---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 11/30/10: 21 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:53 AM - [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser! (Matt Dralle) 1. 06:26 AM - Dimpling stall warning holes (Billy & Tami Britton) 2. 06:53 AM - Sparkplug replaements (DLM) 3. 07:38 AM - Re: Sparkplug replaements (Tim Olson) 4. 08:31 AM - Re: Dimpling stall warning holes (tsts4) 5. 08:47 AM - wing cradle (Billy & Tami Britton) 6. 09:28 AM - Re: wing cradle (tsts4) 7. 10:28 AM - Winter oil? (Dawson-Townsend,Timothy) 8. 10:45 AM - Re: Winter oil? (John Cumins) 9. 11:07 AM - Re: Winter oil? (Alan Meklet Md) 10. 11:11 AM - Re: Winter oil? (tsts4) 11. 11:45 AM - Re: Re: wing cradle (Bill Watson) 12. 11:56 AM - Re: wing cradle (Bobby J. Hughes) 13. 01:00 PM - Re: Winter oil? (Kelly McMullen) 14. 02:40 PM - Re: wing cradle (Bill Watson) 15. 02:41 PM - Re: Winter oil? (n801bh@netzero.com) 16. 04:57 PM - Re: wing cradle (johngoodman) 17. 06:27 PM - Re: tach drive cover (Bill Schlatterer) 18. 07:52 PM - Re: tach drive cover (pilotdds) 19. 07:57 PM - Re: wing cradle (Bob Turner) 20. 08:23 PM - Re: Re: wing cradle (John Cumins) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:53:29 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RV10-List: [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser! Dear Listers, Its November 30th and that means at least two things. For better or worse, its my 47th birthday! But it also means that its that last official day of the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been drooling over one of the really nice gifts that are available this year with a qualifying Contribution, then now is the time to jump on one!! 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Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:26:17 AM PST US From: "Billy & Tami Britton" Subject: RV10-List: Dimpling stall warning holes I haven't tried dimpling the stall warning holes yet. They look like they are in just the right place on the leading edge that it may do some damage to the leading edge when dimpling them. I'm sure I'm probably wrong about this but wanted to ask before I just jumped into it and found out too late. Anybody have any input on this subject? Am I worrying about something I shouldn't be? How did you dimple them? I've got a DRDT-2, hand dimplers, pop rivet dimplers (don't like using these--seems like they never leave a deep enough dimple) etc... Thanks, Bill ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:53:10 AM PST US From: "DLM" Subject: RV10-List: Sparkplug replaements For those using the standard aviation plugs, Tempest is now manufacuring them; they are called UREM38E and made by Tempest. They are about 2/3 rds of the price of a Champion plug. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:38:58 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sparkplug replaements They bought the Autolite (Unison?) plugs and are now gearing up for production under their name. The fine wire's like I am using, are not available yet, but will be coming down the line later as well. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD do not archive On 11/30/2010 8:50 AM, DLM wrote: > For those using the standard aviation plugs, Tempest is now manufacuring > them; they are called UREM38E and made by Tempest. They are about 2/3 > rds of the price of a Champion plug. > > * ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:31:43 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Dimpling stall warning holes From: "tsts4" IIRC, I used my hand squeezer to dimple those holes and didn't have any issues at all. -------- Todd Stovall 728TT (reserved) RV-10 Empacone, Wings, Fuse Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321800#321800 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:47:23 AM PST US From: "Billy & Tami Britton" Subject: RV10-List: wing cradle I think it's about time I get my wing cradle built. Anybody have any simple plans for a wing cradle or pictures of what you've built? How about a materials list? Thanks, Bill ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:28:47 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: wing cradle From: "tsts4" I don't remember whose photos these are, but I built mine off just these 3 photos and it works great. -------- Todd Stovall 728TT (reserved) RV-10 Empacone, Wings, Fuse Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321811#321811 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/wingstand_011_687.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/wingstand_006_678.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/wingstand_104.jpg ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:28:04 AM PST US From: "Dawson-Townsend,Timothy" Subject: RV10-List: Winter oil? After finishing my test period, I've actually still got SAE 50 mineral oil in the plane, which is obviously more of a summer weight than winter (Massa chusetts). What are thoughts about leaving the SAE 50 in until the next oil change? I was thinking that the crucial part for oil temperature and viscosity is at start up, so as long as I am diligent about getting some pre-heat before s tarting, the SAE 50 might be okay for the short term. (airplane is always hangared, too) TDT Tim Dawson-Townsend RV-10 N52KS (http://aprs.fi/?call=n52ks) tdt@aurora.aero 617-500-4812 (office) 617-905-4800 (mobile) smaller flight ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:45:14 AM PST US From: "John Cumins" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Winter oil? Tim In Mass I would recommend you change and go to Mineral oil at 40 weight no need to go to 30 weight it is not cold enough there. We ran 40 weight in all our planes at the fbo I worked at In anchorage Ak. Every winter and the average temp there was +5 f and only a week or 2 colder then that. John G. Cumins President 2499 B1 Martin Rd Fairfield Ca 94534 707-425-7100 707-425-7576 Fax Your Total Technology Solution Provider From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dawson-Townsend,Timothy Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 10:24 AM Subject: RV10-List: Winter oil? After finishing my test period, I've actually still got SAE 50 mineral oil in the plane, which is obviously more of a summer weight than winter (Massachusetts). What are thoughts about leaving the SAE 50 in until the next oil change? I was thinking that the crucial part for oil temperature and viscosity is at start up, so as long as I am diligent about getting some pre-heat before starting, the SAE 50 might be okay for the short term. (airplane is always hangared, too) TDT Tim Dawson-Townsend RV-10 N52KS (http://aprs.fi/?call=n52ks) tdt@aurora.aero 617-500-4812 (office) 617-905-4800 (mobile) ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:07:14 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Winter oil? From: Alan Meklet Md Tim, I changed to multigrade after 40 hrs. Alan Sent from my iPod On Nov 30, 2010, at 1:23 PM, "Dawson-Townsend,Timothy" wrote: > After finishing my test period, I=99ve actually still got SAE 50 min eral oil in the plane, which is obviously more of a summer weight than winte r (Massachusetts). > > > > What are thoughts about leaving the SAE 50 in until the next oil change? I was thinking that the crucial part for oil temperature and viscosity is at s tart up, so as long as I am diligent about getting some pre-heat before star ting, the SAE 50 might be okay for the short term. (airplane is always han gared, too) > > > > TDT > > > > > > Tim Dawson-Townsend > > RV-10 N52KS (http://aprs.fi/?call=n52ks) > > tdt@aurora.aero > > 617-500-4812 (office) > > 617-905-4800 (mobile) > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:11:45 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Winter oil? From: "tsts4" As a data point -- over on the red board, the guy who makes CamGuard states he runs 20W50 Fall/Winter/Spring and W100 in the Summer. He's based in NJ. Here's the link to the thread (note it's really about CamGuard but oil gets discussed as well) in case you're curious: http://forums.aopa.org/showthread.php?t=69147 -------- Todd Stovall 728TT (reserved) RV-10 Empacone, Wings, Fuse Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321821#321821 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:45:13 AM PST US From: Bill Watson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: wing cradle On 11/30/2010 12:25 PM, tsts4 wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "tsts4" > > I don't remember whose photos these are, but I built mine off just these 3 photos and it works great. > > I built the same ones and 4 years later have not complaints. I used indoor/outdoor 'grass' type carpet for the slings. It looks like this set used soft wheels of some sort. On concrete floor, soft should work better than the steel, but I used what I had and they work fine too. Bill ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:56:35 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: wing cradle From: "Bobby J. Hughes" This may give you some ideas. I was able to build both wings at the same time and still allow my wife to park in our garage during the winter. Bobby Hughes 40116 ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Billy & Tami Britton Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 10:45 AM Subject: RV10-List: wing cradle I think it's about time I get my wing cradle built. Anybody have any simple plans for a wing cradle or pictures of what you've built? How about a materials list? Thanks, Bill ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:00:56 PM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV10-List: Winter oil? Better yet, go to Phillips 20W50, either type M if you feel mineral is important, or regular X/C since you have more than 25 hours on the engine. I didn't like grade 80/40W oil when flying in Fairbanks, Alaska, too thin when ever it warmed up. When multigrade became available, it solved that problem. Add some CamGuard for corrosion protection if you aren't going to fly at least 10 hr/month. On 11/30/2010 11:39 AM, John Cumins wrote: > > Tim > > In Mass I would recommend you change and go to Mineral oil at 40 > weight no need to go to 30 weight it is not cold enough there. > > We ran 40 weight in all our planes at the fbo I worked at In anchorage > Ak. Every winter and the average temp there was +5 f and only a week > or 2 colder then that. > > John G. Cumins > > President > > ISlogoLAsmall > > 2499 B1 Martin Rd > > Fairfield Ca 94534 > > 707-425-7100 > > 707-425-7576 Fax > > Your Total Technology Solution Provider > > *From:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of > *Dawson-Townsend,Timothy > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 30, 2010 10:24 AM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RV10-List: Winter oil? > > After finishing my test period, Ive actually still got SAE 50 mineral > oil in the plane, which is obviously more of a summer weight than > winter (Massachusetts). > > What are thoughts about leaving the SAE 50 in until the next oil > change? I was thinking that the crucial part for oil temperature and > viscosity is at start up, so as long as I am diligent about getting > some pre-heat before starting, the SAE 50 might be okay for the short > term. (airplane is always hangared, too) > > TDT > > Tim Dawson-Townsend > > RV-10 N52KS (http://aprs.fi/?call=n52ks) > > tdt@aurora.aero > > 617-500-4812 (office) > > 617-905-4800 (mobile) > > smaller flight > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:40:57 PM PST US From: Bill Watson Subject: Re: RV10-List: wing cradle Nice! You could paint on those too. On 11/30/2010 2:50 PM, Bobby J. Hughes wrote: > This may give you some ideas. I was able to build both wings at the > same time and still allow my wife to park in our garage during the > winter. > Bobby Hughes > 40116 > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 02:41:49 PM PST US From: "n801bh@netzero.com" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Winter oil? After finishing my test period, I=92ve actually still got SAE 50 minera l > oil in the plane, which is obviously more of a summer weight than > winter (Massachusetts). > > What are thoughts about leaving the SAE 50 in until the next oil > change? I was thinking that the crucial part for oil temperature and > viscosity is at start up, so as long as I am diligent about getting > some pre-heat before starting, the SAE 50 might be okay for the short > term. (airplane is always hangared, too) If you have electricity in the hangar I would leave the oil in till the next change. Put one of these on the bottom of the sump. http://www.arc heat.com/# Ps. buy the one that's thermostatically controlled. Thick oil is your friend if you warm the motor up correctly. Ben. Ben Haas N801BH www.haaspowerair.com ____________________________________________________________ $350,000 Life Insurance Coverage as low as $13.04/month. Free, No Obligation Quotes. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4cf57982138a5533dd4st01vuc ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:57:28 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: wing cradle From: "johngoodman" I copied the same photos. It worked great, now to dismantle it. John -------- #40572 Painted and the wings are on. N711JG reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321862#321862 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 06:27:48 PM PST US From: "Bill Schlatterer" Subject: RE: RV10-List: tach drive cover Avery for Tach covers and this is what I did on the blast tubes. I think it's a 1 inch hole, and then a 1 inch snap bushing which just happens to have a groove that snaps into the grooves in 3/4 blast tubing. Perfect and you can't pull it out! Just one way? Bill S 7a inspection next week _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of pilotdds Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 7:19 PM Subject: RV10-List: tach drive cover Anybody know where to find a cover for the tach drive on the lycoming engines.Also how about 5/8 or 3/4 blast tubes that can be riveted to the engine baffling-thanks ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 07:52:19 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: tach drive cover From: pilotdds Bill, Thank you for the advice. That is the neatest job I have ever seen on the b affling. Love how you sealed it with angle and bolts. I wish I hadn't alrea dy placed 100 pop rivets per Van's plans. I would definitely copy you. I wi ll use your advice on the snap bushings and again - my compliments on the n eat baffling and seal. Jim RV 10 728DD 300 hours # 2 under construction -----Original Message----- From: Bill Schlatterer Sent: Tue, Nov 30, 2010 6:28 pm Subject: RE: RV10-List: tach drive cover Avery for Tach covers and this is what I did on the blast tubes. I think i t's a 1 inch hole, and then a 1 inch snap bushing which just happens to hav e a groove that snaps into the grooves in 3/4 blast tubing. Perfect and yo u can't pull it out! Just one way? Bill S 7a inspection next week From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m atronics.com] On Behalf Of pilotdds Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 7:19 PM Subject: RV10-List: tach drive cover Anybody know where to find a cover for the tach drive on the lycoming engin es.Also how about 5/8 or 3/4 blast tubes that can be riveted to the engine baffling-thanks href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com ref="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com ref="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com ref="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chre f="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?RV10-List ref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 07:57:57 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: wing cradle From: "Bob Turner" I just took mine apart. If you're near the SF Bay area (KLVK) you're welcome to come by and take the lumber, wheels, carpet pieces, etc. Bob -------- Bob Turner RV-10 QB Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321878#321878 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 08:23:32 PM PST US From: "John Cumins" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: wing cradle Bob I am in Dixon Ca just down the road I might take you up on it. I am starting my wings. Contact me off list ad will try and get together. John G. Cumins Starting wings -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Turner Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 7:55 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: wing cradle I just took mine apart. 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