---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 10/20/10: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:53 AM - Re: Re: fuel valve with position both (gary) 2. 08:15 AM - Are the e-glass strips for the included in the kit? (Michael Wellenzohn) 3. 09:49 AM - Re: Are the e-glass strips for the included in the kit? (Bob Turner) 4. 12:00 PM - Re: Are the e-glass strips for the included in the kit? (rleffler) 5. 12:35 PM - Re: Are the e-glass strips for the included in the kit? (Michael Wellenzohn) 6. 03:03 PM - Re: Re: RV-10 breaks record (Don McDonald) 7. 04:39 PM - Re: Re: RV-10 breaks record (Kelly McMullen) 8. 04:41 PM - Re: Re: fuel valve with position both (Jim Combs) 9. 04:54 PM - Re: Re: fuel valve with position both (Jim Combs) 10. 05:09 PM - Re: Re: RV-10 breaks record (DLM) 11. 05:26 PM - Trutrak auto trim (DLM) 12. 06:25 PM - Re: Re: RV-10 breaks record (Don McDonald) 13. 08:44 PM - Re: fuel valve with position both (Bob Turner) 14. 09:08 PM - Re: aileron trim (Roger Standley) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:53:18 AM PST US From: "gary" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: fuel valve with position both Jim, how do you turn off the fuel in an emergency? Gary Specketer _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Combs Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 7:47 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: fuel valve with position both Here is my solution to the "hard to feel detent" on the Vans fuel selector. I made two stops using tubing and countersunk screws. Now the fuel is easily positioned from one fuel tank to the other even in the dark. Jim Combs - N312F ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:15:50 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Are the e-glass strips for the included in the kit? From: "Michael Wellenzohn" Hi, probably a funny question, but I found three rolls of various width of e-glass in my workshop, but as per the plans there are 10 different widths mentioned. I can't remember if the glass came with the kit. Cheers Michael -------- RV-10 builder (interior,avionics, wiring) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316458#316458 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:49:59 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Are the e-glass strips for the included in the kit? From: "Bob Turner" I don't recall the e-glass being included. -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316469#316469 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:00:10 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Are the e-glass strips for the included in the kit? From: "rleffler" The only fiberglass provided was the pieces for the door. bob -------- Bob Leffler N410BL - Finish RV-10 #40684 http://mykitlog.com/rleffler Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316488#316488 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:35:31 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Are the e-glass strips for the included in the kit? From: "Michael Wellenzohn" Thanks guys. I thought so, I guess I bought them in my early years of building with the enthusiasm that it won't be long until I need them......five years later :-) Michael DO NOT ARCHIVE -------- RV-10 builder (interior,avionics, wiring) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316491#316491 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:03:20 PM PST US From: Don McDonald Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 breaks record Gotta love this plane... , I managed to get through some holes in the Chino CA weather and make it to Stellar Airpark, just ouside of Phoenix.- Then left this morning and managed nonstop to Pecan Plantation SSW of Ft Worth. - 749nm, 862sm, in 4.6 hours using 47.5 gallons of fuel... done without t he normal favoring winds.- Wife, Kim is driving a car, and is not real ha ppy with me at this point!- She'll arrive tomorrow afternoon... pretty ti red I'm sure. Don McDonald - Thanks Pascal for the transportation, and Jeff, thanks for the hangar, and send me you address information. - I guess if you do the math that works out to a little over 187mph average. - Better that the guy in the article, and he had more miles to spread his climbout over. --- On Tue, 10/19/10, Lenny Iszak wrote: From: Lenny Iszak Subject: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 breaks record ... and the last comment on that article: "Didn't John Denver fly in an experimental plane?" :) haaa Lenny [quote="rv10builder(at)verizon.ne"]John is local to me. He is a great and driven person who- has helped me with my RV-10 when I first got started. http://www.ocregister.com/articles/rost-271399-says-airplane.html (http://w ww.ocregister.com/articles/rost-271399-says-airplane.html) - Pascal --- > [b] Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316434#316434 le, List Admin. =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:39:54 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 breaks record From: Kelly McMullen You planned this trip without spending this weekend at CopperState Fly-In???? Sacrilege! On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Don McDonald wrote: > Gotta love this plane... , I managed to get through some holes in the Chino > CA weather and make it to Stellar Airpark, just ouside of Phoenix. Then > left this morning and managed nonstop to Pecan Plantation SSW of Ft Worth. > 749nm, 862sm, in 4.6 hours using 47.5 gallons of fuel... done without the > normal favoring winds. Wife, Kim is driving a car, and is not real happy > with me at this point! She'll arrive tomorrow afternoon... pretty tired I'm > sure. > Don McDonald > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:41:17 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: fuel valve with position both From: Jim Combs The middle position blocks both fuel lines. Jim C On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Bob Turner wrote: > > If the fuel line ruptures up in the engine area, how do you turn the fuel > off? Try to feel between the detents? > > As many do not know, starting about 2 and a half years ago, Vans began > sending a different fuel valve arrangement out with kits. There is now a > spring loaded, lift-to-turn, handle with positive detents. IMHO it also > looks a whole lot nicer than the old handle. > > -------- > Bob Turner > RV-10 QB > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316402#316402 > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:54:15 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: fuel valve with position both From: Jim Combs The center position cuts off the fuel but there is no detent. Is the new valve a drop in replacement or does it require re-plumbing? Jim C On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Bob Turner wrote: > > If the fuel line ruptures up in the engine area, how do you turn the fuel > off? Try to feel between the detents? > > As many do not know, starting about 2 and a half years ago, Vans began > sending a different fuel valve arrangement out with kits. There is now a > spring loaded, lift-to-turn, handle with positive detents. IMHO it also > looks a whole lot nicer than the old handle. > > -------- > Bob Turner > RV-10 QB > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316402#316402 > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:09:04 PM PST US From: "DLM" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 breaks record what kind of weather at Chino? Sounds like the lack of favorable winds might be due to being relaltive low altitude for the CA AZ part of the trip. What percent power was used for the Stellar FTW portion of the trip? LOP? ----- Original Message ----- From: Don McDonald To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 2:59 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 breaks record Gotta love this plane... , I managed to get through some holes in the Chino CA weather and make it to Stellar Airpark, just ouside of Phoenix. Then left this morning and managed nonstop to Pecan Plantation SSW of Ft Worth. 749nm, 862sm, in 4.6 hours using 47.5 gallons of fuel... done without the normal favoring winds. Wife, Kim is driving a car, and is not real happy with me at this point! She'll arrive tomorrow afternoon... pretty tired I'm sure. Don McDonald Thanks Pascal for the transportation, and Jeff, thanks for the hangar, and send me you address information. I guess if you do the math that works out to a little over 187mph average. Better that the guy in the article, and he had more miles to spread his climbout over. --- On Tue, 10/19/10, Lenny Iszak wrote: From: Lenny Iszak Subject: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 breaks record To: rv10-list@matronics.com Date: Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 10:50 PM ... and the last comment on that article: "Didn't John Denver fly in an experimental plane?" :) haaa Lenny [quote="rv10builder(at)verizon.ne"]John is local to me. He is a great and driven person who has helped me with my RV-10 when I first got started. http://www.ocregister.com/articles/rost-271399-says-airplane.html (http://www.ocregister.com/articles/rost-271399-says-airplane.html) Pascal > [b] Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316434#316434http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?RV10-Lis --> http://forums.matronbsp; - List Contribution Web Site -http://www===================== = ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:26:44 PM PST US From: "DLM" Subject: RV10-List: Trutrak auto trim Ordered today and wired the harness this afternoon. Two hours were required to make male Dsub 9 pin for AP side, 25 pin female Dsub for the auto trim box and a 9 pin female dsub for the servo attach. TT indicates that a special connector is available if the unit ever needs to be removed for service. The aircraft could continue flying with existing manual trim. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:25:30 PM PST US From: Don McDonald Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 breaks record see below --- On Wed, 10/20/10, DLM wrote: From: DLM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 breaks record what kind of weather at Chino?--- Total overcast/mist/rain.- Pascal said that the day I left that night they had numerous thunderstorms and no holes the next day... just a vfr pilot at this time.- Sounds like the la ck of favorable winds might be due to being relaltive low altitude for the CA AZ part of the trip.- Chino to Stellar was at 9.500'.- Weather was f ine, flight was fine... just getting through the cloud layers at Chino was the problem.- -What percent power was used for the Stellar FTW portion of the trip? LOP?- I flew the first part of this leg at 9500', then the r emainder at 11,500 due to clouds.- I usually fly at 2,000 to 2100 rpm, 20 to 21mp, and lop... it seems to depend on altitude, wind direction, and- temperature.... I just try to get everything set at a combination that keep everything happy.- Not so lop that the engine sputters, not too close to peak where the cht's climb.- Sometimes, like today, it even means backin g down the mp a bit.- If you ck the pics, wind at Sweetwater was 060 at 6kt, not favorable at all .- The shot of the panel shows 2,080 rpm, alt 11,400, and mp pulled back about 1" worth.- Sending the AFS efis back to upgrade this winter... then I'll have the oat, and tach working... then I'll actually have tas and win d info. Don't know what percent power I was running at... but Kelley will figure it out for us. Kelley, sorry for not getting over to Chandler... had some sailing friends that live right by Stellar...and-I took them up for a short ride... sorry Pascal... one of these days!- Stellar is-really nice.. fuel $4.18, and $5 per night tiedown. Don McDonald ----- Original Message ----- From: Don McDonald Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 2:59 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 breaks record Gotta love this plane... , I managed to get through some holes in the Chino CA weather and make it to Stellar Airpark, just ouside of Phoenix.- Then left this morning and managed nonstop to Pecan Plantation SSW of Ft Worth. - 749nm, 862sm, in 4.6 hours using 47.5 gallons of fuel... done without t he normal favoring winds.- Wife, Kim is driving a car, and is not real ha ppy with me at this point!- She'll arrive tomorrow afternoon... pretty ti red I'm sure. Don McDonald - Thanks Pascal for the transportation, and Jeff, thanks for the hangar, and send me you address information. - I guess if you do the math that works out to a little over 187mph average. - Better that the guy in the article, and he had more miles to spread his climbout over. --- On Tue, 10/19/10, Lenny Iszak wrote: From: Lenny Iszak Subject: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 breaks record ... and the last comment on that article: "Didn't John Denver fly in an experimental plane?" :) haaa Lenny [quote="rv10builder(at)verizon.ne"]John is local to me. He is a great and driven person who- has helped me with my RV-10 when I first got started. http://www.ocregister.com/articles/rost-271399-says-airplane.html (http://w ww.ocregister.com/articles/rost-271399-says-airplane.html) - Pascal --- > [b] Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316434#316434 http://www.matr onics.com/Navigator?RV10-Lis-----> http://forums.matronbsp; - - - ---- List Contribution Web Site - http://www======= =============== href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics. com/Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:44:08 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: fuel valve with position both From: "Bob Turner" The new valve requires re-plumbing. It's the same valve but as I recall the shaft has been slightly modified (thinner?). It sits lower (to give more room for the hot air ducting), and connects to the handle with a long shaft. The valve is rotated 180 degrees, eliminating the "cross over" in the fuel lines. The penetration out of the center tunnel is now handled by an AN fitting, instead of bending the tubing and a rubber grommet. I was unfortunate to get an "in between" kit; some parts were for the old set up, some for the new. Vans asked which one I wanted, I said the new set up, and they sent the needed parts. I did have to re-engineer some of the now-wrong holes; in particular, mounting the valve lower. Bob -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316528#316528 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:08:33 PM PST US From: Roger Standley Subject: RE: RV10-List: aileron trim Yes=2C works great. Simple. From: dlm34077@cox.net Subject: RV10-List: aileron trim Anyone have experience using and/or retrofitting the Vans aileron (spring) trim system? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.