RV10-List Digest Archive

Wed 11/10/10


Total Messages Posted: 8



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     1. 03:55 AM - Re: Fuel pressure sender problem (carl.froehlich@verizon.net)
     2. 04:45 AM - Re: Fuel pressure sender problem (Kelly McMullen)
     3. 05:38 AM - Re: Fuel pressure sender problem (carl.froehlich@verizon.net)
     4. 05:41 AM - Re: Fuel pressure sender problem (David Maib)
     5. 06:27 AM - Re: Fuel pressure sender problem (Rene Felker)
     6. 06:38 AM - Re: Fuel pressure sender problem (DLM)
     7. 10:09 AM - Thanks-- fuel pressure sender problem (Sheldon Olesen)
     8. 04:36 PM - Re: door safety latch (Aaron Gleixner)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:55:32 AM PST US
    From: "carl.froehlich@verizon.net" <carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Fuel pressure sender problem
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    Time: 04:45:24 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fuel pressure sender problem
    From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
    Hmm, we have heard of problems with GRT EGT probes, now fuel pressure sending unit. Makes one wonder if GRT engine probes are up to the task. Are other EFIS vendor's probes more durable? On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 4:52 AM, carl.froehlich@verizon.net <carl.froehlich@verizon.net> wrote: > An identical problem with a friend's GRT install. His sending transducer > went bad. > > Assuming your wiring checks out, call the good folks at Grand Rapids and > order a new part. > > Carl > -----Original message----- > > From: Sheldon Olesen <saolesen@sirentel.net> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Sent: Wed, Nov 10, 2010 03:16:08 GMT+00:00 > Subject: RV10-List: Fuel pressure sender problem > > > While getting ready to land in IA after a trip to FL my fuel pressure went > up to 111. The FP went up about the time the time I hit the electric boost > pump. With the red lights flashing, the engine ran normally and an > uneventful landing was made.


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    Time: 05:38:00 AM PST US
    From: "carl.froehlich@verizon.net" <carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Fuel pressure sender problem
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    Time: 05:41:47 AM PST US
    From: David Maib <dmaib@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: Fuel pressure sender problem
    I had the identical problem about a year ago. Talked to Sandy at GRT and she said I needed a new fuel pressure transducer. That fixed the problem. She indicated that this was a fairly common issue. David Maib 40559 Flying On Nov 9, 2010, at 10:16 PM, Sheldon Olesen wrote: While getting ready to land in IA after a trip to FL my fuel pressure went up to 111. The FP went up about the time the time I hit the electric boost pump. With the red lights flashing, the engine ran normally and an uneventful landing was made. I thought that maybe a ground wire had become intermittent and that was the cause of the problem. During take-off the lights came back on and finally went out during the cruise portion of the flight to WI. The FP light did not come back on when I landed with the boost pump on at my home airport. I checked into the problem after I got home. The sender came with the GRT EIS. The ground wire is secure. The sender tests at 7 ohms with no pressure and around 720 ohms with the boost pump on. Does anyone have any insight as to what is going on with the fuel pressure? Is there a way the sender can become intermittent? Thanks, Sheldon Olesen N475PV 237 hours


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    Time: 06:27:09 AM PST US
    From: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com>
    Subject: Fuel pressure sender problem
    I had a similar problem.......I ordered a new sender, but it ended up being the ground wire. 130 hours, or so and no real probe problems for me. Rene' Felker N423CF 801-721-6080 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:42 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel pressure sender problem Hmm, we have heard of problems with GRT EGT probes, now fuel pressure sending unit. Makes one wonder if GRT engine probes are up to the task. Are other EFIS vendor's probes more durable? On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 4:52 AM, carl.froehlich@verizon.net <carl.froehlich@verizon.net> wrote: > An identical problem with a friend's GRT install. His sending transducer > went bad. > > Assuming your wiring checks out, call the good folks at Grand Rapids and > order a new part. > > Carl > -----Original message----- > > From: Sheldon Olesen <saolesen@sirentel.net> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Sent: Wed, Nov 10, 2010 03:16:08 GMT+00:00 > Subject: RV10-List: Fuel pressure sender problem > > > While getting ready to land in IA after a trip to FL my fuel pressure went > up to 111. The FP went up about the time the time I hit the electric boost > pump. With the red lights flashing, the engine ran normally and an > uneventful landing was made.


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    Time: 06:38:11 AM PST US
    From: "DLM" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Fuel pressure sender problem
    I switched to EI probes ( they claim 2000 hours); the problem with alternate probes seems to be that the GRT harness must be expended and even though using the same material the length changes the resistance and the probes register significantly different temperatures. After leaning I use the normalization function to monitor any changes. I have three extended leads and three /EGTs that differ by more than 150F difference from the others. They still peak at the same fuel flows but the peak temperatures are different. Prior to installing the EI EGT probes I had replaced 3 0r 4? GRT probes in less than 300 hours. So far the fuel/oil transducers and have functioned properly. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelly McMullen" <apilot2@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:42 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel pressure sender problem Hmm, we have heard of problems with GRT EGT probes, now fuel pressure sending unit. Makes one wonder if GRT engine probes are up to the task. Are other EFIS vendor's probes more durable? On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 4:52 AM, carl.froehlich@verizon.net <carl.froehlich@verizon.net> wrote: > An identical problem with a friend's GRT install. His sending transducer > went bad. > > Assuming your wiring checks out, call the good folks at Grand Rapids and > order a new part. > > Carl > -----Original message----- > > From: Sheldon Olesen <saolesen@sirentel.net> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Sent: Wed, Nov 10, 2010 03:16:08 GMT+00:00 > Subject: RV10-List: Fuel pressure sender problem > > > While getting ready to land in IA after a trip to FL my fuel pressure went > up to 111. The FP went up about the time the time I hit the electric boost > pump. With the red lights flashing, the engine ran normally and an > uneventful landing was made.


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    Time: 10:09:47 AM PST US
    From: Sheldon Olesen <saolesen@sirentel.net>
    Subject: Thanks-- fuel pressure sender problem
    Thanks to all who replied. I'll recheck my ground and then order a new sender. Sheldon Olesen N475PV


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    Time: 04:36:55 PM PST US
    From: Aaron Gleixner <aarongleixner@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: door safety latch
    I did not, but probably should.=C2- Van's is great, but in the past I've reported =0Aitems like this after seeing it on many other planes=C2-at Os h, only to be told its =0Athe first they are hearing of it.=C2-=C2- Whe n I search one of these sites, its =0Ausually a well documented problem.=C2 -=0A=0AAaron=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Gordo n Anderson <mregoan@hispeed.ch>=0ATo: rv10-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Sat, November 6, 2010 5:39:14 AM=0ASubject: RE: RV10-List: door safety latch=0A =0A=0AAaron,=0A=0AGood feedback.=C2- Can I ask if you reported the incide nt to Van=99s?=C2- =0A=C2-=0ACheers,=0A=C2-=0AGordon Anderson =0A#41015, starting tailcone, Lederhosenland =0A=C2-=0AFrom:owner-rv10-li st-server@matronics.com =0A[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Gleixner=0ASent: 05 November 2010 02:50=0ATo: rv10-list@ma tronics.com=0ASubject: Re: RV10-List: door safety latch=0A=C2-=0AChris, =0A=C2-=0AI installed the Van's latch to plans, and have=C2- about 80 h ours with it.=C2- Its not =0Ahard to open from inside or outside, and the latch allows the door to stay=C2-open =0Aa little on hot days.=C2- =0A =0A=C2-=0AThe only concern I have to date is recently I got a little agre ssive on the =0Arunup with just the safety latch engaged, and the door flew open.=C2- With this =0Ahappening on a ground runup with just the prop bl ast, I have serious doubts it =0Awould hold if the main latch failed in fli ght.=C2- I suspect the door would open =0Ajust enough for the wind to gra b it, flex it, and tear it off.=0A=C2-=0ANow its possible that my install is not exactly like others, but after that =0Aincident, I now assume the s afety latch will be ineffective.=C2- I might start to =0Afeel a little be tter if there are a few real examples of this latch working in =0Aflight. =0A=C2-=0AIf I had to do it again, I would bite the bullet and buy one of the 3rd party =0Aoptions being offered.=C2- Their secondary benefits=C2 -are that there is just one =0Ahandle to move in an emergency, and they s uck the door tight prior to engaging =0Athe pins.=0A=C2-=0AJust my 2 cent s.=0A=C2-=0AAaron=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=0A________________________________ =0A=0AFrom:Chris Hukill <cjhukill@cox.net>=0ATo: rv10-list@matronics.com=0A Sent: Thu, November 4, 2010 8:55:06 PM=0ASubject: RV10-List: door safety la tch=0AHas anyone come up with a cool CNC machined replacement for the C1018 safety =0Alatch that Vans provides for the door service bulletin? =0A=0ACa n I buy a couple?=0AI also wonder why the latch is installed in the center of the door, instead of =0Athe front, near the handle. Maybe the idea is th at the rear seat pax can reach =0Ait there, with an unconscious co-pilot af ter a wreck.=C2-But the =0Aforward=C2-location=C2-=C2-would allow t he=C2-front seater to reach it without turning or =0Areaching behind them =C2-during normal ops or an emergency.=0AAlso the fact that it is forward would maybe provide more security for it's =0Adesigned function, that is k eeping the door from opening and flying off the =0Aairplane. If the door is held in the center,=C2-due=C2-to the failure of the primary =0Alatches , it could flex quite a bit,=C2-=C2-and maybe catch the wind enough to tear off =0Athe airplane. If the safety latch is forward, then the=C2-=C2 -small partial opening in =0Athe front should not allow the air to get be hind the door, flex it, and create =0Ahavoc.=0AAnyone deviate from the plan s? I'm getting ready to cut some holes, and would =0Alike a discussion on t his.=0A=C2-=0ADoors=C2-are kicking my #!**?=0AChris Hukill=0Awww.== ======================0A=C2-=0A =C2-=0Awww.aeroelectric.com=0Awww.buildersbooks.com=0Awww.homebuilthelp.c om=0Ahttp://www.matronics.com/contribution=0Ahttp://www.matronics.com/Navig ==================== =0A




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