM, Bob Leffler wrote: >> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob Leffler" >> >> My tungsten bar fit in those places without an issue. I know that >> wasn't >> the answer you were looking for. >> >> Bob >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens >> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 4:44 PM >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RV10-List: Tough Rivets on Fuse Forward Side Skin >> >> Working on wrapping up the dreaded Section 29 and have come across >> two >> areas where I am unable to get the skin rivets bucked. The attached >> pictures show the two areas. One is in the bottom right corner where >> the >> F-1041 meets F-1042 and the other is behind the F-1001J where the >> forward >> longeron attaches. >> >> What have others done in these two spots? Anyone have a special >> bucking bar >> recommendation or maybe the use of pop rivets in these areas? >> >> Thanks, >> >> -Sean #40303 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 06:28:53 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: fuel valve with position both From: "Bob Turner" If the fuel line ruptures up in the engine area, how do you turn the fuel off? Try to feel between the detents? As many do not know, starting about 2 and a half years ago, Vans began sending a different fuel valve arrangement out with kits. There is now a spring loaded, lift-to-turn, handle with positive detents. IMHO it also looks a whole lot nicer than the old handle. -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316402#316402 ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 08:52:10 PM PST US From: Bill Watson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Successful Windscreen installation with Weld-On 10 That's what I was thinking. Clearly some people had some problems where they were trying to apply a lot of pressure to the glass to get it to conform to the somewhat irregular glass top. I used the aluminum fingers method but kept it all light and didn't try flex the plexi at all. The Weldon does adhere a lot better than just epoxy or something and seems definitely worth using. The urethane stuff that I think Geoff used sounds good too. On 10/19/2010 2:46 PM, Kevin Belue wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: Kevin Belue > > I think that window installation with Weldon without crazing is the norm and has been done for several years. Good write up. > ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 09:40:59 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: gas strut From: "Lenny Iszak" In June I got a quote for a 600N gas strut from Bansbach/EasyLift, for $45 each, the quote was for 4 struts. It has practically the same dimensions as the Stabilus struts that come with the kit, and has increased end damping. Attached an image of each with dimensions. I never ended up ordering them though, so can't tell if they will work or not. It's made in Germany also, and lead time is 8 weeks. Their website: http://www.bansbach.de/com/gasfedern/konfigurator.html Lenny Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316428#316428 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/easylift_523.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/vans_gas_spring_137.jpg ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 10:52:53 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 breaks record From: "Lenny Iszak" ... and the last comment on that article: "Didn't John Denver fly in an experimental plane?" :) haaa Lenny [quote="rv10builder(at)verizon.ne"]John is local to me. He is a great and driven person who has helped me with my RV-10 when I first got started. http://www.ocregister.com/articles/rost-271399-says-airplane.html (http://www.ocregister.com/articles/rost-271399-says-airplane.html) Pascal > [b] Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316434#316434 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.