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     0. 12:10 AM - Just Three Days Left & Some Very Nice Comments...  (Matt Dralle)
     1. 04:26 AM - Re: Re: NavWorx ADS-B on Dynon SkyView (Kelly McMullen)
     2. 05:31 AM - Re: Re: NavWorx ADS-B on Dynon SkyView (DLM)
     3. 05:44 AM - Re: NavWorx ADS-B on Dynon SkyView (Lenny Iszak)
     4. 07:22 AM - Re: Re: NavWorx ADS-B on Dynon SkyView (Kelly McMullen)
     5. 07:28 AM - Re: Re: NavWorx ADS-B on Dynon SkyView (Robin Marks)
     6. 07:49 AM - Re: NavWorx ADS-B on Dynon SkyView (Kelly McMullen)
     7. 09:14 AM - Re: Interior door handle mechanism ()
     8. 09:23 AM - Re: Off Topic--FAA Rulemaking (AirMike)
     9. 09:36 AM - Re: NavWorx ADS-B on Dynon SkyView (Tim Olson)
    10. 09:43 AM - Re: Re: NavWorx ADS-B on Dynon SkyView (Tim Olson)
    11. 09:45 AM - Re: Re: Off Topic--FAA Rulemaking (Tim Olson)
    12. 10:10 AM - Re: Re: Off Topic--FAA Rulemaking (DLM)
    13. 01:53 PM - Re: NavWorx ADS-B on Dynon SkyView (Kelly McMullen)
    14. 05:24 PM - tach drive cover (pilotdds)
    15. 05:24 PM - Re: NavWorx ADS-B on Dynon SkyView (DLM)
    16. 06:07 PM - Re: NavWorx ADS-B on Dynon SkyView (Seano)
    17. 06:09 PM - Re: tach drive cover (Michael Kraus)
    18. 06:10 PM - Re: tach drive cover (Ron B.)
    19. 06:10 PM - Re: tach drive cover (Seano)
    20. 06:12 PM - Re: Transition Training LODA (Ron B.)
    21. 06:15 PM - Re: NavWorx ADS-B on Dynon SkyView (Kelly McMullen)
    22. 06:39 PM - Re: NavWorx ADS-B on Dynon SkyView (Tim Olson)
    23. 06:55 PM - Re: NavWorx ADS-B on Dynon SkyView (Kelly McMullen)
    24. 07:06 PM - Thottle cable length (John Gonzalez)
    25. 08:11 PM - Re: tach drive cover (Pascal)
    26. 08:37 PM - Re: Thottle cable length (Tim Olson)
    27. 09:15 PM - Re: Thottle cable length (John Gonzalez)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Just Three Days Left & Some Very Nice Comments...  | 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: NavWorx ADS-B on Dynon SkyView | 
      
      I would assume that those units could be upgraded to current processor with
      liberal application of $$$$. Otherwise it would seem a waste to not be able
      to get the weather.
      
      On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Lenny Iszak <lenard@rapiddecision.com>wrote:
      
      >
      > I just helped a friend connect a NavWorx Box to a pair of AFS 3500 units.
      >   The only issue is that it only works on the AFS units with an "s"
      > processor.
      > Older units only support the TIS protocol for traffic and no ADSB weather.
      >
      > Lenny
      >
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Re: NavWorx ADS-B on Dynon SkyView | 
      
      Freeflight systems will be selling a UAT transceiver in 2Q11 for 
      slightly more money. This is the experimental version of their TSOed 
      unit. Street price is rumored to be about $3100. It is the RANGR E 
      series.
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Kelly McMullen 
        To: rv10-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 5:22 AM
        Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: NavWorx ADS-B on Dynon SkyView
      
      
        I would assume that those units could be upgraded to current processor 
      with liberal application of $$$$. Otherwise it would seem a waste to not 
      be able to get the weather.
      
      
        On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Lenny Iszak 
      <lenard@rapiddecision.com> wrote:
      
      <lenard@rapiddecision.com>
      
          I just helped a friend connect a NavWorx Box to a pair of AFS 3500 
      units.
            The only issue is that it only works on the AFS units with an "s" 
      processor.
          Older units only support the TIS protocol for traffic and no ADSB 
      weather.
      
          Lenny
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: NavWorx ADS-B on Dynon SkyView | 
      
      
      Yeah, they can be upgraded. Not having weather is not that big of a deal. AFS displays
      XM weather even with the older processor.
      
      Lenny
      
      
      [quote="Kelly McMullen"]I would assume that those units could be upgraded to current
      processor with liberal application of $$$$. Otherwise it would seem a waste
      to not be able to get the weather.
      
      --------
      Lenny
      #40803
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321367#321367
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: NavWorx ADS-B on Dynon SkyView | 
      
      
      @ $55/mo XM weather consumes a lot of avgas budget. Debate begins as to 
      how long XM will find it worthwhile to offer the service.  The other 
      question will be how much longer the FAA will require Mode C transponder 
      if you have UAT. Obviously a non-issue with mode S, but Mode S with 
      ADS-B In will be significantly more money than UAT In and Out. Only 
      advantage to Mode S is ability to go above 18,000 legally.
      
      
      On 11/28/2010 6:42 AM, Lenny Iszak wrote:
      > -->  RV10-List message posted by: "Lenny Iszak"<lenard@rapiddecision.com>
      >
      > Yeah, they can be upgraded. Not having weather is not that big of a deal. AFS
      displays XM weather even with the older processor.
      >
      > Lenny
      >   
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: NavWorx ADS-B on Dynon SkyView | 
      
      RV10-List: Re: NavWorx ADS-B on Dynon SkyView
      
      Isn=92t part of the issue that the ADS-B WX is free and the XM WX is betwee
      n
      $30-$50/month? The $30/month does not provide some basics like Winds Aloft.
      
      I get confused because NavWorx lists the displays it works with which do no
      t
      include the G3X but does include the Garmin 696. However the 696 says TIS-A
      only. I will be getting TIS from my G330 right?
      
      UGH=85
      
      
      Robin
      
      
      *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
      owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Lenny Iszak
      *Sent:* Sunday, November 28, 2010 5:42 AM
      *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
      *Subject:* RV10-List: Re: NavWorx ADS-B on Dynon SkyView
      
      
      
      Yeah, they can be upgraded. Not having weather is not that big of a deal.
      AFS displays XM weather even with the older processor.
      
      Lenny
      
      
      [quote="Kelly McMullen"]I would assume that those units could be upgraded
       to
      current processor with liberal application of $$$$. Otherwise it would seem
      a waste to not be able to get the weather.
      
      --------
      Lenny
      #40803
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321367#321367
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: NavWorx ADS-B on Dynon SkyView | 
      
      As I understand it UAT receives the full package of TIS and FIS (traffic and
      weather) on something like 780mHz. 1090ES is an extended version of Mode S
      that only receives TISA from ATC facilities that broadcast TIS, and maybe
      from other aircraft like airliners that already use 1090. The 1090 band
      supports both Mode C transponders and Mode S and therefore is bandwidth
      limited and can't handle the extra weather data. The airlines lobbied for
      and got a restriction requiring 1090 for flight at and above FL180. So there
      is no one solution that does all ADS-B that is allowed in all airspace.
      
      On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 7:17 PM, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>wrote:
      
      >
      > I just wanted to post a quick description of my experience installing a
      > NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver coupled to a Dynon SkyView system.
      >
      >
      > Bill at NavWorx is fairly good to deal with.  I don't fully understand the
      > difference between 1090 and UAT (those may not even be the two systems, or
      > they may be the same).  I think Bill said that the UAT system that the
      > NavWorx system works on is better than 1090.  Anyway, there didn't seem to
      > be any other options that were reasonably prices, so NavWorx it is.
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Interior door handle mechanism | 
      
      
      Geoff:  Put me on the list for the new handles when they are ready.  Jay Rowe #40301
      jfrjr@roadrunner.com
      ---- "g.combs" <g.combs@aerosportmodeling.com> wrote: 
      > Myron these will be available very soon from Aerosport Products. They are a 
      > 30 minute install to any stock RV-10 door handle. They will come with gear 
      > box cover as seen
      > in the photo.
      > 
      > Geoff
      > www.aerosportproducts.com
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: "woxofswa" <woxof@aol.com>
      > To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 3:29 PM
      > Subject: RV10-List: Interior door handle mechanism
      > 
      > 
      > >
      > > Anybody know of aftermarket interior door handles that don't look like 
      > > they belong on a soap box derby car?
      > >
      > > Thanks in advance.
      > >
      > > --------
      > > Myron Nelson
      > > Mesa, AZ
      > > Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse in mostly done, 
      > > finishing kit in progress.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Read this topic online here:
      > >
      > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321222#321222
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
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| Subject:  | Re: Off Topic--FAA Rulemaking | 
      
      
      Dave - thanks for letting us know about this - I sent the following to the FAA.
      
      I object to the actively engaged provisions of this clarifying definition. While
      I fly an experimental aircraft and do my own inspections, I formerly owned a
      certified aircraft and may again in the future. This proposal (if implemented)
      would make it more difficult and expensive to obtain an IA sign-off on an annual
      inspection. Many retired or semi-retired IA's can do a very competent job
      of "annualing" a certified aircraft. To summarily kick these people out of the
      aviation community by pulling their authorization would be doing aviation a
      great disservice. I see no safety benefit in this proposal.
      
      --------
      See you OSH '11 
      Q/B - flying 1 yr+
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321401#321401
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: NavWorx ADS-B on Dynon SkyView | 
      
      A couple of points:
      The UAT frequency is 978mhz.
      If you DO decide to go 1090ES, it requires a capable transponder.....today t
      hat would mean you probably don't want to buy a gtx327 because it's the gtx3
      30 you would be able to upgrade...at a price of about $1200 I think.  This w
      ould give you OUT but not IN, so you still would only get Mode S traffic in l
      imited coverage areas.  Also no WX.
      
      While sometimes people make 1090ES sound like a better choice citing the hig
      h altitude requirement for 1090ES, I personally have found that ops over 18,
      000' in the RV10 aren't a very practical thing....likely you'll never bother
       to go that high...ever.  Yes, people have, like Jesse, and cruising at 17k w
      orks well for him, but that isn't >18k'.  You will find the RV10 so performa
      nce limited above 18 that you won't go there....or if you did, you'd probabl
      y want to be solo or 2 people-no-baggage.  So the altitude limitations on UA
      T use fit nicely with the RV10's useful profile.
      
      The WX is provided by the same source as WSI.  XM and WSI both offer package
      s with more services than FIS-B with better continental coverage than FIS-B w
      ill ever offer.  So, FIS-B is great for those who don't care or use it enoug
      h or want to spend the money on a premium satellite service that gives much b
      etter in-flight performance.  Normally I would think that since WSI's servic
      e provides the FIS-B weather for the ADS-B program, that WSI would be the mo
      re "stable" company, but XM has such a huge market share that both seem to b
      e able to stick around just fine. I doubt XM is going anywhere.
      
      One more thing... If you go 1090, best to wait or go with a non-garmin trans
      ponder that offers in/out with the transponder.  The upgraded 330 with 1090E
      S only does out.  So, no traffic services for you.  With the UAT you get bas
      ically all transponder equipped traffic if you're in ground coverage.  If no
      t, you still get air-to-air coverage even if not in ground station coverage.
       Make sure to go with the transformer not receiver only, if you want it to w
      ork great for you with the way the system is being run today.
      
      So really, the UAT type ADS-B is a near perfect fit for the RV-10.  1090ES o
      ffers us much less.  Even TCAS offers less as a whole. (it's better traffic c
      overage without any weather capabilities.)  The near ideal for us is like Se
      an is planning...a TCAS+ADS-B mixed type system...but you have to pony up fo
      r it.
      
      Tim
      
      
      On Nov 28, 2010, at 9:46 AM, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com> wrote:
      
      > As I understand it UAT receives the full package of TIS and FIS (traffic a
      nd weather) on something like 780mHz. 1090ES is an extended version of Mode S
       that only receives TISA from ATC facilities that broadcast TIS, and maybe f
      rom other aircraft like airliners that already use 1090. The 1090 band suppo
      rts both Mode C transponders and Mode S and therefore is bandwidth limited a
      nd can't handle the extra weather data. The airlines lobbied for and got a r
      estriction requiring 1090 for flight at and above FL180. So there is no one s
      olution that does all ADS-B that is allowed in all airspace.
      > 
      > On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 7:17 PM, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com> wro
      te:
      > 
      > I just wanted to post a quick description of my experience installing a Na
      vWorx ADS600-B Transceiver coupled to a Dynon SkyView system.
      > 
      >   
      > Bill at NavWorx is fairly good to deal with.  I don't fully understand the
       difference between 1090 and UAT (those may not even be the two systems, or t
      hey may be the same).  I think Bill said that the UAT system that the NavWor
      x system works on is better than 1090.  Anyway, there didn't seem to be any o
      ther options that were reasonably prices, so NavWorx it is.
      >  
      > 
      > 
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| Subject:  | Re: NavWorx ADS-B on Dynon SkyView | 
      
      I think the G3X is too new for it to be tested and known.  Likely it'll do t
      raffic just like the 696.  The WX would be much harder, since to do that, th
      ey'd have to emulate XM as a split separate feed....not sure if they'll go d
      own that path.  For systems that support a combined ADS-B interface where yo
      u get both on the same feed, maybe someday they'll integrate...but if you go
       Garmin on EFIS/panel as a base, you're likely to be stuck at least for a lo
      ng while, with Garmin only for accessories of this type.  The gorilla doesn'
      t play well with all the other monkey species.
      Tim
      
      
      On Nov 28, 2010, at 9:25 AM, Robin Marks <Robin@PaintTheWeb.com> wrote:
      
      > Isn=99t part of the issue that the ADS-B WX is free and the XM WX is
       between $30-$50/month? The $30/month does not provide some basics like Wind
      s Aloft.
      > 
      > I get confused because NavWorx lists the displays it works with which do n
      ot include the G3X but does include the Garmin 696. However the 696 says TIS
      -A only. I will be getting TIS from my G330 right?
      > 
      > UGH
      > 
      >  
      > 
      > Robin
      > 
      >  
      > 
      > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@
      matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lenny Iszak
      > Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 5:42 AM
      > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: RV10-List: Re: NavWorx ADS-B on Dynon SkyView
      > 
      >  
      > 
      > 
      > Yeah, they can be upgraded. Not having weather is not that big of a deal. A
      FS displays XM weather even with the older processor.
      > 
      > Lenny
      > 
      > 
      > [quote="Kelly McMullen"]I would assume that those units could be upgrade
      d to current processor with liberal application of $$$$. Otherwise it would s
      eem a waste to not be able to get the weather.
      > 
      > --------
      > Lenny
      > #40803
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321367#321367
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| Subject:  | Re: Off Topic--FAA Rulemaking | 
      
      
      Short and sweet and to the point.  I'll copy what you said and sent in the same.
      Tim
      
      
      On Nov 28, 2010, at 11:20 AM, "AirMike" <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net> wrote:
      
      > 
      > Dave - thanks for letting us know about this - I sent the following to the FAA.
      > 
      > I object to the actively engaged provisions of this clarifying definition. While
      I fly an experimental aircraft and do my own inspections, I formerly owned
      a certified aircraft and may again in the future. This proposal (if implemented)
      would make it more difficult and expensive to obtain an IA sign-off on an
      annual inspection. Many retired or semi-retired IA's can do a very competent job
      of "annualing" a certified aircraft. To summarily kick these people out of
      the aviation community by pulling their authorization would be doing aviation
      a great disservice. I see no safety benefit in this proposal.
      > 
      > --------
      > See you OSH '11 
      > Q/B - flying 1 yr+
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321401#321401
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
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| Subject:  | Re: Off Topic--FAA Rulemaking | 
      
      
      BTW if you want to object to something ; object to the 99 year comment 
      period assigned to the eliminaton of the 3rd class medical.
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@myrv10.com>
      Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 10:43 AM
      Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Off Topic--FAA Rulemaking
      
      
      >
      > Short and sweet and to the point.  I'll copy what you said and sent in the 
      > same.
      > Tim
      >
      >
      > On Nov 28, 2010, at 11:20 AM, "AirMike" <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net> wrote:
      >
      >>
      >> Dave - thanks for letting us know about this - I sent the following to 
      >> the FAA.
      >>
      >> I object to the actively engaged provisions of this clarifying 
      >> definition. While I fly an experimental aircraft and do my own 
      >> inspections, I formerly owned a certified aircraft and may again in the 
      >> future. This proposal (if implemented) would make it more difficult and 
      >> expensive to obtain an IA sign-off on an annual inspection. Many retired 
      >> or semi-retired IA's can do a very competent job of "annualing" a 
      >> certified aircraft. To summarily kick these people out of the aviation 
      >> community by pulling their authorization would be doing aviation a great 
      >> disservice. I see no safety benefit in this proposal.
      >>
      >> --------
      >> See you OSH '11
      >> Q/B - flying 1 yr+
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> Read this topic online here:
      >>
      >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321401#321401
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: NavWorx ADS-B on Dynon SkyView | 
      
      
      Thanks for the frequency correction Tim. Memory isn't what it used to 
      be. :-(
      Note that a GNX330 is something like $3300 to start with, and the 
      upgrade is on top of that, you you would be out almost $2K more than the 
      NavWorx UAT transceiver. If you want really big bucks there is the 
      Garmin UAT, the GDL 90, which AFAIK there have been no announcements 
      whether it will be upgradeable to comply with the final rule. If you 
      were to buy a 1090ES of any brand, you would still need a UAT receiver 
      to get weather, as 1090 doesn't have the bandwidth available to carry it 
      ontop of existing transponder traffic. Or stick with XM weather and keep 
      paying the fee.
      
      
      On 11/28/2010 10:33 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
      > A couple of points:
      > The UAT frequency is 978mhz.
      > If you DO decide to go 1090ES, it requires a capable 
      > transponder.....today that would mean you probably don't want to buy a 
      > gtx327 because it's the gtx330 you would be able to upgrade...at a 
      > price of about $1200 I think.  This would give you OUT but not IN, so 
      > you still would only get Mode S traffic in limited coverage areas. 
      >  Also no WX.
      >
      > **
      
      
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| Subject:  | tach drive cover | 
      
      
      Anybody know where to find a cover for the tach drive on the lycoming engin
      es.Also how about 5/8 or 3/4
        blast tubes that can be riveted to the engine baffling-thanks
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: NavWorx ADS-B on Dynon SkyView | 
      
      
      check http://freeflightsystems.com/docs/FreeFlight_RANGR_ADS-B.pdf
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Kelly McMullen" <kellym@aviating.com>
      Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 2:50 PM
      Subject: Re: RV10-List: NavWorx ADS-B on Dynon SkyView
      
      
      > 
      > Thanks for the frequency correction Tim. Memory isn't what it used to 
      > be. :-(
      > Note that a GNX330 is something like $3300 to start with, and the 
      > upgrade is on top of that, you you would be out almost $2K more than the 
      > NavWorx UAT transceiver. If you want really big bucks there is the 
      > Garmin UAT, the GDL 90, which AFAIK there have been no announcements 
      > whether it will be upgradeable to comply with the final rule. If you 
      > were to buy a 1090ES of any brand, you would still need a UAT receiver 
      > to get weather, as 1090 doesn't have the bandwidth available to carry it 
      > ontop of existing transponder traffic. Or stick with XM weather and keep 
      > paying the fee.
      > 
      > 
      > On 11/28/2010 10:33 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
      >> A couple of points:
      >> The UAT frequency is 978mhz.
      >> If you DO decide to go 1090ES, it requires a capable 
      >> transponder.....today that would mean you probably don't want to buy a 
      >> gtx327 because it's the gtx330 you would be able to upgrade...at a 
      >> price of about $1200 I think.  This would give you OUT but not IN, so 
      >> you still would only get Mode S traffic in limited coverage areas. 
      >>  Also no WX.
      >>
      >> **
      > 
      > 
      > 
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: NavWorx ADS-B on Dynon SkyView | 
      
      
      My gts800 has the in portion and the gtx330 (es) is the out. If I recall the gtx330
      was around 4200$
      
      Sent from my iPhone
      
      On Nov 28, 2010, at 14:50, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote:
      
      > 
      > Thanks for the frequency correction Tim. Memory isn't what it used to be. :-(
      > Note that a GNX330 is something like $3300 to start with, and the upgrade is
      on top of that, you you would be out almost $2K more than the NavWorx UAT transceiver.
      If you want really big bucks there is the Garmin UAT, the GDL 90, which
      AFAIK there have been no announcements whether it will be upgradeable to comply
      with the final rule. If you were to buy a 1090ES of any brand, you would
      still need a UAT receiver to get weather, as 1090 doesn't have the bandwidth available
      to carry it ontop of existing transponder traffic. Or stick with XM weather
      and keep paying the fee.
      > 
      > 
      > On 11/28/2010 10:33 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
      >> A couple of points:
      >> The UAT frequency is 978mhz.
      >> If you DO decide to go 1090ES, it requires a capable transponder.....today that
      would mean you probably don't want to buy a gtx327 because it's the gtx330
      you would be able to upgrade...at a price of about $1200 I think.  This would
      give you OUT but not IN, so you still would only get Mode S traffic in limited
      coverage areas.  Also no WX.
      >> 
      >> **
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: tach drive cover | 
      
      http://www.averytools.com/prodinfo.asp?number=6346
      
      Sent from my iPhone
      
      On Nov 28, 2010, at 8:19 PM, pilotdds <pilotdds@aol.com> wrote:
      
      > Anybody know where to find a cover for the tach drive on the lycoming engi
      nes.Also how about 5/8 or 3/4
      >   blast tubes that can be riveted to the engine baffling-thanks
      > 
      >  
      > 
      ==========================
      =========
      ==========================
      =========
      ==========================
      =========
      ==========================
      =========
      
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| Subject:  | Re: tach drive cover | 
      
      
      Aircraft Spruce, P/N 10-06754. As for blast tube flanges, I machined my own out
      of alum. stock. If you are not capable, any shop with a lathe should should do.
      Ron
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321459#321459
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: tach drive cover | 
      
      Andair sells one on aircraft spruce. Expensive though. 
      
      Sent from my iPhone
      
      On Nov 28, 2010, at 18:19, pilotdds <pilotdds@aol.com> wrote:
      
      > Anybody know where to find a cover for the tach drive on the lycoming engi
      nes.Also how about 5/8 or 3/4
      >   blast tubes that can be riveted to the engine baffling-thanks
      > 
      >  
      > 
      ==========================
      =========
      ==========================
      =========
      ==========================
      =========
      ==========================
      =========
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Transition Training LODA | 
      
      
      We did our transition training last June with Joe. All three of us were very pleased
      with his abilities. Five stars with us, thanks Joe and happy holidays.
      Ron
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321462#321462
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: NavWorx ADS-B on Dynon SkyView | 
      
      That looks very attractive, and the experimental version is very
      competitively priced at $2495.
      
      On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 6:17 PM, DLM <dlm46007@cox.net> wrote:
      
      >
      > check http://freeflightsystems.com/docs/FreeFlight_RANGR_ADS-B.pdf
      > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelly McMullen" <kellym@aviating.com>
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Re: NavWorx ADS-B on Dynon SkyView | 
      
      
      
      Wouldn't you want the GPS equipped version though, for $3495?
      I don't know the capabilities of that unit, but I do know that
      for most systems you'll either need to have one with internal
      GPS or you'll need to send it GPS from a panel-mount
      GNS430W/480/530W.  Again, I don't have the details, but I'd
      think if you had the right panel hardware, you could go with
      the $2495 version, but the $3495 would probably work stand-alone.
      I know very little about their product to date.  The NavWorx
      ADS600B though has an internal GPS, priced in the neighborhood
      of the one without GPS from Freeflight.
      
      
      Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
      
      On 11/28/2010 8:12 PM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
      >
      > That looks very attractive, and the experimental version is very
      > competitively priced at $2495.
      >
      > On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 6:17 PM, DLM <dlm46007@cox.net
      > <mailto:dlm46007@cox.net>> wrote:
      >
      >     <mailto:dlm46007@cox.net>>
      >
      >     check http://freeflightsystems.com/docs/FreeFlight_RANGR_ADS-B.pdf
      >     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelly McMullen"
      >     <kellym@aviating.com <mailto:kellym@aviating.com>>
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: NavWorx ADS-B on Dynon SkyView | 
      
      I'd rather do a little extra wiring to connect it to a 430/530/480.  I
      expect to have a VFR backup with EFIS, and 2 GPS antennas are enough. But
      then again, might be easier to do the tail cone install with GPS ant on top
      and transponder on bottom.
      
      On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
      
      >
      >
      > Wouldn't you want the GPS equipped version though, for $3495?
      > I don't know the capabilities of that unit, but I do know that
      > for most systems you'll either need to have one with internal
      > GPS or you'll need to send it GPS from a panel-mount
      > GNS430W/480/530W.  Again, I don't have the details, but I'd
      > think if you had the right panel hardware, you could go with
      > the $2495 version, but the $3495 would probably work stand-alone.
      > I know very little about their product to date.  The NavWorx
      > ADS600B though has an internal GPS, priced in the neighborhood
      > of the one without GPS from Freeflight.
      >
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Thottle cable length | 
      
      
      I spent most of the day hooking up my control cables on the engine.
      
      I was very surprised that the cables Vans provided with the kit were so tig
      ht and left little extra length to work with. I had installed eye ball pass
       throughs on my firewall in the same location as the stock SBs=2C But I had
       to drill out the aluminum cores so that the cables would fit through corre
      ctly. Unfortunely=2C I hadn't drilled the holes large enough and once the f
      ittings where screwed down the cables were tight in the core. Hense=2C I ne
      eded to undo the eye balls so I could pull the cables tighter giving more r
      oom in the cable in the engine compartment. Even with that=2C I have no wig
      gle room.
      
      I was also very careful to keep the location of the cable handles in the sa
      me location as the stock part even though I fabicated a different subpanel 
      which holds all the control handles.
      
      My mixture cable works through its full range of motion=2C but my throttle 
      cable seems short by 1/4-3/8" even though the cable bracket on the throttle
       body is midway up the throttle cable threaded base. 
      
      Did other builders need to adjust double articulated arm on the throttle bo
      dy so that the cable will make the throttle go to both stops- full open and
       full closed?
      
      Thanks=2C
      
      JOhn G #409 		 	   		  
      
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| Subject:  | Re: tach drive cover | 
      
      Mine was provided by America's Engine when I asked the question.
      I used the tubes at HD that can be located in the plumbing department0 
      basic irrigation tubes. Same thing I used for the wiring too.
      Pascal
      
      
      From: pilotdds 
      Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 5:19 PM
      Subject: RV10-List: tach drive cover
      
      
      Anybody know where to find a cover for the tach drive on the lycoming 
      engines.Also how about 5/8 or 3/4
        blast tubes that can be riveted to the engine baffling-thanks
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Thottle cable length | 
      
      John, is this what you're speaking of?
      http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/finishing/20051228/index.html
      
      See down the page on throttle cable.
      Tim
      
      
      On Nov 28, 2010, at 9:03 PM, John Gonzalez <indigoonlatigo@msn.com> wrote:
      
      > I spent most of the day hooking up my control cables on the engine.
      >  
      > I was very surprised that the cables Vans provided with the kit were so ti
      ght and left little extra length to work with. I had installed eye ball pass
       throughs on my firewall in the same location as the stock SBs, But I had to
       drill out the aluminum cores so that the cables would fit through correctly
      . Unfortunely, I hadn't drilled the holes large enough and once the fittings
       where screwed down the cables were tight in the core. Hense, I needed to un
      do the eye balls so I could pull the cables tighter giving more room in the c
      able in the engine compartment. Even with that, I have no wiggle room.
      >  
      > I was also very careful to keep the location of the cable handles in the s
      ame location as the stock part even though I fabicated a different subpanel w
      hich holds all the control handles.
      >  
      > My mixture cable works through its full range of motion, but my throttle c
      able seems short by 1/4-3/8" even though the cable bracket on the throttle b
      ody is midway up the throttle cable threaded base. 
      >  
      > Did other builders need to adjust double articulated arm on the throttle b
      ody so that the cable will make the throttle go to both stops- full open and
       full closed?
      >  
      > Thanks,
      >  
      > JOhn G #409
      > 
      > 
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      =========
      ==========================
      =========
      ==========================
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| Subject:  | Thottle cable length | 
      
      
      This what I am referring to=2C but you added a quadrant which must have mad
      e the length requirement change. I kept everything nearly the same and ran 
      out of cable length. 
      
      I believe I will be able to fix this by adjusting the position of the servo
       arm as it can imcrementally articulate with the arm which hits the stops.
      
      Just trying the figure why I ran out of length and whether others have had 
      the problem.
      
      Thank you for directing me to the exact location on your site.
      
      John
      
      
      From: Tim@myrv10.com
      Subject: Re: RV10-List: Thottle cable length
      
      
      John=2C is this what you're speaking of?
      http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/finishing/20051228/index.html
      
      
      See down the page on throttle cable.
      Tim
      
      
      On Nov 28=2C 2010=2C at 9:03 PM=2C John Gonzalez <indigoonlatigo@msn.com> w
      rote:
      
      
      I spent most of the day hooking up my control cables on the engine.
      
      I was very surprised that the cables Vans provided with the kit were so tig
      ht and left little extra length to work with. I had installed eye ball pass
       throughs on my firewall in the same location as the stock SBs=2C But I had
       to drill out the aluminum cores so that the cables would fit through corre
      ctly. Unfortunely=2C I hadn't drilled the holes large enough and once the f
      ittings where screwed down the cables were tight in the core. Hense=2C I ne
      eded to undo the eye balls so I could pull the cables tighter giving more r
      oom in the cable in the engine compartment. Even with that=2C I have no wig
      gle room.
      
      I was also very careful to keep the location of the cable handles in the sa
      me location as the stock part even though I fabicated a different subpanel 
      which holds all the control handles.
      
      My mixture cable works through its full range of motion=2C but my throttle 
      cable seems short by 1/4-3/8" even though the cable bracket on the throttle
       body is midway up the throttle cable threaded base. 
      
      Did other builders need to adjust double articulated arm on the throttle bo
      dy so that the cable will make the throttle go to both stops- full open and
       full closed?
      
      Thanks=2C
      
      JOhn G #409
      
      
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