RV10-List Digest Archive

Mon 11/01/10


Total Messages Posted: 16



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     0. 12:16 AM - PLEASE READ - List Fund Raiser Kickoff! (Matt Dralle)
     1. 12:12 AM - Re: Overhead consoles and headliners (Robin Marks)
     2. 02:26 AM - Re: Overhead consoles and headliners (Bob Leffler)
     3. 06:54 AM - Re: Oil Pressure? (Jesse Saint)
     4. 06:55 AM - Re: Airflow control on the Oil Cooler (Jesse Saint)
     5. 07:45 AM - Re: Airflow control on the Oil Cooler (Carl Froehlich)
     6. 07:47 AM - Re: Airflow control on the Oil Cooler (Don McDonald)
     7. 11:41 AM - Plane Around... Door latch w/ flush handles question (jayb)
     8. 12:26 PM - Re: wire ties (Phil)
     9. 01:22 PM - Re: Plane Around... Door latch w/ flush handles question (Les Kearney)
    10. 02:14 PM - Re: Overhead consoles and headliners (Geoff Combs)
    11. 03:06 PM - Oil Lines Worn (Scott Schmidt)
    12. 03:47 PM - Re: Oil Lines Worn (Tim Olson)
    13. 03:54 PM - Re: Overhead consoles and headliners (Patrick Pulis)
    14. 07:01 PM - Re: Re: wire ties (Rick Lark)
    15. 07:48 PM - Re: Oil Lines Worn (Miller John)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:16:24 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: PLEASE READ - List Fund Raiser Kickoff!
    Dear Listers, Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation and upgrade of the List services at Matronics. It's solely through the Contributions of List members that these Matronics Lists are possible. There is NO advertising to support the Lists. You might have noticed the conspicuous lack of flashing banners and annoying pop-ups on the Matronics Email List email messages and web site pages including: * Matronics List Forums http://forums.matronics.com * Matronics List List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com * Matronics List Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search * Matronics List Browser http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse You don't find advertising on any of these pages because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisements. During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages. The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the bills associated with running these Lists. Your personal Contribution counts! Once again, this year I've got a terrific line up of free gifts to go along with the various Contribution levels. Most all of these gifts have been provided by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists and have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates. This year, these generous people include: * Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection http://www.aeroelectric.com * Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore http://www.buildersbooks.com * Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP http://www.homebuilthelp.com These are extremely generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, Andy, and Jon for their generous support of the Lists again this year!! You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying Contribution amount!! To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site below: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral support over the years! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator RV-8 Builder and Flyer


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    Time: 12:12:49 AM PST US
    From: Robin Marks <Robin@PaintTheWeb.com>
    Subject: Overhead consoles and headliners
    RE: RV10-List: Overhead consoles and headliners I don=92t think so but 6=92 and no hair. The OH console is one of the best mods for comfort (and additional function-Lights, Cable Routing, O2) IMHO. R *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Gordon Anderson *Sent:* Sunday, October 31, 2010 11:44 PM *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Overhead consoles and headliners Hi folks, I picked up on a comment yesterday about not wanting to have the overhead console so close to the head. Is there an issue, either in the front or rear seats? I'm 6ft 2". Gordon Anderson Switzerland, #41015 - Starting tailcone Do not archive ------------------------------ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com


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    Time: 02:26:57 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Leffler" <rv@thelefflers.com>
    Subject: Overhead consoles and headliners
    I'm 6' 2" as well. I've not had a problem in any of the RV-10s that I've flown in with an overhead console. I've flown with Aerosport Products, Non-Stop Aviation, Accuracy Avionics, AirCrafters, and several custom built overheads. I had plenty of room with all. bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gordon Anderson Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 2:44 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Overhead consoles and headliners Hi folks, I picked up on a comment yesterday about not wanting to have the overhead console so close to the head. Is there an issue, either in the front or rear seats? I'm 6ft 2". Gordon Anderson Switzerland, #41015 - Starting tailcone Do not archive


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    Time: 06:54:44 AM PST US
    From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    Subject: Re: Oil Pressure?
    What was your oil temperature. Oil pressure usually responds inversely with oil temperature. If you were running it hard during your flight and had high oil temperature, then the oil pressure might drop a little, then possibly descending to pattern altitude cooled the oil some and caused the pressure to come up. Just a thought. do not archive Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com C: 352-427-0285 F: 815-377-3694 On Oct 31, 2010, at 11:51 PM, Dawson-Townsend,Timothy wrote: > Hmm. The engine has been pretty bullet-proof for 30 hours of test flying. Then today I flew a couple of flights about 30-40 minutes each ' no troubles. > > Then on flight number three, after 15 minutes or so, I notice that Oil Pressure has dropped into the 50s. It dripped a little more, and eventually seemed to stabilize between 43 and 48 as I headed back to the airport. Changing the throttle or prop settings seemed to have minimal effect. As I got down towards pattern altitude, it seemed to creep back up to the high 50s and back over 60. > > I haven=92t had time to pull the cowl off to look around, but there certainly wasn=92t oil pouring out on the ramp, and there=92s 9 quarts on the dipstick. > > Thoughts? > > TDT > > Tim Dawson-Townsend > RV-10 N52KS > APRS KB1URG > tdt@aurora.aero > 617-500-4812 (office) > 617-905-4800 (mobile) > <image001.png> >


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    Time: 06:55:24 AM PST US
    From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    Subject: Re: Airflow control on the Oil Cooler
    I'm torn in my mind as to whether it is necessary or not. Really, the vernatherm in the engine should control the temperature of the oil to what it needs to be by allowing or not allowing oil to go through the cooler (just like the thermostat in your car). On very cold days in the northern states, the small amount of oil that is allowed to go through the cooler to keep the oil from congealing in the cooler might be enough to keep the temperatures down, so blocking the airflow could likely cause a difference there. Also, for the same reason, on cold days it could allow you to get your oil temperatures up before takeoff so you don't have to run so long on the ground. My main question is, what happens if the cable becomes disconnected during flight, especially on a warm day. If the valve is designed in a way that it will stay open, then I wouldn't be concerned, but if it could possibly close or, even worse, get jammed in the closed position, then I would be very careful in making the decision whether or not to install it. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com C: 352-427-0285 F: 815-377-3694 On Oct 30, 2010, at 7:16 PM, Phillip Perry wrote: > Quick question as I'm doing some planning. > > What's the general consensus on the need for a push/pull baffle to control airflow to the oil cooler on the RV-10? > > Have some of the folks had issues at altitude with cold oil temps? I'm pretty sure some of the ground ops in the northern states have reported issues with cooler temps. > > I'm wondering if I should dedicate a spot on the panel for the push/pull cable. > > Thanks, > Phil > > > > >


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    Time: 07:45:34 AM PST US
    From: "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
    Subject: Airflow control on the Oil Cooler
    I have a butterfly oil cooler air valve in my 8A, and am putting one in the 10 as well. I found it very useful to get oil temps up to 180 in the wintertime. Jesse makes some good points. Some thoughts: - As we know, the veratherm valve does not stop oil flow through the cooler, it just opens a bypass for oil to go around the cooler as well as through it. I found that on cold days there was still enough oil flow through the cooler to keep temps well below 180 degrees. - On the issue of the air valve sticking shut, I designed the butterfly valve such that some air still got to the cooler even with the valve fully shut. Another thought is if the valve sticks shut, you probably had it shut because it was a cold day so you should be ok to make a convenience landing someplace to fix it. In cruise on cold days with the valve fully shut I get 180 degrees. I never had the valve stick (open or shut). - Oil pre-heat is a must on cold days. I have the electric strips that bond to the sump that Van's sells. They work very well and I recommend them. I plug them in an hour or two before takeoff, longer on really cold days. DO NOT leave them plugged for prolonged periods as they will allow the moisture driven off from the oil to condense on the cooler engine parts higher up (e.g. cam shaft). Carl From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 9:53 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Airflow control on the Oil Cooler I'm torn in my mind as to whether it is necessary or not. Really, the vernatherm in the engine should control the temperature of the oil to what it needs to be by allowing or not allowing oil to go through the cooler (just like the thermostat in your car). On very cold days in the northern states, the small amount of oil that is allowed to go through the cooler to keep the oil from congealing in the cooler might be enough to keep the temperatures down, so blocking the airflow could likely cause a difference there. Also, for the same reason, on cold days it could allow you to get your oil temperatures up before takeoff so you don't have to run so long on the ground. My main question is, what happens if the cable becomes disconnected during flight, especially on a warm day. If the valve is designed in a way that it will stay open, then I wouldn't be concerned, but if it could possibly close or, even worse, get jammed in the closed position, then I would be very careful in making the decision whether or not to install it. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com C: 352-427-0285 F: 815-377-3694 On Oct 30, 2010, at 7:16 PM, Phillip Perry wrote: Quick question as I'm doing some planning. What's the general consensus on the need for a push/pull baffle to control airflow to the oil cooler on the RV-10? Have some of the folks had issues at altitude with cold oil temps? I'm pretty sure some of the ground ops in the northern states have reported issues with cooler temps. I'm wondering if I should dedicate a spot on the panel for the push/pull cable. Thanks, Phil href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contri bution


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    Time: 07:47:29 AM PST US
    From: Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Airflow control on the Oil Cooler
    I made my butterfly valve easy to remove... so that is what I have done in the past... remove it in the summer months.... also, I made the butterfly s maller than the openning by 1/4" to 3/8" so that if it were to fall off the shaft and lodge itself in the scat, there would still be airflow... the ol e "ask me how I know" statement applies here.... when that did happenned, i t was in the winter and the oil temps were perfect, so I didn't mess with i t for a couple of weeks.- Since then I changed how it's mounted so it sho uld never come loose again. Don McDonald --- On Mon, 11/1/10, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com> wrote: From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Airflow control on the Oil Cooler I'm torn in my mind as to whether it is necessary or not. -Really, the ve rnatherm in the engine should control the temperature of the oil to what it needs to be by allowing or not allowing oil to go through the cooler (just like the thermostat in your car). -On very cold days in the northern sta tes, the small amount of oil that is allowed to go through the cooler to ke ep the oil from congealing in the cooler might be enough to keep the temper atures down, so blocking the airflow could likely cause a difference there. -Also, for the same reason, on cold days it could allow you to get your oil temperatures up before takeoff so you don't have to run so long on the ground. -My main question is, what happens if the cable becomes disconnec ted during flight, especially on a warm day. -If the valve is designed in a way that it will stay open, then I wouldn't be concerned, but if it coul d possibly close or, even worse, get jammed in the closed position, then I would be very careful in making the decision whether or not to install i t. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com C: 352-427-0285 F: 815-377-3694 On Oct 30, 2010, at 7:16 PM, Phillip Perry wrote: Quick question as I'm doing some planning. What's the general consensus on the need for a push/pull baffle to control airflow to the oil cooler on the RV-10? Have some of the folks had issues at altitude with cold oil temps?- I'm p retty sure some of the ground ops in the northern states have reported issu es with cooler temps. I'm wondering if I should dedicate a spot on the panel for the push/pull ca ble. Thanks, Phil href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics. com/Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/con tribution =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 11:41:47 AM PST US
    Subject: Plane Around... Door latch w/ flush handles question
    From: "jayb" <jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com>
    Has anyone else retrofitted their flush doors to use Plane Around latches? My door have iflyrv flush door handles already installed... and working. I'd like to incorporate Plane Around center latches to get the doors to positively close every time: http://www.planearound.com/ The attached photo shows the back side of the flush handle workings. The aft push tube would appear to constrain extra throw as the linkage arm will limit its movement. That is, the total range of push tube motion will have to be the same - before and after adding the Plane Around center latch mechanism. This would seem to rule out use of the 180 degree retro kit. What have others done here? Would a 90 degree motion of the Plane Around center latch be sufficient? Thanks, Jay Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=317778#317778 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/flush_204.jpg


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    Time: 12:26:04 PM PST US
    From: Phil <philwhite9@aol.com>
    Subject: Re: wire ties
    Rick: I happen to process sales reports for Panduit. Newark Electronics stocks the LHMS-S10. Phil White -10 kit for sale, 95% finished, near Chicago __________________________ On 11/1/2010 1:59 AM, Rick Lark wrote: "With regards to the lightening hole wire ties, I got lucky this morning and found them in the Panduit Co. web site.=C2- They are part # LHMS-S10, un der the "cable management accessories>wire management mounts used with cabl e ties>screws/rivet applied" part of the Panduit web site.=C2- I think th ey're pretty slick.=C2- Just gotta find out who stocks them.


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    Time: 01:22:26 PM PST US
    From: Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Plane Around... Door latch w/ flush handles question
    Hi Jay I have recently installed Sean's latches. I had bought retrofit racks hoping I could use the extra throw. As it turns out, in my case at least, the Iflyrv10 latches are the limiting factor. The 90 degree retrofit kit works quite well for me. 90 degrees gives the CAM a log of grip on the door sill. Cheers Les #40643 Sent from my iPhone On 2010-11-01, at 11:38 AM, jayb <jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Has anyone else retrofitted their flush doors to use Plane Around latches? > > My door have iflyrv flush door handles already installed... and working. > > I'd like to incorporate Plane Around center latches to get the doors to positively close every time: http://www.planearound.com/ > > The attached photo shows the back side of the flush handle workings. The aft push tube would appear to constrain extra throw as the linkage arm will limit its movement. > > That is, the total range of push tube motion will have to be the same - before and after adding the Plane Around center latch mechanism. This would seem to rule out use of the 180 degree retro kit. > > What have others done here? Would a 90 degree motion of the Plane Around center latch be sufficient? > > Thanks, > Jay > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=317778#317778 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/flush_204.jpg > > > > > > >


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    Time: 02:14:15 PM PST US
    From: "Geoff Combs" <g.combs@aerosportmodeling.com>
    Subject: Overhead consoles and headliners
    While on the subject. I would like to let everyone know that Aerosport Products will be taking orders for Our new fiberglass headliners within the next week. We have a few final details to work out. These headliners will be light weight fiberglass that you will need to do some simple trimming And fitting to install. They are designed to be held in with Velcro, rear bulk head cover, front Shoulder belt attach bolt and our interior side panels if you have but not necessary. It is designed To be covered with automotive headliner material which comes in many different colors. This is a thin foamed Back material the wraps the fiberglass piece very easily. You could also use a material of your choice. We will have a video on how to wrap your fiberglass parts once trimmed to fit. At this time this is designed Just to cover from the back of the door back. See photos. You will not need to have a overhead console To install. We will offer it as a one piece or 2 piece option for people without overhead consoles. It also Trims the window opening out very nice. This can be installed in flying aircraft as well. For more Information please contact Aerosport Products. Geoff Combs www.aerosportproducts.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Kraus Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 9:13 AM Subject: RV10-List: Overhead consoles and headliners --> <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net> Does anyone have any advice or ideas on the best way to finish out the inside of the canopy with a full length overhead console? I purchased headliner material from Airtex, but haven't experimented with it yet. I just see all the compound bends around the overhead console and see it as going to be tough. Painting sounds like the easiest way, but I think I'd like the soft feeling of cloth.... What have others done? Thanks -Mike Kraus Sent from my iPhone


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    Time: 03:06:53 PM PST US
    From: Scott Schmidt <scottmschmidt@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Oil Lines Worn
    During this years annual it was discovered that the baffle rod that pushes against the oil lines had worn a groove in two of them where the plastic bushing moved. Here are more pictures of it. Just a heads up to check during those oil changes. http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?p=481129#post481129 Like I mentioned in the thread, I think this occurred in the last 50-100 hours because I typically check this anytime the bottom cowling is off. I still need to thank Sean for seeing this. I had not checked the left side of the engine yet and he was helping change the oil and caught it. I would hope I would have seen when I inspected the left side but it is always nice to have another pair of eyes check stuff out. Scott Schmidt scottmschmidt@yahoo.com


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    Time: 03:47:23 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Oil Lines Worn
    You can minimize some of the problems on initial install by putting some goo d bends in the rods to get them to not want to rub much or at all. Then, al so get some RTV next to and on those nylon bushings and rub areas to keep th ings where you want them. The rods are kind of a pain, but by a little pre- work you may be able to minimize issues in the future. Anything that can rub anything else is a potential problem, so use RTV to ho ld things in place or prevent chafing. I've seen a spark plug wire rub most of the way through an AN oil fitting nut before (on another plane not one I owned), so even soft things can wear hard things. Tim On Nov 1, 2010, at 5:02 PM, Scott Schmidt <scottmschmidt@yahoo.com> wrote: > During this years annual it was discovered that the baffle rod that pushes against the oil lines had worn a groove in two of them where the plastic bu shing moved. > Here are more pictures of it. Just a heads up to check during those oil c hanges. > http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?p=481129#post481129 > > Like I mentioned in the thread, I think this occurred in the last 50-100 h ours because I typically check this anytime the bottom cowling is off. > I still need to thank Sean for seeing this. I had not checked the left si de of the engine yet and he was helping change the oil and caught it. I wou ld hope I would have seen when I inspected the left side but it is always ni ce to have another pair of eyes check stuff out. > > Scott Schmidt > scottmschmidt@yahoo.com > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== =========


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    Time: 03:54:10 PM PST US
    From: Patrick Pulis <rv10free2fly@yahoo.com.au>
    Subject: Re: Overhead consoles and headliners
    Geoff, great initiative.- Do you have a price for the headliners please? =0A=0ARegards=0A=0APatrick Pulis=0AAdelaide, South Australia=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A ________________________________=0AFrom: Geoff Combs <g.combs@aerosportmode ling.com>=0ATo: rv10-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Tue, 2 November, 2010 7:41: 02 AM=0ASubject: RE: RV10-List: Overhead consoles and headliners=0A=0AWhile on the subject.=0A=0AI would like to let everyone know that Aerosport Prod ucts will be taking=0Aorders for=0AOur new fiberglass headliners within the next week. We have a few final=0Adetails to work out.=0AThese headliners w ill be light weight fiberglass that you will need to do=0Asome simple trimm ing=0AAnd fitting to install. They are designed to be held in with Velcro, rear=0Abulk head cover, front=0AShoulder belt attach bolt and our interior side panels if you have but not=0Anecessary. It is designed =0ATo be covere d with automotive headliner material which comes in many=0Adifferent colors . This is a thin foamed=0ABack material the wraps the fiberglass piece very easily. You could also use=0Aa material of your choice.=0AWe will have a v ideo on how to wrap your fiberglass parts once trimmed to=0Afit. At this ti me this is designed =0AJust to cover from the back of the door back. See ph otos. You will not need=0Ato have a overhead console=0ATo install. We will offer it as a one piece or 2 piece option for people=0Awithout overhead con soles. It also =0ATrims the window opening out very nice. This can be insta lled in flying=0Aaircraft as well.- =0AFor more Information please contac t Aerosport Products.=0A=0AGeoff Combs=0Awww.aerosportproducts.com=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A=0A=0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom: owner-rv10-list-server@matro nics.com=0A[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Micha el Kraus=0ASent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 9:13 AM=0ATo: rv10-list@matroni cs.com=0ASubject: RV10-List: Overhead consoles and headliners=0A=0A=0A--> R V10-List message posted by: Michael Kraus =0A--> <n223rv@wolflakeairport.ne t>=0A=0ADoes anyone have any advice or ideas on the best way to finish out the=0Ainside of the canopy with a full length overhead console?- I purcha sed=0Aheadliner material from Airtex, but haven't experimented with it yet. - I=0Ajust see all the compound bends around the overhead console and see it as=0Agoing to be tough.- Painting sounds like the easiest way, but I think I'd=0Alike the soft feeling of cloth.... =0A=0AWhat have others done? =0AThanks=0A-Mike Kraus=0A=0ASent from my iPhone=0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 07:01:39 PM PST US
    From: Rick Lark <larkrv10@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: Re: wire ties
    Thx Phil.- Now I've got 2 sources.- Gotta love this list.......... Rick --- On Mon, 11/1/10, Phil <philwhite9@aol.com> wrote: From: Phil <philwhite9@aol.com> Subject: RV10-List: Re: wire ties Received: Monday, November 1, 2010, 7:23 PM Rick:--- I happen to process sales reports for Panduit.- Newark Ele ctronics stocks the LHMS-S10. Phil White -10 kit for sale, 95% finished, near Chicago __________________________ On 11/1/2010 1:59 AM,-- Rick Lark wrote: "With regards to the lightening hole wire ties, I got lucky this morning an d found them in the Panduit Co. web site.=C2- They are part # LHMS-S10, un der the "cable management accessories>wire management mounts used with cabl e ties>screws/rivet applied" part of the Panduit web site.=C2- I think th ey're pretty slick.=C2- Just gotta find out who stocks them. =0A=0A


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    Time: 07:48:14 PM PST US
    From: Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com>
    Subject: Re: Oil Lines Worn
    Most enlightening. I also found out something at the 160 hr point when I found oil inside of the cowling. Seems that new engines are prone to slowly begin leaking from the oil pan gasket over time if not re-tightened frequently. I had not re-tightened mine as they had torque putty on all of the bolts. The bolts did not loosen, the gasket actually weakened a bit over time. Moral of the story here......just like Scott, when the cowl is off, hand tighten each of these bolts (you can't get a torque wrench on them0. grumpy N184JM On Nov 1, 2010, at 5:02 PM, Scott Schmidt wrote: > During this years annual it was discovered that the baffle rod that > pushes against the oil lines had worn a groove in two of them where > the plastic bushing moved. > Here are more pictures of it. Just a heads up to check during those > oil changes. > http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?p=481129#post481129 > > Like I mentioned in the thread, I think this occurred in the last > 50-100 hours because I typically check this anytime the bottom > cowling is off. > I still need to thank Sean for seeing this. I had not checked the > left side of the engine yet and he was helping change the oil and > caught it. I would hope I would have seen when I inspected the left > side but it is always nice to have another pair of eyes check stuff > out. > > Scott Schmidt > scottmschmidt@yahoo.com > >




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