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0. 12:05 AM - Please Make A Contribution... (Matt Dralle)
1. 09:20 AM - Re: X Country Questions (Jesse Saint)
2. 10:48 AM - Re: X Country Questions (Dave Saylor)
3. 12:36 PM - Re: Door Strut Update (gary)
4. 02:36 PM - iPad bracket (Robin Marks)
5. 03:02 PM - Re: Door Strut Update (Robert Brunkenhoefer)
6. 05:12 PM - Re: Door Strut Update (g.combs)
7. 05:58 PM - This plane is for the dogs. (Robin Marks)
8. 09:23 PM - Wheel pant spacer replacements (Strasnuts)
9. 09:32 PM - Moved the plane! (Strasnuts)
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| Subject: | Re: X Country Questions |
I think the only consensus you'll find on this list is that the RV-10 is a great
plane. Beyond that, there are differing opinions on every option.
Personally, I like the Garmin Aera for weather because I can take it with me in
whatever plane I fly, but that might not fit you.
Personally, I like flying high and using oxygen, but I also like flying at or lean
of peak at high altitudes. I've seen tas of 160 kits burning under 9 gph
at 16k+.
Personally, I like the portable SkyOx system because it's inexpensive & I only
have to take it when I expect to use it. I can easily pull it out & refill it
from our welding tanks in the shop.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
www.mavericklsa.com
C: 352-427-0285
O: 352-465-4545
F: 815-377-3694
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 12, 2010, at 9:46 PM, <jfrjr@roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
> Just completed a Maine to California trip in the 10. What a wonderful long range
machine!! But, as usual, the flight generated a few questions:
> 1) Regardless of height (6500 up to 12500) the plane seemed to "like" 2100rpm
and MAPs at 22-23 the best. Increasing RPM or MAPs (at lower altitudes) would
only gain a few knots increase but a greatly increased fuel flow. The 2100/22.5
settings gave me fuel flows in the low 11s down to low 9s depending on altitude.
Throughout the altitudes TAS was always between 151 and 156. I always
ran 100ROP. Are these numbers what others are seeing on long flights?
> 2) I have the butterfly control air flow for the after market oil cooler. In
order to keep the oil temp at 180 I ALWAYS have to keep the valve at least partially
closed even on long climb outs. The temps in Maine (and on the X country
flight) are usually cool but even on day with OATs in the 70s I still can't
open the valve all the way. (I have checked my oil temp gauge--by using my wife's
high priced electronic candy thermometer probe (please don't tell)---and
it is spot on.) So two questions: a) Are other people experiencing these seemingly
low temps? and b) When one is on a long flight is it okay, or even better
for the engine, to have oil temps down in the 160s?
> 3) The flight confirmed the fact that I need XM weather. Had to do two unscheduled
stops because of what I saw out front but couldn't be seen by Flight Service.
I had an IPAD with Foreflight and SkyCharts which were wonderful for situational
awareness and planning but, of course, no weather. I have a two screen
GRT setup with a 430W. What are my options for XM? Should I wait until
ABSD is implemented? Will there be an XM APP for the IPAD? Or should I go ahead
and get the very expensive GRT weather receiver?
> 4) The flight also confirmed that I need oxygen and a system that will be a permanent
part of the equipment. Although I didn't go above 14K there was one
occasion that a level of 16500 would have let me go straight instead of a wide
detour. Does anyone have "numbers" (rpm,ff,etc) at these higher altitudes?
And is there a consensus on the type of oxygen system to install?
> As always, thanks for the help/advice. Jay Rowe
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: X Country Questions |
Jay,
That airspeed seems about right for the power setting.
I have to admit I don't keep close track anymore, but I'd be surprised
to see a TAS below 157. I flight plan for 160 at 10GPH on longer,
higher trips. Above 8500' I usually run wide open for what ever MAP
that gives me and set the prop between 2200 and 2300. Then I lean
until it runs as rough as I can stand (not very), and that gets me
160-162 KTAS on 10.5 GPH, with less fuel as I go higher. My engine
doesn't go terribly lean of peak and I haven't balanced the injectors.
I've seen it below 9 GPH above 15000'. TAS drops off a little, maybe
4-5 knots up that high.
For oil temp, you want it to get close to 200 at least for a little
while during each flight, to drive off condensation. 160 is pretty
low but it doesn't seem like you've seen even moderately high OATs
yet.
You're right, you need weather. It's a game changer. I think XM is
great but ADSB looks pretty good too.
I never thought I'd use oxygen but it really allows you to use a ton
more of the plane's potential.
Where are you in CA?
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 6:46 PM, <jfrjr@roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
> Just completed a Maine to California trip in the 10. What a wonderful long range
machine!! But, as usual, the flight generated a few questions:
> 1) Regardless of height (6500 up to 12500) the plane seemed to "like" 2100rpm
and MAPs at 22-23 the best. Increasing RPM or MAPs (at lower altitudes) would
only gain a few knots increase but a greatly increased fuel flow. The 2100/22.5
settings gave me fuel flows in the low 11s down to low 9s depending on altitude.
Throughout the altitudes TAS was always between 151 and 156. I always ran
100ROP. Are these numbers what others are seeing on long flights?
> 2) I have the butterfly control air flow for the after market oil cooler. In
order to keep the oil temp at 180 I ALWAYS have to keep the valve at least partially
closed even on long climb outs. The temps in Maine (and on the X country
flight) are usually cool but even on day with OATs in the 70s I still can't
open the valve all the way. (I have checked my oil temp gauge--by using my wife's
high priced electronic candy thermometer probe (please don't tell)---and it
is spot on.) So two questions: a) Are other people experiencing these seemingly
low temps? and b) When one is on a long flight is it okay, or even better
for the engine, to have oil temps down in the 160s?
> 3) The flight confirmed the fact that I need XM weather. Had to do two unscheduled
stops because of what I saw out front but couldn't be seen by Flight Service.
I had an IPAD with Foreflight and SkyCharts which were wonderful for situational
awareness and planning but, of course, no weather. I have a two screen
GRT setup with a 430W. What are my options for XM? Should I wait until ABSD
is implemented? Will there be an XM APP for the IPAD? Or should I go ahead and
get the very expensive GRT weather receiver?
> 4) The flight also confirmed that I need oxygen and a system that will be a permanent
part of the equipment. Although I didn't go above 14K there was one occasion
that a level of 16500 would have let me go straight instead of a wide
detour. Does anyone have "numbers" (rpm,ff,etc) at these higher altitudes? And
is there a consensus on the type of oxygen system to install?
> As always, thanks for the help/advice. Jay Rowe
>
>
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| Subject: | Door Strut Update |
I ordered a set. No hassle works great. Thanks
Gary Specketer
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Marz
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 2:13 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Door Strut Update
I found a Gas Strut with the same specs as the Stabllus 2218LP (600
newton pressure) that is a drop in fit to the original strut from
Van's. Bansbach Easylift in Melbourne FL, www.easylift.com, tel.
800-225-4498 and they stock them. Item code 10017y1; p/n
A1A1F50-100-287/600N at $62.00 each. I have installed them and they
work great. Hope they last longer than Van's original ones. Blue Skys
Barry
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I doubt this would work in an airplane due to turbulence driving down the
iPad but in theory this mounted to the top of the canopy would allow of
excellent positioning to review content and then swing away when not in use
.
Robin
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Description
What luxury to have cabinet-mounted iPad! What luxury to have an iPad at
all, really. At $70 (plus the cost of an iPad) lazy recipe-readers could
have one under every cupboard in the kitchen. Sign me up for 10.
Griffin's cabinet mount dock is probably not intended for holding an iPad
permanently, but I like to imagine people will have one in the kitchen, the
garage and even the bathroom. Stuff prising it out of the brackets every
time you want to use it, right? Amirite?
The mount's arm rotates by 360-degrees, and the whole 'pad can move
90-degrees so it aligns flush under a cupboard, and then can be pulled out
when in use. In the US it's $70, and in the UK it's =A350, available now. [
Griffin <http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/cabinet-mount-ipad>]
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| Subject: | Re: Door Strut Update |
Vans has a HD model of the gas strut for the same price that is thestabilus 2218lp.
I just ordered one. Regards, Robert
Robert Brunkenhoefer
Sent from my Apple iPad
On Nov 13, 2010, at 2:29 PM, gary <speckter@comcast.net> wrote:
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> I ordered a set. No hassle works great. Thanks
>
> Gary Specketer
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Marz
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 2:13 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Door Strut Update
>
>
> I found a Gas Strut with the same specs as the Stabllus 2218LP (600
> newton pressure) that is a drop in fit to the original strut from
> Van's. Bansbach Easylift in Melbourne FL, www.easylift.com, tel.
> 800-225-4498 and they stock them. Item code 10017y1; p/n
> A1A1F50-100-287/600N at $62.00 each. I have installed them and they
> work great. Hope they last longer than Van's original ones. Blue Skys
> Barry
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| Subject: | Re: Door Strut Update |
I have 2 of the Van's heavy duty struts.
One works fine it is I a little quick going up but not bad. The other one you have
to watch because it snaps up
Very quickly from 90 degrees up. It seems the dampening in that strut is
Bad. It has been that way since new.
If you opened the door and forgot to
Slow it down if the wind caught it going
Up that could be bad. I feel if that happened it could damage the door
Where hinges mount.
I do like the heavy duty hinges even though one of mine is a little squirly. I
have that On pilot door.
Geoff
Sent from my iPhone Geoff
On Nov 13, 2010, at 5:59 PM, Robert Brunkenhoefer <robertbrunk@me.com> wrote:
>
> Vans has a HD model of the gas strut for the same price that is thestabilus 2218lp.
I just ordered one. Regards, Robert
>
> Robert Brunkenhoefer
> Sent from my Apple iPad
>
> On Nov 13, 2010, at 2:29 PM, gary <speckter@comcast.net> wrote:
>
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>> I ordered a set. No hassle works great. Thanks
>>
>> Gary Specketer
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Marz
>> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 2:13 PM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RV10-List: Door Strut Update
>>
>>
>> I found a Gas Strut with the same specs as the Stabllus 2218LP (600
>> newton pressure) that is a drop in fit to the original strut from
>> Van's. Bansbach Easylift in Melbourne FL, www.easylift.com, tel.
>> 800-225-4498 and they stock them. Item code 10017y1; p/n
>> A1A1F50-100-287/600N at $62.00 each. I have installed them and they
>> work great. Hope they last longer than Van's original ones. Blue Skys
>> Barry
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| Subject: | This plane is for the dogs. |
Major relocation for my family this month. A real Planes, Trains and
Automobile kind of day. My wife and daughter flew off the Atlanta for 28
days. NO! not rehab. We shipped my mother-in-law back to SLO on the train
(baggage class) and I flew the luggage and dogs out on a late afternoon
flight as the sun turning the corner towards Hawaii. Sorry no XM music for
the hounds.
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Abby
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Boo
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Santa Barbara in the foreground.
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It often goes without saying but=85 Keep building it is worth it.
Robin
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| Subject: | Wheel pant spacer replacements |
I decided to make them for me after Tim's write-up. It was good timing since I
could easily switch mine out and not wait until they wear out. I put them on
PlaneAround.com if anyone is interested in this model. They are one piece.
You have to take the axle bolt out to install them but it took me about ten minutes
to switch them out.
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RV-10 SB Fuselage
N801VR reserved
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| Subject: | Moved the plane! |
The weather was good enough to move the plane today. It is at Scott's hangar safe
and sound. It went a lot smoother than I imagined it would.
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RV-10 SB Fuselage
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