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Thu 12/02/10


Total Messages Posted: 27



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:39 AM - Re: Flightline interior w/ alternative door seals (orchidman)
     2. 05:05 AM - Re: Propeller exchange? (Linn Walters)
     3. 06:37 AM - infinity grips (Strasnuts)
     4. 07:00 AM - Re: infinity grips (Robin Marks)
     5. 07:08 AM - Re: infinity grips (Ralph E. Capen)
     6. 07:26 AM - Re: infinity grips (Sean Stephens)
     7. 07:36 AM - Re: infinity grips (Jesse Saint)
     8. 07:45 AM - Re: infinity grips (Jesse Saint)
     9. 07:45 AM - Re: infinity grips (johngoodman)
    10. 07:53 AM - Re: infinity grips (Rene Felker)
    11. 08:09 AM - Re: infinity grips (Sean Stephens)
    12. 08:25 AM - Re: infinity grips (Jim Ayers)
    13. 08:26 AM - Re: infinity grips (Tim Olson)
    14. 09:01 AM - Re: infinity grips (Strasnuts)
    15. 10:27 AM - Re: Re: Flightline interior w/ alternative door seals (Rob Kochman)
    16. 10:55 AM - control cable extensions (pilotdds)
    17. 11:38 AM - Re: Re: Flightline interior w/ alternative door seals (Robin Marks)
    18. 01:05 PM - Re: control cable extensions (John Gonzalez)
    19. 01:27 PM - Re: control cable extensions (pilotdds)
    20. 03:38 PM - Re: infinity grips (David Maib)
    21. 04:09 PM - Fw: Rv10 quick build kit for sale (Russell Shavitz)
    22. 06:10 PM - fwf/engine hanging procedures (rvdave)
    23. 06:47 PM - Re: fwf/engine hanging procedures (David Maib)
    24. 08:15 PM - Re: fwf/engine hanging procedures (Jesse Saint)
    25. 08:42 PM - Re: fwf/engine hanging procedures (rvdave)
    26. 10:19 PM - Re: fwf/engine hanging procedures (Strasnuts)
    27. 11:49 PM - Re: fwf/engine hanging procedures (Rob Kochman)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:39:29 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Flightline interior w/ alternative door seals
    From: "orchidman" <gary@wingscc.com>
    Rob, Abbie didn't have the seals when I did mine but it looks like hers is about the same as what I did. I got the idea from Dave at Aircrafters. I got the foam from MC also but it is not the same as the seal others are referring to. I think it works great. -------- Gary Blankenbiller RV10 - # 40674 (N2GB Flying) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322032#322032


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    Time: 05:05:58 AM PST US
    From: Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Propeller exchange?
    Would you tell us WHY you're considering the change??? Linn On 12/2/2010 1:59 AM, Dick & Vicki Sipp wrote: > I am considering a propeller change from Van=99s supplied Hartzel l 2 > blade blended airfoil: C2YR-1BFP/F8068D > > TO > the MT 3 blade: MTV12B/193-53 recommended for the RV10. > My Hartzell has 300 hours since new, has been maintained IAW the > Hartzell manual and has no damage. > In exchange for a new unused MT I would have Hartzell blades factory > re-painted. > This propeller has provided great performance and is well balanced on > my aircraft. Exchange would include the entire spinner assembly, > preferable with both propellers. > Any one interested? What cash differential? > Dick Sipp > RV10-N110DV 40065 300 hours > * > =========== com> uildersbooks.com> lp.com> =========== =========== =========== > *


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    Time: 06:37:40 AM PST US
    Subject: infinity grips
    From: "Strasnuts" <sean@braunandco.com>
    I would like to see what people are using for all the buttons on the infinity grips. I'm trying to figure out what I want on these grips: My list is: Trigger - PTT Hat - aileron/elevator trim Thumb - Autopilot Thumb - comm flip/flop? Thumb halfway down the stick - Ident? Pinky - screen change? Do these make sense? -------- Cust. #40936 RV-10 SB Fuselage N801VR reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322051#322051


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    Time: 07:00:55 AM PST US
    From: Robin Marks <Robin@PaintTheWeb.com>
    Subject: infinity grips
    RV10-List: infinity grips On 3 of my planes I did: =B7 Trigger - PTT Hat - aileron/elevator trim Thumb - Autopilot Thumb - comm flip/flop? And didn=92t bother with the remaining two buttons. My first with infinity grips was a steam gauge aircraft (RV-6A) so fewer things to switch. The nex t two RV-10 & RV-8A had the above layout but no additional buttons either. I almost added the Comm Swap which is swapping between Comm 1 & Comm 2 (not Flip Flop) but decided against based on how I use the panel. I didn=92t wan t the ident feature b/c I seem to get ident requests less than once a flight and I didn=92t want to ident by accident. After years of flying the Infinit y stick I don=92t think I have ever hit a button by mistake. On the G900X PFD one can get back to the main screen by holding the Clear button for 2 seconds. I guess that would have been a nice function to have on a stick button. Not too dissimilar to your Screen Change. Good luck, Robin *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Strasnuts *Sent:* Thursday, December 02, 2010 6:35 AM *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com *Subject:* RV10-List: infinity grips I would like to see what people are using for all the buttons on the infinity grips. I'm trying to figure out what I want on these grips: My list is: Trigger - PTT Hat - aileron/elevator trim Thumb - Autopilot Thumb - comm flip/flop? Thumb halfway down the stick - Ident? Pinky - screen change? Do these make sense? -------- Cust. #40936 RV-10 SB Fuselage N801VR reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322051#322051 ------------------------------ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com


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    Time: 07:08:58 AM PST US
    From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: infinity grips
    It does depend on your hardware / avionics configuration - but yours is similar to mine. The PTT and Hat switches make sense to me and that's how I'm using them. The upper thumb (green and red straddling the hat) switches swap my audio between my two radios and cycle through my autopilot modes - just like you're thinking. The blue one (pinky) is for my altitude hold - engage / disengage. The lower thumb (black) engages my starter (after first enabling a guarded safety switch). The black one is set up that way because my key is located below the throttle quadrant for use by either front seat occupant - this allows one hand on the throttle and the other to continue flying the plane while attempting a restart (admittedly - I have not used this and would rather not need to). This setup has worked great for me for the last two years. Ralph Capen RV6A N822AR @ N06 - itchin' to build again...looking two-digit RV's -----Original Message----- >From: Strasnuts <sean@braunandco.com> >Sent: Dec 2, 2010 9:34 AM >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: RV10-List: infinity grips > > >I would like to see what people are using for all the buttons on the infinity grips. I'm trying to figure out what I want on these grips: > >My list is: > >Trigger - PTT >Hat - aileron/elevator trim >Thumb - Autopilot >Thumb - comm flip/flop? >Thumb halfway down the stick - Ident? >Pinky - screen change? > >Do these make sense? > >-------- >Cust. #40936 >RV-10 SB Fuselage >N801VR reserved > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322051#322051 > >


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    Time: 07:26:11 AM PST US
    From: Sean Stephens <sean@stephensville.com>
    Subject: Re: infinity grips
    Btn 1 (Hat) - Pitch/Roll Trim Btn 2 (Trigger) - PTT Btn 3 (Red Thumb) - AP CWS Btn 4 (Black Thumb) - VP-200 ACK Btn 5 (Blue Pinky) - <undecided> Btn 6 (Green Thumb) - Flaps * changing to toggle switch (ON)/OFF/(ON) -Sean #40303 On 12/2/10 8:56 AM, Robin Marks wrote: > > On 3 of my planes I did: > > Trigger - PTT > Hat - aileron/elevator trim > Thumb - Autopilot > Thumb - comm flip/flop? > > And didnt bother with the remaining two buttons. My first with > infinity grips was a steam gauge aircraft (RV-6A) so fewer things to > switch. The next two RV-10 & RV-8A had the above layout but no > additional buttons either. I almost added the Comm Swap which is > swapping between Comm 1 & Comm 2 (not Flip Flop) but decided against > based on how I use the panel. I didnt want the ident feature b/c I > seem to get ident requests less than once a flight and I didnt want > to ident by accident. After years of flying the Infinity stick I dont > think I have ever hit a button by mistake. On the G900X PFD one can > get back to the main screen by holding the Clear button for 2 seconds. > I guess that would have been a nice function to have on a stick > button. Not too dissimilar to your Screen Change. > > Good luck, > > Robin > > *From:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > <mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > <mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>] *On Behalf Of *Strasnuts > *Sent:* Thursday, December 02, 2010 6:35 AM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com> > *Subject:* RV10-List: infinity grips > > <mailto:sean@braunandco.com>> > > I would like to see what people are using for all the buttons on the > infinity grips. I'm trying to figure out what I want on these grips: > > My list is: > > Trigger - PTT > Hat - aileron/elevator trim > Thumb - Autopilot > Thumb - comm flip/flop? > Thumb halfway down the stick - Ident? > Pinky - screen change? > > Do these make sense? > > -------- > Cust. #40936 > RV-10 SB Fuselage > N801VR reserved > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322051#322051 > .aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > iption, > //www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > ttp://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > ============= > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> > Version: 10.0.1170 / > > * > > *


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    Time: 07:36:30 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: infinity grips
    From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    I've always done it this way. If you don't have yaw trim, then that frees up a button from this list for flip/flop. You could put in a momentary toggle to give you two buttons in one, so left on what I use as a yaw trim button could be flip/flop and right could be screen change. I really like having flaps on the stick. I wouldn't do it any other way personally. Trigger - PTT Hat - Pitch/Roll Trim Top Inboard Thumb - Flaps Top Outboard Thumb - Yaw Trim Side Thumb - Auto Pilot Pinky - Acknowledge, flip flop, screen change, etc. (momentary button better than push-on/push-off) Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com C: 352-427-0285 F: 815-377-3694 On Dec 2, 2010, at 9:34 AM, Strasnuts wrote: > > I would like to see what people are using for all the buttons on the infinity grips. I'm trying to figure out what I want on these grips: > > My list is: > > Trigger - PTT > Hat - aileron/elevator trim > Thumb - Autopilot > Thumb - comm flip/flop? > Thumb halfway down the stick - Ident? > Pinky - screen change? > > Do these make sense? > > -------- > Cust. #40936 > RV-10 SB Fuselage > N801VR reserved > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322051#322051 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:45:22 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: infinity grips
    From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    Sean, May I recommend a toggle ON/OFF/(ON) for the flaps? It's nice to be able to feel that button up and know that the flaps are retracted. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com C: 352-427-0285 F: 815-377-3694 On Dec 2, 2010, at 10:20 AM, Sean Stephens wrote: > > Btn 1 (Hat) - Pitch/Roll Trim > Btn 2 (Trigger) - PTT > Btn 3 (Red Thumb) - AP CWS > Btn 4 (Black Thumb) - VP-200 ACK > Btn 5 (Blue Pinky) - <undecided> > Btn 6 (Green Thumb) - Flaps * changing to toggle switch (ON)/OFF/(ON) > > -Sean #40303 > > > On 12/2/10 8:56 AM, Robin Marks wrote: >> >> On 3 of my planes I did: >> >> Trigger - PTT >> Hat - aileron/elevator trim >> Thumb - Autopilot >> Thumb - comm flip/flop? >> >> And didnt bother with the remaining two buttons. My first with infinity grips was a steam gauge aircraft (RV-6A) so fewer things to switch. The next two RV-10 & RV-8A had the above layout but no additional buttons either. I almost added the Comm Swap which is swapping between Comm 1 & Comm 2 (not Flip Flop) but decided against based on how I use the panel. I didnt want the ident feature b/c I seem to get ident requests less than once a flight and I didnt want to ident by accident. After years of flying the Infinity stick I dont think I have ever hit a button by mistake. On the G900X PFD one can get back to the main screen by holding the Clear button for 2 seconds. I guess that would have been a nice function to have on a stick button. Not too dissimilar to your Screen Change. >> >> Good luck, >> >> Robin >> >> *From:*owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>] *On Behalf Of *Strasnuts >> *Sent:* Thursday, December 02, 2010 6:35 AM >> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com> >> *Subject:* RV10-List: infinity grips >> >> >> I would like to see what people are using for all the buttons on the infinity grips. I'm trying to figure out what I want on these grips: >> >> My list is: >> >> Trigger - PTT >> Hat - aileron/elevator trim >> Thumb - Autopilot >> Thumb - comm flip/flop? >> Thumb halfway down the stick - Ident? >> Pinky - screen change? >> >> Do these make sense? >> >> -------- >> Cust. #40936 >> RV-10 SB Fuselage >> N801VR reserved >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322051#322051 >> .aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> iption, >> //www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >> ttp://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >> ============= >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> >> Version: 10.0.1170 / >> >> * >> >> * > > > >


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    Time: 07:45:39 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: infinity grips
    From: "johngoodman" <johngoodman@earthlink.net>
    I used the blue pinky button for Ident. Green thumb for A/P disc. Black thumb for Comm swap Red is empty for now. John -------- #40572 Painted and the wings are on. N711JG reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322059#322059


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    Time: 07:53:55 AM PST US
    From: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com>
    Subject: infinity grips
    Trigger - PTT Hat - Pitch/Roll Trim Top Inboard Thumb - Flaps Top Outboard Thumb - Autopilot Side Thumb - Frequency Flip Flop, Comm 1 (Love this one) Pinky - Ident (Not used very often.....thinking of chancing to COMM1/COMM2 flip flop.) Rene' Felker N423CF 801-721-6080 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 8:28 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: infinity grips I've always done it this way. If you don't have yaw trim, then that frees up a button from this list for flip/flop. You could put in a momentary toggle to give you two buttons in one, so left on what I use as a yaw trim button could be flip/flop and right could be screen change. I really like having flaps on the stick. I wouldn't do it any other way personally. Trigger - PTT Hat - Pitch/Roll Trim Top Inboard Thumb - Flaps Top Outboard Thumb - Yaw Trim Side Thumb - Auto Pilot Pinky - Acknowledge, flip flop, screen change, etc. (momentary button better than push-on/push-off) Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com C: 352-427-0285 F: 815-377-3694 On Dec 2, 2010, at 9:34 AM, Strasnuts wrote: > > I would like to see what people are using for all the buttons on the infinity grips. I'm trying to figure out what I want on these grips: > > My list is: > > Trigger - PTT > Hat - aileron/elevator trim > Thumb - Autopilot > Thumb - comm flip/flop? > Thumb halfway down the stick - Ident? > Pinky - screen change? > > Do these make sense? > > -------- > Cust. #40936 > RV-10 SB Fuselage > N801VR reserved > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322051#322051 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:09:33 AM PST US
    From: Sean Stephens <sean@stephensville.com>
    Subject: Re: infinity grips
    Good point. Looks like the VP-200 can be configured that way also. Also noticed you put flaps on the inboard side of the stick as opposed to how I have the AP CWS there. I think that makes better sense as to further avoid possible unintended use of the CWS btn. And it is easier to get at there. Config changes to the following: Btn 1 (Hat) - Pitch/Roll Trim Btn 2 (Trigger) - PTT Btn 3 (Red Thumb) - Flaps * changing to toggle switch ON/OFF/(ON) Btn 4 (Black Thumb) - VP-200 ACK Btn 5 (Blue Pinky) -<undecided> Ident or COM1 freq flip flop Btn 6 (Green Thumb) - AP CWS * would probably switch btn color to Red Thanks, -Sean #40303 On 12/2/10 9:42 AM, Jesse Saint wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: Jesse Saint<jesse@saintaviation.com> > > Sean, > > May I recommend a toggle ON/OFF/(ON) for the flaps? It's nice to be able to feel that button up and know that the flaps are retracted. > > Jesse Saint > Saint Aviation, Inc. > jesse@saintaviation.com > C: 352-427-0285 > F: 815-377-3694 > > On Dec 2, 2010, at 10:20 AM, Sean Stephens wrote: > >> --> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens<sean@stephensville.com> >> >> Btn 1 (Hat) - Pitch/Roll Trim >> Btn 2 (Trigger) - PTT >> Btn 3 (Red Thumb) - AP CWS >> Btn 4 (Black Thumb) - VP-200 ACK >> Btn 5 (Blue Pinky) -<undecided> >> Btn 6 (Green Thumb) - Flaps * changing to toggle switch (ON)/OFF/(ON) >> >> -Sean #40303 >> >>


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    Time: 08:25:34 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: infinity grips
    From: Jim Ayers <lessdragprod@aol.com>
    Hi All, It looks like there is a combination of similarities and differences in swi tch functions. My list is: Trigger - PTT Hat - aileron/elevator trim Thumb (right of hat) - Starter (with panel switch in series) Thumb (left of hat) - Flap (toggle switch on/off/momentary on) Thumb (halfway down the stick) - #1 radio flip/flop Pinky - Autopilot engage/disengage The front stick on my Less Drag Special (modified HR2) is hard wired with t he 17(?) wires. The rear stick only has the 4 wires required for the Cann Aerospace Buss ca rd. The rear stick will not be wired into the system until I install the C ann Buss modules. The rear stick will have a enable/disable switch on the instrument panel. (future development) The left stick on my RV-6A has a Ray Allen stick grip using the Trigger swi tch for PTT and the hat for elevator and aileron trim. The right stick has the four wires connecting all of the Infinity stick gri p switches to a Cann Aerospace Buss module. As we complete adding in the C ann Aerospace Buss modules, I will finish designating the switch functions. (For flight safety, there will be an enable/disable switch on the pilot s ide of the instrument panel for the passenger stick grip switches.) With the Cann Aerospace Buss modules and the Infinity stick grip modificati on, the function of each stick grip switch can be designated and/or changed without rewiring the stick grip. Jim Ayers -----Original Message----- From: Strasnuts <sean@braunandco.com> Sent: Thu, Dec 2, 2010 6:38 am Subject: RV10-List: infinity grips I would like to see what people are using for all the buttons on the infini ty rips. I'm trying to figure out what I want on these grips: My list is: Trigger - PTT at - aileron/elevator trim humb - Autopilot humb - comm flip/flop? humb halfway down the stick - Ident? inky - screen change? Do these make sense? -------- ust. #40936 V-10 SB Fuselage 801VR reserved ead this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322051#322051 - -= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- -= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) - -= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click on -= the Contribution link below to find out more about -= this year's Terrific Free Incentive Gifts provided -= by: -= -= * AeroElectric www.aeroelectric.com -= * The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com -= * HomebuiltHELP www.homebuilthelp.com - -= List Contribution Web Site: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution - -= Thank you for your generous support! - -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. - -======================== -= - The RV10-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List - -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -========================


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    Time: 08:26:33 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: infinity grips
    Trigger - PTT Hat - aileron/elevator trim Thumb (DPST Momentary) - COM1 / COM2 flip-flop (works good to flip active to standby on either COM) Thumb - EFIS Screen mode (cycles PFD/MFD/Engine page) Thumb halfway down the stick - AP Disconnect Pinky - EFIS Mute If your system supports it, I'd definitely do an audio mute for terrain/traffic/engine warnings on your stick. Also, of course 100% should have AP disconnect. I use the com flip flop a lot. Basically I love my stick button layout, but if you don't have an EFIS mode change button, you'll have one button to assign to something else. Some people put flaps, starter, ident, and other things on the switch...personally I find no use for those to be that handy or used that often...and some things done wrong could be downright dangerous. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD On 12/2/2010 8:34 AM, Strasnuts wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Strasnuts"<sean@braunandco.com> > > I would like to see what people are using for all the buttons on the infinity grips. I'm trying to figure out what I want on these grips: > > My list is: > > Trigger - PTT > Hat - aileron/elevator trim > Thumb - Autopilot > Thumb - comm flip/flop? > Thumb halfway down the stick - Ident? > Pinky - screen change? > > Do these make sense? > > -------- > Cust. #40936 > RV-10 SB Fuselage > N801VR reserved >


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    Time: 09:01:51 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: infinity grips
    From: "Strasnuts" <sean@braunandco.com>
    These are great ideas. I would like to mute terrain on VFR flights and maybe have a TCAS inhibit on the stick. I could run my terrain audio to the AUX in on the audio panel and turn it on before IFR flights. -------- Cust. #40936 RV-10 SB Fuselage N801VR reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322069#322069


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    Time: 10:27:30 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Flightline interior w/ alternative door seals
    From: Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com>
    I've thought about it, and it looks nice, but it's too late for me without significantly reworking the door edge. I'm hoping to fly this thing sometime this century :) -Rob On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Ron B. <cfxoa@klis.com> wrote: > > Have you thought of using the McMaster-Carr seal? That is what we used > thanks to others before us and are very pleased with it. > Ron > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322013#322013 > > -- Rob Kochman RV-10 "Finishing" Kit Woodinville, WA (near Seattle) http://kochman.net/N819K


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    Time: 10:55:46 AM PST US
    Subject: control cable extensions
    From: pilotdds <pilotdds@aol.com>
    I noticed that aircraft spruce sells fairly robust control cable extensions .Has anybody tried these as a method of resolving the short control cable i ssues?I am curious if there are any unintended complications.It seems,at le ast on the surface to be an easy fix without having to order compete new cu stom cables.


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    Time: 11:38:33 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Flightline interior w/ alternative door seals
    From: Robin Marks <robin@PaintTheWeb.com>
    Rob there are 90 years left in this century. That's just about the right amount of time to rework the doors. On a serious note the MC door seals are just about the best choice available. Better now than later. Robin Sent from Android phone Probably while driving On Dec 2, 2010 10:35 AM, "Rob Kochman" <rv10rob@gmail.com> wrote: I've thought about it, and it looks nice, but it's too late for me without significantly reworking the door edge. I'm hoping to fly this thing sometime this century :) -Rob On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Ron B. <cfxoa@klis.com> wrote: > > Have you thought of using the McMaster-Carr seal? That is what we used > thanks to others before us and are very pleased with it. > Ron > > > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322013#322013 > > > > ber is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click on > /" target="_blank">www.aeroelectric.com > omebuiltHELP www.homebuilthelp.com > http:/r generous support! > > > > nics List Features Navigator to browse > s.com/Navigator?RV10-List" > target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List<http://www.matronics.com/contribution> > ronics.com/" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com > ============= > > -- Rob Kochman RV-10 "Finishing" Kit Woodinville, WA (near Seattle) http://kochman.net/N819K


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    Time: 01:05:30 PM PST US
    From: John Gonzalez <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
    Subject: control cable extensions
    These extension will only work in relation to a length issue between the br acket and the servo arm. They will not solve the problem of an overall leng th issue of the cable jacket. It seems that the standard cables for the standard set up would have been b est fabricated 1-2 inches longer. Subject: RV10-List: control cable extensions From: pilotdds@aol.com I noticed that aircraft spruce sells fairly robust control cable extensions .Has anybody tried these as a method of resolving the short control cable i ssues?I am curious if there are any unintended complications.It seems=2Cat least on the surface to be an easy fix without having to order compete new custom cables.


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    Time: 01:27:06 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: control cable extensions
    From: pilotdds <pilotdds@aol.com>
    thanks john-I guess I will be reordering cables,Isorta wanted a veneir thro ttle anyway -----Original Message----- From: John Gonzalez <indigoonlatigo@msn.com> Sent: Thu, Dec 2, 2010 1:06 pm Subject: RE: RV10-List: control cable extensions These extension will only work in relation to a length issue between the br acket and the servo arm. They will not solve the problem of an overall leng th issue of the cable jacket. It seems that the standard cables for the standard set up would have been b est fabricated 1-2 inches longer. Subject: RV10-List: control cable extensions From: pilotdds@aol.com I noticed that aircraft spruce sells fairly robust control cable extensions .Has anybody tried these as a method of resolving the short control cable i ssues?I am curious if there are any unintended complications.It seems,at le ast on the surface to be an easy fix without having to order compete new cu stom cables. _blank>www.aeroelectric.com " target=_blank>www.buildersbooks.com _blank>www.homebuilthelp.com _blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution rget=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List tp://forums.matronics.com - -= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- -= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) - -= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click on -= the Contribution link below to find out more about -= this year's Terrific Free Incentive Gifts provided -= by: - -= * AeroElectric www.aeroelectric.com -= * The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com -= * HomebuiltHELP www.homebuilthelp.com - -= List Contribution Web Site: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution - -= Thank you for your generous support! - -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. - -======================== -= - The RV10-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List - -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -========================


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    Time: 03:38:40 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: infinity grips
    From: David Maib <dmaib@me.com>
    Trigger-PTT Hat_ elevator/aileron trim Thumb-comm flip flop Thumb-VP200 acknowledge/checklist advance. (in my opinion this is a must have if you have VP) Halfway down stick_ Autopilot disconnect/CWS Pinky-rudder trim If I had it to do over, I would consider putting a start button on the pinky instead of rudder trim. It would be nice to be able to hold the stick while activating the starter and manipulating the throttle with the right hand. VP will keep you from engaging the starter at a time when you don't want to. $.02 worth David Maib 40559 Flying. On Dec 2, 2010, at 9:34 AM, Strasnuts wrote: > > I would like to see what people are using for all the buttons on the infinity grips. I'm trying to figure out what I want on these grips: > > My list is: > > Trigger - PTT > Hat - aileron/elevator trim > Thumb - Autopilot > Thumb - comm flip/flop? > Thumb halfway down the stick - Ident? > Pinky - screen change? > > Do these make sense? > > -------- > Cust. #40936 > RV-10 SB Fuselage > N801VR reserved > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322051#322051 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 04:09:17 PM PST US
    Subject: Fwd: Rv10 quick build kit for sale
    From: Russell Shavitz <russ.shavitz@gmail.com>
    ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Russell Shavitz <russ.shavitz@gmail.com> Subject: Rv10 quick build kit for sale For Sale Rv10 quick build wing and fuse finish kit empanage is finished tail cone is installed rudder pedals installed fuel system installed flap system installed. I have 70,000 invested will sell for $ 55,000 Russell Shavitz 847-417-6622


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    Time: 06:10:34 PM PST US
    Subject: fwf/engine hanging procedures
    From: "rvdave" <davidbf@centurytel.net>
    Am getting close to hanging engine to start trimming cowling, I don't yet have the fwf kit or anything yet. Should I be planning to be removing engine again and again while working on things between engine mount and firewall or can I plan on one time permanent mount? -------- Dave Ford RV6 flying RV10 building Cadillac, MI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322125#322125


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    Time: 06:47:51 PM PST US
    From: David Maib <dmaib@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: fwf/engine hanging procedures
    Dave, I imagine you will have it back off at least once and maybe more. David Maib 40559 Flying On Dec 2, 2010, at 9:04 PM, rvdave wrote: Am getting close to hanging engine to start trimming cowling, I don't yet have the fwf kit or anything yet. Should I be planning to be removing engine again and again while working on things between engine mount and firewall or can I plan on one time permanent mount? -------- Dave Ford RV6 flying RV10 building Cadillac, MI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322125#322125


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    Time: 08:15:51 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: fwf/engine hanging procedures
    From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    If you don't have the fwf kit yet you'll want to pull it off again. Lots of stuff gets mounted on the fw that is easier w/o the engine on. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org www.mavericklsa.com C: 352-427-0285 O: 352-465-4545 F: 815-377-3694 Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2010, at 9:04 PM, "rvdave" <davidbf@centurytel.net> wrote: > > Am getting close to hanging engine to start trimming cowling, I don't yet have the fwf kit or anything yet. Should I be planning to be removing engine again and again while working on things between engine mount and firewall or can I plan on one time permanent mount? > > -------- > Dave Ford > RV6 flying > RV10 building > Cadillac, MI > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322125#322125 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:42:02 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: fwf/engine hanging procedures
    From: "rvdave" <davidbf@centurytel.net>
    My thoughts are to first get isolators and bolts/nuts, hang engine to line up & mark where penetrations must be made through firewall, complete baffling & cowl fitting, take it off once for room to work, then if I haven't forgotten anything, one last mounting. Can it be that simple? [Laughing] -------- Dave Ford RV6 flying RV10 building Cadillac, MI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322134#322134


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    Time: 10:19:21 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: fwf/engine hanging procedures
    From: "Strasnuts" <sean@braunandco.com>
    I hung my engine right away. I believe some items might be easier done without the engine but I had no problems doing everything later. Sometimes it's just easier to get some items done and go on. Maybe it is mental but mounting the engine was a motivator for me. That goes for the subpanel too. There comes a time when you just have to do it and move on and you get things done. -------- Cust. #40936 RV-10 SB Fuselage N801VR reserved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322135#322135


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    Time: 11:49:43 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: fwf/engine hanging procedures
    From: Rob Kochman <rv10rob@gmail.com>
    I mounted mine only once. If you have a pretty standard setup, mount stuff and put the firewall penetrations where Van's tells you to, and do the things Van's tells you to do before mounting the engine, it works out fine. I did add a couple extra holes later on the upper part of the firewall, but there's plenty of room to work up there, even with the engine on. I'd recommend getting the FWF kit now, or at least the few items you need to install before mounting the engine. -Rob On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com> wrote: > > If you don't have the fwf kit yet you'll want to pull it off again. Lots > of stuff gets mounted on the fw that is easier w/o the engine on. > > Jesse Saint > I-TEC, Inc. > jesse@itecusa.org > www.itecusa.org > www.mavericklsa.com > C: 352-427-0285 > O: 352-465-4545 > F: 815-377-3694 > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 2, 2010, at 9:04 PM, "rvdave" <davidbf@centurytel.net> wrote: > > > > > Am getting close to hanging engine to start trimming cowling, I don't yet > have the fwf kit or anything yet. Should I be planning to be removing > engine again and again while working on things between engine mount and > firewall or can I plan on one time permanent mount? > > > > -------- > > Dave Ford > > RV6 flying > > RV10 building > > Cadillac, MI > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322125#322125 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Rob Kochman RV-10 "Finishing" Kit Woodinville, WA (near Seattle) http://kochman.net/N819K




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