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0. 12:23 AM - Just A Few More Days To Make Your List Contribution... (Matt Dralle)
1. 04:38 AM - RV-10 Paint Costs (Michael Kraus)
2. 06:37 AM - Re: paint weight? (Richard Martin)
3. 06:37 AM - Re: RV-10 Paint Costs (Danny Riggs)
4. 06:44 AM - Re: RV-10 Paint Costs (johngoodman)
5. 07:03 AM - VOR/GS/LOC antenna mount (Eric_Kallio)
6. 07:09 AM - Re: RV-10 Paint Costs (Don McDonald)
7. 07:14 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 Paint Costs (Danny Riggs)
8. 07:38 AM - GPS antenna location (Kelly McMullen)
9. 07:51 AM - Re: GPS antenna location (Ralph E. Capen)
10. 07:55 AM - Re: Wing Skins Seam (rv10flyer)
11. 08:02 AM - Re: VOR/GS/LOC antenna mount (Tim Olson)
12. 08:07 AM - Re: GPS antenna location (Linn Walters)
13. 08:08 AM - Re: VOR/GS/LOC antenna mount (Linn Walters)
14. 08:24 AM - Re: GPS antenna location (Kelly McMullen)
15. 08:36 AM - Re: GPS antenna location (Pascal)
16. 08:36 AM - Re: GPS antenna location (Linn Walters)
17. 11:41 AM - Re: GPS antenna location (Bill Watson)
18. 03:02 PM - Re: RV-10 Paint Costs (DLM)
19. 03:05 PM - Re: VOR/GS/LOC antenna mount (DLM)
20. 03:11 PM - Re: RV-10 Paint Costs (DLM)
21. 03:34 PM - Re: RV-10 Paint Costs (Robin Marks)
22. 03:49 PM - Re: VOR/GS/LOC antenna mount (n801bh@netzero.com)
23. 04:01 PM - Re: RV-10 Paint Costs (John Cumins)
24. 04:44 PM - Re: RV-10 Paint Costs (Jerry Calvert)
25. 04:44 PM - Re: VOR/GS/LOC antenna mount (davidsoutpost@comcast.net)
26. 05:08 PM - Re: RV-10 Paint Costs (n801bh@netzero.com)
27. 05:20 PM - Re: VOR/GS/LOC antenna mount (Eric_Kallio)
28. 06:34 PM - Re: Transition Training LODA (rvdave)
29. 06:36 PM - Re: Re: VOR/GS/LOC antenna mount (carl.froehlich@verizon.net)
30. 06:45 PM - Re: VOR/GS/LOC antenna mount (Rick Lark)
31. 06:45 PM - Re: Re: VOR/GS/LOC antenna mount (Rick Lark)
32. 07:35 PM - Re: Re: VOR/GS/LOC antenna mount (Robin Marks)
33. 07:42 PM - Re: Re: Transition Training LODA (Rene)
34. 08:42 PM - Re: Re: Transition Training LODA (Tim Olson)
35. 08:42 PM - Re: Re: VOR/GS/LOC antenna mount (Tim Olson)
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| Subject: | Just A Few More Days To Make Your List Contribution... |
There is less than a week left in this year's List Fund Raiser and only a few short
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| Subject: | RV-10 Paint Costs |
I was curious how much I should plan for paint costs. My plan would be for me
to do most the glass work, but to hire out the prime/painting. I'm planning a
3 color scheme - white/blue/silver. Thanks
-Mike
Sent from my iPhone
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| Subject: | Re: paint weight? |
A rule of thumb on aircraft paint jobs is 20 to 35 pounds depending on the
paint scheme, color, or colors and the dexterity of the applicator. On a
metal airplane, if you cannot see the faint outline of the rivits, you have
to much paint. Suggest you look at other paint jobs done by the painter you
choose before signing on the bottom line. Aircraft paint such as Randolph or
Stits will result in less weight added, and is more flexible than auto
paints.
If you want to learn how to paint, a high pressure gun will give you a
lighter film of paint than a HVLP gun. Good luck.
Dick Martin
RV8 N233M
the fast one
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Dawson-Townsend,Timothy <
tdawson-townsend@aurora.aero> wrote:
> Anyone got a feel for how much weight the average paint job adds to an
> RV-10?
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> TDT
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> Tim Dawson-Townsend
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> RV-10 N52KS (http://aprs.fi/?call=n52ks)
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> tdt@aurora.aero
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> 617-500-4812 (office)
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> 617-905-4800 (mobile)
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> [image: smaller flight]
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| Subject: | RV-10 Paint Costs |
Mike=2C
The prices for paint really vary all over the landscape. I've seen lows aro
und $6500 to upwards of $15000 depending on how ready to paint the bird is
and what kind of paint you use. I chose to do it myself as it was something
I have always wanted to master. I used poly urethane (basically Imron) and
the paint costs alone have been about $5000. It's taken six months of part
time work. Using auto type paint would be cheaper as my friend has done hi
s -7 for about $2800 not including the labor to shoot it. Another had his 1
82 repainted and they charged $6700 but it looks a bit sketchy. Dan
> Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 Paint Costs
> From: n223rv@wolflakeairport.net
> Date: Wed=2C 24 Nov 2010 07:21:22 -0500
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
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> I was curious how much I should plan for paint costs. My plan would be f
or me to do most the glass work=2C but to hire out the prime/painting. I'm
planning a 3 color scheme - white/blue/silver. Thanks
> -Mike
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> Sent from my iPhone
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 Paint Costs |
My paint cost over $4000, but I had lots of colors. I don't see how you could do
it for less than $1500...
Or are you talking about the painter?
John
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#40572 Painted and the wings are on.
N711JG reserved
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| Subject: | VOR/GS/LOC antenna mount |
Getting ready to mount the cat whisker type LOC antenna as one of the ever shrinking
list of things to finish before inspection. Because I didn't plan ahead
when building the VS I am going to mount the antenna under the tail. Anyone have
pics of how they did their mount. particularly what you did for a doubler and
nutplates. No need to reinvent the wheel if there is already a good solution
out there.
Eric Kallio
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=320801#320801
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 Paint Costs |
Mike, you probably would get better info if you provide your location.- K
racon, in Lincoln Calif, is one of the best deals out there.- I had my 10
painted there for under 8k with some fiberglass work.- Since then (8-200
9) there has been at least 4 other RV's done there.- Glo Custom, in the F
t. Worth area, is really busy, and a 10 will cost between 10k and12k.
Don McDonald
--- On Wed, 11/24/10, Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net> wrote:
From: Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 Paint Costs
I was curious how much I should plan for paint costs.- My plan would be f
or me to do most the glass work, but to hire out the prime/painting.- I'm
planning a 3 color scheme - white/blue/silver.- Thanks
-Mike
Sent from my iPhone
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 Paint Costs |
I was referring to commercial paint jobs. paint only is gonna cost about $
2000 to $5000. This depends heavily on the type of paint.
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 Paint Costs
> From: johngoodman@earthlink.net
> Date: Wed=2C 24 Nov 2010 06:41:58 -0800
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
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> My paint cost over $4000=2C but I had lots of colors. I don't see how you
could do it for less than $1500...
> Or are you talking about the painter?
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> John
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| Subject: | GPS antenna location |
Has anyone mounted their GPS antenna(s) underneath the cabin cover,
say inside an overhead console? Is there any reason the cabin cover
fiberglass would not be transparent to GPS signals? Given that Vans
mostly implies the cover is structural and discourages drilling beyond
what the plans call for, I'd rather put antenna on underside than
drill holes for coax and mounting. Not to mention avoiding the drag
and appearance of extra protrusions. Figuring will have minimum of
430W, EFIS independent GPS, and possibly ADS-B GPS antennas.
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| Subject: | Re: GPS antenna location |
Not underneath a cabin cover - but inside the engine cowl...with fresh (non-metallic)
paint on it. Still works fine.
Mine's a Garmin 420W...
-----Original Message-----
>From: Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com>
>Sent: Nov 24, 2010 10:32 AM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV10-List: GPS antenna location
>
>
>Has anyone mounted their GPS antenna(s) underneath the cabin cover,
>say inside an overhead console? Is there any reason the cabin cover
>fiberglass would not be transparent to GPS signals? Given that Vans
>mostly implies the cover is structural and discourages drilling beyond
>what the plans call for, I'd rather put antenna on underside than
>drill holes for coax and mounting. Not to mention avoiding the drag
>and appearance of extra protrusions. Figuring will have minimum of
>430W, EFIS independent GPS, and possibly ADS-B GPS antennas.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Skins Seam |
Followed the plans and it turned out ok.
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Wayne Gillispie, A&P 5/93, PPC 10/08
Grayson, KY Bldr# 40983
Ord complete kit 8/24/09; DB Sch del 11/20/09
Emp 12/01/09-3/14/10 332 hrs
Wings 3/14/10-9/18/10 360 hrs
Fuselage 9/21/10-
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| Subject: | Re: VOR/GS/LOC antenna mount |
It's way easier than you'd think....just look down into
the tail from above by the HS, find a good spot
in the middle, and make a doubler that fits. There
aren't that many locations down there where you can put it,
with seams and all, so the right spot will be obvious.
It'll be completely underneath the HS then, and
pretty well protected.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
On 11/24/2010 9:00 AM, Eric_Kallio wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Eric_Kallio"<scout019@msn.com>
>
> Getting ready to mount the cat whisker type LOC antenna as one of the ever shrinking
list of things to finish before inspection. Because I didn't plan ahead
when building the VS I am going to mount the antenna under the tail. Anyone
have pics of how they did their mount. particularly what you did for a doubler
and nutplates. No need to reinvent the wheel if there is already a good solution
out there.
>
> Eric Kallio
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=320801#320801
>
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| Subject: | Re: GPS antenna location |
I agree that under the cowl is better than under the cabin top only
because of the thickness of the cabin top. FG isn't really transparent
to the GPS signal, and the thicker the FG, the more degradation of the
GPS signal. The heat under the cowl is also a consideration, but the
heat under the cabin top will probably get as high in direct sunlight,
depending on the color paint used. So far I'm planning on putting my
GPS antenna under the cabin top too, inside my fresh air plenum. That
is until I get feedback from those that had problems with it there.
Linn
Y'all have a great Thanksgiving tomorrow!!!!
On 11/24/2010 10:48 AM, Ralph E. Capen wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen"<recapen@earthlink.net>
>
> Not underneath a cabin cover - but inside the engine cowl...with fresh (non-metallic)
paint on it. Still works fine.
>
> Mine's a Garmin 420W...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kelly McMullen<apilot2@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Nov 24, 2010 10:32 AM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RV10-List: GPS antenna location
>>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen<apilot2@gmail.com>
>>
>> Has anyone mounted their GPS antenna(s) underneath the cabin cover,
>> say inside an overhead console? Is there any reason the cabin cover
>> fiberglass would not be transparent to GPS signals? Given that Vans
>> mostly implies the cover is structural and discourages drilling beyond
>> what the plans call for, I'd rather put antenna on underside than
>> drill holes for coax and mounting. Not to mention avoiding the drag
>> and appearance of extra protrusions. Figuring will have minimum of
>> 430W, EFIS independent GPS, and possibly ADS-B GPS antennas.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: VOR/GS/LOC antenna mount |
On 11/24/2010 10:16 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
> It's way easier than you'd think....just look down into
> the tail from above by the HS, find a good spot
> in the middle, and make a doubler that fits. There
> aren't that many locations down there where you can put it,
> with seams and all, so the right spot will be obvious.
> It'll be completely underneath the HS then, and
> pretty well protected.
And you don't care if the birds perch on it under there!!!!!
Linn
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
>
>
> On 11/24/2010 9:00 AM, Eric_Kallio wrote:
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Eric_Kallio"<scout019@msn.com>
>>
>> Getting ready to mount the cat whisker type LOC antenna as one of the
>> ever shrinking list of things to finish before inspection. Because I
>> didn't plan ahead when building the VS I am going to mount the
>> antenna under the tail. Anyone have pics of how they did their mount.
>> particularly what you did for a doubler and nutplates. No need to
>> reinvent the wheel if there is already a good solution out there.
>>
>> Eric Kallio
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=320801#320801
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: GPS antenna location |
Yes, that is exactly what I have in mind. Just trying to get all the
planning for what will/won't go inside the lovely carbon fiber
overhead console before permanently glassing the console in place.
Really want to minimize external antennas. Current plane looks like
porcupine with 2 comms, loran Elt,VOR, stormscope, Adf and transp ants
sticking out everywhere.,
Remember, keep your base empty wt under control on T-day. Allegedly
easier than controlling wt of what is attached to plane.
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
So far I'm planning on putting my GPS antenna under the cabin
> top too, inside my fresh air plenum. That is until I get feedback from
> those that had problems with it there.
> Linn
> Y'all have a great Thanksgiving tomorrow!!!!
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| Subject: | Re: GPS antenna location |
I grabbed a GPS and put it under the cabin cover, received a reception just
fine, so I put my antenna inside/above a self made overhead console that
will sit right over the area where the front seats are.
The antenna is easy enough to move if it does not work. I don't like the
idea of the excessive heat from the engine area, may not be an issue for the
antenna but I know of a couple of times my (car) gps did not work due to
being overheated sitting in the trunk one summer, so that tells me it cant
be a good thing having all the heat over any items that don't need to be in
the engine area(aka designed for that location)
Pascal
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Kelly McMullen" <apilot2@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 7:32 AM
Subject: RV10-List: GPS antenna location
>
> Has anyone mounted their GPS antenna(s) underneath the cabin cover,
> say inside an overhead console? Is there any reason the cabin cover
> fiberglass would not be transparent to GPS signals? Given that Vans
> mostly implies the cover is structural and discourages drilling beyond
> what the plans call for, I'd rather put antenna on underside than
> drill holes for coax and mounting. Not to mention avoiding the drag
> and appearance of extra protrusions. Figuring will have minimum of
> 430W, EFIS independent GPS, and possibly ADS-B GPS antennas.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: GPS antenna location |
On 11/24/2010 11:22 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen<apilot2@gmail.com>
>
> Yes, that is exactly what I have in mind. Just trying to get all the
> planning for what will/won't go inside the lovely carbon fiber
> overhead console before permanently glassing the console in place.
I'm not convinced that glassing the overhead console in place is a good
idea. I realize that you have access panels in the CF OH consoles, but
you never know what's going to occur down the road (airway??? ;-) ). My
OH console will not have an access cover so I plan on embedding nuts in
the cabin top so I can put screws in to hold the OH console up. I had
also thought of using silicone to mount the OH console .... and haven't
tossed the idea out just yet. Anyone have comments????
Linn
> Really want to minimize external antennas. Current plane looks like
> porcupine with 2 comms, loran Elt,VOR, stormscope, Adf and transp ants
> sticking out everywhere.,
> Remember, keep your base empty wt under control on T-day. Allegedly
> easier than controlling wt of what is attached to plane.
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| Subject: | Re: GPS antenna location |
I decided to optimize the mounting of the 430W antenna according to the
best avionics advice I could find. The installation manual being first
and and avionics shop owner second (Bill Betts, SparkChasers, KJNX). My
thinking was 1) every source of advice has a bias 2) the performance of
the 430W WAAS GPS being most important to me, 3) follow the avionics
invested parties advice. So it's mounted on top of the cabin, right in
the middle, far away from any possible interference, holes thru the
cabin top, stuck out in the airstream.
The are 3 or 4 other GPS antenna involved. Here I just tried to find
good locations that should perform satisfactorily, provide easy
installation/maintenance and be aesthetically pleasing. So 2 are
mounted along upper rim of the windshield - a location that's worked
well on my Maule. 1 or 2 are going to be velcroed to the glare shield.
No holes, nothing sticking out, nothing being visually unpleasant.
Not flying so can't say how this will all work out.
Bill "applying high performance Dupont industrial coatings" Watson
On 11/24/2010 10:32 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen<apilot2@gmail.com>
>
> Has anyone mounted their GPS antenna(s) underneath the cabin cover,
> say inside an overhead console? Is there any reason the cabin cover
> fiberglass would not be transparent to GPS signals? Given that Vans
> mostly implies the cover is structural and discourages drilling beyond
> what the plans call for, I'd rather put antenna on underside than
> drill holes for coax and mounting. Not to mention avoiding the drag
> and appearance of extra protrusions. Figuring will have minimum of
> 430W, EFIS independent GPS, and possibly ADS-B GPS antennas.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 Paint Costs |
location is important. AZ paint shops wanted 9500-12000. Mine was
painted at Mena AR . Three paint shops on the field. Crider Goodner did
mine. Price for Matterhorn White with Maroon trim (forgot the paint
brand) was $4500. I spent about $1500 extra on the trip there and VFR
(visiting friends and relatives. rental car and food for kids and
grandkids for 2 weeks while it was painted. Figure about $6000.
----- Original Message -----
From: Don McDonald
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Paint Costs
Mike, you probably would get better info if you provide your
location. Kracon, in Lincoln Calif, is one of the best deals out there.
I had my 10 painted there for under 8k with some fiberglass work.
Since then (8-2009) there has been at least 4 other RV's done there.
Glo Custom, in the Ft. Worth area, is really busy, and a 10 will cost
between 10k and12k.
Don McDonald
--- On Wed, 11/24/10, Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
wrote:
From: Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 Paint Costs
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Date: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 4:21 AM
<n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
I was curious how much I should plan for paint costs. My plan
would be for me to do most the glass work, but to hire out the
prime/painting. I'm planning a 3 color scheme - white/blue/sil=
this year's Terrific Free Incentive Gifts nbsp; -->
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| Subject: | Re: VOR/GS/LOC antenna mount |
The main reason to not mount under the tail is the antenna in eye
problem for any little people around the aircraft.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric_Kallio" <scout019@msn.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 8:00 AM
Subject: RV10-List: VOR/GS/LOC antenna mount
>
> Getting ready to mount the cat whisker type LOC antenna as one of the
ever shrinking list of things to finish before inspection. Because I
didn't plan ahead when building the VS I am going to mount the antenna
under the tail. Anyone have pics of how they did their mount.
particularly what you did for a doubler and nutplates. No need to
reinvent the wheel if there is already a good solution out there.
>
> Eric Kallio
>
>
>
>
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I checked the logbook and my paint was AXZO-Nobel Alumigrip and Sherman
Williams JET-GLO
----- Original Message -----
From: Danny Riggs
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 7:28 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV-10 Paint Costs
Mike,
The prices for paint really vary all over the landscape. I've seen
lows around $6500 to upwards of $15000 depending on how ready to paint
the bird is and what kind of paint you use. I chose to do it myself as
it was something I have always wanted to master. I used poly urethane
(basically Imron) and the paint costs alone have been about $5000. It's
taken six months of part time work. Using auto type paint would be
cheaper as my friend has done his -7 for about $2800 not including the
labor to shoot it. Another had his 182 repainted and they charged $6700
but it looks a bit sketchy. Dan
> Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 Paint Costs
> From: n223rv@wolflakeairport.net
> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 07:21:22 -0500
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
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> I was curious how much I should plan for paint costs. My plan would
be for me to do most the glass work, but to hire out the prime/painting.
I'm planning a 3 color scheme - white/blue/silver. Thanks
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I also had mine painted in Mena AR. The end result is a very good paint job
for $8,500 BUT took about 6 months to complete. 6 months where I was paying
flight insurance, hangar etc=85 And that is only the beginning of the story
. I
will be painting my 8A a little closer to home next time where I can review
the progress and kick someone=92s empennage if need be.
Robin
*From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *DLM
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 24, 2010 2:59 PM
*To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
*Subject:* Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Paint Costs
location is important. AZ paint shops wanted 9500-12000. Mine was painted a
t
Mena AR . Three paint shops on the field. Crider Goodner did mine. Price fo
r
Matterhorn White with Maroon trim (forgot the paint brand) was $4500. I
spent about $1500 extra on the trip there and VFR (visiting friends and
relatives. rental car and food for kids and grandkids for 2 weeks while it
was painted. Figure about $6000.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Don McDonald <building_partner@yahoo.com>
*To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 24, 2010 7:47 AM
*Subject:* Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Paint Costs
Mike, you probably would get better info if you provide your location.
Kracon, in Lincoln Calif, is one of the best deals out there. I had my 10
painted there for under 8k with some fiberglass work. Since then (8-2009)
there has been at least 4 other RV's done there. Glo Custom, in the Ft.
Worth area, is really busy, and a 10 will cost between 10k and12k.
Don McDonald
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I have been to enought airshows/flyins etc where the general public have
access to my experimental and kids that small without supervision will
use the antenna as a chin up bar and pull it off the plane. If they are
dumb enough to happen to poke themselves in the eye then the PARENTS are
at fault. And me of course for providing a play toy for ill behaved kid
s. Keep in mind when flying ALL VOR stations are below you and so are al
l the transmitting ATC radio stations. It just makes sense to mount thos
e antennes on the bottom of the aircraft............ Just my humble opin
ion.
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
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From: "DLM" <dlm46007@cox.net>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: VOR/GS/LOC antenna mount
The main reason to not mount under the tail is the antenna in eye proble
m for any little people around the aircraft. ----- Original Message ----
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> Getting ready to mount the cat whisker type LOC antenna as one of the
ever shrinking list of things to finish before inspection. Because I did
n't plan ahead when building the VS I am going to mount the antenna unde
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hat you did for a doubler and nutplates. No need to reinvent the wheel i
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| Subject: | RV-10 Paint Costs |
I HAD MY Cardinal painted at Texas Aero Color in Brady Texas. Alan does a
lot of corporate and war birds and does beautiful work. He also did the
Saratoga I fly. He is usually dead on perfect in 4 weeks but us very good
about communicating where the project is .
So I will be taking my RV-10 to him for paint. He has painted several 10's.
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 3:27 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV-10 Paint Costs
I also had mine painted in Mena AR. The end result is a very good paint job
for $8,500 BUT took about 6 months to complete. 6 months where I was paying
flight insurance, hangar etc. And that is only the beginning of the story. I
will be painting my 8A a little closer to home next time where I can review
the progress and kick someone's empennage if need be.
Robin
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DLM
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Paint Costs
location is important. AZ paint shops wanted 9500-12000. Mine was painted at
Mena AR . Three paint shops on the field. Crider Goodner did mine. Price for
Matterhorn White with Maroon trim (forgot the paint brand) was $4500. I
spent about $1500 extra on the trip there and VFR (visiting friends and
relatives. rental car and food for kids and grandkids for 2 weeks while it
was painted. Figure about $6000.
----- Original Message -----
From: Don McDonald <mailto:building_partner@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Paint Costs
Mike, you probably would get better info if you provide your location.
Kracon, in Lincoln Calif, is one of the best deals out there. I had my 10
painted there for under 8k with some fiberglass work. Since then (8-2009)
there has been at least 4 other RV's done there. Glo Custom, in the Ft.
Worth area, is really busy, and a 10 will cost between 10k and12k.
Don McDonald
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I had my RV6 painted at Renue Aircraft in Cleveland Oklahoma
http://www.renueaircraft.com/index.html. Pics attached ( hopefully they
stay attached). You need to have the fiberglass done, but they fill the pin
holes. When I dropped it off, I took off the gear leg fairings, wheel
pants, and emp fairing, since I wanted them painted off the plane. I put
them back on when I picked it up. Mine was $5500 and took 3-weeks. They
paint a lot of production aircraft and have done several RVs.
Cleveland is located about 35 miles west of Tulsa OK.
Jerry Calvert
RV6
Edmond OK
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DLM
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Paint Costs
location is important. AZ paint shops wanted 9500-12000. Mine was painted at
Mena AR . Three paint shops on the field. Crider Goodner did mine. Price for
Matterhorn White with Maroon trim (forgot the paint brand) was $4500. I
spent about $1500 extra on the trip there and VFR (visiting friends and
relatives. rental car and food for kids and grandkids for 2 weeks while it
was painted. Figure about $6000.
----- Original Message -----
From: Don McDonald <mailto:building_partner@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Paint Costs
Mike, you probably would get better info if you provide your location.
Kracon, in Lincoln Calif, is one of the best deals out there. I had my 10
painted there for under 8k with some fiberglass work. Since then (8-2009)
there has been at least 4 other RV's done there. Glo Custom, in the Ft.
Worth area, is really busy, and a 10 will cost between 10k and12k.
Don McDonald
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From: Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 Paint Costs
<http://us.mc537.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=n223rv@wolflakeairport.net> >
I was curious how much I should plan for paint costs. My plan would be for
me to do most the glass work, but to hire out the prime/painting. I'm
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I thought long and hard on this and made the decision to put it up on the vertical
stabilizer and modified the fiberglass tip so it fit and made it removable.
I did not want it on the bottom because of how bad it looks there and also for
accidentally running into it,,,,myself on anyone else. My thoughts on reception
are that it might work better on the bottom, however they do seem to work
just fine on the majority of certified GA planes, including my Cessna,,,,so that's
where I put it and I am happy with my decision.
David Clifford
RV-10 Builder
65% Done-95% To Go
N849RV (reserved)
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From: n801bh@netzero.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 6:44:38 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: VOR/GS/LOC antenna mount
I have been to enought airshows/flyins etc where the general public have access
to my experimental and kids that small without supervision will use the antenna
as a chin up bar and pull it off the plane. If they are dumb enough to happen
to poke themselves in the eye then the PARENTS are at fault. And me of course
for providing a play toy for ill behaved kids. Keep in mind when flying ALL
VOR stations are below you and so are all the transmitting ATC radio stations.
It just makes sense to mount those antennes on the bottom of the aircraft............
Just my humble opinion.
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
---------- Original Message ----------
From: "DLM" <dlm46007@cox.net>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: VOR/GS/LOC antenna mount
The main reason to not mount under the tail is the antenna in eye problem for any
little people around the aircraft.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric_Kallio" < scout019@msn.com >
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 8:00 AM
Subject: RV10-List: VOR/GS/LOC antenna mount
>
> Getting ready to mount the cat whisker type LOC antenna as one of the ever shrinking
list of things to finish before inspection. Because I didn't plan ahead
when building the VS I am going to mount the antenna under the tail. Anyone
have pics of how they did their mount. particularly what you did for a doubler
and nutplates. No need to reinvent the wheel if there is already a good solution
out there.
>
> Eric Kallio
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That's a NICE looking paint scheme........
do not archive
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Jerry Calvert" <rv6@att.net>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV-10 Paint Costs
I had my RV6 painted at Renue Aircraft in Cleveland Oklahoma http://www
.renueaircraft.com/index.html. Pics attached ( hopefully they stay atta
ched). You need to have the fiberglass done, but they fill the pin hole
s. When I dropped it off, I took off the gear leg fairings, wheel pant
s, and emp fairing, since I wanted them painted off the plane. I put th
em back on when I picked it up. Mine was $5500 and took 3-weeks. They
paint a lot of production aircraft and have done several RVs.<?xml:names
pace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
Cleveland is located about 35 miles west of Tulsa OK.
Jerry Calvert
RV6
Edmond OK
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r@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DLM
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Paint Costs
location is important. AZ paint shops wanted 9500-12000. Mine was painte
d at Mena AR . Three paint shops on the field. Crider Goodner did mine.
Price for Matterhorn White with Maroon trim (forgot the paint brand) was
$4500. I spent about $1500 extra on the trip there and VFR (visiting fr
iends and relatives. rental car and food for kids and grandkids for 2 we
eks while it was painted. Figure about $6000.
----- Original Message -----
From: Don McDonald
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Paint Costs
Mike, you probably would get better info if you provide your location.
Kracon, in Lincoln Calif, is one of the best deals out there. I had my
10 painted there for under 8k with some fiberglass work. Since then (8-
2009) there has been at least 4 other RV's done there. Glo Custom, in t
he Ft. Worth area, is really busy, and a 10 will cost between 10k and12k
.
Don McDonald
--- On Wed, 11/24/10, Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net> wrote:
From: Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 Paint Costs
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I was curious how much I should plan for paint costs. My plan would be
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I wanted it on top too, but I didn't come to that conclusion until after the VS
was built and even mounted now. A little too late to go back and make provisions
to run the coax up to an antenna. My lack of prior planning is what drove
my decision to put it on the bottom. I don't have kids, but I did recognize that
problem with the eye hazard and will be getting some brightly colored, and
very light weight foam balls to put on the ends on the ground turning the point
into a blunt end.
Eric
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Dave,
I'd like to set something up with you for end of March when I'll be down your way
on vacation, how will you be handling scheduling, etc.?
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Dave Ford
RV6 flying
RV10 building
Cadillac, MI
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| Subject: | Re: VOR/GS/LOC antenna mount |
Eric, re-read your email after I sent my first message.- I used K-1000-3
nut plates for a #10-32 screw or AN 3 bolt.
-
Rick
--- On Wed, 11/24/10, Eric_Kallio <scout019@msn.com> wrote:
From: Eric_Kallio <scout019@msn.com>
Subject: RV10-List: VOR/GS/LOC antenna mount
Received: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 3:00 PM
Getting ready to mount the cat whisker type LOC antenna as one of the ever
shrinking list of things to finish before inspection. Because I didn't plan
ahead when building the VS I am going to mount the antenna under the tail.
Anyone have pics of how they did their mount. particularly what you did fo
r a doubler and nutplates. No need to reinvent the wheel if there is alread
y a good solution out there.
Eric Kallio
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| Subject: | Re: VOR/GS/LOC antenna mount |
Eric
-
I just made a doubler for a Comant CI 157P and installed it last weekend.
- I used 2024T3 .063", and then rivetted it in the rear tail cone as othe
rs have done.--Tim Olson has a couple of pictures of the exterior-pla
cement on his web site, in misc photos, "The Colorado 10's".- I alodined
the area under the doubler as I hadn't primed that area.- Also alodined b
oth sides of the doubler and the circular area on the ouside of the tail sk
in.-
-
I'm not going to worry about kids or anyone bumping the antenna.--If an
yone hits it, it will likely be me.- I wanted the best possible reception
I can get as we have far fewer VOR's-here north of the 49th parallel.
-
Rick
#40956
Southampton, Ont
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--- On Thu, 11/25/10, Eric_Kallio <scout019@msn.com> wrote:
From: Eric_Kallio <scout019@msn.com>
Subject: RV10-List: Re: VOR/GS/LOC antenna mount
Received: Thursday, November 25, 2010, 1:17 AM
I wanted it on top too, but I didn't come to that conclusion until after th
e VS was built and even mounted now. A little too late to go back and make
provisions to run the coax up to an antenna. My lack of prior planning is w
hat drove my decision to put it on the bottom. I don't have kids, but I did
recognize that problem with the eye hazard and will be getting some bright
ly colored, and very light weight foam balls to put on the ends on the grou
nd turning the point into a blunt end.
Eric
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| Subject: | Re: VOR/GS/LOC antenna mount |
Agreed. Photo attached.
Robin
*From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *
carl.froehlich@verizon.net
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 24, 2010 6:28 PM
*To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
*Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Re: VOR/GS/LOC antenna mount
I agree with the earlier posts - the very marginal gain of having any
external VOR/GS antenna over a wingtip one is not worth the risk of anyone
poking out an eye.
I have a homebrew wintip antenna in my 8A that receives stations quite
well. A few pieces of aluminum out of the scrap bin and you're done. I'll
make an identical one for the 10.
Carl
Sent from my mobile phone. Please read past the typos.
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| Subject: | Re: Transition Training LODA |
I am late to this thread.......but better late than never. My insurance
company required 5 hours of transition training from one of two
instructors...Mike Seager and Alex DeDominicis.....you might want to check
with your insurance company before you go down. I am sure it is not a
problem, but you never know when it comes to an insurance company paying a
claim.....
Rene'
801-721-6080
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rvdave
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 7:31 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Transition Training LODA
Dave,
I'd like to set something up with you for end of March when I'll be down
your way on vacation, how will you be handling scheduling, etc.?
--------
Dave Ford
RV6 flying
RV10 building
Cadillac, MI
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| Subject: | Re: Transition Training LODA |
That is a good point... David and anyone else who get
the LODA, you may want to speak with AIG and Global, or
perhaps get the word out through your agent and have them
pass it to those companies, and get on the accepted list.
When I did mine (which was a while ago) one company specifically
only said Mike Seager, and the other said Mike or Alex...but
they specified the people who qualified. I'm sure it's
probably a bit more relaxed now, but getting your name to
those companies as one of their accepted people would be
a plus. It would be nice to see a list of 5 or 10 people
in various parts of the country.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
do not archive
On 11/24/2010 9:39 PM, Rene wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene"<rene@felker.com>
>
> I am late to this thread.......but better late than never. My insurance
> company required 5 hours of transition training from one of two
> instructors...Mike Seager and Alex DeDominicis.....you might want to check
> with your insurance company before you go down. I am sure it is not a
> problem, but you never know when it comes to an insurance company paying a
> claim.....
>
> Rene'
> 801-721-6080
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rvdave
> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 7:31 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Transition Training LODA
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "rvdave"<davidbf@centurytel.net>
>
> Dave,
> I'd like to set something up with you for end of March when I'll be down
> your way on vacation, how will you be handling scheduling, etc.?
>
> --------
> Dave Ford
> RV6 flying
> RV10 building
> Cadillac, MI
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=320893#320893
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: VOR/GS/LOC antenna mount |
I sometimes find it funny when everyone makes a big
deal out of the ol "poke yer eye out" argument about
the whiskers under the tail. Since the beginning of
2006, I've managed to have my plane at flyins all
over, have kids playing in the hangar for hours and
hours, and push my plane in next to a table, a
snowblower, a kerosene heater, and other things in the
hangar. Not once has it been an issue for injury
or damage. It really isn't that wide, and being
directly under the VS, it's not really a place that
anyone other than kids COULD play...but they don't.
Sure, it could happen, and maybe it could happen
to your kid. Certainly it's up to you to make your
choice on that. I just don't see that it's a real
issue.
The ones that I've had closer encounters with are
the belly Com's, as I clean the belly with my creeper.
For the whiskers, the idea of the foam balls, or
a rubber cap and streamer would be a good option if
you want some added protection while at fly-ins. It's
really about the only time you'll even care about
the whiskers.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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On 11/24/2010 7:17 PM, Eric_Kallio wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Eric_Kallio"<scout019@msn.com>
>
> I wanted it on top too, but I didn't come to that conclusion until
> after the VS was built and even mounted now. A little too late to go
> back and make provisions to run the coax up to an antenna. My lack of
> prior planning is what drove my decision to put it on the bottom. I
> don't have kids, but I did recognize that problem with the eye hazard
> and will be getting some brightly colored, and very light weight foam
> balls to put on the ends on the ground turning the point into a blunt
> end.
>
> Eric
>
>
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