---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 11/05/10: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:15 AM - Reminder (Matt Dralle) 1. 02:45 AM - Re: door safety latch (Bob Leffler) 2. 04:36 AM - Re: The entire Swiss RV-10 builder population in one workshop (Michael Wellenzohn) 3. 08:42 PM - Tutrak PIREP (DLM) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:15:36 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RV10-List: Reminder Dear Listers, A quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser. The Matronics Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are provided for my your Contributions during this time of the year. Your personal Contribution makes a big difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free. Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:45:35 AM PST US From: "Bob Leffler" Subject: RE: RV10-List: door safety latch This makes me glad I installed Sean's latch. Sorry to hear about you incident, but as other's have already stated, this will help others from experiencing the same situation. bob From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Gleixner Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:50 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: door safety latch Chris, I installed the Van's latch to plans, and have about 80 hours with it. Its not hard to open from inside or outside, and the latch allows the door to stay open a little on hot days. The only concern I have to date is recently I got a little agressive on the runup with just the safety latch engaged, and the door flew open. With this happening on a ground runup with just the prop blast, I have serious doubts it would hold if the main latch failed in flight. I suspect the door would open just enough for the wind to grab it, flex it, and tear it off. Now its possible that my install is not exactly like others, but after that incident, I now assume the safety latch will be ineffective. I might start to feel a little better if there are a few real examples of this latch working in flight. If I had to do it again, I would bite the bullet and buy one of the 3rd party options being offered. Their secondary benefits are that there is just one handle to move in an emergency, and they suck the door tight prior to engaging the pins. Just my 2 cents. Aaron _____ From: Chris Hukill Sent: Thu, November 4, 2010 8:55:06 PM Subject: RV10-List: door safety latch Has anyone come up with a cool CNC machined replacement for the C1018 safety latch that Vans provides for the door service bulletin? Can I buy a couple? I also wonder why the latch is installed in the center of the door, instead of the front, near the handle. Maybe the idea is that the rear seat pax can reach it there, with an unconscious co-pilot after a wreck. But the forward location would allow the front seater to reach it without turning or reaching behind them during normal ops or an emergency. Also the fact that it is forward would maybe provide more security for it's designed function, that is keeping the door from opening and flying off the airplane. If the door is held in the center, due to the failure of the primary latches, it could flex quite a bit, and maybe catch the wind enough to tear off the airplane. If the safety latch is forward, then the small partial opening in the front should not allow the air to get behind the door, flex it, and create havoc. Anyone deviate from the plans? I'm getting ready to cut some holes, and would like a discussion on this. Doors are kicking my #!**? Chris Hukill www.======================= Month -- Gifts!) Raiser. Click on out more about Gifts provided ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:36:40 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: The entire Swiss RV-10 builder population in one workshop From: "Michael Wellenzohn" :D I gave up wearing my funny hat because it always came off working on the wiring under the panel [Wink] Cheers Michael -------- RV-10 builder (interior,avionics, wiring) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=318296#318296 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:42:27 PM PST US From: "DLM" Subject: RV10-List: Tutrak PIREP In September I posted some pictures. Tim noticed that my VSGV AP was showing a constant need for trim. I had not considered that the constant running might be a problem. I bought the TT Auto pitch trim module and temporarily wired it in. As it turned out the module only ran the servo one way. After checking voltages it was determined that the servo needed recalibration, especially the trim sense function. I removed that servo and sent to TT; they returned promptly and reinstalled today. When I removed the TT servo I told the AP pitch=no and assumed that I would need to turn it on when I replaced the servo. Apparently not. The servo and pitch trim unit somehow reset the pitch=no to pitch=yes without my intervention. 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